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3 hours ago, goathumper said:

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A significant portion of Oregons 2nd and 3rd string D has portaled. A large number of them are headed for Berkeley

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2 hours ago, billfromlaketravis said:

What’s left?

- Delano Townsend. I think we’re done at OL if we get him. We can probably overpay some because Robertson is coming back. I’d prefer we take Townsend and another IOL starter, but they asked Robertson to come back for a reason, and I’m sure Brooks was expensive.

- Wendell Gregory. I think Bobby said Texas likes him, but his number is too high. But Gerry keeps bringing him up so I assume we’re negotiating.

- I think we need another LB, but Biles wasn’t cheap for sure. Losing the Wisconsin kid sucks because Biles and Smith are both WILLs.

- Gerry said we’re done at RB.

- Tre Richardson has gone awfully quiet. I’m pretty good with a big 3 of Coleman, Wingo, and Mosley. I’d spend the money elsewhere.

WTF. We have like 40 scholarships left to use. USE THEM.

Go grab all the biggest retard 2* O-line FBS & nicely rated FCS guys you can find and see if any of them break out during spring training.
This is our concern, dude. So, make it the thing we are unconcerned about.

8 minutes ago, ATXbronco said:

WTF. We have like 40 scholarships left to use. USE THEM.

Go grab all the biggest retard 2* O-line FBS & nicely rated FCS guys you can find and see if any of them break out during spring training.
This is our concern, dude. So, make it the thing we are unconcerned about.

So… you want us to follow the Aggie plan of portal recruiting. Got it

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Just now, Zhorn96 said:

So… you want us to follow the Aggie plan of portal

Recruiting. Got it

You're not paying attention.
We're putting all of our money into 50-70 scholarship kids.
With the new SEC rules, we can do 100+ scholarships(?).

That means you have 30+ freebies who will take up none, or hardly any of the "money share".

I think I get bronco’s point? I think Texas is concerned about revenue sharing. More scholarships, more mouths to feed. There’s also the Title IV implications. If they add 20 men’s scholarships, they have to add 20 women’s scholarships. That’s a big number, and would probably require them adding another women’s sport. Incredibly expensive.

Rod Babers made an extremely rare good point today. Guys that aren’t playing are dead money. Stashing developmental players sounds awesome, but it would be very costly. So costly I doubt any program approaches 105 scholarships. I doubt many schools approach 85 scholarships if there’s revenue sharing and a salary cap.

I have no idea why they passed this rule in the middle of the NIL experiment. Nobody was asking for it.

47 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

I’ll settle for a Phil Pozderac and Brian Baldinger

Oh gawd pls NO!

#FakeHoldingCalls

Too soon!

1 minute ago, billfromlaketravis said:

I think I get bronco’s point? I think Texas is concerned about revenue sharing. More scholarships, more mouths to feed. There’s also the Title IV implications. If they add 20 men’s scholarships, they have to add 20 women’s scholarships. That’s a big number, and would probably require them adding another women’s sport. Incredibly expensive.

Rod Babers made an extremely rare good point today. Guys that aren’t playing are dead money. Stashing developmental players sounds awesome, but it would be very costly. So costly I doubt any program approaches 105 scholarships. I doubt many schools approach 85 scholarships if there’s revenue sharing and a salary cap.

I have no idea why they passed this rule in the middle of the NIL experiment. Nobody was asking for it.

I'm not an expert on how it all works with revenue sharing. Not in the slightest.
Sounds like it's more complicated that I assumed.


My assumption is we could bring in a bunch of players who are essentially walk-ons and get no money, but they do get scholarships now.
And another ASSumption is there are a few large humans out there who aren't good enough (yet) to get money to match their size.
But, maybe they're smart enough to want a UT degree. So, they come here for exactly that... a degree and not much else.
But what if one or three of them knocks it out of the park in spring camp?
We've had walk-ons who have done similar. Sure, it's wishful thinking but... you never know.

It was an idea.

