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6 hours ago, ClubWhatever said:

we did not have championship talent on the lines of scrimmage.  Our center, guards, and DEs were and are jags.  

And our QB was a freshman. Herman's lack of recruiting in certain areas came home to roost this year. I knew that this was not a one or two year turnaround when Sark was hired. I knew that we would be 8-5  or 9-4 this year. We will be improved next year.

 

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6 minutes ago, Rimbo said:

I think it's more accurate to say it depends on whether or not you're in touch with reality.

I said, at the beginning of the season, that I saw a team with a ceiling of 7 wins, based on the talent (or more accurately, the lack thereof) alone. Two things happened that led to us exceeding that: Hudson Card playing above any reasonable expectation after Ewers' injury, and the unexpected development of our LB corps -- Jaylan Ford in particular.

We've only had two really good recruiting years in the past dozen; one of those classes is on campus today as freshmen, the other hasn't even arrived on campus yet. There's always room for criticism of the staff, but football games are won and lost by players making plays. If you don't have the players, if you don't have the playmakers, you're not going to win many games. We lost that game yesterday because Washington has more better players than we do. It's that simple. Would Overshown, Roschon and Bijan being on the field have changed the outcome? Absofuckinglutely and you're in denial if you don't recognize that.

Greg fucking Davis won a Broyles Award, for chrissakes; do you think that massive, 5th-year-laden OL, a kid named Jamall Charles, and Vince motherfucking Young might've had something to do with that?

My point is, after we've loaded up on a few good classes and they've been in the same system for more than two years straight, we'll know what Sark's actual ceiling is. And not before that. I'm not saying it won't be 8 wins... but if Mack Brown can beat his biggest divisional rival, if Greg Davis can win a Broyles award, anything is possible.

I was told Texas was STACKED, despite freshmen OL, freshman QB, no pressure from the edge, etc. Texas has a lot of talent scattered on the roster, but Texas is not STACKED because neither the distribution nor the depth are there, yet. On the lines, especially, a fourth or fifth year 3-star is typically going to handle a young 4- or 5-star. That’s not because the 5-star’s coach sucks. Maybe we can think back to Cory Redding get his ass beat against NC State to remember that it happens but that people get bigger and stronger and bring that back around in spades.

IMO, Sarkisian and Flood are building an OL to beat people down. Getting playmakers on defense. Stocking skill on offense. Sarkisian isn’t blameless for some of the failings and he needs to address those. I think he’s building a system that reloads and patches holes with the portal, rather than churning portal all the time. When he has his experienced elite QB and RB behind his version of Studdard, Seindlein, etc. we’ll see. This has been a shitshow since McCoy got hurt against Alabama and Brown started coasting. 

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Posted
21 minutes ago, Doc Daneeka said:

I was told Texas was STACKED

lol... by whom? Certainly not anyone who was paying attention; have you SEEN our last few draft classes? We've been celebrating kickers and punters getting NFL jobs. You don't get those guys drafted if your team is worth a damn; they don't get enough playing time.

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3 minutes ago, Rimbo said:

lol... by whom? Certainly not anyone who was paying attention; have you SEEN our last few draft classes? We've been celebrating kickers and punters getting NFL jobs. You don't get those guys drafted if your team is worth a damn; they don't get enough playing time.

 

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16 years to 6, that was the difference between the Washington IOL and the Texas one. Outside of the WRs dropping every other catchable ball thrown their way, that is reason Washington controlled the LOS of both sides of the ball and won the game. Washington's long drives were achieved through explosive runs on 2nd and long, setting up 3rd and shorts.

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Posted
5 minutes ago, HtownHorn said:

16 years to 6, that was the difference between the Washington IOL and the Texas one. Outside of the WRs dropping every other catchable ball thrown their way, that is reason Washington controlled the LOS of both sides of the ball and won the game. Washington's long drives were achieved through explosive runs on 2nd and long, setting up 3rd and shorts.

Sold.  Time to give sark a raise

Posted
6 minutes ago, Rimbo said:

lol... by whom? Certainly not anyone who was paying attention; have you SEEN our last few draft classes? We've been celebrating kickers and punters getting NFL jobs. You don't get those guys drafted if your team is worth a damn; they don't get enough playing time.

