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15 hours ago, William Bludworth said:

Fuck, dude. Are you really like this outside of your message board tough guy persona? You need to look into Hinduism and check yourself. You take shit too seriously for anyone to take you seriously. 
 

Fuck off with your negative bullshit. It's in every fucking thread. You just have to take a shit on someone and thump your chest. Fucking chill the fuck out for a change. 
 

It went from seven win Steve to moving the goal posts. Give it a rest, already. 

You’ve been around since Hornfans, right?

 

 

 

it’s RIGHT THERE IN HIS FUCKING SCREENNAME.

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Posted
12 hours ago, satyanash said:

A bad throw on a fade route is (nearly) always just an incompletion. A bad throw on a quick out can easily be jumped and go the other way. 

It’s a low percentage play but can make sense in some circumstances (young QBs in the Redzone, low percentage 3rd downs). Always viewed the play to be more about the WR than the QB. You got a guy like M Irvin and I can see it being part of the offense. Someone big and crafty (his patented push off) that is a beast in 50/50 situations. Nobody on the current roster has shown that ability though. 

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15 hours ago, closetojumping said:

I never noticed. Now I cannot unsee it. 

Just wait until Drew Martin reads my email and the stadium starts blasting Gone Country or Chasing that Neon Rainbow when homeboy scores. 

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Posted
10 hours ago, Thetexashammer said:

Three things can happen when you pass the ball. Two of them are bad.

Couldn't you also say that about a run?

Fumble

Tackle for loss/no gain

Positive gain

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Posted
29 minutes ago, SL Xpress said:

You probably think Bill Snyder is very mid, too. 27 years with only two conference championships. No national titles. 

Compare what coaches did before and after Leach at Texas Tech, Washington State, and Mississippi State. I find your measurements for success in sports across the board on every sport you choose to opine about to be unreasonably excessive. It makes me wonder if the people around you measure your successes and failures similarly, and let you know about it on a daily basis. 

They do here.

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46 minutes ago, Vito Andolini said:

Awaiting Cooper tomorrow. Would like Benjamin 8/2, perhaps we’ll surprise.

Seems like Benjamin has been slip sliding away. I guess Oregon is just going to take 13 safeties this cycle. 

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13 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

Seems like Benjamin has been slip sliding away. I guess Oregon is just going to take 13 safeties this cycle. 

Great, now I have Paul Simon circulating in my brain…

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The other thing about Mike Leach that some forget is the fact he installed the offense at OU that won the national champsionship for them in 2000 under Mangino as OC, and led to their Big 12 success for so many years.

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Seems like Benjamin has been slip sliding away. I guess Oregon is just going to take 13 safeties this cycle. 

Lanning must have taken “How to sign a Paper Tiger Recruiting Class; Overload on Safeties and WRs” at the “Tom Herman School of Roster Development”
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Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, SydneyCarton said:

Show me a BO&W success here to measure.

Resiliency? He keeps showing up and for some that’s success.

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Posted
20 minutes ago, Thetexashammer said:

Damn. It's like nobody knows their history.

Everyone knows the fucking quote, dude. It doesn’t change the fact that, particularly in today’s modern age of football, it is an outdated and bad take. And trying to legitimately use it to justify modern football behavior is rightly mocked. 

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Posted
3 hours ago, BurntOrange&White said:

The dude didn’t give a fuck about defense, so excuse me for not placing some coach who again never won shit and doesn’t even have a conference title on his resume. Perhaps if he was a better HC he could have at least won a conference title. The only reason yall like him as much as you do here is his philosophical shit and his anti Aggie rants 

he was 9-4 v. aggy and drove them insane

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1 hour ago, Dbeasy said:

The other thing about Mike Leach that some forget is the fact he installed the offense at OU that won the national champsionship for them in 2000 under Mangino as OC, and led to their Big 12 success for so many years.

2000 was the first mack black saturday

i never thought of that - the pirate architected  that result

maybe i don't like him as much anymore

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Posted (edited)
3 hours ago, lilMAC25 said:

You’ve been around since Hornfans, right?

