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4 minutes ago, Derka said:

i keep seeing this posted- the inevitably of quinn ewers becoming the starter for the dolphins. one question though: how? he’s had his entire life to get good at qb and yet a few months ago, after years working closely under the best qb coach in football, quinn still wasn’t even the best qb on his own college roster, and again, was ranked 12th out of 14 sec qbs, and 200th out of qbs nationally. on what planet does he go from “plateaued in college where he was one of the weak links on his team” to “ready to play the toughest position in all of sports”? he couldn’t even move the ball against uga, tosu, arkansas, texas a&m, or arizona freaking state, but he’s about to be master an nfl offense, develop pocket presence, strengthen his arm, and wildly improve in composure, accuracy, and decision making, all while the game gets 10x faster and more complex? you sure about that?

i mean do y’all hear yourselves? tua and zach wilson are objectively better qbs than the oft-injured quinn ewers, and yet half this thread hasn’t shut up since april about how those two guys are so shitty and injury prone that the much shittier and also injury prone quinn ewers is destined to pass them and become the starter. literally just because he came to texas, and based zero percent in how good of a qb he is. weird how nobody ever predicts that the perennially underperforming tight end or safety or running back is on the verge of nfl stardom. always the qb.

if quinn ewers was the exact same qb with the exact same college career but he went to a&m he’d be this board’s favorite punching bag. but because he wore burnt orange he’s some sort of footballing hero who is destined to become the dolphins starter. fanatical. totally fanatical.

That's not at all what he said.

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1 minute ago, Derka said:

i keep seeing this posted- the inevitably of quinn ewers becoming the starter for the dolphins. one question though: how? he’s had his entire life to get good at qb and yet a few months ago, after years working closely under the best qb coach in football, quinn still wasn’t even the best qb on his own college roster, and again, was ranked 12th out of 14 sec qbs, and 200th out of qbs nationally. on what planet does he go from “plateaued in college where he was one of the weak links on his team” to “ready to play the toughest position in all of sports”? he couldn’t even move the ball against uga, tosu, arkansas, texas a&m, or arizona freaking state, but he’s about to be master an nfl offense, develop pocket presence, strengthen his arm, and wildly improve in composure, accuracy, and decision making, all while the game gets 10x faster and more complex? you sure about that?

i mean do y’all hear yourselves? tua and zach wilson are objectively better qbs than the oft-injured quinn ewers, and yet half this thread hasn’t shut up since april about how those two guys are so shitty and injury prone that the much shittier and also injury prone quinn ewers is destined to pass them and become the starter. literally just because he came to texas, and based zero percent in how good of a qb he is. weird how nobody ever predicts that the perennially underperforming tight end or safety or running back is on the verge of nfl stardom. always the qb.

if quinn ewers was the exact same qb with the exact same college career but he went to a&m he’d be this board’s favorite punching bag. but because he wore burnt orange he’s some sort of footballing hero who is destined to become the dolphins starter. fanatical. totally fanatical.

I said I'm hoping he does well, not that I expect it.

If he does well, it reflects well on the university.

Dude hung 50 on blowU his freshman year, it wasn't all bad while he was here dawg

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We all know the idea of a strawman (we are messageboard herectics, after all),but what has become popular these days (at least to me) is the use of Steelman/Steelmanning and how it's being used wrong in popular media.

(saw derka posted about quinn, so trying to get the thread back off track which--ironically enough-- is better than on track. the thread that proves the rule via exception).

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1 minute ago, SydneyCarton said:

While I don't disagree with much of what you wrote, your obsession with Quinn Ewers resembles the losers like Motown who follow your ass around to antagonize you. Weird

yes, me responding to posts about quinn ewers in the quinn ewers thread DOES resemble motown’s absolute lunatic behavior which has seen him banned no less than five times because of it.

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4 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

That's not at all what he said.

 

1 hour ago, Zeus said:

Tua is going to go down, Zach Wilson will probably stink, and he will get a chance in the next couple years. 

ok.