6 hours ago, Huckleberry said:

Is it too much to ask for our scouting department to find a couple of guys at lower levels like Larry Allen and Erik Williams? Only then will I, a surly horn, be satisfied with this portal haul.

Those are the two I think of, not to slight my memories of Rayfield Wright and Tom Rafferty at all!

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11 minutes ago, billfromlaketravis said:

I think I get bronco’s point? I think Texas is concerned about revenue sharing. More scholarships, more mouths to feed. There’s also the Title IV implications. If they add 20 men’s scholarships, they have to add 20 women’s scholarships. That’s a big number, and would probably require them adding another women’s sport. Incredibly expensive.

Rod Babers made an extremely rare good point today. Guys that aren’t playing are dead money. Stashing developmental players sounds awesome, but it would be very costly. So costly I doubt any program approaches 105 scholarships. I doubt many schools approach 85 scholarships if there’s revenue sharing and a salary cap.

I have no idea why they passed this rule in the middle of the NIL experiment. Nobody was asking for it.

Maybe they wanted to kill-off walk-ons and they postulated that making that rule would accomplish that.

9 minutes ago, ATXbronco said:

I'm not an expert on how it all works with revenue sharing. Not in the slightest.
Sounds like it's more complicated that I assumed.


My assumption is we could bring in a bunch of players who are essentially walk-ons and get no money, but they do get scholarships now.
And another ASSumption is there are a few large humans out there who aren't good enough (yet) to get money to match their size.
But, maybe they're smart enough to want a UT degree. So, they come here for exactly that... a degree and not much else.
But what if one or three of them knocks it out of the park in spring camp?
We've had walk-ons who have done similar. Sure, it's wishful thinking but... you never know.

It was an idea.

I agree. I think smart teams once this is all figured out will be recruiting 20 or 30 upperclassmen with like Angelo State experience.

Scholarship+perks of being a former Texas football player vs starting at Sul Ross? Surely some kids will take that deal and be good practice and emergency depth. Nebraska back in the day had massive rosters

3 minutes ago, cmontexas said:

I agree. I think smart teams once this is all figured out will be recruiting 20 or 30 upperclassmen with like Angelo State experience.

Scholarship+perks of being a former Texas football player vs starting at Sul Ross? Surely some kids will take that deal and be good practice and emergency depth. Nebraska back in the day had massive rosters

Most kids want to play. I don’t see a lot of upperclassmen with experience signing on to hold down the bench (whilst also not getting paid) - even at a place like Texas - when they could play and make money at their small school.

14 minutes ago, BachelorTrek said:

Maybe they wanted to kill-off walk-ons and they postulated that making that rule would accomplish that.

As my high school coach told me when I muttered “fuck this shit” after getting run over by a senior who outweighed me by 200 lbs, “Quit bitching, someone has to hold the tackling dummy”.

4 hours ago, billfromlaketravis said:

What’s left?

- Delano Townsend. I think we’re done at OL if we get him. We can probably overpay some because Robertson is coming back. I’d prefer we take Townsend and another IOL starter, but they asked Robertson to come back for a reason, and I’m sure Brooks was expensive.

Townsend isn't very good. Would be a downgrade from what we had this year at guard. Maybe we are at the point that scraping the barrel is necessary but even the most delusional of sunshine pumpers needs to understand that his joining the OL in a starting role is not a positive. Even if we do land him or some other LG we are still going to need a backup center as well I'd think (due to Cruz leaving). It is just Roberston and the incoming freshman unless someone else is going to change position.

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16 minutes ago, HateYouAndMyself said:

Townsend isn't very good. Would be a downgrade from what we had this year at guard. Maybe we are at the point that scraping the barrel is necessary but even the most delusional of sunshine pumpers needs to understand that his joining the OL in a starting role is not a positive. Even if we do land him or some other LG we are still going to need a backup center as well I'd think (due to Cruz leaving). It is just Roberston and the incoming freshman unless someone else is going to change position.

Yeah, there has to be somebody else we like better or are trying to entice. Right guys? Right?

