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14 hours ago, Revolution512 said:

Venables will come after us all fucking game. Sad thing is he doesn’t need to. He can get home and control the line if scrimmage with a base front.

Venables is a dumb motherfucker but he knows this much at least.

 

If his game plan is anything other than have his front four tea bag our oline all game and let the back seven sit back and pick off arch’s ducks then he’s even dumber than I thought.

 

Normally I’m not too worried when it looks like we have no chance against these cocksuckers because they’re generally not afraid to gag it up. But this year is going to be awful. I’d be surprised if we score a single TD. I’m guessing 27-6, but a fucking shut out is not at all out of the question.

 

Can the NIL people get a refund?

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30 minutes ago, tbone_ said:

Venables is a dumb motherfucker but he knows this much at least.

 

If his game plan is anything other than have his front four tea bag our oline all game and let the back seven sit back and pick off arch’s ducks then he’s even dumber than I thought.

 

Normally I’m not too worried when it looks like we have no chance against these cocksuckers because they’re generally not afraid to gag it up. But this year is going to be awful. I’d be surprised if we score a single TD. I’m guessing 27-6, but a fucking shut out is not at all out of the question.

 

Can the NIL people get a refund?

OU scored 44 on a team worse than SHSU.  That’s with a defensive TD.  I would be shocked if either team got over 24 even with a defensive TD.  
Can’t rush Mateer back.  If they lose 1-2 without him and only one with him they’re 50/50 for the playoffs with that schedule.  Arch also doesn’t seem to make that many dumb throws.  The O line seems a bigger issue than Arch.  

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17 hours ago, Farmer Vincent said:

I have a lot of OU fans in my family. They don't like to admit it, but Texas is all the Sooners think about. It's an obsession and they will play their best game of the season on Saturday. The line on this game is inexplicable. I understand the media likes to build Texas up so they can fall on their face and be humiliated, I don't understand why Vegas would do it. The Sooners have the #1 run defense in college football. Which of our runningbacks is going to get yards against this team? When the run game stalls, what are we going to do, throw desperate 50 yard bombs? Their backup QB is better than our starter. Our backup QB might be better than our starter. Texas is about to be humiliated on the national stage one more time.

This is not to dismiss the ineptitude of our offense at all.  But OU has played shit  year to date.     If there is a team that MIGHT be worse on offense it is Auburn and OU had to hold on for dear life to win that game and somehow the aggy defense held the same Auburn team to less points and every aggys I read on different platforms are still not solid on their D.          Oh but they beat Michigan.   There is nothing impressive in Michigan’s work to date to suggest they are back to their top tier status in the Big 10 other than they beat some low hanging fruit since they played OU and they’ve upped their poll rankings because of this.  

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We desperately need 1) fewer penalties, 2) Arch throwing the ball on time, and 3) more 3rd down conversions. I know better than to expect our horrendous O-line to improve before the end of the season (thanks to the Strong and Herman years) but cleaning up the smaller things would go a long way towards giving ourselves a chance to win this week.

Reminder; it's been 16 years since we've defeated blOU in back-to-back seasons. If we lose this Saturday, blOU is just 12 games away from evening up the all-time head-to-head in the rivalry (down from 20 games away at the start of the century). 

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5 minutes ago, Nueces River Rat said:

This is not to dismiss the ineptitude of our offense at all.  But OU has played shit  year to date.     If there is a team that MIGHT be worse on offense it is Auburn and OU had to hold on for dear life to win that game and somehow the aggy defense held the same Auburn team to less points and every aggys I read on different platforms are still not solid on their D.          Oh but they beat Michigan.   There is nothing impressive in Michigan’s work to date to suggest they are back to their top tier status in the Big 10 other than they beat some low hanging fruit since they played OU and they’ve upped their poll rankings because of this.  

aggy D is pretty good.  Their last 2 games teams are 1 for 27 or something on third.  That’s legit against air.  

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3 hours ago, ChiTownDoc said:

No way Hawkins is better.  He can run maybe as well as Arch and throws like Davis Beville. 
 

