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Just like the cowards running the Uvalde area police response, these Kerr county leaders need to eat a few bullets.  They are content with their own incompetence and cowardice.

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14 hours ago, freyguy said:

Just like the cowards running the Uvalde area police response, these Kerr county leaders need to eat a few bullets.  They are content with their own incompetence and cowardice.

...as are most Texans, apparently. 

 

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8 hours ago, Hagbard Celine said:

taken 10 july - obviously the belongings of campers have been removed from those buildings and laid out as seen

is this the bubble inn?

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No.  That is Bug House.  Mostly 12 years in that cabin and none of them died.  Bubble Inn and Twins I and II are several cabins away from there back towards the rec and mess halls.

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55 minutes ago, SquishMitten said:

Spent the day with a crew in Hunt yesterday. I’ve seen hundreds of pictures, videos, and read of the personal accounts, but nothing can really prepare you for it. Pictures and videos don’t do it justice. Surprisingly, I only teared up a few times. It’s just so overwhelming that you almost instantly go numb. The destruction is beyond words, and the amount of work still left to do is incalculable. Most humbling thing I’ve ever done. Roughly a hundred combined man hours amongst us, and at the end of the day, you wouldn’t even know we had been there. 
 

It is pretty amazing to see so many people from different walks of life all over the place just doing what they can. You’ve got guys running heavy equipment, folks with shovels, rakes, chainsaws, groups of women/children/olds sifting through debris recovering personal belongings, came across several groups of foreigners that hardly spoke English (obviously a lot of Mexicans, but I heard some Germans and then another group speaking a language I was unfamiliar with but sounded Slavic), groups running long rows of grills cooking up free food for volunteers…all just doing whatever they can. If you have the desire to help, there’s plenty to do. But no rush, they’re going to be at it for a very very long time. Wasn’t something I really thought about, but with the destruction basically just running in a long line its, at the same time, easier and harder to do. On the one hand, you can just close your eyes and point at a spot on a map, go there, and you’ll have the whole area to yourself. On the other hand, it’s hard to stage and move equipment up and down a riverbank. 
 

Anyway, I’m mostly still numb from the whole thing but felt the need to put something in writing. Figured this was as good a place as any. 

 

Yeah, the power of that water and the vast level of destruction can't be appreciated until you see it yourself. It truly is incredible. 

Good on you for volunteering. The work wears you out physically and emotionally with the latter being the worst - just something you don't quite expect. Sounds like you didn't make it to the memorial on Water Street. That breaks one as much as anything especially seeing those hardened search and rescue workers openly weeping. As one of them said to me: "This humanizes our entire process."

You may not feel like you made a dent but it's true that all of the contributions add up. It's also true that your experience and the things you saw aren't going anywhere - going to be seared in your mind for a long time to come. 

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I'd like to go out there one of these weekends.  I fee like I'm "too late" but at the same time I know the work will be there for a very long time.  What's the best way to do this?

Its been almost 8 years since Harvey... when I go back to my old hood I see a few houses/lots that still haven't recovered so I know people will need help for a long time.

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49 minutes ago, texasdago said:

I'd like to go out there one of these weekends.  I fee like I'm "too late" but at the same time I know the work will be there for a very long time.  What's the best way to do this?

Its been almost 8 years since Harvey... when I go back to my old hood I see a few houses/lots that still haven't recovered so I know people will need help for a long time.

There is no too late on these. They will need help for a long time. Shit, replanting trees. 

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I have no problem with you disagreeing with me.  But, I have seen the unimaginable destruction in this area.  Boulders and rock the size of full size trucks, cypress and pecan trees that were 30' around and 30-40' tall reduced to splinters.  All of this debris was rolling in the river - which was an estimated 35-40' high.                                                                                                                                         Again, look at the map of Camp Mystic.  They Bubble cabin was on an island between the river and Cypress creek. The river rose so fast, even if the Bubble cabin kids/counselors had escaped from the cabin, Hwy 39 was also under a shit ton of water and debris.  How in the hell would they have left the area?  One side is a wall of limestone and the other side was Hwy 39, which was under water.  I would encourage you to visit once things have settled down and you will see for yourself what happened here.                                                 Agree with you that Camp Mystic should have had some sort of evacuation plan, if they didn't have one.  Our neighborhood lost one of the campers (Rene S.) and one of our friends lost their grandson.  Improvements in evacuation/alarms/warnings must be installed for the future. As a resident of Kerr County, the whole thing is just sad and heartbreaking.  Peace and Hook 'em.

They didn’t have to immediately leave the area to survive. It’s my understanding that Mystic was completely unreachable except by boat or helicopter for most of July 4th. They just needed to escape to higher ground until they could be rescued by swift-water rescuers, etc. Just a little more lead time and the youngest girls could’ve most likely gotten above the wall of water that killed them. Weren’t there 700+ campers at Mystic? All but 27 survived. None of them got off the property — or very far — until they were rescued.
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A nice, well-stated update message from Mo-Ranch:

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Greetings,

Life in the Texas Hill Country has changed forever. We all have heavy hearts and continue to lift up our friends and neighbors in the local Kerr County community and across the state of Texas.

