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14 hours ago, workswithseed said:

I think all ya'll all are liberals. 

Sure, I'll take the label as long as you recognize "conservative" no longer has any relation to the original meaning and now equates to something like "ignorant fascist twat."

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20 minutes ago, Chopper said:

Sure, I'll take the label as long as you recognize "conservative" no longer has any relation to the original meaning and now equates to something like "ignorant fascist twat."

I think dispys, Catholics, reformed, are all liberals.

I don't think you understand what I was calling liberal.

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16 hours ago, workswithseed said:

I think all ya'll all are liberals. 

But everyone else thinks y'all are toothless hillbilly Campbellite whack jobs.

It's one of the dumbest mutations of Christianity along with Historical Baptists.

 

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3 minutes ago, F250 said:

But everyone else thinks y'all are toothless hillbilly Campbellite whack jobs.

It's one of the dumbest mutations of Christianity along with Historical Baptists.

 

Should actually follow the bible, and not add to it. 

I bet you have to make sure the fog machines are on to make your preacher cooler. 

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9 minutes ago, workswithseed said:

Should actually follow the bible, and not add to it. 

I bet you have to make sure the fog machines are on to make your preacher cooler. 

Old or new testament? Asking for a friend. He wants to know what he can get away with in the name of Christianity.

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Just now, InkaUtexas said:

Old or new testament? Asking for a friend. He wants to know what he can get away with in the name of Christianity.

I don't think you should add to either, since it's the bible. 

But, I hear that there a denominations that'll let you do what you want. Something called TULIP is out there, and it's predestined he might still get in.

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21 minutes ago, workswithseed said:

I don't think you should add to either, since it's the bible. 

But, I hear that there a denominations that'll let you do what you want. Something called TULIP is out there, and it's predestined he might still get in.

Who Elon? Nah, he is going to the Afrikaners paradise. Them Boer Trekkers were hard core old testament folk.

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35 minutes ago, workswithseed said:

Should actually follow the bible, and not add to it. 

 

We shall put this on the wall along with some of the other stupidest things a person has ever written.

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6 minutes ago, workswithseed said:

Sorry you don't follow Deuteronomy 4:2

"Anyways, here's a whole new testament"

Referencing to that passage of the Torah in the context of modern evangelical Christianity is some top shelf shit, man. 

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3 minutes ago, Captainant said:

"Anyways, here's a whole new testament"

Referencing to that passage of the Torah in the context of modern evangelical Christianity is some top shelf shit, man. 

Sorry, your right, one isn't enough, here’s more.

 

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On 11/28/2024 at 2:23 PM, 956 Worldwide said:

His tweets about fighter jets knocked close to 4% off the value of a major defense contractor’s stock.

Won't somebody please think about the poor defense contractors!

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1 hour ago, workswithseed said:

I don't think you should add to either, since it's the bible. 

But, I hear that there a denominations that'll let you do what you want. Something called TULIP is out there, and it's predestined he might still get in.

Christianity has nothing to do with the Bible. 

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53 minutes ago, workswithseed said:

Sorry you don't follow Deuteronomy 4:2

Where do you make your wife go for the week every month she’s unclean?

Also it’s almost sunset in Oregon. Today’s the Sabbath. You logging off all your devices and turning off the tv?

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6 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

Where do you make your wife go for the week every month she’s unclean?

Also it’s almost sunset in Oregon. Today’s the Sabbath. You logging off all your devices and turning off the tv?

You're a Seventh Day Adventist. Maybe they'll tell you more about that. 

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2 hours ago, workswithseed said:

Should actually follow the bible, and not add to it. 

I bet you have to make sure the fog machines are on to make your preacher cooler. 

Eh, your statement is predicated on restoration nonsense that just results in circular reasoning. It's why Restorationism is a ridiculous concept.

If you really want to practice Christianity in the form closest to the early Christian church join the Orthodox church.