 

 

 

it’s RIGHT THERE IN HIS FUCKING SCREENNAME.

I didn't even know Hornsfans existed. My first dive into message boards was Shaggy. 

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Bobby Burton

 

 

Hollywood, Fla., running back Derrek Cooper announces his decision tomorrow evening at 6pm CT.

Cooper, one of the nation's top players, has it all. From size to speed, from toughness to elusiveness, he has the makings of a special running back. He even has good hands out of the backfield.

Cooper says he is deciding among Texas, Miami, Georgia, Ohio State and Florida State. Of course, dozens of schools put their name in the hat before Cooper narrowed his choices.

With about 36 hours to go, we believe Texas remains in the pole position. However, things can and do change quickly in this era of college football recruiting, so we'll keep our ears to the ground to the very end.

And one more thing that is worth thinking about...

Cooper is one of those few recruits teams just aren't going to walk away from after he announces. He's just too good for that; he's viewed as a potential difference maker by multiple teams (including Texas, of course). So the teams involved with his recruitment aren't going to go quietly.

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Cooper's national recruiting ranking seems to be all over the map. Some have him a top 2 or 3 back in the country; others have him outside the top 5. Texas and other colleges clearly view him among the very, very best, or they wouldn't be after him this hard.

And that leads me to this...

Here's something I think the recruiting ranking industry misses in a major way:

If a player is so good that certain teams are going to stay on a player even if they have committed elsewhere, I think that says more about how highly college coaches view those recruits.

I'm not just talking about Cooper here. Think of Malakai Lee, who is committed to Michigan, of Jameion Winfield who is committed to USC, of Kendal Guervil who is committed to Florida, as well as others. None of those players are "ranked" among the top 50 in the country. Yet Texas and other schools with a great, recent track record of developing and identifying talent sure are recruiting each of those guys like they are.

Consider this scenario. When some recruits announce for another program, Texas and other schools just move on down the road. Yet for others, they're willing to fight to the brutal end.

To me, that aspect is more telling of just how highly viewed a prospect is than any recruiting "rankings" list.

Simply put, if national recruiting powers who are producing draft picks like Texas, Alabama, Georgia, Ohio State, etc., are fighting to the very end on guys, it speaks infinitely more to the valuation and ranking of those players than any third party recruiting service who doesn't have their job on the line with a ranking.

The recruiting ranking industry ignores that, or at least attempts to. And I think it does a disservice to the players and coaches it is discounting.

Instead, it is more like a stock market that irrationally undervalues certain fundamental aspects.

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Posted (edited)
27 minutes ago, Hagbard Celine said:

2000 was the first mack black saturday

i never thought of that - the pirate architected  that result

maybe i don't like him as much anymore

Fucking Red October. Quentin Griffin just scored again.

Compare that blOU coaching staff to the one Mack had put together. Despite arriving at Texas a year earlier, Mack's was far inferior, especially on the defensive side of the ball. blOU had Mangino and Leach running their offense and Venables + Stoops on the defensive side, while we had GDGD and Bull Reese bumblefucking around. 

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4 hours ago, BurntOrange&White said:

The dude didn’t give a fuck about defense, so excuse me for not placing some coach who again never won shit and doesn’t even have a conference title on his resume. Perhaps if he was a better HC he could have at least won a conference title. The only reason yall like him as much as you do here is his philosophical shit and his anti Aggie rants 

Lets me ask you this sir?  Do you know who the HC was at Tech before him?  Or can you name all the head coaches in the big 12 when he took over the program. 

Im guessing more than 90% of this board couldn't name half on a good day without google. 

But you know Mike Leach. He was an offensive innovator in the sport and had a huge personality. 

That might not have equaled wins. But the Leach tree is big and significant. His contribution to the game can't be denied. 

Love him or hate him, his was a name. Be it his contribution or his personality. 

He might not have been someone a Bluebliod would hire. But tech and ol miss put butts in the seats.  And produced an entertaining product. 

And I really think that's the most we can ask from those kinda schools. 

