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53 minutes ago, markstanco said:

Low rent by OSU brass.  Should have let him come out and say "I am retiring after this year".  If they did offer that, and he said no, then this is justified. 

This is what must have happened. I'm amazed they didn't let him finish the season. He must have really pissed them off. Hard for him to push back after his two disastrous losses.  

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5 minutes ago, GJ Winne said:

He hasn't won 10 games and has zero connection to Weinberg. There is next to no chance he's getting poached.

He wasn't a better coach when they played last year.

Guys we found GJ Kinne's accounts 

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Posted
42 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

That's fine I'm just saying it wasn't just about the shirt. This shit was all over college sports news back in 2020, it wasn't exactly out there on the fringe. If you didn't see it you were averting your eyes.

Don't start your shit over on this board too.

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1 hour ago, 'stache said:

Don't want Meacham to serve as interim, find a way to win a few games, and get handed the job. We need a complete reset.

There is no way in hell we're winning ANY more games this year. We were going 1-11 regardless of who is coaching.

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2 hours ago, Skipper said:

Will be interested to hear details on this.  It's clear this was his last year regardless.  But I think he earned the right to coach the rest of the season and announce a mutual separation on his own terms (with understanding coaching search is underway).  I mean that's basically what happened with Patterson right?  Or maybe I'm misremembering.  In any event, I wondered if they offered that up and he told them to pound sand and fire him (and they obliged).  

He probably didn't want 9 more losses on his record and agreed to get out now.

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38 minutes ago, ztejas said:

Two P4 coaches fired by week 5 is pretty wild. Shows you just how awful UCLA and OSU are. 

yup. both teams are having horrible seasons.

33 minutes ago, Fondren & Main said:

Why?  He didn't do shit there.  Gundy nearly played for a national title during an era before the playoffs.

they should have played for the national title in 2011 instead of the Bama-LSU rematch. 

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5 minutes ago, Longboard Horn said:

Wonder who the interim will be. 
Top two obvious choices:

Craig T. Neslon

Kyle Chandler

 

He was great at Minnesota State but I don't trust him to hire a competent staff.

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Posted (edited)
19 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

No one said anything like this you fucking weird bitch. You're winding yourself up over nothing, again. It's fine to not pay attention, but it is a fact that it was in your face, front page college sports news at the time.

I even said that his response to the controversy was commendable. You're just acting like a god damn freak and trying to find something to be mad about, as usual. 

Its cute you think everyone had the same reaction to that shirt as you.  Most didn't give a shit.

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Just now, closetojumping said:

You and others bring up the "Gundy is a big conservative meanie!!! that t-shirt!! that fucking t-shirt!!!" stuff every time anyone says anything about the guy. I was mostly paying attention when the story happened and don't remember it being much of anything. It certainly wasn't some "in-your-face" national story for weeks or months. GTFOOH with those histrionics. If you made it a big story to follow in your own world, cool, that's on you.

You lazily and angrily resort to banal name-calling the minute you feel your worldview even getting a teeny bit challenged. You did the same shit with the Arkansas QB who wound up being falsely accused of rape when a few of us simply mentioned wanting to understand the story better.

Calling someone a "fucking weird bitch" and a "god damn freak" and then telling them they're mad is unintentionally ironic and funny, though, so you have that. There isn't a sane person reading this thread who could look at my prior post and then see yours and think "well, yes, that looks proportional". 

You're literally just putting words in my mouth. I don't have a problem with Gundy, all I did was offer a little additional context to another poster's comments. It was the offseason and a good football program had its best player, other current players, and former players publicly calling out their coach for behind the scenes shit that most people outside a football program never see or get wind of. It was a national story at the time, you can pretend it wasn't all you want, but it was. No one said it dragged on for months, but it was objectively a major offseason headline for a brief period, it just was. I deeply apologize if reality doesn't fit your head canon.

Also, again, I literally said that he deserved kudos for his response to the controversy. Stop acting like such a snowflake.

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10 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

You and others bring up the "Gundy is a big conservative meanie!!! that t-shirt!! that fucking t-shirt!!!" stuff every time anyone says anything about the guy. I was mostly paying attention when the story happened and don't remember it being much of anything. It certainly wasn't some "in-your-face" national story for weeks or months. GTFOOH with those histrionics. If you made it a big story to follow in your own world, cool, that's on you.

You lazily and angrily resort to banal name-calling the minute you feel your worldview even getting a teeny bit challenged. You did the same shit with the Arkansas QB who wound up being falsely accused of rape when a few of us simply mentioned wanting to understand the story better.