UT wins a close ugly ass game imo.  

This would be really twisted if I took that bet!🤣

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In the opener the Buckeyes ran quick short routes to get Sayin a few receptions, let him get in a rhythm and grind out some drives. Does Sark have any quick routes to get the ball out of Mannings hands? Maybe he calls them but Arch won't throw the ball?  I would love to play a team like Texas, that has their QB standing in the pocket indefinitly, starring down the field, waiting to be sacked. If Sark does that on Saturday the loss is on him.

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Gameday Timeline
7:00 a.m. - Parking lots open
7:00 a.m. - State Fair of Texas fairgrounds open
8:00 a.m. - Midway, Tower Building, and outdoor concessions open*
11:30 a.m. - Cotton Bowl Stadium gates open
11:30 a.m. - Ticket resolution locations open between Gates A & B and outside Gate J
12:15 p.m. - Team bus arrival – Cheer on the Longhorns as they arrive on Coliseum Drive.
2:30 p.m. - Kickoff 
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2 hours ago, Tortoise said:

In the opener the Buckeyes ran quick short routes to get Sayin a few receptions, let him get in a rhythm and grind out some drives. Does Sark have any quick routes to get the ball out of Mannings hands? Maybe he calls them but Arch won't throw the ball?  I would love to play a team like Texas, that has their QB standing in the pocket indefinitly, starring down the field, waiting to be sacked. If Sark does that on Saturday the loss is on him.

I agree with the sentiment that we need more of these, but Arch hasn’t been very good at them. Against UF the throwback screen to Clark was low, the inside screen to Endries was late and got him lit up for one yard, the TD throw to Wisner was late, and he nearly threw a horrific INT on an RPO. He had a couple other RPOs that were completed, but one was still a bit off target. Against OSU he had the miss to Wingo on the final 3rd and 5 among others. Another game he had the turndown to Livingstone on the rollout that would become an INT in the end zone. 

Still think we need these to stretch defenses horizontally and get reps for improvement, but I get why it’s not just an easy fix for Sark, especially since this was the plan for the entire offseason. 

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Fuck it, we're going to win. This game has a 2015 vibe to it where OU is undefeated in the top 10 and we're unranked. We'll win. Hard to believe according to Vegas that we're still a -3.5 point favorite with a 61% chance to win. 

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36 minutes ago, GhostofDanJones said:

Fuck it, we're going to win. This game has a 2015 vibe to it where OU is undefeated in the top 10 and we're unranked. We'll win. Hard to believe according to Vegas that we're still a -3.5 point favorite with a 61% chance to win. 

Not so fast according to that TCU stats guy on twitter

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NSIAP the 49-0 runout video is probably one of my all time favorite Texas videos. Stadium rocking. You can see Quinn in awe of the crowd. Also, the audio doesn’t cut out like the one from last year

 

 

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 Ian Boyd: The way forward for the Texas offense after Florida

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The Longhorns are in a world of hurt on offense. After the Florida game, I moved up the alarm levels to DEFCON 2, but I doubt it changed anyone’s minds. It was already clear the Longhorn offensive performance against Florida signaled a team with very little chance of making a playoff run. Now there’s very little time for the staff to rethink things or adjust before the Longhorns play the most important game of the season: the Red River Shootout against the Oklahoma Sooners.

Oklahoma thrives on defeating Texas, and this game consistently poses a significant challenge for the Longhorns. Can they muster the fitness and focus to channel the university’s vast resources into a winning effort against a determined foe in the unique Cotton Bowl atmosphere? Current oddsmaker lines favoring Texas largely reflect doubts about John Mateer’s participation. Even if he doesn’t play, Oklahoma’s defense, which we’ll discuss this week, is ideally suited to exploit the Longhorns’ weak offensive line.

So, what strategy can this offense adopt to regroup and secure a win in the Cotton Bowl? A victory over Oklahoma would grant Texas another week to grow and improve, opening up unpredictable possibilities. However, a loss could render the season a disappointment for many fans, leaving few meaningful achievements for a team ranked preseason No. 1.