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17 minutes ago, Fondren & Main said:

Derka, serious question, why do you hate Quinn Ewers so much?  

i have serious question for all of you: what is wrong with your adult brains that makes you think that being critical of someone means you hate them? 

i hate jeff fisher. i megaloathe shaka smart. and then i come in here, and i read yalls thousands of posts about quinn ewers being a heisman candidate, and a first round draft pick, and maybe the no.1 overall draft pick, and how awesome he is despite all evidence to the contrary, and how he’s definitely going to be a starter in the nfl, and then i use stats, facts, and empirical evidence to tell you that you’re being blatantly homeriffic with your appraisals and predictions on quinn ewers.

then you fanatics, who’ve propped him up to this level that he has objectively never been at, say that i hate quinn ewers, simply because i try and reel y’all back in. you guys hate me and my rational posts 1,000x more than i “hate” quinn ewers.

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I'd ask you to say who exactly has Quinn as their "wonderboy" but I'd guess it's anyone who disagrees with you and Derka. 

It seems most are rooting for him because he's a Horn

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1 minute ago, Js1 said:

I'd ask you to say who exactly has Quinn as their "wonderboy" but I'd guess it's anyone who disagrees with you and Derka. 

It seems most are rooting for him because he's a Horn

The guy who said Quinn could start for 2 NFL teams right now is the prime example. But the wonderboy stuff was for those who defended his poor play and made every excuse for him in this very thread while at Texas.

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5 minutes ago, Derka said:

i have serious question for all of you: what is wrong with your adult brains that makes you think that being critical of someone means you hate them? 

i hate jeff fisher. i megaloathe shaka smart. and then i come in here, and i read yalls thousands of posts about quinn ewers being a heisman candidate, and a first round draft pick, and maybe the no.1 overall draft pick, and how awesome he is despite all evidence to the contrary, and how he’s definitely going to be a starter in the nfl, and then i use stats, facts, and empirical evidence to tell you that you’re being blatantly homeriffic with your appraisals and predictions on quinn ewers. then you fanatics, who’ve propped him up to this level that he has objectively never been at, say that i hate quinn ewers, simply because i try and reel y’all back in. you guys hate me and my rational posts 1,000x more than i “hate” quinn ewers.

How do you feel about Rick Barnes?

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13 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

It is pretty comical how bad this board shits on Zach Wilson yet the boards wonderboy(in some eyes on this thread)  is behind him and can't beat him out.

imagine if quinn, an objectively disappointing, underwhelming, underachieving, oft injured qb who was drafted late in the 7th round, had gone to literally any other school. there wouldn’t be a single person here who was even a fan of him as a qb, but because he wore burnt orange he’s now destined to become a starting nfl qb who sticks in the league. not because of his poise, or his accuracy, or all of the big games where he led his team to a win- literally just because he came to Texas. that’s why this board has spent years pretending he’s awesome, and projecting future success for him. he’s like this board’s dotard for magas- any perceived slight against him is taken personally by people who’ve never met him, as if it’s a personal attack on them. posting actual facts about quinn ewers’s performance as a college qb gets taken as a personal attack by countless keyboard warriors who have no relation to him. truly cult like behavior.

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5 minutes ago, Js1 said:

It seems most are rooting for him wildly inflating everything he did well, equally downplaying the multitude of deficiencies in his game, and making baseless predictions of future success because he's a Horn

fify.

Posted
22 minutes ago, Derka said:

 

ok.

I mean, read with comprehension.  He literally said "clipboard" and his point was that Quinn would probably get a start down the road given Tua's injury tendencies and Wilson's proclivity to suck.  Nobody is saying QE is going to the HOF, but he certainly has a good chance at a start or two.  At that point, all bets are off.

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21 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

The guy who said Quinn could start for 2 NFL teams right now is the prime example. But the wonderboy stuff was for those who defended his poor play and made every excuse for him in this very thread while at Texas.

when quinn announced he was going pro it was like half of our fan base was watching their twin brother go off to war. the sheer volume of weepy “thank you quinn- no, seriously, thank you- you’ve changed my life” type tributes on this board, on reddit, on twitter, etc, was shocking.

weird how none of that energy or any of those heartfelt tribute posts/threads ever showed up for jahdae barron, kelvin banks, xavier worthy, jaylan ford, byron murphy, t’vondre sweat, ad mitchell, matthew golden, jonathan brooks, or any of quinn’s other objectively better, more impactful, more nfl ready teammates, including bijan robinson(!!).

this fan base has spent the last two+ years acting as if quinn ewers singlehandedly put Texas back on the map, when in reality most of his best work came in getting other people to want to come play here, and not in anything he did on the field, particularly during our biggest games where he often struggled, especially his final two years here. that anyone here is still pushing back against the idea that quinn ewers is the board’s favorite son is insane.

