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With all the political stuff futures have been a mess with 4 limit lower moves in 7 sessions in feeders includes expanded limit lower today to put us about 10% lower in that time frame. Meanwhile boxed beef is up about 3%

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As someone who has family in the beef/ranching industry but lives in a city its pretty simple. The high plains (where alot of cattle are raised and fed at feedlots) went through a really bad drought for a couple of years. Ranchers didn't have enough grass/feed to keep their cattle fed through the winter so they sold alot of them off because they couldn't feed them

Decreased supply sent prices through the roof and now all the ranchers are selling their cows at high prices now instead of holding them back to rebuild their herds because prices are so high. If this was chicken or hogs it could correct itself pretty quickly due to gestation cycles but cows give birth once a year, do you hold your heifers back thinking prices will go even higher than now or sell them at the highest price you have ever seen? 

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Side story - My dad grew up on a farm on the high plains before moving to the big city after college. We now have part of that farm and he is retired, he spends a lot of time out there and decided to buy 3 feeders at the local sale barn to put in one of our pens with about 40 acres of grass and water. The TLDR is 2 got sick, he called the vet out and got them shots, one died and the other 2 escaped when he went back to his big city home and he had to drive back to collect them. 

The whole experiment lasted less than a month before he took them back to the sale barn and sold them. 

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8 hours ago, Royalfan5 said:

With all the political stuff futures have been a mess with 4 limit lower moves in 7 sessions in feeders includes expanded limit lower today to put us about 10% lower in that time frame. Meanwhile boxed beef is up about 3%

My rain insurance guy is meeting with me Thursday. I still have my calves. Of course I held onto them after the peak. I will probably listen a little closer to his LRP pitch this time. 

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3 hours ago, Kennythetiger said:

My rain insurance guy is meeting with me Thursday. I still have my calves. Of course I held onto them after the peak. I will probably listen a little closer to his LRP pitch this time. 

Still historically high at least. Next falls calves I would worry about though. Will have to see what they say about reopening the border this week. 

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1 minute ago, Colonel Sanders said:

Can't we just raise cows in our backyards like Brooke Rollins suggested we do with chickens?  Sorry if this has already been proposed.l, but it seems pretty simple.

Take your 11 secret spices and get the hell out of here you chicken selling sonofabitch!!!!!

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4 minutes ago, gernblansten said:

Take your 11 secret spices and get the hell out of here you chicken selling sonofabitch!!!!!

How Dare You Greta GIF

 

sign me up for

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although its widely known he puts addictive chemicals in it...

 

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14 minutes ago, Colonel Sanders said:

Can't we just raise cows in our backyards like Brooke Rollins suggested we do with chickens?  Sorry if this has already been proposed.l, but it seems pretty simple.

We talking a suburban 1/4 acre plot in a subdivision with 100 houses with a convenience store at the neighborhood entrance? Or we talking a house on 2 acres off a recently semi-developed FM road?

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10 minutes ago, crash_davis said:

We talking a suburban 1/4 acre plot in a subdivision with 100 houses with a convenience store at the neighborhood entrance? Or we talking a house on 2 acres off a recently semi-developed FM road?

Sorry, I was just being a smartass. 

I'm kind of surprised thouhh that pork and chicken haven't gone up in price as people substitute off of beef.  Maybe that's coming next.

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6 minutes ago, Colonel Sanders said:

Sorry, I was just being a smartass. 

I'm kind of surprised thouhh that pork and chicken haven't gone up in price as people substitute off of beef.  Maybe that's coming next.

I rarely eat beef anymore. Shit's way too expensive. Pork and chicken prices have increased a bit but they would be the last thing I would complain about. Bread, milk, sodas, chips, just common shit have had way bigger % of price increases.

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2 hours ago, Colonel Sanders said:

Sorry, I was just being a smartass. 

I'm kind of surprised thouhh that pork and chicken haven't gone up in price as people substitute off of beef.  Maybe that's coming next.

We are into the seasonal peak of pork production right now. (It's why this is usually McRib time of year) and bird flu isn't rolling for the season yet. Also biology allows you to ramp production so much faster, and we have some slack packing capacity in both. 

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3 hours ago, Royalfan5 said:

Still historically high at least. Next falls calves I would worry about though. Will have to see what they say about reopening the border this week. 

Two years ago I went from a March 1 calving date to April 15. Absolutely love it, but I have pretty small calves in the fall. I pre-conditioned them this weekend and will wean in three weeks. I usually feed them through the winter and sell the steers in February. Heifers are pelvic-measured and then retained or sold as replacements later in the spring. The flunkees are sold as market calves. 