Calling someone a "fucking weird bitch" and a "god damn freak" and then telling them they're mad is unintentionally ironic and funny, though, so you have that. There isn't a sane person reading this thread who could look at my prior post and then see yours and think "well, yes, that looks proportional". 

I don’t think it was a small thing in recruiting circles, especially for those recruiting directly against OSU.

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32 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

Ahh, yes. The halcyon days of 2020, where everything made sense and for which everyone should be held accountable for the rest of their lives and should never live down anything that they got wrong during that period. Right. I don't really follow half the shit some of you guys get bent out of shape over, this Gundy stuff included, but seeing someone act incredulous over the notion that people checked out during that psychotic year of dystopian bullshit is fucking comical.

All of the political whining, fear-mongering and potshotting about Gundy's personal views is fucking boring, as usual. It comes up every.fucking.time.he's.mentioned. The guy is a character who will say both funny and idiotic shit about football and would be awesome if given a slot on one of the CFB platforms. While not true of the demographics of this site, for the most part, most viewers would find him entertaining and not give one shit about viewpoints he espoused 5+ years ago. It's a given that he's a clown. That has been known and mocked about him for 2 decades. He had a fucking mullet for years, for Christ's sake. 

 

I'm about 99% sure I have totally different politics than Gundy, and I would love to see him on a CFB show.

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Posted (edited)
11 minutes ago, Teamdirtyleg said:

Its cute you think everyone had the same reaction to that shirt as you.  Most didn't give a shit.

As I recall, they did use the shirt as a negotiating factor trick to get him to reduce his contract, which seems slightly bizarre to me. This happened after the star running back criticized him for wearing it.  

  • "In 2020, Gundy drew criticism after his star running back, Chuba Hubbard, called out Gundy for wearing a T-shirt from the One America News Network, a far-right news channel."
  • "After his Oklahoma State football team's poor 2024 season, Mike Gundy's contract was renegotiated in December 2024 to reduce his pay and buyout. This change followed a previous incident in 2020, in which Gundy took a pay cut after being criticized for wearing a controversial T-shirt. "
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2 minutes ago, TreatyOak said:

As I recall, they did use the shirt as a negotiating factor trick to get him to reduce his contract, which seems slightly bizarre to me. This happened after the star running back criticized him for wearing it.  

  • "In 2020, Gundy drew criticism after his star running back, Chuba Hubbard, called out Gundy for wearing a T-shirt from the One America News Network, a far-right news channel."
  • "After his Oklahoma State football team's poor 2024 season, Mike Gundy's contract was renegotiated in December 2024 to reduce his pay and buyout. This change followed a previous incident in 2020, in which Gundy took a pay cut after being criticized for wearing a controversial T-shirt. "

I have no doubt they did, regardless of their actual level of concern (its the state of Oklahoma for Christ sake), they had some leverage and damn sure used it. 

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Posted

Okie Lite is P4 in Name Only. Always going to have tablescraps even in its own state. No NIL opportunities. Not a desirable place to be a college aged person. Big XII maybe gives you a chance to make the playoffs but you'll really never be able to compete, not when there are huge party schools like Arizona State and UCF, or schools in major cities like TCU and U of H. Might as well get it overwith and move to MWC.

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6 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

You're literally just putting words in my mouth. I don't have a problem with Gundy, all I did was offer a little additional context to another poster's comments. It was the offseason and a good football program had its best player, other current players, and former players publicly calling out their coach for behind the scenes shit that most people outside a football program never see or get wind of. It was a national story at the time, you can pretend it wasn't all you want, but it was. No one said it dragged on for months, but it was objectively a major offseason headline for a brief period, it just was. I deeply apologize if reality doesn't fit your head canon.

Also, again, I literally said that he deserved kudos for his response to the controversy. Stop acting like such a snowflake.

I'm not "pretending" all I want. It just wasn't some major thing on my radar, and I follow CFB religiously. It damned sure wasn't important enough for me to bank it and recall it every time the guy's name gets mentioned, and even more absurdly to then sprint to the message boards or social media shrieking about it the way you and others appear to do.

No one is putting words in your mouth. You have a visible posting history. You bring up the controversy that you fixate on whenever someone deigns to mention Gundy in a positive light. 

