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6 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:

I fought the Japanese, Germans, and (shamefully) Indians across the lawns of Dallas and Houston. I died many times. My arm was shot many times. We didn't do it for medals or praise or some lame, "thank you for your service." We were soldiers and men (even the girls). We did what we had to do.

What are we made of? Our fathers came across the prairies, fought Indians, fought drought, fought locusts, fought Dicks . . . remember when Richard Dicks came in here and tried to take over this town? Well, we didn't give up then, and by gum, we're not going to give up now!

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16 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:

I fought the Japanese, Germans, and (shamefully) Indians across the lawns of Dallas and Houston. I died many times. My arm was shot many times. We didn't do it for medals or praise or some lame, "thank you for your service." We were soldiers and men (even the girls). We did what we had to do.

I sometimes wake up at night shouting, "Duck, Imaginary Man! Duck!"

I was a highwayman, along the coach roads I did ride
With sword and pistol by my side
Many a young maid lost her baubles to my trade
Many a soldier shed his life blood on my blade
The bastards hung me in the spring of '25
But I am still alive

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39 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

If the AZ splits come to fruition, I have no clue what will happen with the rest of the country.  I would believe Texas going blue before I believe there are a ton of Gallego/Trump voters.

I would too, but it’s not required to play out that way. Basically some Trump voters would only vote for Trump, and some Gallego voters would have to vote for RFKJ, Stein, Cornell West etc.

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Just now, Bozo_Casanova said:

I would too, but it’s not required to play out that way. Basically some Trump voters would only vote for Trump, and some Gallego voters would have to vote for RFKJ, Stein, Cornell West etc.

I have a little bit of a fear that it’s hard to move people this late in the race. Once you’ve opened your mind to voting for somebody, you start considering their good points and maybe playing defense for their positions. Changing this late feels to some like an admission that they were wrong. No one wants to do that.

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1 minute ago, CooterBrown said:

We bring our love of brutal honestly, distrust of authority, sarcasm, casual sex, binge drinking, and weed and give no fucks about appeasing the other side. 

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10 hours ago, Loch Ness Monster said:

My MAGA family talking points so far:

1. Nancy Pelosi and/or George Soros pulled off a coup! Nobody voted for Kamala. The evil Dems don't care about democracy. Also Kamala was involved in a cover up about Bidens health. When did she know?!?

2. Kamala invited all the illegal immigrants to come on over because they vote Dem. The MS-13 members are committing violent acts and also taking all the great jobs. 

3. She will turn America into a San Francisco hellscape. They are aborting babies, heroin needles everywhere and becoming trans or homeless.

4. She was only picked because she's black. Wait is she really even black? I heard she was Indian and Jamaican.

5. Did you hear about Kamala's sexual past?

 

Most frustrating part is their research or gotchas are Facebook posts or some random YouTube nut with 1000 views.

Have you considered a new family?

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31 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

The Obama rumor is just silliness

Yep. As soon as Kamala accepts the nomination, she’ll have Obama’s full-throated endorsement. He’s just waiting until it’s official. 

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Eisenhower had the temerity to use a man servant to help him get dressed each day, including underwear.  Can you imagine what the GOP would think of that....today?


Perhaps there is something we don’t know about putting on Nazi killin’ undies that makes it a two man job…
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57 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Top 2 issues are economy and immigration. 

God dammit people.

Economy is the best on earth and continuing to get better and immigration was purposely scuttled by trump.  This isn't hard.

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Yep. Lay out how the economy has improved since 2020 while acknowledging we still have a ways to go but we can get there by ______. On immigration, lay out exactly what the border bill would've done and then constantly show Trump happily talking about killing the bill.

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1 minute ago, Biff Tannen said:

God dammit people.

Economy is the best on earth and continuing to get better and immigration was purposely scuttled by trump.  This isn't hard.

Also we don't really have that big of a migrant issue at the moment. It's kind of like this boogie man that doesn't have any data supporting it. 

The main gripe is the burden they place on the social welfare system without paying in, but I'm not sure the data is there to really support that theory from what I've looked at. 

The economy is a strange thing globally right now, everyone printed a different amount of money during COVID so the supply chains have normalized and the new reality of less complete reliance on China exclusively for manufacturing is working it's self through the system adjusting prices and the new taxes etc. The next phase is figuring out what to jubilee globally and how you reconcile the different central bank strategies to provide liquidity during the global pandemic crisis. 

That's not to say growth numbers aren't good right now in the US, it's just to say it's hard to really understand what that means in terms of real growth vs the natural rate vs a spread of liquidity or currency exchange. 

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1 minute ago, Pancho said:

Some of you are in the wrong lane when it comes to the Obama stuff and why he didn’t endorse early. Just tell you’re friends “that’s not true” and keep it moving.

Yeah I feel the Obama stuff is an angry Biden person who feels Obama didn't help Joe enough. Obama has shown he's trying to be like W and stay above the fray. It's a tad gutless but it does keep with ex-president tradition. 

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7 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

God dammit people.

Economy is the best on earth and continuing to get better and immigration was purposely scuttled by trump.  This isn't hard.

I used to dig deep into polling data about what Republican voters cared about and it was terrifying six years ago.  These people have such a warped perception of reality it’s no wonder we get someone like Trump. Another problem I have with polling data is the questions they don’t ask.  Like how best to address our actual real problems that go ignored or completely ignoring corruption as an issue entirely. 

