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17 hours ago, BigHornedLurker said:

yea this has come up multiple times, my pet theory is a large part of Vegetables struggles are two fold 

1. NIL and and Brokelahoma 
2. The advent of the helmet changes post-michigan scandal 

thats one heck of a 1-2 punch 

So they can no longer cheat to win. That's all you had to say.

edit: I would add 3. no more Rig XII refs that let them hold on every play

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9 minutes ago, Scholz said:

So they can no longer cheat to win. That's all you had to say.

edit: I would add 3. no more Rig XII refs that let them hold on every play

#3 so huge

Truthfully I would have liked Riley to stay and number 3 be number 1 so we can see his burnt brisket visor wearing bum ass go down in flames and go away with a laughable legacy. 

 

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yea its been so long i had blocked out how bad the big12 was about not calling holding on them , or maybe conversely how bad they were at calling it on us. 

playing bama the season before we moved was eye opening, like hell ya this gonna be good 

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13 hours ago, BurgleBro said:

#3 so huge

Truthfully I would have liked Riley to stay and number 3 be number 1 so we can see his burnt brisket visor wearing bum ass go down in flames and go away with a laughable legacy. 

 

I go back and forth between this and being happy Riley torpedoed two programs I despise.

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More deep dive into OU history. 
 
Switzer was forced to resign, as noted in last entry, for fear of further investigations discovering more embarrassing felonies. He wrote an autobiography, “Bootlegger’s Boy”, where he explained that every charge was the result of some unreasonably hostile person having a vendetta against him, and if he did do anything wrong, it wasn’t anything that everyone else wasn’t also doing. 
 
This is almost, but not quite, the end of Switzer’s story with Sooner football.  Despite his all time leading winning percentage as a coach, no major program contacted the (still relatively young) coach for an open job. He was famously napping in the couch when Jerry Jones offered him the job as coach of the young Cowboys team, recent two time SuperBowl champions. His charter was to keep the team steered forward, changing as little as possible. He fucked up his first season, blowing the NFC CG. The Cowboys won the Super Bowl his second season, as team leaders pulled it back together from a near midseason collapse. They lost in the playoffs his third season and then the franchise collapsed. 
 
Troy Aikman did not like Switzer’s slapdash coaching style. Switzer didn’t like that the team’s most important player didn’t like him. Switzer had hired an old crony, John Blake, to be an assistant and running buddy. John Blake decided to prop Switzer up in the locker room by spreading rumors that Aikman was racist and gay. That pissed Aikman off. Luckily, OU needed a coach and Switzer was able to foist Blake off on the Sooners. 
 
There is more- criminals arrests, lawsuits, unseemly allegations. Switzer’s SIL formed a financial alliance with Toby Keith and Bob Stoops, where they prey on OKC money, arranging business ventures where the jock sniffing investors carry all the risk. 
 
I guess I should mention- Gary Gibbs took over as HC after Switzer. He was a solid coach, but with limited cheating, 8-4 seemed to be his program ceiling. He was fired and replaced by Howard Schnellenberger, who was fired after one season. Then, Blake was hired and finally, a new AD, Joe Castiglione, hired Florida DC Bob Stoops. 
 
Stiops was a truly great coach, able to have great success even at the limited level of cheating allowed. He also “wrote” an autobiography, “No Excuses”, the idea being that the secret of his success was his rejection of making excuses for shortcomings and challenges. In the book, he makes an excuse for losing to Florida in the BCS CG (his RB and DT were out injured. He doesn’t mention that they were injured in the B12 CG and he assured the nation’s voters that each would play in the BCS CG, lest they vote for Texas to ascend). He also makes an excuse for Joe Mixon breaking that girl’s face, repeating a debunked allegation that she said something confrontational. 
 
it’s not 100% true that Stoops allowed misbehavior or that he proscribed it. The truth is- average and poor players had zero tolerance. Star players were allowed to get away with anything. 
 