You don't just get to wave that shit away when you're challenged on it because it makes you uncomfortable to the point of name-calling in an effort to make it go away. Also, same is true with "snowflake". That's a projection on your end. You're behaving like a "snowflake", and you're insecure about it, so you lob it out there like an incendiary device. It doesn't work. It a sign of your rhetorical weakness to name-call, not some sort of thing I'm going to take personally. 

5 minutes ago, Satchel said:

I don’t think it was a small thing in recruiting circles, especially for those recruiting directly against OSU.

There are a lot of things in "recruiting circles" that are a big deal that aren't to the rest of us. North Shore people are convinced right now that there's a good chance a NS player would be forced to  polish the governor's shoes on a daily basis if they signed with Texas. 

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3 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

I'm not "pretending" all I want. It just wasn't some major thing on my radar, and I follow CFB religiously. It damned sure wasn't important enough for me to bank it and recall it every time the guy's name gets mentioned, and even more absurdly to then sprint to the message boards or social media shrieking about it the way you and others appear to do.

No one is putting words in your mouth. You have a visible posting history. You bring up the controversy that you fixate on whenever someone deigns to mention Gundy in a positive light. 

You don't just get to wave that shit away when you're challenged on it because it makes you uncomfortable to the point of name-calling in an effort to make it go away. Also, same is true with "snowflake". That's a projection on your end. You're behaving like a "snowflake", and you're insecure about it, so you lob it out there like an incendiary device. It doesn't work. It a sign of your rhetorical weakness to name-call, not some sort of thing I'm going to take personally. 

Who is shrieking about what, dude? You're the one making a big deal about it. You.

4 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

There are a lot of things in "recruiting circles" that are a big deal that aren't to the rest of us. North Shore people are convinced right now that there's a good chance a NS player would be forced to  polish the governor's shoes on a daily basis if they signed with Texas. 

I'm sorry WHAT? I'm gonna need to hear some backstory on this one.

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28 minutes ago, Teamdirtyleg said:

Its cute you think everyone had the same reaction to that shirt as you.  Most didn't give a shit.

can you imagine the hue and cry had it been an MSNBC t shirt?

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I remember the shirt and it did cause a small shitstorm. But no one cared after a 12-2 season and beating Notre Dame in a bowl and no one cares now. They care about ridiculous beat downs to Oregon and losing to Tulsa at home. 

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So many Gundy memories. 
 
A good one is from the 2009 game, Saturday night in Stillwater. A lot of people thought the Cowboys would upset Texas the way Tech did the year before. Nope, the defense wasn’t having it. 
 
By the third quarter, Earl Thomas had Texas’ second pick six, giving Texas a 20 point lead. The camera showed Gundy on the sideline, calmly discussing it with QB Zack Robinson. I’m sure he asked what coaches always ask, “Tell me what you were seeing”. 
 
 
Whatever Robinson told him convinced Gundy to only call running plays and get the game over. 

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1 minute ago, statsman said:

So many Gundy memories. 
 
A good one is from the 2009 game, Saturday night in Stillwater. A lot of people thought the Cowboys would upset Texas the way Tech did the year before. Nope, the defense wasn’t having it. 
 
By the third quarter, Earl Thomas had Texas’ second pick six, giving Texas a 20 point lead. The camera showed Gundy on the sideline, calmly discussing it with QB Zack Robinson. I’m sure he asked what coaches always ask, “Tell me what you were seeing”. 
 
 
Whatever Robinson told him convinced Gundy to only call running plays and get the game over. 

Counterpoint:

 

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To me, the weird thing about the t-shirt was that he wore it fishing. Does anyone actually wear a shirt that they like to go fishing? I almost exclusively wear trash shirts that I am happy to throw away - it's going to get blood, sunscreen, beer and whatever else all over it anyway. Someone gives me a free shirt for their tv station or business, that's a prime candidate. 

I'm sure Gundy is a conservative guy and surrounds himself with OAN types, but I never saw him wearing that shirt as some kind of endorsement. 

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Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, dcar00 said:

can you imagine the hue and cry had it been an MSNBC t shirt?

I imagine it would have gone something like this;

"Weird! I didn't peg him for and MSNBC guy" or "Who wears cable channel news t-shirts? Weird." and then everyone moved on with their lives.

1 hour ago, 'stache said:

Y'all are weird. Him calling frustrated fans last year poor and stupid was far more relevant than the fucking t-shirt.

I did not hear about this... 

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43 minutes ago, Longboard Horn said:

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What's the biggest cause of this?

