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if you don't have stafford to jones in Fayetteville and Gardere to cash and Gardere to Johnny Walker both versus OU on your list then your memory is suspect.   basically to have meaning it has to be a win or go home, championship or rivalry game.  these three all qualify for the latter.

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1 minute ago, JOSEYWALES66 said:

Not on the same level but Gardere to Johnny Walker in the Texas/OU game and Stafford to Jones at Arkansas are all time great plays. 

Peter mother fucking Gardere. A hero! OUSUX! Good memory on that one.

This is a fun discussion!!!! 

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2 minutes ago, JOSEYWALES66 said:

Not on the same level but Gardere to Johnny Walker in the Texas/OU game 

My second OU game.  I was down low in that end zone.  It happened right in front of my face.  Unbelievable play.

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6 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Idk, if someone hits a shot to send your basketball team to the final four, is it forgotten and not worth mentioning if you don’t win the title that year?  Those plays get remembered regardless 

Not saying it won't be remembered. 

See my posts after.. 

Let's talk all time Texas pass play comparisons to 4th and 13 cause THAT is a fun topic. 

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28 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

Fair point. Very fair point. And I'll accept that reality. However, while it wasn't for a National Championship it WAS for a Conference championship so.. 

Gotcha, and still agree with your original point.  If the standard is a quintessential moment and Texas goes on and wins it all, 4th and 13 will be lore.  

 

 

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4 minutes ago, troph said:

if you don't have stafford to jones in Fayetteville and Gardere to cash and Gardere to Johnny Walker both versus OU on your list then your memory is suspect.  all three of those qualify because of rivalry.  basically to have meaning it has to be a win or go home, championship or rivalry game.  these three all qualify for the latter.

Still can picture Tony Jones pumping his fist in the end zone and Ken Hatfield throwing his headset to the ground after the catch.  
 

Gardere still owns OU.

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31 minutes ago, Rickylovesweed said:

He dropped his nuts on the last 2 possessions of regular time too. It's not his fault our FG kicker sucks. 

That terrible interception that gave ASU even more life kind of clouded my memory of the final 2 drives, coupled with the missed FGs. But yes, he did make some good passes on those drives, especially the very last drive. Not sure why Sark committed to the FG so early after that very long pass with how inconsistent Auburn has been. Still not sure he fully trusts Quinn but I wasn't a fan of that run call right after the long gain. ASU's defense was reeling and I think we could have gotten another chunk play or maybe even score a TD to end it. Especially seeing we still had a timeout left and clock stops on 1st downs.

But we are done with the cupcakes of the playoffs in Clemson and Arizona State. Stuff Quinn has been getting away is going to much more difficult against Ohio State. It seems we start reeling once we get up early. Doubt we get a big early lead next week and that could be the best thing for us. Forces Sark and the offense to know they have to keep up with the great Ohio St offense. The 3rd qtr against ASU wore this defense down and they started getting bigger runs as the game went along. Same thing that happened in the SEC champ game. Defense just ran out of juice because the offense wasn't pulling their weight.

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Ohio St runs the Sark/Quinn nightmare fuel defense the cover 3 high....except they have Ohio St caliber athletes. We HAVE to run the ball against them, no matter what.

How can we if we haven’t with Georgia and ASU?
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In the last 40 years we've had 6 top 5 finishes.  Ewers is/will be the QB for 2 of them.  since Street it is VY, Colt, then Quinn.  

of course just for completeness, AppleSimms is in front of all 3 of them.

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4 hours ago, UTEE97 said:

Didn't Bond high point the catch in the end zone when Bama beat Auburn that made him famous? That was a beautiful throw by Milroe though.

 

 

That's great and all but he hasn't done that here. Even yesterday you are running step for step with the DB and you try to basket catch it while the DB goes up and gets it. That's all we've seen from him this year. It was a bad throw by Quinn but go up and knock it down or do something. Golden would fight for that ball.

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Quinn in last five minutes of game & overtime:

11-14 
161 yards 
2 TDs

Both TD's were perfect throws. Because the first OT TD throw saved the season, less has been said about the throw to Helm, but it was truly perfection. 