The problem with the Texas offense

Here’s the problem. Steve Sarkisian’s Texas offense is designed to set up deep passing plays, protect the quarterback with varied formations and maximum protection off play-action, and keep the defense honest by running the ball effectively. Running the ball sets the stage for the play-action deep shots and screen passes that provide much of the actual production for the offense.

With a deep shot artist like Arch Manning at the helm it’s even more important the run game set up those other concepts. But this team can’t run the football. Rather than setting the table for downfield passes, the run game’s failures disrupt the passing game by inviting conservative pass defenses and aggressive pass rushes. Worse, the same offensive line that falters in run blocking also struggles to protect for the vertical passing game.

As a result, the team may score occasionally if scripted deep passes connect, but it struggles to control the ball and score consistently due to uneven play in the trenches. Sarkisian called numerous deep passes against Florida because he knew Texas’s only chance to score was to increase variance by frequently aiming for big plays.

That’s a far cry from what we expected from the offense this season but it’s hard to see things changing given how poorly the offensive line has played, the paucity of options, and the complete lack of game-breakers at running back. Not only is the O-line often poor, but when they do block well the running backs either waste opportunities or fail to maximize runs. Suffice to say the tight ends don’t offer many solutions either.

In short, the problems are too numerous for easy solutions. So, what can be done?

“Surely the opening vistas of space promise high costs and hardships, as well as high reward.”

There is only one way forward for a team that cannot control good opponents in the trenches. To vacate the trenches in favor of space exploration. Consider two contrasting deep passing plays against Florida:

In the first play, Texas attempts a deep pass from maximum protection (seven blockers) in 11 personnel. It’s spread personnel but max protection means there isn’t full commitment to spreading out the defense. Florida counters by sending a defensive back off the edge late, unnoticed, while dropping linebackers into coverage, disrupting Texas’s blocking scheme.

Although this allows Florida to double-team several routes, they still concede a one-on-one matchup to Emmett Mosley (fifth of that name), whose double move creates separation downfield. Unfortunately, two of Florida’s four pass rushers are matched up on the weakest blockers, the running back and tight ens. The resulting pressure prevents Manning from getting a good throw off.

In the second play, the tight end flexes out instead of blocking, simplifying the coverage and stressing Florida’s secondary. Despite poor pass protection, the impact is mitigated by the increased space and clearer reads. The route combination to the trips side goes (inside to out) whip-dig-post and is very potent. The whip-dig pairing has been effective for Texas this season, and adding the post-dig variation mixed things up while providing Manning with a quick read on the deep safety.

It was clear in this game that Texas’ best bet was to sporadically connect on explosive plays when Manning could scramble or throw on the run. Can this approach sustain an entire game? No, but it could produce enough scores to give Texas a chance to win. Quick hitting spread passing could potentially serve to replace the running game and help set the table for the deeper shots.

Making a shift to more of a spread approach would challenge Sarkisian, who favors double moves and longer-developing routes for outside receivers from heavier formations, but the offensive line and tight ends lack the skill to execute this strategy effectively, especially against Oklahoma.

Texas needs the flexibility of operating in open space with more skilled players on the field, especially with Mosley’s return adding depth. Manning requires quick reads and answers to pressure, even on deep passes, and more space to maneuver when forced to play hero-ball. The Longhorns need to stress defenses in space rather than trying to challenge them in the box.

If the Longhorns can exploit space effectively, they could incorporate tempo and attempt to run the ball after first downs against defenses struggling to regroup and align. Running becomes significantly easier against a fatigued, unprepared opponent. Will this work for Texas? Perhaps, but it’s a better option than their current ineffective running strategy.

If Sark were to fly in Mike Gundy tomorrow for a consulting session, he’d tell him the same thing. He’d say drop all but a few run schemes, spread em out, sling the ball around the field, and move the critical point away from the trenches. Texas can’t win games like the Red River Shootout in the trenches, they can only lose them.

Scipio Tex: What Now On The Texas Longhorns Offensive Line?