14 minutes ago, Reese Bennett said:

Yeah, there has to be somebody else we like better or are trying to entice. Right guys? Right?

Adding Townsend would make sense if the plan is to also add a better quality guard and then have some combination of Townsend, Baker, Brooks, etc. filling out the other two spots (G/RT). I'm still optimistic about where we end up.

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3 hours ago, dcar00 said:

interesting I assumed Baker would want to stay at tackle as more money in that position in the NFL...

They aren't moving Baker from RT to G. He's projected as a possible first round pick if he continues his upward trajectory, and he could realistically leave after next season. The "they'll just move Baker to G and get another Tackle" is just stupid internet poster dipshittery. It's dumbass wishcasting for whatever reason. Why would they want to move a natural RT inside, a guy who started in all 13 games and mostly held his own and got better as a RS-FR? He's on mock drafts for 2026 first rd, even though I highly doubt he's leaving after his RS-SO season. It's much, much more difficult to find a natural RT thsn it is a LT. We have a natural RT, but the staff will just disregard that fact, and the empirical evidence of him getting better and better as the season went on. Lol wat? OK. It doesn't matter who here or $9.95ers that say it. It's simply not going to happen, even if their "sources" say otherwise. They're wrong.

What we need are actual interior linemen with experience, or they'll have to cross-train Brooks until Goosby is gone so he can move to LT for the 2027 season, and Cojoe/Chatman will battle it out at either LG or RG. We have to hope Cojoe is healthy enough to even play after tearing his ACL. If they get a tackle out of the portal, it's for depth only, not to start. Don't believe the stupid fan fiction.

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12 hours ago, Cajun said:

I normally try to stay away, but tomorrow's Finebaum call-in segment is most likely something that will be impossible to ignore.

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6 hours ago, closetojumping said:

Oh, shut the fuck up.

No one said Texas needed 4 OL. All of the $9.95ers also knew that Cruz was gone, Neto was probably gone and most likely Kibble too. Nothing was projected without accounting for those risks. So what in the fuck are you doing with this post?

No I wont because penciling in Robertson as a starter is stupid and he’s not good

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7 hours ago, Cairn Horn88 said:

So, are there some good OL out there that could opt for the portal this week? Are there OL out there currently holding out for more $$$, who may end up waiting too long, perhaps having to accept less, or possibly not ending up on a team at all?

There are a lot of good OL in college football who are eligible for the Portal. You'd have to follow every team closely to know which ones are Portal risks and I don't think anyone not getting paid to do that has the time to do that.

5 hours ago, Hiphopopotamos said:

Most kids want to play. I don’t see a lot of upperclassmen with experience signing on to hold down the bench (whilst also not getting paid) - even at a place like Texas - when they could play and make money at their small school.

This. The NFL will find you anywhere, but they’re going to need some film first.

1 hour ago, texifornia said:

You'd have to follow every team closely to know which ones are Portal risks and I don't think anyone not getting paid to do that has the time to do that.

Agents will tip you off.

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7 hours ago, ATXbronco said:

WTF. We have like 40 scholarships left to use. USE THEM.

Go grab all the biggest retard 2* O-line FBS & nicely rated FCS guys you can find and see if any of them break out during spring training.
This is our concern, dude. So, make it the thing we are unconcerned about.

If we’re just looking for a bunch of fat retards to round out the roster, have immamac send over the site user list.

15 hours ago, Cajun said:

I normally try to stay away, but tomorrow's Finebaum call-in segment is most likely something that will be impossible to ignore.

Yes! And if you miss anything, that show is all podcasted so you can catchup or Lulz all over again..

7 hours ago, ATXbronco said:

You're not paying attention.
We're putting all of our money into 50-70 scholarship kids.
With the new SEC rules, we can do 100+ scholarships(?).

That means you have 30+ freebies who will take up none, or hardly any of the "money share".

