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TIL there’s something called fraud tourism. Congrats, Minnesota.


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Pretty enormous amount of money in aggregate. 
 

Minnesota, fraud epicenter. 
 

"The magnitude cannot be overstated," Thompson said. "What we see in Minnesota is not a handful of bad actors committing crimes. It's staggering, industrial-scale fraud."

The five charged include two Philadelphia residents who have been accused of "fraud tourism" after they registered as Minnesota providers, Thompson said, adding that for them the scheme was "easy money."

"Minnesota has become a magnet for fraud, so much so that we have developed a fraud tourism industry – people coming to our state purely to exploit and defraud its programs," Thompson said. "This is a deeply unsettling reality that all Minnesotans should understand."
 

The two men, Anthony Waddel Jefferson and Lester Brown, were accused of siphoning millions from federally funded programs administered by Minnesota officials that were meant to help the disabled and those suffering from addiction, according to court filings.

They allegedly fleeced the housing program in Minnesota despite "living on the other side of the country and having no network in or connections to Minnesota or its communities," the filings stated.

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7 minutes ago, Vato Macho said:

Pretty enormous amount of money in aggregate. 
 

Minnesota, fraud epicenter. 
 

"The magnitude cannot be overstated," Thompson said. "What we see in Minnesota is not a handful of bad actors committing crimes. It's staggering, industrial-scale fraud."

The five charged include two Philadelphia residents who have been accused of "fraud tourism" after they registered as Minnesota providers, Thompson said, adding that for them the scheme was "easy money."

"Minnesota has become a magnet for fraud, so much so that we have developed a fraud tourism industry – people coming to our state purely to exploit and defraud its programs," Thompson said. "This is a deeply unsettling reality that all Minnesotans should understand."
 

The two men, Anthony Waddel Jefferson and Lester Brown, were accused of siphoning millions from federally funded programs administered by Minnesota officials that were meant to help the disabled and those suffering from addiction, according to court filings.

They allegedly fleeced the housing program in Minnesota despite "living on the other side of the country and having no network in or connections to Minnesota or its communities," the filings stated.

Yeah. I'm calling bullshit. From the release, it sounds like they are using some pretty skin level data analysis.

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10 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

So the crime indicted there is about 2.1 million and there's rank speculation that it's half of the Minnesota outlay.

They also took shots at Somalians.

That is not standard DOJ material to speculate about unindicted crime.

This reeks of Trumpian bullshit.

And this guy talking, Joe Thompson, is the First Assistant US Attorney, who is usually a pretty apolitical civil servant, an actual prosecutor/trial lawyer.

In this case, he's another expired US Attorney appointment from Trump, so a complete Trump hack.

a fat man with a mustache is sitting on an airplane .

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An article from Reason https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/trumps-somali-insults-disgrace-123045459.html

This gives you the idea that all of this is more or less cooked up.

The Trump administration digs around for some minority group, preferably black, to shit on, and finds some ostensible reason to do so, whether factual or not.

And then turns it into eating cats and dogs.

And, this would seem to be a sign of Bari Weiss' CBS news following the script.

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10 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

An article from Reason https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/trumps-somali-insults-disgrace-123045459.html

This gives you the idea that all of this is more or less cooked up.

The Trump administration digs around for some minority group, preferably black, to shit on, and finds some ostensible reason to do so, whether factual or not.

And then turns it into eating cats and dogs.

And, this would seem to be a sign of Bari Weiss' CBS news following the script.

And if it's not, I'd be willing to bet it's Trump backers who profited from the scam.

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8 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

An article from Reason https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/trumps-somali-insults-disgrace-123045459.html

This gives you the idea that all of this is more or less cooked up.

The Trump administration digs around for some minority group, preferably black, to shit on, and finds some ostensible reason to do so, whether factual or not.

And then turns it into eating cats and dogs.

And, this would seem to be a sign of Bari Weiss' CBS news following the script.



Trump:  ""Why is it we only take people from sh**hole countries, right, why can't we have some people from Norway, Sweden, just a few…We always take people from Somalia, places that are a disaster, dirty, filthy, disgusting, ridden with crime." 

Having spent quite a bit of time in Norway, I'll tell you why Donald: why would anybody move from Norway to a shithole country like the United States?   That's exactly what any of my Norwegian friends would say, though they might be too polite to say it. 



 

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33 minutes ago, DalTxHornFan said:

a fat man with a mustache is sitting on an airplane .

Come on man. You know that half of the state's Medicaid payments being fraud is an absolutely absurd claim. As an officer of the court, you know that is an absolutely insane allegation without substantial evidence. Read that release and tell me you actually believe they have any. They did the most cursory of reviews of the data and came up with ridiculous conclusions. 

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13 hours ago, Vato Macho said:

The five charged include two Philadelphia residents who have been accused of "fraud tourism" after they registered as Minnesota providers, Thompson said, adding that for them the scheme was "easy money."
 

The two men, Anthony Waddel Jefferson and Lester Brown, were accused of siphoning millions from federally funded programs administered by Minnesota officials that were meant to help the disabled and those suffering from addiction, according to court filings.