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1 hour ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

I hear from someone in a position to know that Manchin is extremely unhappy with Kamala’s swift consolidation of delegates and ascent to the nomination. He genuinely believes she can’t win, doesn’t like her politics, and we can speculate that he actually thought he had a chance to win the nomination or at least play kingmaker. 
 

There’s also a rumor circulating that Obama is furious about Kamala locking it up so quickly because he wanted Kelly. 
 

TLDR: DEMS IN DISARRAY 

Munchkin don't mean shit.  No one outside his jackoff state gives a fuck about him and most of them don't either.

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15 minutes ago, immamac said:

Also we don't really have that big of a migrant issue at the moment. It's kind of like this boogie man that doesn't have any data supporting it. 

The main gripe is the burden they place on the social welfare system without paying in, but I'm not sure the data is there to really support that theory from what I've looked at. 

The economy is a strange thing globally right now, everyone printed a different amount of money during COVID so the supply chains have normalized and the new reality of less complete reliance on China exclusively for manufacturing is working it's self through the system adjusting prices and the new taxes etc. The next phase is figuring out what to jubilee globally and how you reconcile the different central bank strategies to provide liquidity during the global pandemic crisis. 

That's not to say growth numbers aren't good right now in the US, it's just to say it's hard to really understand what that means in terms of real growth vs the natural rate vs a spread of liquidity or currency exchange. 

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17 minutes ago, mdmost said:

Yep. Lay out how the economy has improved since 2020 while acknowledging we still have a ways to go but we can get there by ______. On immigration, lay out exactly what the border bill would've done and then constantly show Trump happily talking about killing the bill.

The economy has improved. The stock market is up. Oil production is way up. Crime is down. Oh and immigrants are less likely to commit crimes, so shove the whole "immigrant crime wave" up your ignorant asses.

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23 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

God dammit people.

Economy is the best on earth and continuing to get better and immigration was purposely scuttled by trump.  This isn't hard.

It's inflation. It's a side effect of rapid growth. Interest rates going up (which is necessary to deal with it) makes things worse for your pocketbook.

Democrats need to do a much better job telling people that Trump killed the border bill. Kamala needs to really lean into this and push hard.

Just now, Bozo_Casanova said:

That’s reasonable, but I am actually quite hopeful and compare this to 2016.

in 2016 a large number of Hillary voters (including me) were very unhappy with their option, and Democrats in general weren’t very enthusiastic about Her campaign. Republicans, by contrast were 100% enthusiastic about beating her and a plurality of Trump voters were positively giddy about their choice.

2024 feels the opposite way. A large number of Kamala voters are giddy about it, and Democrats in general are very enthusiastic and hopeful about beating Trump, while Republicans in general seem unhappy, grim, and directionless while also appearing to take victory for granted.

Kamala helps to solve the "double haters" issue - especially when it's two old white guys who struggle to complete a sentence. 

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Posted
True but you also need to keep yourself better than them. People need to see there's an alternative that aren't a bunch of unhappy shitbags pining for a time where black people, women, and other minorities were 2nd class citizens. 

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27 minutes ago, mdmost said:

Yep. Lay out how the economy has improved since 2020 while acknowledging we still have a ways to go but we can get there by ______. On immigration, lay out exactly what the border bill would've done and then constantly show Trump happily talking about killing the bill.

I hope they are capable of such clear and concise messaging. It is really very simple. Trump wants to paint a chaotic picture when, in reality, it’s pretty damn good right now. 

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Just now, TexEx15 said:

Maybe this is wishful thinking, but I feel like the biggest problem had been enthusiasm. With that taken care of, I feel like this should be an easy win. Yes Trump has a large and loud base, but it wasn’t enough in 2020 and he’s has done nothing to grow it since then. In fact it seems like he has probably only turned people off since then. Yes the maga dipshits are louder than ever but they alone can’t win this for Trump. With the enthusiasm issue solved it feels like this should go the Dems way in November. 

Elon buying Twitter was an enormous blow that can’t really be measured.  I think this gets overlooked in the discussion.  Another cryptofashy dipshit getting that weapon was one of the worst things to happen over the last four years. 

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Posted
Just now, Js1 said:

NBC: Obama on the verge of endorsing Harris; plans in the work to appear together on the campaign trail 

So, why "on the verge"?  Why wait?  Is this just timing staged to add another jolt of excitement?  

Posted
Just now, South Austin said:

So, why "on the verge"?  Why wait?  Is this just timing staged to add another jolt of excitement?  

sustain the momentum.

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2 minutes ago, South Austin said:

So, why "on the verge"?  Why wait?  Is this just timing staged to add another jolt of excitement?  

I believe the correct term is "edging."  Makes the money shot better.

Or so I've been told by the experts in the pornosphere.  I mean, so a friend of mine has been told.

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3 minutes ago, South Austin said:

So, why "on the verge"?  Why wait?  Is this just timing staged to add another jolt of excitement?  

I believe Obama has some of the best sense of timing of any pol in my life.

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8 minutes ago, South Austin said:

So, why "on the verge"?  Why wait?  Is this just timing staged to add another jolt of excitement?  

Yes, the same reason it wasn't day one for Pelosi, Schumer, and Jeffries.

 

The slow burn for maximum attention.

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