How do you like that, Sam Leavitt? 

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27 minutes ago, Vic Mackey said:

Not sure why Sark committed to the FG so early after that very long pass with how inconsistent Auburn has been

I love Sark, but the decision making in the last 35 seconds with one timeout in your pocket, a fresh set of downs, and on the fringe of your shaky kicker’s range was just baffling. 

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22 minutes ago, utexas8 said:


How can we if we haven’t with Georgia and ASU?

Hoping that ass whipping he took on the headset yesterday shock paddles his ass into realizing he needs to break some of his dumb fuck tendencies.

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4 hours ago, BurntOrange&White said:

I think Chris Jackson is recruiting that and pushing for those types of players. 

 

2024
Wingo 6'2 210
Livingstone 6'3 190(apparently he's really coming on in practice according to insiders and should push for PT next year)
Golden(Transfer) 6'1 190

Even though Silas is only 5'9 he plays larger than his size IMO and has a bigger catch radius than Bond.

2025
Michael Terry(Practicing receiver currently) 6'3 215
Lockett 6'2 175 - Nice jump ball high school receiver.
Ffrench 6'1 - People comp him to AD Mitchell
McCutcheon is our Moore type slot guy for the class at 5'11


 

Bolden is getting the DJ Monroe treatment on offense. I feel for the guy because I think there are uses for him. I don't think Golden is honestly over 6ft but he plays big. Big receivers make QBs look good. Look and Allar and his tight end he is simply lobbing balls up to and dude comes down with them. Look at Ohio State. Ridiculous catch radius across the board. They always have receivers like that. People forgot about this dude. We let him get out of the state. We wanna be on top for a long time we need A-list skill players.

 

 

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27 minutes ago, utexas8 said:

How can we if we haven’t with Georgia and ASU?

In theory ASU runs a similar defense to Clemson.  Run game results were night and day, though.

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5 minutes ago, Reynolds Woodcock said:

I love Sark, but the decision making in the last 35 seconds with one timeout in your pocket, a fresh set of downs, and on the fringe of your shaky kicker’s range was just baffling. 

Yep, that was maddening. 

 

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5 hours ago, Rickylovesweed said:

Yeah, this is why I definitely believe the rumors of us being involved with Noah Thomas. 

Man as long as we wash the aggy filth off him. I mean like stand him near the gutter and spray him down naked. Then we have to deprogram him because 8&4 isn't a thing here.

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1 hour ago, BurntOrange&White said:

I don't think it's that subjective between a college football playoff win and a BCS bowl. IMO the CFP win is clearly the bigger game and moment. 

I intended that 5 should be 2 not 4. 

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25 minutes ago, Vic Mackey said:

That terrible interception that gave ASU even more life kind of clouded my memory of the final 2 drives, coupled with the missed FGs. But yes, he did make some good passes on those drives, especially the very last drive. Not sure why Sark committed to the FG so early after that very long pass with how inconsistent Auburn has been. Still not sure he fully trusts Quinn but I wasn't a fan of that run call right after the long gain. ASU's defense was reeling and I think we could have gotten another chunk play or maybe even score a TD to end it. Especially seeing we still had a timeout left and clock stops on 1st downs.

But we are done with the cupcakes of the playoffs in Clemson and Arizona State. Stuff Quinn has been getting away is going to much more difficult against Ohio State. It seems we start reeling once we get up early. Doubt we get a big early lead next week and that could be the best thing for us. Forces Sark and the offense to know they have to keep up with the great Ohio St offense. The 3rd qtr against ASU wore this defense down and they started getting bigger runs as the game went along. Same thing that happened in the SEC champ game. Defense just ran out of juice because the offense wasn't pulling their weight.

Agree. To me, the goal for this season was not to beat an ASU, it's to beat the teams that are a notch above them. Quinn underthrew two or three long (what would have been) TD passes. Was that arm strength, or maybe a lingering ankle/leg strength problem? Add to that his reluctance to take the quick 5-10 yards on a scramble and we got a problem against OSU. Quinn can't outrace a linebacker to the sidelines.