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44 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

While I don't disagree with much of what you wrote, your obsession with Quinn Ewers resembles the losers like Motown who follow your ass around to antagonize you. Weird

That being said, Quinn was a heralded recruit, and him coming here helped signal that UT was a place to consider, and he helped change the perception and even the trajectory of this program, along with a lot of other people, obviously. So I'll always be grateful to him for that. 

Honestly... I think the NIL money flipping Banks was the first pebble in the recruiting avalanche. Simms (to rehash the old argument) was that guy under Brown; if we don't get Simms, we don't get... a huge number of recruits who eventually helped us win in '05. 

But when in the aftermath of the Sark era, I don't think we'll see it as Banks nor Ewers. We'll see it as Manning.

At least Manning, for now, isn't getting the Simms treatment. Manning's going to make mistakes, though. And I'm not looking forward to what happens when he does.

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45 minutes ago, Zeus said:

I said I'm hoping he does well, not that I expect it.

If he does well, it reflects well on the university.

Dude hung 50 on blowU his freshman year, it wasn't all bad while he was here dawg

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52 minutes ago, Derka said:

imagine if quinn, an objectively disappointing, underwhelming, underachieving, oft injured qb who was drafted late in the 7th round, had gone to literally any other school. there wouldn’t be a single person here who was even a fan of him as a qb,

You sure about that? 

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On 8/27/2025 at 11:04 AM, closetojumping said:

Weren't you there with me? It's been a long time. But, yes, some fatass woman with a tiny husband and two pre-teen kids was getting into her minivan and turned around to a group of us and started yelling that "texassss sucks" and other inanities. I told her she needed to drop a couple hundred pounds and stop embarrassing her little husband and idiot kids in public. I believe her son now posts on this site as @Chewbacca.

Texas fan calling Colorado fans fat?  That's a new take.

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6 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

Quinn Ewers accomplished more than Rick Barnes at the University of Texas by leading his team to two Final Four finishes.

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37 minutes ago, Rimbo said:

Honestly... I think the NIL money flipping Banks was the first pebble in the recruiting avalanche. Simms (to rehash the old argument) was that guy under Brown; if we don't get Simms, we don't get... a huge number of recruits who eventually helped us win in '05. 

But when in the aftermath of the Sark era, I don't think we'll see it as Banks nor Ewers. We'll see it as Manning.

At least Manning, for now, isn't getting the Simms treatment. Manning's going to make mistakes, though. And I'm not looking forward to what happens when he does.

While I appreciate you trying to give me credit, I really do think it was Ewers. The Pancake factory was nice, but Ewers was the wake up bell, and Manning was the air raid siren.

10 minutes ago, TreatyOak said:

You sure about that? 

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Ok, but how would you feel if Quinn had gone to Lake Travis?

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1 minute ago, SydneyCarton said:

Ok, but how would you feel if Quinn had gone to Lake Travis?

Four years of loathing and hate-rage that induces hysterical blindness, followed by forgiveness and support.

I support all the players. I still have PTSD from Baker's reign at LT, but I support him now. 

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2 hours ago, Derka said:

yes, me responding to posts about quinn ewers in the quinn ewers thread DOES resemble motown’s absolute lunatic behavior which has seen him banned no less than five times because of it.

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Responding to my post, nah that's not the tell. It's you continuing to returning to this thread, unprompted, where you think everyone other than BO&W is a complete fucking idiot to stir the pot with new content. I was responding to YOUR comment on the quinn ewers thread, not the other way around. You know, this one, which I quoted in my post:
 

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i keep seeing this posted- the inevitably of quinn ewers becoming the starter for the dolphins. one question though: how? he’s had his entire life to get good at qb and yet a few months ago, after years working closely under the best qb coach in football, quinn still wasn’t even the best qb on his own college roster, and again, was ranked 12th out of 14 sec qbs, and 200th out of qbs nationally. on what planet does he go from “plateaued in college where he was one of the weak links on his team” to “ready to play the toughest position in all of sports”? he couldn’t even move the ball against uga, tosu, arkansas, texas a&m, or arizona freaking state, but he’s about to be master an nfl offense, develop pocket presence, strengthen his arm, and wildly improve in composure, accuracy, and decision making, all while the game gets 10x faster and more complex? you sure about that?

