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Posted (edited)
22 minutes ago, Pam Cummings said:

Except nobody has said that. The most "conspiracy" thing said has been related to the point spread. 

So that wasn't about the fix? This whole thread is full of people saying the call was fishy and pondering who could be behind it. I just think he missed it, and the booth couldn't be sure in the moment, and we got screwed.

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39 minutes ago, SuckitKevin said:

The problem with the officiating is that the worst calls all resulted in points for Vandy or taken away from Texas. Obvious PI would have been at least a FG but likely a td. 2 pt conversion. Tackle our DE on Pavia’s run. This is at least 8 points and possibly 16 that Texas got fucked out of. This isn’t counting what might have happened without the “hit out of bounds” or the ridiculous false start. This level of ineptitude fucks with the integrity of the game.

Not disagreeing BUT 

DON’T GIVE UP A FUCKING 1 PLAY SCORING DRIVE 

and none of that shit matters

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8 minutes ago, mwaadeeb said:

You think that's where I'm wrong?

Can I suggest something?  "Where you're wrong" is calling people you disagree with "nimrod," claiming to be a better lawyer than a lawyer, and picking individual arguments with about 5 different posters.  

You have a point and you've made it (repeatedly).  We got it.  You can stop.

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Posted
4 hours ago, Vanilla Strange Gato said:

First time posting on Surly?

literally everything is a conspiracy here.  The entire world has it out for the Horns and they are all in on it together.  
 

The Illuminati wills it so. 

well said brotha 

Posted
17 minutes ago, ChickenSandwich said:

Not disagreeing BUT 

DON’T GIVE UP A FUCKING 1 PLAY SCORING DRIVE 

and none of that shit matters

Oh I’m as pissed about that as anyone, we fucked ourselves a few times for sure. Hopefully those things can be fixed.

Posted
29 minutes ago, mwaadeeb said:

So that wasn't about the fix? This whole thread is full of people saying the call was fishy and pondering who could be behind it. I just think he missed it, and the booth couldn't be sure in the moment, and we got screwed.

Calls like that make random fans say "the fix is in". The fans aren't professionals doing a job for money. The refs are. You can't have calls like that.

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Posted
6 hours ago, Prime said:

 

The point at which the ball was farthest forward of the LOS was as it went out of bounds. If it didn’t hit the pylon at that point it never broke the plane

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Posted (edited)
49 minutes ago, Paul Wesley said:

Can I suggest something?  "Where you're wrong" is calling people you disagree with "nimrod," claiming to be a better lawyer than a lawyer, and picking individual arguments with about 5 different posters.  

You have a point and you've made it (repeatedly).  We got it.  You can stop.

They came at me, hos. Except for Tex Pete who called the guy agreeing with me a bitch. And I am a lawyer, if going to law school and passing bar count.

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In reality, the ref was probably looking directly at the pylon. The ball got really close to the chalk, depending on the angle it looked like the laces may have touched it, and the pylon obscured the guys vision from telling. He called it good and they couldn’t overturn it.

Live, I thought they were just reviewing it because it was a potential scoring play. I didn’t see him signal that it was good. From the broadcast angle, it wasn’t close.

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4 hours ago, RomaVicta said:

Analytics" and announcers and coaches seem to consider it a math problem. Does three points really matter against what we may gain? They don't see it as giving the other team an opportunity for a small victory that they would otherwise not have. They also don't know the value of three points until very late in the game. 

While I'm not a fan of Jimbo Fisher, I heard him make a very good point a few weeks ago on XM 84. He did that the "analytics" only tell you how often something works, but they don't tell you what happens afterwards if it doesn't work. 

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Posted
1 hour ago, Sawbonz said:

The point at which the ball was farthest forward of the LOS was as it went out of bounds. If it didn’t hit the pylon at that point it never broke the plane

It's also true that the runner's knee hit the ground well before he went out of bounds. Everyone seemed focused on whether the ball hit the pylon, ignoring the fact that he was down before that. 

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Posted
3 hours ago, SuckitKevin said:

The problem with the officiating is that the worst calls all resulted in points for Vandy or taken away from Texas. Obvious PI would have been at least a FG but likely a td. 2 pt conversion. Tackle our DE on Pavia’s run. This is at least 8 points and possibly 16 that Texas got fucked out of. This isn’t counting what might have happened without the “hit out of bounds” or the ridiculous false start. This level of ineptitude fucks with the integrity of the game.

I suppose the end-zone DPI wasn't called because the official whose first-line call it was called it a TD.  But others should have tossed the flag.

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2 hours ago, Paul Wesley said:

Can I suggest something?  "Where you're wrong" is calling people you disagree with "nimrod," claiming to be a better lawyer than a lawyer, and picking individual arguments with about 5 different posters.  

You have a point and you've made it (repeatedly).  We got it.  You can stop.

Well, tbh, if you pick an argument with five different posters, odds are good that three of em are lawdogs.

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1 hour ago, Horndog said:

While I'm not a fan of Jimbo Fisher, I heard him make a very good point a few weeks ago on XM 84. He did that the "analytics" only tell you how often something works, but they don't tell you what happens afterwards if it doesn't work. 

He's exactly right. 

Fucker's been reading my posts!

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Posted
1 hour ago, Horndog said:

It's also true that the runner's knee hit the ground well before he went out of bounds. Everyone seemed focused on whether the ball hit the pylon, ignoring the fact that he was down before that. 

LOL holy shit. 
 