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We’ll be doing an All 22 Deep Dive tomorrow on the IT Youtube channel. It will be worth your time to help understand the challenges that this offense faces. The Florida Gators had 36 pressures on Texas in the Swamp. They had 34 in their prior four games combined. Right now, I have us as somewhere between the 12th to 15th best OL in the SEC. We have a cushion because Mississippi State lost both of their starting tackles.

We can bemoan how we got here, but what’s the best template going forward? What lineup offers Texas the best chance to win? I don’t know. I knew we had very serious problems after Ohio State because I can see more than the box score, but the lack of progress or the clean up of basic errors continues. Our more fundamental issues can’t be addressed in-season.

So maybe we can puzzle through it together. My inclination is to prioritize the best pass protecting unit. In fact, throwing it with efficacy may open up an opportunistic run game. I don’t see it working the other way. That means there are two certain starters: left tackle Trevor Goosby and right guard DJ Campbell. Goosby had his worst game as a Longhorn on Saturday, but we have no other tackle options and he is talented, even though his technique has plateaued and he isn’t strong at the point of contact. He’s long with excellent feet and general athleticism.

Campbell must start, partly because he’s been a solid pass protector overall, but also because we have no other options. The veteran Campbell has six penalties this year, which is not ideal for a program mainstay with 36 starts, but his effort level has been better against the last two opponents. What are our other choices for RT, C, LG then?

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  • C Robertson
  • C/G Hutson
  • C Cruz

Hutson was awful against Florida and he’s been closer to Stroh in grading than Campbell. He struggles with both quickness and power in pass pro and he has odd lapses as a run blocker. Does that change at guard? If he moves back there, that opens up the potential for inserting Robertson at center. Robertson has played 89 snaps at a roughly below average level at center this year.

He struggles with power rushers in pass protection, but has decent awareness and can make the calls. He’s an occupy guy in the run game. He won’t move people, but he keeps them occupied for longer than some of our other OL, who are not very sticky. Cruz is a complete unknown. I doubt we baptize him in the Red River.

  • G/T Brooks
  • G/T Chatman
  • T Baker

Baker is the most penalized player on the team with 7. He has good feet and has some athleticism. He is also weak and technically raw. The more he gets pushed around, the more his technique degrades. He excels most as a puller and down blocker. We can work with that, but the penalties have to stop. Brooks leads the entire offensive line in pressures allowed for the season, but he earned that distinction in only 44 snaps against Florida.

Brooks allowed nine pressures, seven hurries and a sack in less than a full game. He should have been pulled. Keeping him out there was not cool. PFF graded him at a 3.8 on a 100 point scale in pass pro. He has logged 25 snaps at RT this year in spot action, but I don’t trust him against opponents with a pulse. A lot of switching this OL up is reliant on the idea that guys like Hutson or Brooks are different players at other positions, but I’m skeptical. Chatman was talked up all offseason as a key swing guy and possibly the 6th man of the OL. He has 10 snaps this year. That’s difficult to square.

  • G Stroh
  • G Umeozulu
  • G Kibble

Stroh is unplayable. He may not be a P4 player, now or ever. Umeozulu has played better than the others at left guard in limited snaps, but he’s never been known for assignment soundness. Maybe he didn’t take an early season benching well and that explains why he’s in the dog house? Couldn’t tell you. The time for kicking the tires on Kibble was in our last three games.

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I don’t see any easy answers, but Baker gets the nod for me at RT, mostly for a lack of options. He also has some traits. Now we’re left figuring out the mess at center and left guard. If it helps to contextualize our plight there, Florida DT Brien Taylor (#33) had 0 sacks, 0 pressures, 0 QB hits, 0 hurries coming into the Texas game. He played in all of their games, averaging 22 snaps per. But he was a box score blank.

On only 24 snaps against the Longhorns facing only Hutson, Brooks and Stroh, he had 5 pressures, 2 sacks, 2 hurries and a big QB hit. Those are prime Aaron Donald numbers.