i mean do y’all hear yourselves? tua and zach wilson are objectively better qbs than the oft-injured quinn ewers, and yet half this thread hasn’t shut up since april about how those two guys are so shitty and injury prone that the much shittier and also injury prone quinn ewers is destined to pass them and become the starter. literally just because he came to texas, and based zero percent in how good of a qb he is. weird how nobody ever predicts that the perennially underperforming tight end or safety or running back is on the verge of nfl stardom. always the qb.

if quinn ewers was the exact same qb with the exact same college career but he went to a&m he’d be this board’s favorite punching bag. but because he wore burnt orange he’s some sort of footballing hero who is destined to become the dolphins starter. fanatical. totally fanatical.



No one summed you here today. No one tagged you. You've been at this for years, you know you're not changing anyone's minds. So yeah, there are similarities. And I'm not sure you want to say "well, that guy has been banned X times because of his behavior." Glass houses, my man.

You know the truth about Ewers. So why the fuck do you even come back to this thread? I sure as shit don't return to any "Thank you Mack Brown" threads to start shit with obvious, mentally deficient idiots. 

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1 hour ago, Derka said:

imagine if quinn, an objectively disappointing, underwhelming, underachieving, oft injured qb who was drafted late in the 7th round, had gone to literally any other school. there wouldn’t be a single person here who was even a fan of him as a qb, but because he wore burnt orange he’s now destined to become a starting nfl qb who sticks in the league. not because of his poise, or his accuracy, or all of the big games where he led his team to a win- literally just because he came to Texas. that’s why this board has spent years pretending he’s awesome, and projecting future success for him. he’s like this board’s dotard for magas- any perceived slight against him is taken personally by people who’ve never met him, as if it’s a personal attack on them. posting actual facts about quinn ewers’s performance as a college qb gets taken as a personal attack by countless keyboard warriors who have no relation to him. truly cult like behavior.

Has it occurred to you that maybe you're not presenting some enlightened take on Ewers to most of us? I've only watched you post for 20 years, so the question is rhetorical. 

It's not a revelation that people would cheer for a guy who played for their program when he gets to the next level. It's not a revelation that the majority of those same people would have no interest in cheering for that same guy at the next level if he didn't go to their school. There are very few players in the NFL or MLB, who aren't on my pro teams, that I would ever cheer for unless the player went to Texas. 

I don't understand why you think this is some amazing point.

3 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Responding to my post, nah that's not the tell. It's you continuing to returning to this thread, unprompted, where you think everyone other than BO&W is a complete fucking idiot to stir the pot with new content. I was responding to YOUR comment on the quinn ewers thread, not the other way around. You know, this one, which I quoted in my post:
 



No one summed you here today. No one tagged you. You've been at this for years, you know you're not changing anyone's minds. So yeah, there are similarities. And I'm not sure you want to say "well, that guy has been banned X times because of his behavior." Glass houses, my man.

You know the truth about Ewers. So why the fuck do you even come back to this thread? I sure as shit don't return to any "Thank you Mack Brown" threads to start shit obvious, mentally deficient idiots. 

Is this a serious question? He returns again and again because you just don't get it, man, and he really, really fucking needs you to get it. He is going to tilt at this windmill for as long as it takes. 

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2 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

Has it occurred to you that maybe you're not presenting some enlightened take on Ewers to most of us? I've only watched you post for 20 years, so the question is rhetorical. 

It's not a revelation that people would cheer for a guy who played for their program when he gets to the next level. It's not a revelation that the majority of those same people would have no interest in cheering for that same guy at the next level if he didn't go to their school. There are very few players in the NFL or MLB, who aren't on my pro teams, that I would ever cheer for unless the player went to Texas. 

I don't understand why you think this is some amazing point.

Is this a serious question? He returns again and again because you just don't get it, man, and he really, really fucking needs you to get it. He is going to tilt at this windmill for as long as it takes. 

I know, it just makes me sad. 

Posted
35 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

Quinn Ewers accomplished more than Rick Barnes at the University of Texas by leading his team to two Final Four finishes.