They will never understand. I mean one of the top players we signed during the Herman era, had to portal to the FCS because he was a bad football player. Texas will be really good, when the 2022 OL class are upperclassmen. Next year depends on how Ewers and the skill talent improve after losing Robinson and Johnson. The OL will likely be breaking in 2 new starters that will be 1st time starters. The defense will likely take a step back unless Hill becomes a freshmen AA type. The talent is finally coming and the coaching staff is showing signs of development. Next season is going to be a big year for Marrion. His room is likely the biggest key to the offense becoming more consistent. He needs to show he can develop these guys.

1 minute ago, closetohumping said:

Sold.  Time to give sark a raise

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Posted (edited)
5 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

Sold.  Time to give sark a raise

How do you evaluate the interplay of raw talent versus years in a college football nutrition, weight lifting, and time in system at a P5 program level?

I mean, other than contentless, throwaway one-liners.

What are your expectations for freshmen and sophomores playing against juniors and seniors on the lines? Is that a relevant factor to you?

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On 11/23/2022 at 11:47 AM, closetojumping said:

 

...when it comes to slinging arrows at the doubters. It’s laughable. Hope in him may wind up paying off, and I hope he gets it done, but hope is all we have. 

 

 

I always (or at least almost always) enjoy your posts, so I'm just mentioning this because it  made me chuckle.

For some reason, I got a visual in my head of a guy actually trying to use a sling to launch an arrow.  Then I visualized another guy standing beside him, asking, "What in the fuck are you doing?"  

And that made me laugh.

Posted
52 minutes ago, Doc Daneeka said:

I was told Texas was STACKED, despite freshmen OL, freshman QB, no pressure from the edge, etc. Texas has a lot of talent scattered on the roster, but Texas is not STACKED because neither the distribution nor the depth are there, yet. On the lines, especially, a fourth or fifth year 3-star is typically going to handle a young 4- or 5-star. That’s not because the 5-star’s coach sucks. Maybe we can think back to Cory Redding get his ass beat against NC State to remember that it happens but that people get bigger and stronger and bring that back around in spades.

IMO, Sarkisian and Flood are building an OL to beat people down. Getting playmakers on defense. Stocking skill on offense. Sarkisian isn’t blameless for some of the failings and he needs to address those. I think he’s building a system that reloads and patches holes with the portal, rather than churning portal all the time. When he has his experienced elite QB and RB behind his version of Studdard, Seindlein, etc. we’ll see. This has been a shitshow since McCoy got hurt against Alabama and Brown started coasting. 

The team is stacked. Just because you want to blame the players doesn't mean the coach is just a fucking baffoon. 

Every single starter at Texas starts almost everywhere in P5 save for playoff teams. Save me the bullshit about the talent not being on the roster and having a bunch of shit head nobodies playing for Texas. 

The most explosive player and player responsible for all the touchdowns had 6 fucking touches. Sark is a loser. 

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33 minutes ago, HtownHorn said:

the coaching staff is showing signs of development.

Care to point out these "signs of development"?  Was it continually playing an inferior rb while the most explosive back only get 6 touches (and scores 2 tds).... Or maybe it was continuing to play and force the ball to a wr with little to no interest in playing in this game.

 I'm genuinely curious what are the signs of development?

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Posted
38 minutes ago, Doc Daneeka said:

How do you evaluate the interplay of raw talent versus years in a college football nutrition, weight lifting, and time in system at a P5 program level?

I mean, other than contentless, throwaway one-liners.

What are your expectations for freshmen and sophomores playing against juniors and seniors on the lines? Is that a relevant factor to you?

I’ve flipped buddy.   Sark was given a shit hand and these are the best results we can expect.  Can’t judge him until ALL of Herms trash is gone and when we can finally get our NIL game going. 

Posted
2 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

I’ve flipped buddy.   Sark was given a shit hand and these are the best results we can expect.  Can’t judge him until ALL of Herms trash is gone and when we can finally get our NIL game going. 

That’s about the answer I was expecting. Need to find this fabled “ignore” option. 

Posted
30 minutes ago, immamac said:

The team is stacked. Just because you want to blame the players doesn't mean the coach is just a fucking baffoon. 

Every single starter at Texas starts almost everywhere in P5 save for playoff teams. Save me the bullshit about the talent not being on the roster and having a bunch of shit head nobodies playing for Texas. 

The most explosive player and player responsible for all the touchdowns had 6 fucking touches. Sark is a loser. 

