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23 minutes ago, AeroHorn said:

Interesting to see Kamala pronunciation discussion. It is a very common Indian name with all three vowels being short and same (like “duh”). Of course, she may have her own way to pronounce her name and I haven’t heard her say her name. 

Fucking really?

 

 

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Well, I did it.  Read 24 hours of posts in the last 90 minutes.  Stupid work.

Seemed like a light newsday other than the GQP continuing to hang itself as anticipated.

One thing I'll chime in on is that there's is NO way Trump is going to be able to unchain himself from Vance.  There are much more powerful people behind the scene that know they are one McD supersized combo from a Vance presidency if he gets elected.

They know their platform, which effectively is let rich people do whatever the fuck they want and the hell with people and the planet, does not allow them to collect power via free elections.  They've commandeered the Trump candidacy to achieve their objectives and no amount of ridicule heaped upon Trump for picking Vance will empower Trump to force a change.

He's 100% stuck with him.  Hammer his ass relentlessly for the next 100 days.

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The only people that pronounce Kamala's name like it rhymes with "Impala" are right wing blowhards or those that consume too much media from them.

 

It's comma-la. It's not hard. It means "lotus" and it's a fairly common name, as pointed out above. Just another one of those under the radar attempts to emphasize her weird foreign name. It's Barack HUSSEIN Obama all over again. Don't fall for it.

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Posted
5 minutes ago, AeroHorn said:

I read. I don’t watch. 

Did you watch that easily accessible video where 4 different people say her name and she says her own name at the end? 

Posted
2 hours ago, Loch Ness Monster said:

My MAGA family talking points so far:

1. Nancy Pelosi and/or George Soros pulled off a coup! Nobody voted for Kamala. The evil Dems don't care about democracy. Also Kamala was involved in a cover up about Bidens health. When did she know?!?

2. Kamala invited all the illegal immigrants to come on over because they vote Dem. The MS-13 members are committing violent acts and also taking all the great jobs. 

3. She will turn America into a San Francisco hellscape. They are aborting babies, heroin needles everywhere and becoming trans or homeless.

4. She was only picked because she's black. Wait is she really even black? I heard she was Indian and Jamaican.

5. Did you hear about Kamala's sexual past?

 

Most frustrating part is their research or gotchas are Facebook posts or some random YouTube nut with 1000 views.


Trump raped a 13 yo

game set match

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Posted
3 minutes ago, Old Freak Nasty said:

I don't believe couches can consent so make that two rapists on the ticket.


Those little hussies were asking for it !!

shaking their cushions around 

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Posted
6 hours ago, AeroHorn said:

Of course, she may have her own way to pronounce her name and I haven’t heard her say her name. 

Go watch her VP debate

Kamala Harris Debate GIF by Election 2020

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13 hours ago, Js1 said:

Oh so a proper vetting

According to the MLA, when referring to Vance the proper word choice is casting

11 hours ago, closetohumping said:

This is the interior OL for the BVadgers

They're know as the Pink People Eaters

Posted
6 minutes ago, Js1 said:

First ad

 

I like the message, but if I were to nit pick, I wouldn't be opposed to a little more energy in her voice.

I thought the same about the ad yesterday where she just said she approved "of this message".

In the ad with Elizabeth Warren, she spoke with more oomph... I want that Kamala.

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8 hours ago, Biff Tannen said:

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Doesn't mean that it isn't a perfect allegory for where we late 70s-early 80s kids fit.  Just sit there with your fellow Gen X forgottens and know you at least got to give us great music in the early 90s.  Let us have SOMETHING.

We get to pick and choose our generational affiliations - mostly Gen X with a little bit of the best of what the Millennials offer, just for flavor. 

We're the McDLT Generation. 

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Posted (edited)
9 hours ago, Beantown Express 2.0 said:

 I want to know what high ranking dem is telling people they only have a 40% chance of winning.  Maybe Manchin would say that.

I hear from someone in a position to know that Manchin is extremely unhappy with Kamala’s swift consolidation of delegates and ascent to the nomination. He genuinely believes she can’t win, doesn’t like her politics, and we can speculate that he actually thought he had a chance to win the nomination or at least play kingmaker. 
 

There’s also a rumor circulating that Obama is furious about Kamala locking it up so quickly because he wanted Kelly. 
 

TLDR: DEMS IN DISARRAY 

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Posted
23 minutes ago, mdmost said:

Nah, too much smiling, laughing, and being positive. /s

You jest, but for a certain section of voters, I actually think this is true.  She will have other ads more directly attacking him and the Rs I'm sure.  There has to be a lot of negativity against them because they are just so horrible.  People have to understand this.  Hope and change (what up Obama) will only get us so far this time.

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Just now, Bozo_Casanova said:

I hear from someone in a position to know that Manchin is extremely unhappy with Kamala’s swift consolidation of delegates and ascent to the nomination. He genuinely believes she can’t win, doesn’t like her politics, and we can speculate that he actually thought he had a chance to win the nomination.

Even he can't really be that stupid, can he?