OTOH, he made some terrific plays yesterday. Kuddos for those, but he needs to kick it up a notch to get past OSU. We need to be done with these Dead Zone Quarters when the offense falls apart. Part of it is on Sark. Maybe he needs to ask more of Quinn? He gave him several chances at the long ball. Quinn got one out of maybe 3 or 4. Maybe add 3-4 RPOs/quick runs. Might open up the field a little more.

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43 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

Don't go outside. Run middle screens and crossing routes. 

Largely agree, but one thing that has bothered me this year - we saw ASU throw at least one swing pass where the entire side of the field was open. Whenever we run a swing, it seems like it is to the side where we have two receivers and 2-3 defenders. I'd like to see a couple of those open field type swings reminiscent of Emmett Smith Cowboys.

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55 minutes ago, Skipper said:

I feel like yesterday's game was the complete 2024 Texas Longhorn Football experience in every way.  Big lead blown, shitty officiating, 3rd quarter meltdown, missed kicks, and obviously that applies to 3's game as well.  Watching the 2nd half (and particularly after yet another underthrown deep ball pick that should have never been thrown) I felt myself, like everyone I'm sure, feeling like I was so glad to be moving on to Arch and seeing what he could do next season.  Then QE comes up with the most clutch and elite QB play we've seen at QB in over a decade and follows that up with 2 absolute dimes for another TD and 2 PT conversion.  Just amazing.  And yes, obviously the story is still being written and I hope Quinn has even bigger moments the next 2 weeks, but glad he will always have that.  Just pure fucking nails when it mattered the most.

The read on the int wasn't bad. Bond was open. He puts some mustard on it and that is a TD. He threw slightly late and with not enough velocity. 

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51 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

Don't go outside. Run middle screens and crossing routes. 

outside zone is the staple of his offense and what everything is built off of.  if we can't run OZ it is usually going to be a long day against good teams.

Our D has given Sark cover that our run game is suspect against good fronts.  suspect meaning we can get shut down sub 80 yards.  I wonder if Williams being out is a problem.  Goosby seems good but not sure about run block v pass block.

sans the first Georgia game, Quinn/Sark have been able to ham and egg it pretty good with the running game. 

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13 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

The read on the int wasn't bad. Bond was open. He puts some mustard on it and that is a TD. He threw slightly late and with not enough velocity

the off safety baited him into that but yeah the bold is the problem a lot on his deep balls.

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1 hour ago, JOSEYWALES66 said:

Not on the same level but Gardere to Johnny Walker in the Texas/OU game and Stafford to Jones at Arkansas are all time great plays. 

 

 

 

Tony Jones #4

Game winning last second TD at Arkansas!!! 🤘

 

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6 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

outside zone is the staple of his offense and what everything is built off of.  if we can't run OZ it is usually going to be a long day against good teams.

Our D has given Sark cover that our run game is suspect against good fronts.  suspect meaning we can get shut down sub 80 yards.  I wonder if Williams being out is a problem.  Goosby seems good but not sure about run block v pass block.

sans the first Georgia game, Quinn/Sark have been able to ham and egg it pretty good with the running game. 

We have to be able to punish teams for slanting on our outside zone plays. Normally, you'd expect that punishment to come when they slant the wrong way and we bust one for a 75 yard TD. Neither Georgia or ASU ever guessed incorrectly, which means neither was guessing. That is our problem. We slightly seemed to address it in game by lining up in the pistol and then motioning the back late. That's why the run opened up a bit in the 4th. 

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39 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

outside zone is the staple of his offense and what everything is built off of.  if we can't run OZ it is usually going to be a long day against good teams.

Our D has given Sark cover that our run game is suspect against good fronts.  suspect meaning we can get shut down sub 80 yards.  I wonder if Williams being out is a problem.  Goosby seems good but not sure about run block v pass block.

sans the first Georgia game, Quinn/Sark have been able to ham and egg it pretty good with the running game. 