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45 minutes ago, workswithseed said:

Yeah, I mean you still do burnt offerings, right? Like in Dueteronomy to make the temple holy, right?

 

2 hours ago, workswithseed said:

Should actually follow the bible, and not add to it. 

 

This is what you say should be done, not me 

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2 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

 

This is what you say should be done, not me 

Oh, you're "just asking questions."  If you want to know how church should proceed, read Acts, it'll help you understand church.

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4 hours ago, Sawbonz said:

No, I’m pointing out your logical inconsistencies 

Spoiler

Intro: I. In 2:23-28 Jesus’ disciples will be accused of breaking the Sabbath. II. In 3:1-12 Jesus will be accused of breaking the Sabbath. The Sabbath Question: I. (23) The scene and setting of this question is on the Sabbath, the disciples are picking the heads of grain. a. The scene is pretty innocuous; the disciples are just taking a few heads of grain and eating them while walking. II. (24) In v. 24 they direct their accusation to Jesus and accuse the disciples of unlawful behaviour. a. In the Law of Moses, the Jews were forbidden to work on the sabbath – this law is enshrined in the very 10 commandments themselves, i. “Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is a sabbath of the LORD your God; in it you shall not do any work, you or your son or your daughter, your male or your female servant or your cattle or your sojourner who stays with you. For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea and all that is in them, and rested on the seventh day; therefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day and made it holy.” (Exodus 20:9-11) b. Farms did not have fences back then, and you make think that the first thing the Pharisees would accuse them of was stealing, but the law is specific that this is allowed (Read Deut. 23:24-25). i. This was part of the law of Moses’ system of welfare, if you are travelling you did not have petrol stations and fast food, so you were permitted to eat a little from the field of others, or pluck a few grapes. ii. As long as you weren’t actively harvesting their produce, this was considered acceptable. iii. (Brief Application, to the church and society). iv. From this verse, we can see that this was not really considered work but was rather just providing yourself with a meal. v. The Jews often feasted on the Sabbath, a practice that still goes on today. c. God was Serious about Sabbath Keeping: i. ‘Therefore you are to observe the sabbath, for it is holy to you. aEveryone who profanes it shall surely be put to death; for whoever does any work on it, that person shall be cut off from among his people. Exodus 31:14. ii. The punishment for sabbath breaking was death. iii. d. The oral tradition of the Rabbi had expanded out what it meant to work on the Sabbath. III. In v. 25-26 (READ) Jesus offers a counter-consideration to their tradition (In the Matthew account, he declares the disciple’s innocent of breaking God’s law (Matt. 12:7). a. He refers to a story in the life of David given in 1 Samuel 21:1-15. b. In this story, David and his men are on the run from Saul and need to eat and so they take the Holy bread consecrated to God by the priests. c. Some see in this Jesus setting up a principle of it being okay to break the law if another need like hunger arise. i. This view is problematic, though, because, in the wilderness, Jesus refused His own miraculous power to satisfy his human hunger after forty days. ii. Jesus himself reiterates his commitment to the law (Matt. 5:18-19). d. The argument Jesus seems to be making is putting out their hypocrisy – instead of dealing with the Pharisees false tradition, he points out their own inconsistencies. i. In Pharisaic tradition they were very unwilling to condemn David for anything other than killing Uriah, and because they held him in such high regard they had justified David’s behaviour in 1 Sam. 20. ii. Jesus is saying it is hypocritical to justify David for literally taking the consecrated bread, and yet condemn the disciples for picking a little bit of grain. IV. (27) From here, Jesus makes the claim “The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath.” a. I.e., God gave the sabbath ultimately to benefit the people of Israel, not harm them. b. Therefore, the question is, “Does sustaining human life and well-being count as work on the sabbath?” No! i. Everyone breaths on the sabbath, why