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Just now, Biff Tannen said:

You jest, but for a certain section of voters, I actually think this is true.  She will have other ads more directly attacking him and the Rs I'm sure.  There has to be a lot of negativity against them because they are just so horrible.  People have to understand this.  Hope and change (what up Obama) will only get us so far this time.

True but you also need to keep yourself better than them. People need to see there's an alternative that aren't a bunch of unhappy shitbags pining for a time where black people, women, and other minorities were 2nd class citizens. 

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18 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

There’s also a rumor circulating that Obama is furious about Kamala locking it up so quickly because he wanted Kelly. 

If it's true that Obama is pissed, I hope he considers the significant number of minority voters who would have been furious if the sitting VP, a multiracial woman, was passed up by another old white dude.

I know I'm preaching to a large choir, but Kelly for President just wouldn't have moved the needle for a block of voters who were previously apathetic when Biden was the nominee.  

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We get to pick and choose our generational affiliations - mostly Gen X with a little bit of the best of what the Millennials offer, just for flavor. 
We're the McDLT Generation. 

I was born in ‘78. To young for the insane 80’s stuff. To young to see the GNR, Metallica show in the dome. We were raised by MTV and Nickelodeon. You Can’t Do That on TV and actual music videos that caused pearl clutching. We went from the end of disco to the beginning of the end of MTV - 1992’s Real World. We can program a VCR and make a .pdf.
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4 minutes ago, mdmost said:

True but you also need to keep yourself better than them. People need to see there's an alternative that aren't a bunch of unhappy shitbags pining for a time where black people, women, and other minorities were 2nd class citizens. 

Her first order of business is to define herself.  Starting out with negative ads is not a good idea - she needs to quickly start making sure voters know who she is and what she stands for first.  

GDP 2Q - 2.8% - above expectations, consumer spending above expectations, jobless claims down (again) - more economic good news for Harris (and Joe)

Emerson / Memerson (with corresponding Senate race)

Arizona Trump +5 (Gallego +4)
Georgia Trump +2
Michigan Trump +1 (Slotkin +5)
Pennsylvania Trump +2 (Casey +4)
Wisconsin Tie (Baldwin +6) 

Harris improved on Joe's numbers by +3 on average against their last polls.  And Trump is still stuck in the 46-48 range.  

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Posted
10 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

I hear from someone in a position to know that Manchin is extremely unhappy with Kamala’s swift consolidation of delegates and ascent to the nomination. He genuinely believes she can’t win, doesn’t like her politics, and we can speculate that he actually thought he had a chance to win the nomination or at least play kingmaker. 
 

There’s also a rumor circulating that Obama is furious about Kamala locking it up so quickly because he wanted Kelly. 
 

TLDR: DEMS IN DISARRAY 

Manchin being extremely stupid checks out. I’m sure that rumor is true.

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1 minute ago, Js1 said:

Her first order of business is to define herself.  Starting out with negative ads is not a good idea - she needs to quickly start making sure voters know who she is and what she stands for first.  

Agree.  The Israel/Palestine issue is going to be a thorny little bitch for her, though.  She's going to get hit with it as soon as she starts doing interviews.

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9 minutes ago, South Austin said:

If it's true that Obama is pissed, I hope he considers the significant number of minority voters who would have been furious if the sitting VP, a multiracial woman, was passed up by another old white dude.

I know I'm preaching to a large choir, but Kelly for President just wouldn't have moved the needle for block of voters who were previously apathetic when Biden was the nominee.  

But how would voters know or even consider Kelly since Barack "declined to endorse/stayed neutral" Obama didn't say anything?! 

Also yeah, Mark Kelly is cool, would make an awesome VP, but he was not going to move the needle, and in fact, would have been worse than Joe - he's not strong on labor (didn't say yes on the PRO Act until yesterday), he's iffy on the protestors (clapping enthusiastically at Bibi calling them Iran-funded)....

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Agree.  The Israel/Palestine issue is going to be a thorny little bitch for her, though.  She's going to get hit with it as soon as she starts doing interviews.

“We’ve called for and are working towards a cease fire.” Next question.
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10 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Her first order of business is to define herself.  Starting out with negative ads is not a good idea - she needs to quickly start making sure voters know who she is and what she stands for first.  

GDP 2Q - 2.8% - above expectations, consumer spending above expectations, jobless claims down (again) - more economic good news for Harris (and Joe)

Emerson / Memerson (with corresponding Senate race)

Arizona Trump +5 (Gallego +4)
Georgia Trump +2
Michigan Trump +1 (Slotkin +5)
Pennsylvania Trump +2 (Casey +4)
Wisconsin Tie (Baldwin +6) 

Harris improved on Joe's numbers by +3 on average against their last polls.  And Trump is still stuck in the 46-48 range.  

I still have a hard time reconciling this. Have we ever seen split polling like this before? Maybe we have and I just don't remember, but no way that many people are going to split ticket, right?

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Posted (edited)
27 minutes ago, South Austin said:

"Do you favor a two-state solution?"

"We've said before that a two-state solution is the best way towards a peaceful co-existence for both groups". 