Oklahoma Sooners football, y’all!

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8 minutes ago, statsman said:

More deep dive into OU history. 
 
Switzer was forced to resign, as noted in last entry, for fear of further investigations discovering more embarrassing felonies. He wrote an autobiography, “Bootlegger’s Boy”, where he explained that every charge was the result of some unreasonably hostile person having a vendetta against him, and if he did do anything wrong, it wasn’t anything that everyone else wasn’t also doing. 
 
This is almost, but not quite, the end of Switzer’s story with Sooner football.  Despite his all time leading winning percentage as a coach, no major program contacted the (still relatively young) coach for an open job. He was famously napping in the couch when Jerry Jones offered him the job as coach of the young Cowboys team, recent two time SuperBowl champions. His charter was to keep the team steered forward, changing as little as possible. He fucked up his first season, blowing the NFC CG. The Cowboys won the Super Bowl his second season, as team leaders pulled it back together from a near midseason collapse. They lost in the playoffs his third season and then the franchise collapsed. 
 
Troy Aikman did not like Switzer’s slapdash coaching style. Switzer didn’t like that the team’s most important player didn’t like him. Switzer had hired an old crony, John Blake, to be an assistant and running buddy. John Blake decided to prop Switzer up in the locker room by spreading rumors that Aikman was racist and gay. That pissed Aikman off. Luckily, OU needed a coach and Switzer was able to foist Blake off on the Sooners. 
 
There is more- criminals arrests, lawsuits, unseemly allegations. Switzer’s SIL formed a financial alliance with Toby Keith and Bob Stoops, where they prey on OKC money, arranging business ventures where the jock sniffing investors carry all the risk. 
 
I guess I should mention- Gary Gibbs took over as HC after Switzer. He was a solid coach, but with limited cheating, 8-4 seemed to be his program ceiling. He was fired and replaced by Howard Schnellenberger, who was fired after one season. Then, Blake was hired and finally, a new AD, Joe Castiglione, hired Florida DC Bob Stoops. 
 
Stiops was a truly great coach, able to have great success even at the limited level of cheating allowed. He also “wrote” an autobiography, “No Excuses”, the idea being that the secret of his success was his rejection of making excuses for shortcomings and challenges. In the book, he makes an excuse for losing to Florida in the BCS CG (his RB and DT were out injured. He doesn’t mention that they were injured in the B12 CG and he assured the nation’s voters that each would play in the BCS CG, lest they vote for Texas to ascend). He also makes an excuse for Joe Mixon breaking that girl’s face, repeating a debunked allegation that she said something confrontational. 
 
it’s not 100% true that Stoops allowed misbehavior or that he proscribed it. The truth is- average and poor players had zero tolerance. Star players were allowed to get away with anything. 
 
Oklahoma Sooners football, y’all!

I found a copy of Barry’s book one time in a bookshop in Bellevue, WA. Cost me $3.50. Probably should have spent that on a venti Redeye instead. 

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1 minute ago, closetojumping said:

I found a copy of Barry’s book one time in a bookshop in Bellevue, WA. Cost me $3.50. Probably should have spent that on a venti Redeye instead. 

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I really appreciate the publisher's innate understanding of the target audience. "PICTURES INSIDE GUYS"

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38 minutes ago, statsman said:

it’s not 100% true that Stoops allowed misbehavior or that he proscribed it. The truth is- average and poor players had zero tolerance. Star players were allowed to get away with anything. 
 

I've always said the only difference between the way Stoops and Briles ran their programs was that Briles was on a campus where the type of players he brought in just didn't mix with the rest of the student population and thus those guys ended up doing worse things (at least bad acts that actually came to light).  The way Briles and Stoops recruited players with known character flaws and attempted to hide bad acts and bad actors were identical.  Had a former player from the 2000's tell me class wasn't even a thing and multiple players on the team couldn't read.  No telling what all never came to light at OU during his tenure.   F Stoops and OU.

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