6 hours ago, billfromlaketravis said:

I think I get bronco’s point? I think Texas is concerned about revenue sharing. More scholarships, more mouths to feed. There’s also the Title IV implications. If they add 20 men’s scholarships, they have to add 20 women’s scholarships. That’s a big number, and would probably require them adding another women’s sport. Incredibly expensive.

Rod Babers made an extremely rare good point today. Guys that aren’t playing are dead money. Stashing developmental players sounds awesome, but it would be very costly. So costly I doubt any program approaches 105 scholarships. I doubt many schools approach 85 scholarships if there’s revenue sharing and a salary cap.

I have no idea why they passed this rule in the middle of the NIL experiment. Nobody was asking for it.

The OTF guys were talking like schools may be closer to carrying 65 scholarships as the game adapts to these new market realities.

7 hours ago, Sawbonz said:

I’ll settle for a Phil Pozderac and Brian Baldinger

Why? Tom Landry's ghost thinks we are fine at QB.

4 minutes ago, Duane Moore said:

The OTF guys were talking like schools may be closer to carrying 65 scholarships as the game adapts to these new market realities.

Correct. I would say if a player isn’t on the travel squad, pretty decent chance the school pulls their NIL package after the season and moves on.

22 minutes ago, Duane Moore said:

The OTF guys were talking like schools may be closer to carrying 65 scholarships as the game adapts to these new market realities.

I’ll believe that when I see it across the country. If you’re making a 1 year run it seems like a smart move but I don’t believe it’s a sustainable route due to injuries, portal price tags to reload it year over year, bust potential of your HS recruits in said method.

I seriously doubt school are gonna leave 40 potential roster spots just open, or that nobody is going to take the scholarship. Instead of the major distinction being between scholarship players and walkons, the new schism will be scholarship players on NIL deals and non NIL scholarship players. Maybe it will just be the best 20 walkons, but I have to think there are FCS guys that know they are going pro in something other than football that would take a scholarship to the University of Texas.

27 minutes ago, Duane Moore said:

The OTF guys were talking like schools may be closer to carrying 65 scholarships as the game adapts to these new market realities.

I was an old screaming at the clouds but this was a consequence of paying the players

2 hours ago, texifornia said:

You'd have to follow every team closely to know which ones are Portal risks and I don't think anyone not getting paid to do that has the time to do that.

Surly crabbers don't need any of that shit. They just know.

105 is the hard cap for the roster not just scholarships. The back fill will be ~20 redshirts and ~20 PWO / practice squad.

If you count Zina and Black as returning, Texas is at 83 scholarship players at this moment.

It sounds like a good idea to stash a bunch of FCS/off the radar guys at the bottom of the roster, but in this new world those guys are now NIL priorities for G6/lower tier P4 schools. A guy can go from Angelo State to UNT or Tulsa, make 75k and play right away or go to Texas and be the 90th scholarship player.

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2 hours ago, BurntOrange&White said:

No I wont because penciling in Robertson as a starter is stupid and he’s not good

I remember when you decided it was your duty to repeatedly say this same type of shit heading into Jake Majors’ senior season at C during that offseason. It was powerful stuff. The groundswell of support for your bravery echoed through the structural bones at Bellmont, Flood heard your demands and everything changed.

Wait. No, no that’s not right. Oh yes, now it’s coming to me - nothing you bawled about mattered, Majors started all season and wound up joining an NFL organization.

Keep tilting at those windmills though. They’ll fall down eventually. Make sure you leave no room for the possibility of player improvement.

29 minutes ago, billfromlaketravis said:

Correct. I would say if a player isn’t on the travel squad, pretty decent chance the school pulls their NIL package after the season and moves on.

10 minutes ago, cmontexas said:

I seriously doubt school are gonna leave 40 potential roster spots just open, or that nobody is going to take the scholarship. Instead of the major distinction being between scholarship players and walkons, the new schism will be scholarship players on NIL deals and non NIL scholarship players. Maybe it will just be the best 20 walkons, but I have to think there are FCS guys that know they are going pro in something other than football that would take a scholarship to the University of Texas.