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1 minute ago, mdmost said:

"We've said before that a two-state solutions is the best way towards a peaceful co-existence for both groups". 

If she can say that without cackling, we're good.

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Posted
Just now, LurkingHorn said:

I still have a hard time reconciling this. Have we ever seen split polling like this before? Maybe we have and I just don't remember, but no way that many people are going to split ticket, right?

Not at this level, no.  This is something you see with Senators with big personal brands (Tester, Manchin, Brown, Collins) but not in every single swing state in a presidential election. 

To me, it means Harris has room to grow.  We know Joe was lagging Senate candidates pretty badly, and we know why.  It was hard to see him recover.  There's still a lot of new-ness to Harris being the nominee and it's been 4 days? 

Posted
5 minutes ago, bolverk said:

Happy warrior

As a veteran of many wars (Call of Duty, Battlefield and as a special operator in the Rainbow Six series), there is not such thing as a happy warrior.  

War is hell.

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Posted
16 hours ago, TexArcher said:

Agreed.

I want to see Pete get a shot at Secretary of State.  Smartest guy in the room, speaks 7 languages including Arabic, military service, etc.  He'd crush that role.

I think this is the best role for his future after an 8 year Harris administration.  Being VP would waste his talents.

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Just now, DixonHur said:

As a veteran of many wars (Call of Duty, Battlefield and as a special operator in the Rainbow Six series), there is not such thing as a happy warrior.  

War is hell.

The phrase came to mind watching all the smiling faces while she said, "When we fight, we win." I'm sure you realize that she's trying to draw a contrast between Trump's embittered and angry supporters with the normies.

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8 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Not at this level, no.  This is something you see with Senators with big personal brands (Tester, Manchin, Brown, Collins) but not in every single swing state in a presidential election. 

To me, it means Harris has room to grow.  We know Joe was lagging Senate candidates pretty badly, and we know why.  It was hard to see him recover.  There's still a lot of new-ness to Harris being the nominee and it's been 4 days? 

If the AZ splits come to fruition, I have no clue what will happen with the rest of the country.  I would believe Texas going blue before I believe there are a ton of Gallego/Trump voters.

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Also if you really want to parse out those Emerson polls at the top, when discussing Harris' room to grow (in these polls): 

  • Better net favorability rating than Trump in all 3 Blue Wall states and a double digit better rating than Biden
  • Every state polled had her improving her numbers with young voters compared to Biden
  • All states polled show 10-15% of Dems who want a diff candidate and 5-10% who are unsure.  She has room to grow here as she consolidates more of the Dem base/Dem-leaning voters
  • Harris holds a lead with women in all 5 states, and double digit lead with them in the Blue Wall states.  Trump leads with men (no surprise)
  • Top 2 issues are economy and immigration. 
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Posted
2 minutes ago, bolverk said:

The phrase came to mind watching all the smiling faces while she said, "When we fight, we win." I'm sure you realize that she's trying to draw a contrast between Trump's embittered and angry supporters with the normies.

I know.  I threw out a stinker of a joke that didn't land.

I was making fun of the GOP gravy seals, who talk a big game online but would shit themselves in actual combat.

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3 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

If the AZ splits come to fruition, I have no clue what will happen with the rest of the country.  I would believe Texas going blue before I believe there are a ton of Gallego/Trump voters.

A big thing for her, which she already did in Wisconsin, is campaign with the Senate candidates and get tied to them. They didn’t want to be seen with Joe after the debates.

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17 minutes ago, DixonHur said:

As a veteran of many wars (Call of Duty, Battlefield and as a special operator in the Rainbow Six series), there is not such thing as a happy warrior.  

War is hell.

I fought the Japanese, Germans, and (shamefully) Indians across the lawns of Dallas and Houston. I died many times. My arm was shot many times. We didn't do it for medals or praise or some lame, "thank you for your service." We were soldiers and men (even the girls). We did what we had to do.

I sometimes wake up at night shouting, "Duck, Imaginary Man! Duck!"

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36 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

I hear from someone in a position to know that Manchin is extremely unhappy with Kamala’s swift consolidation of delegates and ascent to the nomination. He genuinely believes she can’t win, doesn’t like her politics, and we can speculate that he actually thought he had a chance to win the nomination or at least play kingmaker. 

TLDR: DEMS IN DISARRAY 

Manchin: “turn those machines back on.”

if a potential candidate wasn’t preparing, they weren’t a viable candidate. It’s like a former boss taught me that if you wait to declare interest, for a newly open promotion, you’re already late. It’s not like Biden’s action was out of the blue. I don’t care what he said the day before.

if manchin wanted to be kingmaker he should have had the balls to pressure Biden to drop out like Pelosi. Kamala would have owed him if he had helped to produce her ascent to candidate. Manchin was always just a legislator and contrarian “leader.” He never seemed to have the courage to risk his safe position. History will forget him.

 

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"We've said before that a two-state solutions is the best way towards a peaceful co-existence for both groups". 
That would probably be the best for Israel and Palestine as well.


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