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18 hours ago, Kennythetiger said:

Two years ago I went from a March 1 calving date to April 15. Absolutely love it, but I have pretty small calves in the fall. I pre-conditioned them this weekend and will wean in three weeks. I usually feed them through the winter and sell the steers in February. Heifers are pelvic-measured and then retained or sold as replacements later in the spring. The flunkees are sold as market calves. 

I think as an industry everyone calves 4 to 8 weeks later than they did 10-15 years ago. Don't have guys bitch near as much about health problems as they used to either. Feel like it's connected 

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21 hours ago, Incredulity said:

this thread has become a conspiracy to make me fat....

 

first KFC, now McRib...   getting hungry over here.

Stanning for KFC proves how much of a dumbass you really are.

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4 minutes ago, 'stache said:

I heard the cattle ranchers don't know anything about their own business so everyone calm down lol.

"Nobody knows more about cattle ranching than ___________."   Yeah, we all know who goes in the blank.

Just now, Fudge Nuggets said:

Stanning for KFC proves how much of a dumbass you really are.

In fairness, sometimes some old school original recipe just hits.  It's not my favorite fried yardbird, but I ain't turning it down.  And once in a blue moon, I really want some.

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2 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

"Nobody knows more about cattle ranching than ___________."   Yeah, we all know who goes in the blank.

In fairness, sometimes some old school original recipe just hits.  It's not my favorite fried yardbird, but I ain't turning it down.  And once in a blue moon, I really want some.

KFC in Thailand is bad ass - it's basically Popeye's at half the price.  I've had KFC once in the last six years back here and it was fucking awful.  Never again.

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6 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

KFC in Thailand is bad ass - it's basically Popeye's at half the price.  I've had KFC once in the last six years back here and it was fucking awful.  Never again.

Depends on the store.

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23 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

Stanning for KFC proves how much of a dumbass you really are.

It's incredible how badly they've gone downhill and fucked up something as simple as fried chicken, ruining their "brand" and having to close locations. We just lost our local one a few months ago, not that I'll miss it since I haven't had KFC for several years, but still. That place used to be the gold standard for basic fast food chicken, and now they're probably the worst of the bunch.

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9 minutes ago, bolverk said:

It's incredible how badly they've gone downhill and fucked up something as simple as fried chicken, ruining their "brand" and having to close locations. We just lost our local one a few months ago, not that I'll miss it since I haven't had KFC for several years, but still. That place used to be the gold standard for basic fast food chicken, and now they're probably the worst of the bunch.

The chicken is bland and mushy as hell, so much so that I question if it even is chicken or some lab grown shit. The crust is also equally tasteless but what's worst is that it always gooey wet.

I really surprised that someone in corporate hasn't asked what the fuck happened and why can't they hire some grandma from Georgia to come up with better ingredients and cooking process?

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On 9/25/2025 at 8:51 PM, Pato del Muerto said:

Raise yaks and you can sell the hair until you are ready to sell the meat.

there was a yak ranch near us in WY that would sell yak cuts, yak jerky, and also things like yak hair mittens at the market. 

Alright I've bought the Yaks for my land in Zapata County. When does the money train start? 

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Just now, 'stache said:

We need Jollibee in the South.

It's solid -- one of the boy's go-tos in the UK (along with Popeyes, believe it or not).  And my personal confession: I've never had Bojangles, and I hear good things?

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1 hour ago, bolverk said:

It's incredible how badly they've gone downhill and fucked up something as simple as fried chicken, ruining their "brand" and having to close locations. We just lost our local one a few months ago, not that I'll miss it since I haven't had KFC for several years, but still. That place used to be the gold standard for basic fast food chicken, and now they're probably the worst of the bunch.

Yep.  Tons of alternative and better options isn't helping either.  Popeyes slams hard.  Chick Filet is the gold standard.  Then you have all the tender places like Canes/Laynes/Chicken Express.  Now that Nashville 'Hot' chicken is matriculating in, it's even worse.  

Every now and then I used to grab KFC snackers, but they're meh as well unless it's close and there are no other options.  The fact that they share a store (many of them) with a Taco Bell is the holy grail of "why did I fucking order that" post-order syndrome

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1 minute ago, bolverk said:

I think I read that one just opened up in San Antonio a few months ago.

 

Just now, Captainant said:

There's one off Westheimer, pretty dang good chicken

Honestly didn't know they had moved into Texas. Only one I've been to was in D.C. I'll check the one out in Dallas next time I can. The chicken is elite. The hotdog pasta, not so much, but it apparently has a cult fanbase.

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30 minutes ago, 'stache said:

We need Jollibee in the South.

3 locations in Houston, one in SA, one in DFW. 