Reminds me of a game (I think a bowl game) between OU and Oregon.  Onside kick or something and a huge pileup, the ball squirts out and an OU guy picks it up and is holding it.  Refs spend like 5 min trying to unravel the pile looking for the ball, the OU guy is holding it standing to the side and tries to give it to the ref.   Refs keep digging in and award the ball to Oregon.

HAHA did OU get fucked on that one.

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1 hour ago, Sgt Hulk said:

I like the pechanga resort Casino ad I occasionally get on this site. It’s topical with gambling 

This hits close to home while I was in Southern California. Was hitting a hot older woman that was 8 years my age from Highland, CA. Meh casino in my opinion 

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5 minutes ago, Jimbob said:

LOL holy shit. 
 

Reminds me of a game (I think a bowl game) between OU and Oregon.  Onside kick or something and a huge pileup, the ball squirts out and an OU guy picks it up and is holding it.  Refs spend like 5 min trying to unravel the pile looking for the ball, the OU guy is holding it standing to the side and tries to give it to the ref.   Refs keep digging in and award the ball to Oregon.

HAHA did OU get fucked on that one.

Something similar happened to us in the aforementioned Oklahoma State screw job.

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2 hours ago, Horndog said:

While I'm not a fan of Jimbo Fisher, I heard him make a very good point a few weeks ago on XM 84. He did that the "analytics" only tell you how often something works, but they don't tell you what happens afterwards if it doesn't work. 

That may be why he's unemployed because it's wrong. Any decent analytics team now reports on each decision based on net points EV, win probability, or some other end game result for the decision. 

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20 minutes ago, Jimbob said:

LOL holy shit. 

Reminds me of a game (I think a bowl game) between OU and Oregon.  Onside kick or something and a huge pileup, the ball squirts out and an OU guy picks it up and is holding it.  Refs spend like 5 min trying to unravel the pile looking for the ball, the OU guy is holding it standing to the side and tries to give it to the ref.   Refs keep digging in and award the ball to Oregon.

HAHA did OU get fucked on that one.

It was non-conf.  I remember that and how no one in the media mentioned it at all.  It was wild.

#23 for OU casually walks off with the ball and everyone is looking at the pile:

 

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1 hour ago, TwiceHorn said:

I suppose the end-zone DPI wasn't called because the official whose first-line call it was called it a TD.  But others should have tossed the flag.

Vandy DB was all over him well before the catch. Flags should have been coming out before he even stretched his hands out for the ball. Just another flagrant, willfully ignored foul against Vandy.

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10 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

That may be why he's unemployed because it's wrong. Any decent analytics team now reports on each decision based on net points EV, win probability, or some other end game result for the decision. 

That's all math. If Jimbo is agreeing with me, we're talking about the emotional shift. What is their calculation for the victory for the team who stops the offense and, for all practical purposes, scores three points themselves? The result of that is not necessarily reflected in victory. Houston sprang back to life and still barely lost.

Would the analysis conclude that it was wise of Texas to put that game is such jeopardy?

The table that coaches used for years about going for two or not has also been flawed. It depends on where you are in the game. 

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21 minutes ago, JBJ said:

It was non-conf.  I remember that and how no one in the media mentioned it at all.  It was wild.

#23 for OU casually walks off with the ball and everyone is looking at the pile:

 

On the list of worst calls in college football history, this is the one I have the least issue with for some reason.

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24 minutes ago, JBJ said:

It was non-conf.  I remember that and how no one in the media mentioned it at all.  It was wild.

#23 for OU casually walks off with the ball and everyone is looking at the pile:

 

That’s the one

and they show replay after replay and cut it off before you see what actually happens.  The ball bounces out of the pile and 23 picks it up and is standing there with it.  HA, OU sucks

Posted
12 minutes ago, Jimbob said:

That’s the one

and they show replay after replay and cut it off before you see what actually happens.  The ball bounces out of the pile and 23 picks it up and is standing there with it.  HA, OU sucks

Yeah, the announcers being completely clueless, and the replay cutting off was absolutely wild at the time. 

Posted
22 minutes ago, Hank_Hill said:

lol at people defending him in the comments. Like the guy wasn’t just arrested for the same thing at a HOME GAME

I'm shocked the Pavia brothers are from Albuquerque.  Actually, no I'm not..... 

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4 hours ago, Horndog said:

While I'm not a fan of Jimbo Fisher, I heard him make a very good point a few weeks ago on XM 84. He did that the "analytics" only tell you how often something works, but they don't tell you what happens afterwards if it doesn't work. 

That type of analysis is why aggy pays him $10M a year 

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3 hours ago, Sgt Hulk said:

I like the pechanga resort Casino ad I occasionally get on this site. It’s topical with gambling 

quit being a cheap fuck and pay the fucking 3.50 a month and you won't have that problem.

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2 hours ago, The Original CaliHorn said:

This hits close to home while I was in Southern California. Was hitting a hot older woman that was 8 years my age from Highland, CA. Meh casino in my opinion 

Highland isn't Pechanga.  Pechanga is in Temecula.  You're thinking of Yaamava.  Used to be San Manuel.  And those blanket asses just bought the Waldorf-Astoria Monarch Beach resort in Dana Point.  It's good to be an Indian these days. 

*Isbell is playing Pechanga in January. 

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5 hours ago, mwaadeeb said:

They came at me, hos. Except for Tex Pete who called the guy agreeing with me a bitch. And I am a lawyer, if going to law school and passing bar count.

Well, that squares. You're about as insufferable and miserable to be around as anyone I can remember. You'll be a great lawyer. 

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3 hours ago, Jimbob said:

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ahem...you forgot 1 highly paid Nurse

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