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6 hours ago, Hank Chinaski said:

Eh…I think you could at least make a case for the Lofton trade being just about as bad. Consider: (a) we got absolutely no value out of Lofton and got back absolutely no value in return; (b) Lofton would go on to be worth over 5 WAR per season over the next 8 years, playing a position at which those teams were never particularly strong.

Then consider the teams Lofton would have played for. Prime Lofton, Biggio, Bagwell hitting 1-3 for the entire 90s…holy shit. Those were playoff teams and adding a guy like Lofton could have nudged them forward enough to get over the hump. He was the perfect complimentary player for those teams - elite defensive CF (in the Dome) who was on base 40% of the time and stealing bases better than anyone in the sport. 

Obviously Morgan was a better player than Lofton, but the circumstances make a difference, and at least the Astros did get some good years out of Morgan before they traded him.

The Morgan trade is the worst in terms of the caliber of the player they traded, just saying that the Lofton trade was absolutely awful and isn’t far behind, all things considered.

Oh yeah, that Lofton trade is close behind and easily the worst trade on my Astros fan timeline but Joe Morgan was an all-time great, a generational player whose brand name imo was unfairly tarnished by his broadcast career and the ballyhooed baseball blogspot that took its name from him. 

Trading Joe  Morgan was trading away a HOF giant along the lines of letting Nolan walk to the fucking Rangers. Both of them should've been been enshrined wearing the goddamn H. 

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