@Brisketexan  Bojangles is chicken strips only so not really the same conversation 

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9 minutes ago, BabaYaga said:

Yep.  Tons of alternative and better options isn't helping either.  Popeyes slams hard.  Then you have all the tender places like Canes/Laynes/Chicken Express.  Now that Nashville 'Hot' chicken is matriculating in, it's even worse.  

Every now and then I used to grab KFC snackers, but they're meh as well unless it's close and there are no other options.  The fact that they share a store (many of them) with a Taco Bell is the holy grail of "why did I fucking order that" post-order syndrome

All true. Our KFC was a stand-alone. The Taco Hell shares a building with Long John Silver’s. As for the local fast-food chicken wars in this town, there's Chicken Express, Chick-fil-A, Golden Chick, Popeye's, and a local place called Gill's that’s been here forever. For the fried stuff, I usually go to the last one, which used to be a small regional chain, but I think it's the only one left. The Popeyes is out on the interstate on the other side of town, embedded in a truck stop with IHOP, so I tend not to get out there very often. 

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If I'm getting fried chicken at a gas station it ain't gonna be a chain, it's gonna be some hole in the wall in the deep south with people lined up for the chicken. 

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2 minutes ago, BabaYaga said:

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I'm more of a Denny's guy, which also happens to be a little closer. Plus, there's the late-night nostalgia of going there with buddies back during our high school days.

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1 minute ago, bolverk said:

I'm more of a Denny's guy, which also happens to be a little closer. Plus, there's the late-night nostalgia of going there with buddies back during our high school days.

Yep.  There's a Denny off I-20 in Cisco at a decent sized gas station.  We always hit it on the way back from the Coleman area, up from Cross Plains, and it's fantastic....esp when it's cold, you've been hunting and/or working.  

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27 minutes ago, bolverk said:

I'm more of a Denny's guy, which also happens to be a little closer

A pox upon Denny’s and it’s undrinkable hot, light brown water masquerading as coffee.

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49 minutes ago, elfenix said:

3 locations in Houston, one in SA, one in DFW. 

@Brisketexan  Bojangles is chicken strips only so not really the same conversation 

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37 minutes ago, 'stache said:

If I'm getting fried chicken at a gas station it ain't gonna be a chain, it's gonna be some hole in the wall in the deep south with people lined up for the chicken. 

And miss out on the glory of Krispy Krunchy chicken, one of the better chains around (that's ONLY found in gas stations)?

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23 hours ago, Kennythetiger said:

Two years ago I went from a March 1 calving date to April 15. Absolutely love it, but I have pretty small calves in the fall. I pre-conditioned them this weekend and will wean in three weeks. I usually feed them through the winter and sell the steers in February. Heifers are pelvic-measured and then retained or sold as replacements later in the spring. The flunkees are sold as market calves. 

 

5 hours ago, Royalfan5 said:

I think as an industry everyone calves 4 to 8 weeks later than they did 10-15 years ago. Don't have guys bitch near as much about health problems as they used to either. Feel like it's connected 

Can elaborate on this calving date choice?  Curious to know more about yalls experience. @Kennythetiger can you learn me about the pelvic measuring. I assume the flunkies are heifers with smaller pelvic areas which correlates to more frequent birthing issues?  How hard is it to accurately measure? Does it take a trained  veterinarian or something youve learned to do? I’ll hang up and listen. 

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31 minutes ago, gsoda3 said:

CFA's chicken is not good.  We only go because it's so much faster than everywhere else.

Like all FF, you want consistency (whether you like it or not) and expediency.  They have both in spades.

*you hear that Whataburger.  You slow, inconsistent turds.....

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35 minutes ago, gsoda3 said:

CFA's chicken is not good.  We only go because it's so much faster than everywhere else.

They serve more people faster, but I think I still spend more time there to get bad chicken than I do as the only car in the Popeye's DT. 

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On 9/26/2025 at 8:43 AM, BabaYaga said:

To get this thread back on track - there are more and more "regenerative" farms popping up.  Farms like White Oak Pastures.  6th generation farming in GA.  Will Harris (owner) was on the JRE and really broke down his system, how it is magnitudes better than factory farming AND mono-crop agriculture.

Vertically integrated, almost zero-waste models that is all on-site and scalable

  • multi-species rotational grazing
  • holistic mgmt
  • no chemicals
  • soil building/composting
  • full utilization
  • on-site slaughter
  • soil sequesters more carbon that the livestock emit over their lifetimes
  • many environmental awards for their work.

 

 

Sounds woke

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Just now, SimonBolivar said:

They serve more people faster, but I think I still spend more time there to get bad chicken than I do as the only car in the Popeye's DT. 

Not sure I trust Popeyes DT to get my order 30% accurate. Order at the counter and point out which pieces I want for the 3 pc

and bitch about no dirty rice

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