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Posted
24 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Burton- it’s probably Texas tomorrow, but also keep in mind that it means less than ever before. 

sometimes you win, sometimes you lose.  sometimes it rains. 

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1 minute ago, FCB said:

Lets me ask you this sir?  Do you know who the HC was at Tech before him?  Or can you name all the head coaches in the big 12 when he took over the program. 

Im guessing more than 90% of this board couldn't name half on a good day without google. 

But you know Mike Leach. He was an offensive innovator in the sport and had a huge personality. 

That might not have equaled wins. But the Leach tree is big and significant. His contribution to the game can't be denied. 

Love him or hate him, his was a name. Be it his contribution or his personality. 

He might not have been someone a Bluebliod would hire. But tech and ol miss put butts in the seats.  And produced an entertaining product. 

And I really think that's the most we can ask from those kinda schools. 

I’ll take a stab. I need something to distract me from my wife’s driving. 
 

frank Solich, Bill Snyder, Mike Gundy, Bob Stoops, Mack Brown, Mike Sherman…in drawing a blank on Kansas and Iowa State, I’ll take a stab that Missouri was Gary Pinkel, obligatory fuck Gary Barnett, and Baylor was either Guy Morris’s or Kevin Steele. I think Steele. And of course Leach replaced Spyke Dykes. 

 

of course Kansas at could be the Ron Prince era, and maybe Nebraska had already moved onto Pelini Piss Pants. 
 

im guessing I got at least 2/3 of that right. 

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16 minutes ago, FCB said:

Lets me ask you this sir?  Do you know who the HC was at Tech before him?  Or can you name all the head coaches in the big 12 when he took over the program. 

He might not have been someone a Bluebliod would hire. But tech and ol miss put butts in the seats.  And produced an entertaining product. 

And I really think that's the most we can ask from those kinda schools. 

Let me as YOU this. Can you name the schools Leach coached at?

Guy didn't even become a senator after leaving Tech

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16 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

I’ll take a stab. I need something to distract me from my wife’s driving. 
 

frank Solich, Bill Snyder, Mike Gundy, Bob Stoops, Mack Brown, Mike Sherman…in drawing a blank on Kansas and Iowa State, I’ll take a stab that Missouri was Gary Pinkel, obligatory fuck Gary Barnett, and Baylor was either Guy Morris’s or Kevin Steele. I think Steele. And of course Leach replaced Spyke Dykes. 

 

of course Kansas at could be the Ron Prince era, and maybe Nebraska had already moved onto Pelini Piss Pants. 
 

im guessing I got at least 2/3 of that right. 

You sure you’re a fan?  You didn’t even mention the Arizona schools byu, Houston, west va, or central Florida. That’s half the conference!

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1 hour ago, Hagbard Celine said:

2000 was the first mack black saturday

i never thought of that - the pirate architected  that result

maybe i don't like him as much anymore

Wasn't that the game where the pirate left a fake game plan on the field after warmups for our coaches to find?

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Posted
10 hours ago, UncleSonny said:

 

The fun thing about this site to me is the characters. Once you kind of get a handle on who is who, everything kind of clicks onto place. The dumb shits consistency and reliability say dumb shit, but in a way it’s sort of nice. Kind of comforting in a strange way. 

It’s a relief when certain posters, especially BOW but others as well, disagree with me on here. It’s a better confirmation of how right I am than just about anything else. 

what’s funny is that with a lot of posters - futureman, helobious- Im fairly confident that it’s a bit or that they’re trolling. BOW definitely likes to troll, but he’s bad enough at it that you can tell when he’s being serious. I honestly doubt that hes that big of an asshole IRL, but on here hes something special. 

29 minutes ago, FCB said:

Lets me ask you this sir?  Do you know who the HC was at Tech before him?  Or can you name all the head coaches in the big 12 when he took over the program. 

Im guessing more than 90% of this board couldn't name half on a good day without google. 

But you know Mike Leach. He was an offensive innovator in the sport and had a huge personality. 