Keep in mind Washington had bmds that helped with the portal.  We don’t have that yet

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Posted
56 minutes ago, immamac said:

Every single starter at Texas starts almost everywhere in P5 save for playoff teams. Save me the bullshit about the talent not being on the roster and having a bunch of shit head nobodies playing for Texas. 

 

This is complete and utter burnt-orange-sunglass-wearing delusion.

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Posted
3 hours ago, lilMAC25 said:

Sark winning 10 games would absolutely be a breakthrough in his coaching career because he’s only won 9 games 1x.

 

Counting on Sark to win 10 games a year is foolishness to the nth degree.

To be clear, I’m not “counting” on Sark regularly winning 10 games a year. As I said, that is my optimistic scenario for him if he accumulates enough talent, and that scenario is still on the table after this year. It’s not like I’ve bet the rent money on that happening, and I won’t be particularly surprised if it doesn’t. 
 

As I am not CDC, Jay Hartzell, Kevin Eltiffe, or a BMD, my opinion has exactly zero influence on how long Sark is the coach of Texas no matter how many scathing diatribes I post on a message board. Accordingly, I choose to take the optimistic view of his tenure for as long as possible. If you prefer to digitally rage at the heavens for the next 2+ years, that is certainly your right. You’ll have a lot of company on this thread. 

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Posted
1 minute ago, Duane Moore said:

To be clear, I’m not “counting” on Sark regularly winning 10 games a year. As I said, that is my optimistic scenario for him if he accumulates enough talent, and that scenario is still on the table after this year. It’s not like I’ve bet the rent money on that happening, and I won’t be particularly surprised if it doesn’t. 
 

As I am not CDC, Jay Hartzell, Kevin Eltiffe, or a BMD, my opinion has exactly zero influence on how long Sark is the coach of Texas no matter how many scathing diatribes I post on a message board. Accordingly, I choose to take the optimistic view of his tenure for as long as possible. If you prefer to digitally rage at the heavens for the next 2+ years, that is certainly your right. You’ll have a lot of company on this thread. 

The beauty part is, no matter what, short of an undefeated national championship, “Sarkisian should have done more” or “Sarkisian should have done that last year.”

Watch. If Texas plays in the conference championship game in 2023 there will be the “he should’ve done it last year” crowd. 

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Posted (edited)
10 minutes ago, Doc Daneeka said:

The beauty part is, no matter what, short of an undefeated national championship, “Sarkisian should have done more” or “Sarkisian should have done that last year.”

Watch. If Texas plays in the conference championship game in 2023 there will be the “he should’ve done it last year” crowd. 

And if he doesn’t, you and the other HOLD THE ROPE crew members will be here to present another round of excuses for him.

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Posted
Just now, lilMAC25 said:

And if he doesn’t, you and the other HOLD THE ROPE crew members will be here to present another round of excuses for him.

The only excuse I’d accept is rampant injuries. 

I get that you think playing freshmen on the OL and at QB is an “excuse” but a lot of people consider it a reason.

For the record, though, since apparently few here can grasp anything other than binaries, I’ve repeatedly mentioned the things I think he’s screwed up and needs to hold himself accountable for. 

Posted
4 hours ago, PostGameOrangeSlices said:

Yeah, you guys can hire anyone you want with your money bags.

Which is why your last 3 coaches are G5, G5, and Sark.

DeBoer is not going to Texas. Deal with it.

Haha.  I am in the Sark will work out camp but you should check with Aggie to see how their Texas will never join the SEC proclamation.  You may want to reevaluate your thoughts on things Texas will never do. 

Posted
4 minutes ago, LTtxfan said:

This is not accurate.  Texas currently has LBs that shouldn't start, our pass rushers are disappointing, WRs are not that great, some OL should be backups, and part of the 2023 DTs wouldn't start at several P5 schools.

We couldn't open any holes in the fuckin' running game last night and our pass protection at times was ass.  Not getting more hits on the Huskie QB was ridiculous, and missed tackles and the LB play last night were terrible.

The Texas roster is getting better, but still is void of great playmakers at several spots.  Yeah the coaches need to step up and do a better job, but some of the fuckin' players need to get their heads out of their asses this coming spring and summer and go to work on getting better.

Until Texas can better control the lines of scrimmage on offense and defense, we are gonna continue to see 3 or 4 close games against teams that Texas should beat in 2023.  Texas has to learn how to win more of those close games.  That's the responsibility of both the coaches and players.