Well, when I say don't go outside, I intended running. We run complex slow developing runs up the middle it fails then run outside. With the speed were are going to see at LB and safety thats going to continue to be unsuccessful moving forward. I'm not saying forgo the outside zone entirely but a lot of big pass plays this year were across the middle. Do it more often and mix in some middle middle screens occasionally at least. 2-3 per game and use that pretty spectacular TE we have in crossing on play action over the middle more often. Maybe some shotgun with down blocking.

The DCs won't have that on tape. 

There are others here that can speak more intelligently than I can to these options but damn, I can even see they would be beneficial.

Edit - Also, i see that fucking SUPER SLOW developing twirl a whirl dance dance revolution fucking play ONE more God damn time I'm likely to break something or suffer a stroke.

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1 hour ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Ohio St runs the Sark/Quinn nightmare fuel defense the cover 3 high....except they have Ohio St caliber athletes. We HAVE to run the ball against them, no matter what.

I think we see Sark fully  unload the bag for this game as this is game will likely be the one that crowns the champion. The other side of the bracket should not scare anyone playing/coaching in this game. 

Posted
3 hours ago, Rickylovesweed said:

Ewers is nowhere near Colt’s legacy but still nice to see him come up clutch.  

Two games is very near. That's all he needs.

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12 minutes ago, Sir Ulrich said:

I think we see Sark fully  unload the bag for this game 

Not gonna happen and we should probably file away this talking point. Sark gets in trouble when he's overthinking it IMO. If anything, he probably needs to pare things down. 

 

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I think we see Sark fully  unload the bag for this game as this is game will likely be the one that crowns the champion. The other side of the bracket should not scare anyone playing/coaching in this game. 

The funny thing is, I do believe this but if Texas somehow wins I could also see them
Losing in the championship game because they don’t step on the necks of their opponents when given the chance. I think they could easily beat ND/Penn state. Georgia who knows but if they keep all these teams in games, they could lose.

Also if Ohio state wins, 100% winning the whole thing.
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16 hours ago, Valmy77 said:

At one point didn't he almost always overthrow it?

I feel like he’s overcompensated for overthrowing In the past. This is a his who has a TikTok video throwing it 75 yards in high school. He’s obviously got the arm strength but seems to rainbow long passes when he has too much time to think about it. 

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2 hours ago, TreatyOak said:

Quinn in last five minutes of game & overtime:

11-14 
161 yards 
2 TDs

Both TD's were perfect throws. Because the first OT TD throw saved the season, less has been said about the throw to Helm, but it was truly perfection. 

How do you like that, Sam Leavitt? 

The throw to Helm happened so suddenly. It almost seemed like a replay. It was a great play actually that seems to have been lost in the discussion completely, ironically because it’s actually the game winning throw.

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8 minutes ago, Lhorn said:

Man watching those Ewers highlights, I got reminded of how many really high level throws he made he made yesterday.  Threw to some tight windows and to the credit of the WR, they made tough catches.  

There are times when he shows you that five star ability. Like those last three passes yesterday.

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7 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Probably because the damn broadcast came back to the game as Helm was catching the ball so no one knew what the fuck was going on.

Right. That’s what I thought. They cut into it right as the ball was snapped right?

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6 minutes ago, Xminus6 said:

The throw to Helm happened so suddenly. It almost seemed like a replay. It was a great play actually that seems to have been lost in the discussion completely, ironically because it’s actually the game winning throw.

I was very apprehensive about OT because I figured a team that could consistently grind out first downs running the ball had a big advantage.  
 

That quick TD was a relief.  I didn’t think this would ever be one of those 7 OT games.  Neither team wanted to rely on their kicker and these offenses both showed they can be stopped.  It wasnt a “no defense” game where you’re just gonna stand toe to toe and trade easy TDs.  

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7 minutes ago, Valmy77 said:

There are times when he shows you that five star ability. Like those last three passes yesterday.

Yeah but so many more than that. One that stands out was the 4th and 2 conversion where he threw it to the left sideline.  A terrible, low probability play but he made a money throw and WR went up and got it.  

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