They allegedly fleeced the housing program in Minnesota despite "living on the other side of the country and having no network in or connections to Minnesota or its communities," the filings stated.

Not Somali.

 

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12 hours ago, C-Man said:

And if it's not, I'd be willing to bet it's Trump backers who profited from the scam.

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Prosecutors allege they used the proceeds to travel to international destinations, including London, Istanbul and Dubai. 

One defendant submitted $1.4 million in fraudulent claims, using some of the funds to purchase cryptocurrency, Thompson said. 

 

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14 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

In this case, he's another expired US Attorney appointment from Trump, so a complete Trump hack.

Probably pretty important to note that "expired US Attorney appointment" pretty much means the appointee is unconfirmable by the Senate.  And the Senate confirmed Judge Janine.

So, we're talking assclowns like Ed Martin, Alina Habba, and Lindsey Halligan.  Add Joe Thompson, the commenter here.

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18 hours ago, C-Man said:

And if it's not, I'd be willing to bet it's Trump backers who profited from the scam.

 

2 hours ago, Ted Lange said:

Fraud?   Trump loves that, pardons fraudsters all the time.  

Yes, they’ll find some fraud but not anywhere near theirs explosive headline and then Trump will pardon his supporter that committed the fraud after they make a purchase of one of the family crypto coins.

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2 hours ago, Incredulity said:

Surly Leftists 

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this is my unsurprised face

 

It looks as legit as the mortgage fraud bullshit this administration accused its enemies of.

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2 hours ago, Incredulity said:

Surly Leftists 

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this is my unsurprised face

 

 

 

There is going to be real fraud. There always is with programs this size. I've been involved in bringing civil cases for Medicare and Medicaid fraud. But it isn't going to be billions or 50% of the Medicaid program. It'll be a very small fraction. And the fraud they appear to actually have evidence of here is a couple million. 

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29 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

There is going to be real fraud. There always is with programs this size. I've been involved in bringing civil cases for Medicare and Medicaid fraud. But it isn't going to be billions or 50% of the Medicaid program. It'll be a very small fraction. And the fraud they appear to actually have evidence of here is a couple million. 

Yep.  

Rat chere in Texas. https://www.fox4news.com/news/48-texans-charged-nationwide-14-6-billion-healthcare-fraud-takedown 

 

Biggest takedown supposedly in US history.  https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/national-health-care-fraud-takedown-results-324-defendants-charged-connection-over-146 But here, the numbers actually add up.  Also, funny, not a single one in the D. Minn.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Schulz2.0 said:

It looks as legit as the mortgage fraud bullshit this administration accused its enemies of.

Were the Haitians not really stealing and eating pets?  But did they still lose their status as refugees and get sent back to (checks notes) Haitia?

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22 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

Is that really all that much different than Ohio? 

None of these fraudsters will get pardoned by a democrat or elected to the Senate, like your GOP would do.   Clown 

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lol this shit is always so funny...an apocalyptic scale and magnitude and ubiquitousness of grift and corruption and cruelty and incompetence befalls us daily but one ohhhgotcha! and they're baaack trying to dunk 😄 very aggy

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You'd think they'd learn if you didn't exaggerate everything using absurd unbelievable numbers maybe someone would take you seriously. Real actual fraud? Prosecute it. Hyperbole bullshit to grab headlines and distract from all of the other crimes being committed daily? Fuck off.

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25 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

It’s only 18 billion… whats the big deal?

 

amirite?

Who says fraud isn’t a big deal, other than Trump and the GOP?

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16 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

Motions around thread generally….

 

 

So quote who said fraud isn’t a big deal.  Any thoughts on trump pardoning people CONVICTED of committing fraud or the GOP electing a billion dollar fraudster to the senate?

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2 minutes ago, Ted Lange said:

So quote who said fraud isn’t a big deal.  Any thoughts on trump pardoning people CONVICTED of committing fraud or the GOP electing a billion dollar fraudster to the senate?

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2 minutes ago, Ted Lange said:

So quote who said fraud isn’t a big deal.  Any thoughts on trump pardoning people CONVICTED of committing fraud or the GOP electing a billion dollar fraudster to the senate?

Does Trump still owe the state of New York a quarter of a billion dollars for.... fraud? Or was that wiped out because he was elected king and can commit no crimes. 

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Commit fraud, go to jail. 
 

How rich is it that the local bootlickers are exercised by small fry fraudsters while ignoring the grifter in chief? Three billion, according to some estimates, in year one term 2. 
 

These folks swallow whatever shit is fed them without complaint. Their brains filter and block any thought of the feculence they consume.

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37 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

Motions around thread generally….

 

 

No one has said fraud isn't a problem.  

We've doubted the amount, locale, and perpetrators of the fraud.

 

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1 hour ago, Incredulity said:

But, but, but ….Trump FINAL BOSS!!!

Dude you are like every 70 year old MAGA grandparent's facebook post on steroids. What are you even talking about? Tim F-ing Walz? Really? Yeah, Minn is really doing people wrong up there with their rated one of the best states to live in. Just running with the first thing published on Fox eh? Did you hear that we have James Comey and Letitia James dead to rights? They are going to prison for sure. 

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