should they not eat? V. (28) Finally, Jesus appeals to his ultimate authority. a. Jesus uses the divine title of the Son of Man and then makes another claim that would have shocked the Pharisees; he is claiming to be the “Lord even of the Sabbath.” i. I.e., he is identifying himself as the ultimate giver of the Ten Commandments and the law of Moses: God. Jesus Heals on the Sabbath 3:1-6 I. Intro: Jesus healing on the sabbath is the fifth and last of the conflicts in this section which will lead to the Jews desire to kill him. II. (1-2) Jesus is back in the synagogue, probably the same one that he usually attends in Capernaum. a. After all of the conflicts now with the religious leaders, they are watching Jesus like a hawk. III. This shows their wicked hearts… a. They were not interested in the implications of a man who has a power to heal. b. Nor were they interested in his reasoning behind healing on the Sabbath. c. They were simply hoping to catch him in the act to make an accusation, and re-assert their authority. IV. Interestingly, no one complained when Jesus cast out a demon on the sabbath in probably the same Synagogue in Mark 1:21-28 (Read). V. (3) Jesus wastes no time; he singles out the man with the withered hand, and knowing their heart, he immediately asks the pharisees a question. a. “Is it lawful to do good or to do harm on the Sabbath, to save a life or to kill.” i. Jesus is extending his principle that the Sabbath was made for man, not man for the sabbath, to the question of other aspects of health – like healing. VI. (4-5) Jesus was filled with anger at their attitude, intentions, and stubbornness – he immediately healed the mans hand. a. By healing the man, Jesus was answering his own question, “Yes, it is lawful to do good on the Sabbath.” VII. (6) The pharisees plot behind Jesus’ back to to destroy/I.e., kill him, with another group called the Herodians. VIII. WHO ARE THE HERODIANS? a. The Herodians are Jewish supporters of the Herodian dynasty who are of course in league with and under the thumb of Rome. b. Some even suggested that Herod was the messiah. c. Therefore, the Herodians were the opposite of the Pharisees, who were nationalists that hated the Romans. d. That they come together here to plot against Christ, shows that the Pharisees are even willing to compromise and unite with their enemies to take down Jesus. (This is a kind of theme in the gospel – all the kingdoms of the earth become one Kingdom, against Christ). 7-12 Jesus Withdraws and a Summary of his Ministry I. (7-8) Jesus, knowing that he was being plotted against, withdraws. However, the masses follow him. a. We can see from this list how far Jesus’ fame has spread, people have heard about it him as far south as Judea, and as far north as the Gentile territory of Tyre and Sidon (though they may have been Jews from those areas). II. (9-10) Much of the crowd was only interested in what Jesus could do for them, not how they could serve Jesus – this seen is a chaotic one. III. (11) The demon possessed in the crowd kept proclaiming “you are the Son of God” in their attempt to thwart Jesus’ objectives in his ministry. IV. (12) Jesus’ warned the demons to be quiet as he had done in the past – it can be presumed that thousands now know and expect who Jesus is, but that is far from understanding him.

 

Posted
32 minutes ago, workswithseed said:

As God intended. No disagreement there.

I thought you were Catholic. 

Nope, Methodist but I'll leave it to you to figure out why a Methodist would side with the Orthodox.

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On 11/28/2024 at 11:59 AM, Hefeweizen said:

He should hire Curt Schilling to run his game studio.

I just want to say that this was a really beautiful, deep comment for those who follow the video game industry (and maybe software in general), not because of Curt’s leanings but because of his business management…skills.  I remember watching it play out in real time and even had a friend that worked at 38 Studios, and I’ve read the articles, read the books that covered it, and it’s still amazing and hilarious at the same time.

Hell, I’ve thought about how I could get the state of Rhode Island to loan me $75 million, but first I’d have to have a Time Machine, go back in time, figure out in high school how to elevate my pitching to a level where I could pitch in college and then make it to the majors, and then win a World Series. It would probably be easier to go back in time and just sink everything I could into Apple stock and get the money that way.

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