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One of the super powers I had in my career was the ability to sorta attach myself to a problem and chew at it until it was solved. This was very good for, say, incredibly hard to find bugs that had to be fixed, or writing new things that needed in-depth knowledge that no one, including me, had yet.

But this is a terrible trait to have when you either get obsessed with something that isn't an issue the business is concerned with... and when getting into arguments with people on the Internet, whether right or wrong.

I'm getting better at it, but still struggle.

So on the one hand, I sympathize with Derka, and would be a hypocrite if I didn't. On the other hand, since I know what the answer is, and Derka knows what the answer is, I think less of him as a person because he refuses to do it. 

USE THE GODDAMN IGNORE FEATURE @Derka!!!

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12 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

It's not a revelation that people would cheer for a guy who played for their program when he gets to the next level. It's not a revelation that the majority of those same people would have no interest in cheering for that same guy at the next level if he didn't go to their school.

so you don’t understand the difference in cheering for someone and predicting future success for that person? you think that hoping he does well and predicting that he will do well are the same thing. right. you’re too intelligent for this dumbass take.

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1 minute ago, Derka said:

so you don’t understand the difference in cheering for someone and predicting future success for that person? you think that rooting he does well and predicting that he will do well are the same thing. you’re too intelligent for this dumbass take.

You're correct that I am too intelligent for that dumbass take, which is why I didn't make it. Do you really wish to get into a game of rhetorical cat & mouse with me? You've presented a false premise and you've done it so cheaply that I don't feel like dignifying with a thoughtful response. 

 

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14 minutes ago, Rimbo said:

One of the super powers I had in my career was the ability to sorta attach myself to a problem and chew at it until it was solved. This was very good for, say, incredibly hard to find bugs that had to be fixed, or writing new things that needed in-depth knowledge that no one, including me, had yet.

But this is a terrible trait to have when you either get obsessed with something that isn't an issue the business is concerned with... and when getting into arguments with people on the Internet, whether right or wrong.

I'm getting better at it, but still struggle.

So on the one hand, I sympathize with Derka, and would be a hypocrite if I didn't. On the other hand, since I know what the answer is, and Derka knows what the answer is, I think less of him as a person because he refuses to do it. 

USE THE GODDAMN IGNORE FEATURE @Derka!!!

why is it that everyone who slurps quinn ewers ad nauseam gets to re-post their same takes over and over and over and over, but it’s this huge problem when i respond to it?

i know the answer. do you?

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it’s because you can’t handle hearing takes that don’t align with yours. 50 people can talk about how awesome he is and predict that he’ll become the dolphins starter before long and you’ll read every post with a smile on your face. then i respond to *one* of those posts, and all of a sudden you’re 

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you don’t care about anyone making the same points or arguments, you get upset whenever the argument doesn’t align with yours, which in this case means it doesn’t blindly pump sunshine about a guy who played at Texas.

 

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2 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

You're correct that I am too intelligent for that dumbass take, which is why I didn't make it. Do you really wish to get into a game of rhetorical cat & mouse with me? You've presented a false premise and you've done it so cheaply that I don't feel like dignifying with a thoughtful response. 

 

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3 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

You're correct that I am too intelligent for that dumbass take, which is why I didn't make it. Do you really wish to get into a game of rhetorical cat & mouse with me? You've presented a false premise and you've done it so cheaply that I don't feel like dignifying with a thoughtful response. 

 

you quoted me saying that if quinn ewers went to any other school that no one here would think highly of him as a qb, and then you responded with, “oh gee, people root for guys who played at their school, who knew?” what do you want me to do with that? pretend that your response to my post had anything to do with what i said? 

Posted
2 hours ago, Js1 said:

I'd buy that button down

with a button down collar? 

jesus...turn in your gay card please.

(just contributing to this being the world's worst thread)

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13 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

How is saying someone will carry a clipboard and eventually get a shot due to injury and/or weakness in the depth chart "predicting future success"?

Him making Zeus look like the smart one  here is something 

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Posted (edited)

Getting the discussion back on topic, I think the phrase “exception proves the rule” may also be considered in its inverse form “every rule has an exception”, which is probably the source of the colloquial usage. I am sure our plethora of lawyers would agree since their livelihood depends on finding the exceptions (loopholes) to any rule that the judicial system tries to circumscribe them with. After all, their blood-drenched clients don’t happily pay them for following the law. 
 

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