That might not have equaled wins. But the Leach tree is big and significant. His contribution to the game can't be denied. 

Love him or hate him, his was a name. Be it his contribution or his personality. 

He might not have been someone a Bluebliod would hire. But tech and ol miss put butts in the seats.  And produced an entertaining product. 

And I really think that's the most we can ask from those kinda schools. 

I would be honestly shocked if 90% of the people on this board dont remember Spike Dykes. First, because you’re all old as shit, and second, because his son is coaching at TCU. 

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39 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

I’ll take a stab. I need something to distract me from my wife’s driving. 
 

frank Solich, Bill Snyder, Mike Gundy, Bob Stoops, Mack Brown, Mike Sherman…in drawing a blank on Kansas and Iowa State, I’ll take a stab that Missouri was Gary Pinkel, obligatory fuck Gary Barnett, and Baylor was either Guy Morris’s or Kevin Steele. I think Steele. And of course Leach replaced Spyke Dykes. 

 

of course Kansas at could be the Ron Prince era, and maybe Nebraska had already moved onto Pelini Piss Pants. 
 

im guessing I got at least 2/3 of that right. 

Pretty sure Les Miles was still in Stillwater, Dan McCarney was in a corn maze, and RC was still in the pasture, but otherwise looks pretty good…and Steele for Baylor. Can’t remember who was at Kansas before Mangino because Glen Mason was already gone by then…right?

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Posted
35 minutes ago, FCB said:

Lets me ask you this sir?  Do you know who the HC was at Tech before him?  Or can you name all the head coaches in the big 12 when he took over the program. 

Im guessing more than 90% of this board couldn't name half on a good day without google. 

But you know Mike Leach. He was an offensive innovator in the sport and had a huge personality. 

That might not have equaled wins. But the Leach tree is big and significant. His contribution to the game can't be denied. 

Love him or hate him, his was a name. Be it his contribution or his personality. 

He might not have been someone a Bluebliod would hire. But tech and ol miss put butts in the seats.  And produced an entertaining product. 

And I really think that's the most we can ask from those kinda schools. 

Chip, your argument would have been a lot stronger had you not named Ole Miss.

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3 minutes ago, Vito Andolini said:

Chip, your argument would have been a lot stronger had you not named Ole Miss.

It's past noon. Im drunk. You act like I wrote for a living or something 

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5 minutes ago, IDIOTsavant said:

Pretty sure Les Miles was still in Stillwater, Dan McCarney was in a corn maze, and RC was still in the pasture, but otherwise looks pretty good…and Steele for Baylor. Can’t remember who was at Kansas before Mangino because Glen West was already gone by then…right?

My biggest difficulty was that I don’t know when leach was named coach at tech. The difference in coaches between 2000 and 2002 or 2003 makes a difference. 

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2 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

My biggest difficulty was that I don’t know when leach was named coach at tech. The difference in coaches between 2000 and 2002 or 2003 makes a difference. 

I’m pretty sure Leach was only there 2 years and bounced after they beat Florida State in the 2001 Orange Bowl.

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1 minute ago, IDIOTsavant said:

I’m pretty sure Leach was only there 2 years and bounced after they beat Florida State in the 2001 Orange Bowl.

I didn’t think he was even on the national champs. That he installed and jetted, but that’s can’t be right now that I think about it. 
Someone left after a year- right?  

Posted
1 minute ago, IDIOTsavant said:

I’m pretty sure Leach was only there 2 years and bounced after they beat Florida State in the 2001 Orange Bowl.

I dunno. It might been before that. Part of me wants to say he was just at OU a year, and stoops first year was 1999. 

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3 minutes ago, Wulaw Horn said:

I didn’t think he was even on the national champs. That he installed and jetted, but that’s can’t be right now that I think about it. 
Someone left after a year- right?  

Was driving me nuts, so I looked it up, and yes, he was only at OU for one season. Our list of 2000 big 12 coaches was good save for Bob Simmons at Oklahoma State, Terry Allen at Kansas, and Larry Smith at Missouri.

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