Your outpouring of support and generosity of gifts has helped us in our time of need, and the prayers you've sent for our entire region have given us all strength. It is a reminder of the incredible community of Mo supporters who have helped shape the history and the future of this thin space. Words cannot adequately express how grateful I am both professionally and personally.

For over 75 years, Mo Ranch has "set the table" for guests to come and experience Christian hospitality and faith formation. Throughout the decades, Mo-Ranch has been able to serve people through many different seasons of their personal life journey. That continues to ring true today. It is an honor to serve our guests and extend hospitality to them, regardless of what season of life they are in.

As we have reopened our doors to guests, you have reminded me how special this place is to so many. Over the last few weeks, we have seen familiar faces from the Mo Family and welcomed many through these gates for the first time. We have been blessed to offer housing to volunteers, first responders, search and rescue workers, and others affected by the flood. Most of these new friends had never been to Mo-Ranch before and were grateful to have a place of respite.

Like many of you, they now have stories of how Mo-Ranch has created a space for healing, sanctuary and restoration of faith. The stories they've shared have moved me deeply. Over the coming months, we hope to share some of these stories with you as we continue to live out our mission for the world to see.

We look forward to setting the table for each of you again and hope that you will continue to pray for our region as we all work together to rebuild, recover and move forward.

Gratefully

Tim Huchton,

Mo-Ranch President and CEO

 

Tim is good people, and the crew they have working at Mo these days are top-notch.

Posted
13 hours ago, C-Man said:


They didn’t have to immediately leave the area to survive. It’s my understanding that Mystic was completely unreachable except by boat or helicopter for most of July 4th. They just needed to escape to higher ground until they could be rescued by swift-water rescuers, etc. Just a little more lead time and the youngest girls could’ve most likely gotten above the wall of water that killed them. Weren’t there 700+ campers at Mystic? All but 27 survived. None of them got off the property — or very far — until they were rescued.

We are not that far away on agreeing.  I am surprised that anyone survived at the camp.  I think that Mr. Eastland (RIP) might have waited too long to warn the campers in that one cabin, but we all have been guilty of ignoring tornado watches/warnings and flood watches/warnings.  If you look at Camp La Junta, that camp was utterly destroyed, worse than the damage at Camp Mystic, yet no one died at La Junta to my knowledge.  I guess because they had more warning and were further downstream?  I have lots of questions.

Again, I would invite you to come and see for yourself, as Squish Mitten has done - you really can't describe the destruction here.  Peace C-Man.

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31 minutes ago, West Kerr Horn said:

We are not that far away on agreeing.  I am surprised that anyone survived at the camp.  I think that Mr. Eastland (RIP) might have waited too long to warn the campers in that one cabin, but we all have been guilty of ignoring tornado watches/warnings and flood watches/warnings.  If you look at Camp La Junta, that camp was utterly destroyed, worse than the damage at Camp Mystic, yet no one died at La Junta to my knowledge.  I guess because they had more warning and were further downstream?  I have lots of questions.

Again, I would invite you to come and see for yourself, as Squish Mitten has done - you really can't describe the destruction here.  Peace C-Man.

I suggest anyone who can go down go. See it. Some areas it looks like a war zone after an A-10 raid. I am working on organizing a few friends to head back in. @West Kerr Horn I will link up with you before so you can guide us. Trying to get my friends organized is like herding cats. 

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45 minutes ago, West Kerr Horn said:

We are not that far away on agreeing.  I am surprised that anyone survived at the camp.  I think that Mr. Eastland (RIP) might have waited too long to warn the campers in that one cabin, but we all have been guilty of ignoring tornado watches/warnings and flood watches/warnings.  If you look at Camp La Junta, that camp was utterly destroyed, worse than the damage at Camp Mystic, yet no one died at La Junta to my knowledge.  I guess because they had more warning and were further downstream?  I have lots of questions.

Again, I would invite you to come and see for yourself, as Squish Mitten has done - you really can't describe the destruction here.  Peace C-Man.

I think we are not far away for sure. All I’m saying is that I think with more advance warning — we can quibble on how much time would’ve been necessary for them all to get to high-enough ground on the Mystic property — most if not all of those girls (and Dick Eastland) would be alive today. My point is that they were not awakened with a wall of water that washed them all downriver (I don’t think). One cabin was told to stay put. At some point, the counselors made the decision to help the girls out one of the windows. I believe that cabin’s girls (and counselors) all survived.

I guess I’m just saying I disagree with your assertion that those 27 girls who died at Mystic were goners the minute they closed their eyes to go to sleep the night of July 3rd. There was still time to save them and that’s what is so painful.

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