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Perhaps the best pass pro combo is Goosby-Hutson-Robertson-Campbell-Baker but I think people are under the impression that Hutson has been solid or that Robertson was good in his single start. Overall, I’d adopt an iterative process. Start throwing combos in with Goosby, Campbell, Baker and see if they can stay afloat.

That’s a stupid and absolutely horrific way to manage an OL, but here we are. We should have explored other options against our three week run of G5’s but proactive isn’t the word that leaps to mind with regard to how this staff has managed this unit. The suggestion box is open.

 

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12 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

no idea who this is, but go horns ...

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I take it you're not referring to the bloke in the 4 Loko jersey, or my favorite, the cutie hauling up the four cold ones with a sense of purpose.

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19 hours ago, satyanash said:

We desperately need 1) fewer penalties, 2) Arch throwing the ball on time, and 3) more 3rd down conversions. I know better than to expect our horrendous O-line to improve before the end of the season (thanks to the Strong and Herman years) but cleaning up the smaller things would go a long way towards giving ourselves a chance to win this week.

Reminder; it's been 16 years since we've defeated blOU in back-to-back seasons. If we lose this Saturday, blOU is just 12 games away from evening up the all-time head-to-head in the rivalry (down from 20 games away at the start of the century). 

I'd add 4) Arch to see the open short and intermediate throws. It's like he's completely blind to anything either unscripted or not a deep ball.

13 hours ago, Bodacious Bevo said:

I agree with the sentiment that we need more of these, but Arch hasn’t been very good at them. Against UF the throwback screen to Clark was low, the inside screen to Endries was late and got him lit up for one yard, the TD throw to Wisner was late, and he nearly threw a horrific INT on an RPO. He had a couple other RPOs that were completed, but one was still a bit off target. Against OSU he had the miss to Wingo on the final 3rd and 5 among others. Another game he had the turndown to Livingstone on the rollout that would become an INT in the end zone. 

Still think we need these to stretch defenses horizontally and get reps for improvement, but I get why it’s not just an easy fix for Sark, especially since this was the plan for the entire offseason. 

True. I'm not sure we do one thing well on offense - except when Livingstone is targeted/catches the ball.

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4 minutes ago, MuellerHorn said:

I'm not sure we do one thing well on offense - except when Livingstone is targeted/catches the ball.

Speaking of one of my all-time favorite Jags, how's his health? I haven't seen anything. Sure hope he's good to go Saturday.

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18 minutes ago, Sgt Hulk said:

Meteer pushing to return lol 

He may play, or this is all just gamesmanship to make us prepare for both. Honestly who cares.  It isn’t like Hawkins isn’t mobile and it isn’t like Mateer doesn’t like to throw up some wildass passes himself.  Win, whoever they trot out there.

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23 minutes ago, Sgt Hulk said:

Meteer pushing to return lol 

I wouldn't bet against it, and I have no idea why that's a lol moment.

The guy is a gamer.  If he is on the field, he's probably going to play well.

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27 minutes ago, Sgt Hulk said:

Meteer pushing to return lol 

No idea why Venebles would risk his season for this one game.  They can easily win this game without him.

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Just now, UTEX_ME said:

 

No idea why Venebles would risk his season for this one game.  They can easily win this game without him.

he wants to destroy us after the whippings we have given him

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I’m not sure I’d rush my starting quarterback back for a cupcake game against us, but if he wants to make a statement and we can ruin OU season by injuring them further I’m all for it

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11 minutes ago, UTEX_ME said:

 

No idea why Venebles would risk his season for this one game.  They can easily win this game without him.

No, they can’t, and they know it. We match up way better with OU’s athletes than Florida’s athletes. They are fucked if Mateer can’t go. 

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3 minutes ago, Helobious said:

No, they can’t, and they know it. We match up way better with OU’s athletes than Florida’s athletes. They are fucked if Mateer can’t go. 

You mother fucker 

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14 minutes ago, Helobious said:

No, they can’t, and they know it. We match up way better with OU’s athletes than Florida’s athletes. They are fucked if Mateer can’t go. 

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