He suddenly forgot how to coach? Or they don't have their shit together and/or don't have the money to compete in the new NIL world?

 

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1 minute ago, crash_davis said:

What's the biggest cause of this?

He suddenly forgot how to coach? Or they don't have their shit together and/or don't have the money to compete in the new NIL world?

 

Has to be failure to adapt at an institutional level. I don't think Gundy suddenly forgot how to coach football.

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Lane Kiffin poached Spencer Sanders only for him to sit on the bench.

Gundy cannot keep a roster together because all his best players are getting poached.

Gundy lost Hauss Hejny in the first game of the year for the season.

OkSt better find some funds or the end of Gundy's tenure is gonna be their new reality.

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3 minutes ago, crash_davis said:

What's the biggest cause of this?

He suddenly forgot how to coach? Or they don't have their shit together and/or don't have the money to compete in the new NIL world?

 

Failure to adjust to the NIL era. To Saban's credit he at least recognized he didn't care for it and peaced out. 

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2 minutes ago, Fondren & Main said:

Lane Kiffin poached Spencer Sanders only for him to sit on the bench.

Gundy cannot keep a roster together because all his best players are getting poached.

Gundy lost Hauss Hejny in the first game of the year for the season.

OkSt better find some funds or the end of Gundy's tenure is gonna be their new reality.

As I said earlier, they got the funds for the buyout, I assume those same conversations included NIL budgeting. Word is that AD Weiberg is going to get his contract extension so he likely made this happen over the weekend. The hire will be telling. If it's some no name from DII, it means we don't have the NIL package to attract a good coach. If that were the case, I think they would have just let Gundy ruin his legacy for the next several years.

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One thing that has always struck me about the t-shirt thing is that, when that story passed by, I went to find the picture. I saw it and thought "I don't get it?" and then googled OAN. Had no idea it existed. I have DTV and YouTubeTV (I have wifi issues and I am not a poor, don't judge) and I feel pretty certain neither carries that channel. 

5 minutes ago, crash_davis said:

What's the biggest cause of this?

He suddenly forgot how to coach? Or they don't have their shit together and/or don't have the money to compete in the new NIL world?

 

He was hardline resistant to being involved with NIL and he handled the portal almost as poorly. One thing we, and I mean people on this site at the time, assessed correctly at the dawn of NIL was that it was going to be a really big fucking deal. By the time guys like Gundy figured it out, it was like the CFB version of having a dye pack explode in their face. They were fucked from their mismanagement of the bag game to the NIL game and it had become a runaway freight train. 

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On 9/8/2025 at 9:49 PM, statsman said:

I ran the Stassen database. 

No shit? I still reference that about once a week, or at least go from there to the James Howell site if I can't find what I'm looking for.

Yes, I'm an old.

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Kentucky has their eyes on the Tulane coach because he is an alum.

6 minutes ago, 'stache said:

As I said earlier, they got the funds for the buyout, I assume those same conversations included NIL budgeting. Word is that AD Weiberg is going to get his contract extension so he likely made this happen over the weekend. The hire will be telling. If it's some no name from DII, it means we don't have the NIL package to attract a good coach. If that were the case, I think they would have just let Gundy ruin his legacy for the next several years.

Fair enough.  I guess we will see.  I find it odd though that the starter is out for the season and people are surprised that Gundy's team went into the crapper.

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52 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

You're literally just putting words in my mouth. I don't have a problem with Gundy, all I did was offer a little additional context to another poster's comments. It was the offseason and a good football program had its best player, other current players, and former players publicly calling out their coach for behind the scenes shit that most people outside a football program never see or get wind of. It was a national story at the time, you can pretend it wasn't all you want, but it was. No one said it dragged on for months, but it was objectively a major offseason headline for a brief period, it just was. I deeply apologize if reality doesn't fit your head canon.

Also, again, I literally said that he deserved kudos for his response to the controversy. Stop acting like such a snowflake.

i think it's time for you to step away from the keyboard and touch grass

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1 minute ago, Fondren & Main said:

Kentucky has their eyes on the Tulane coach because he is an alum.

Fair enough.  I guess we will see.  I find it odd though that the starter is out for the season and people are surprised that Gundy's team went into the crapper.

The defense was worse than last year and the OL had some defenders pass untouched. Like literally, our guy is directly in front of theirs at the snap, and a half second later the defender is unabated to the RB/QB. It was hard to even tell on slow mo how it happned. It wasn't just losing those game, we didn't even look like a functioning football team. 

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