The Texas approach is to lock up the key roles now. Once that work is finished, we may see a flurry of additions that don’t cost anything more than scholarships. If some of those guys play their way into snaps, they’ll get some upside in future rev share. This is what they started doing in recruiting in the 2026 cycle and it sounds like they’re amplifying that in 2027.

There is only so much time, employee headcount and money. No org can do everything. It’s great to plan, but also be flexible because who does or does not go into the portal becomes a real time issue. I know they fucked up the OL situation, but I’m interested in seeing if they can course correct with who is actually out there now. Everything else has gone according to plan A, or then plan B, or then plan C. OL? They flunked plan A and now we cross our fingers.

16 hours ago, RGBIII said:

Remaining we need 2-3 OL, MLB, Edge, DB +filler vet depth and then see you in August. I know of 2 massive moonshots but they aren’t worth speculating on currently as it would be an active detriment if the names get out, excited to see how some combo of OB, Chip Brown and/or Brandon Harris fucks those up

Ill be more than happy to do my part for an 8 ball and some help moving a couple of dead cookers.

8 hours ago, ATXbronco said:

WTF. We have like 40 scholarships left to use. USE THEM.

Go grab all the biggest retard 2* O-line FBS & nicely rated FCS guys you can find and see if any of them break out during spring training.
This is our concern, dude. So, make it the thing we are unconcerned about.

I get your point and don’t think it’s entirely off base, but we can’t be that indiscriminate. You recruit your own problems, and we have to do the due diligence to confirm that a player won’t be a net negative. For every diamond in the rough, there’s five pieces of shit just dying to give your locker room cancer or worse.

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19 hours ago, Js1 said:

Tech who scored 0 points in the CFP and brings in overrated Soresby

Aggy who scored 3 points in the CFP and brings back overrated Reed

Bama with a new QB

Or Texas and Arch mfn Manning

Such an easy call

38 minutes ago, FCB said:

Ill be more than happy to do my part for an 8 ball and some help moving a couple of dead cookers.

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13 minutes ago, texasdago said:

Its been several hours since our most recent portal commitment...

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after yeseterday we are all going through withdrawls

4 minutes ago, ClubWhatever said:

Is Js1 Landon Holifield?

Who tf is that

Man, X is just a bunch of salty bitches that Texas is spending money that only Texas can spend. I love it. aggy, ou, Bama, and Georgia fans all pissed off. They didn't have any problems cheating, and would crow on and on about it.

This was kind of a last page discussion, but I've previously heard from a couple NFL-types that transferring to avoid competition or find a "better fit" is being viewed as a red flag.

So it's actually not clear at all that getting more snaps at Mizzou this year is preferable to rotating and waiting another year at Texas when it comes to your NFL draft profile.

3 minutes ago, HtownHorn said:

Man, X is just a bunch of salty bitches that Texas is spending money that only Texas can spend. I love it. aggy, ou, Bama, and Georgia fans all pissed off. They didn't have any problems cheating, and would crow on and on about it.

Tech and Aggy being sour is the most hilarious part about all of this , like i get bama and ou are poor, but aggy is running around tossing out big money and still not getting who they want

24 minutes ago, satyanash said:

It's quite literally that simple...maybe it was a bit more money too, but it wasn't some ridiculous "Overpay by double" and Tech didn't get "over on us" by running up the bidding war.

Simply Arch is the best prospect to play with. It's a bigger program viewed by more eyballs and this offense does have a track record of producing...even if "down" years.

1 minute ago, BigHornedLurker said:

Tech and Aggy being sour is the most hilarious part about all of this , like i get bama and ou are poor, but aggy is running around tossing out big money and still not getting who they want

Agreed

Tech blew up the market last year for a CFP appearance where they scored 0 points

aggy bought one of the top classes ever and acted like it was because they all wanted to be aggy so bad, and then they all left over the course of the next few seasons.

But bad Texas beat both for Coleman, so we are the enemy, yet again. (That's how you know Texas is back)

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