Snark couldn’t careless about this LOS stuff, he wants qb stats and prove he is what he tells everyone he is ‘the qb whisperer’ or whatever BS, this fraud is in his ugly thick head. Fire this clown! 

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Posted (edited)
32 minutes ago, JohnnyLamJones said:

Snark couldn’t careless about this LOS stuff, he wants qb stats and prove he is what he tells everyone he is ‘the qb whisperer’ or whatever BS, this fraud is in his ugly thick head. Fire this clown! 

That’s why he has five more gigantic OL along with three edges and a DL that UGA really wanted coming in with this class. 

Then again, he understands that QB stats start with protection and you seem not to. 

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Posted
39 minutes ago, GreenspointTexas said:

Yikes. What a strange, over the top, delayed reaction

Pretty sure this is what Texas came up with to try and take the heat off Beard.  

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Posted
4 hours ago, DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt said:

whoever told you that was fucking with you and you should stop repeating it.

Bijan, anywhere. X at most anywhere until the inevitable happens. JT would make most any team’s two-deep, and start on most. At most good P5s, the majority of our OL is redshirted. Our roster is talented - it’s not that talented yet. I think imma reached here. 

Posted
7 minutes ago, chemHORN said:

Pretty sure this is what Texas came up with to try and take the heat off Beard.  

Anwar Richardson. We are the only school where the 9.95 er’s are actively trying to trash our program. 

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Posted
11 minutes ago, 1leggedduck said:

Things that I believed but were confirmed last night:

1. Bijan and Roschon were the best RB1 and RB2 combo in college football

2. The OL is work in progress. It should be elite in 2 years but is now average at best.

3. We have one competent LB.

4. Worthy is a catch and run receiver and should never be considered a deep threat. He got lucky on some endzone plays early in his time at UT but it is not his forte.

5. When healthy and focused, Ewers is a decent QB who will be a very good to great QB with some time.

6. The D can get a push but we have no competent edge rushers.

Surprises:

1. Our D backs can cover and I have no idea what changed. Scheme? Challenge to their pride? 

2. Our DL is good but not elite. They should not have given up that many first downs on short yardage situations.

3. Last night and the end of the season in general gave me hope that PK may a pretty good DC.

I conclude that I could bitch about Sark but it would be of no use as pointed out above, our $200 fan bitching will not make any difference, so I will be stoked about how our new class addresses so many of the problem areas, and choose to be optimistic despite the loss. I am not embarrased about the outcome. Washington is at, or near the apogee of this little uptick in their football existence. We are only a little way up the hill and climbing, yet we gave them a game. My glass is half full and I need an ice cube.

Happy Holidays. HookEm Horns!

Washington made a living last night running at whatever linebacker was opposite Ford. Tucker Dorsey/Gbenda/Blackwell were either in the wrong gaps or got blown into the safety's lap. There is only so much the DL can do by itself on running plays, and Washington did a good job of trying to get the Dline back on their heels with all kinds of shenanigans pre snap on those short yardage situations. 

Quinn had a very good night, and would have been a great night were it not for the drops. As it was, he threw for 362 yards and a touchdown, should have been over 400 with 2 or 3 TDs with competent receiver play. 

I think Worthy may have sealed his fate last night. But, if he does decide to suck it up and come back, Marion should take the kid gloves off and really challenge him to get better in the obvious areas. 

My hunch is that the OLine looks night and day different next season with regards to moving people in the run game. The first 6 or 7 guys should all be capable of playing good to great football next year.

There is no way Bijan and Roschon won't be missed, but tweaking the run game to better fit Brooks and/or Baxter will be key. 

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Posted
6 minutes ago, RollLeft said:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaafb/football-world-reacts-to-troubling-steve-sarkisian-video/ar-AA15PvD4?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=30f97d8e73ee428486c54f85721fb7ec

I'm not here to white knight this fuck but this article and the tweets from WestCoastF and Pat can get fucked.  Trash.

Troubling? Football world reacts?

Not going to grace it with a click, but keep your hands to yourself. But, man, yeah, a football coach yelled at someone. I’m about as troubled as I was when Bo Davis expressed that, perhaps, some players were insufficiently invested in how the season was going. 

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Sark’s flip off LHN camera moment.
That dude with the headset should understand that its 2022...you cant just go around groping ever set of C cups you see. 

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