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41 minutes ago, Bevo said:

 

If you were, you confused me with "You're family whether you like it or not". That, my friend, is not a good fuck buddy. Unless she has hot, younger sisters.

you and your wife are family and y'all ... oh i see

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Russia has said the same when the US authorized sending F-16s to Ukraine, the Brits sent their cruise missiles to Ukraine, Patriots were sent to Ukraine, etc. and not done shit about them.  They won't do shit to Germany, either.

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News says Putin (and Trump to a degree) got played last week.  Ukraine calls Putin's bluff and accepts the offer of 1:1 peace talks in Turkey.  Trump suggest's he'll come too.  Then Putin bails at the last second and makes Trump look bad.  Hurt his feelings.  Sad.

Not likely we're gonna give them more kickass American weapons, but the offense must be punished.  Maybe some more sanctions.  Regardless, the drop in oil prices is accelerating Russia's economic decline.

Next step is to see how Russia's summer offensive goes.  Let's hope Ukraine keeps the dead meat:acres lost number very high.  At some point Russia WILL run out of meat.  Sooner > later.

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It seems to me that Ukraine should target Kadyrov. It wouldn’t escalate the war and the Chechnya/Georgia turmoil could expedite the fall of Russia. 

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22 minutes ago, immamac said:

So did anything happen from that call that was scheduled this morning? 

It was a tremendous call, really tremendous.  The best call, really.  A call the likes of which we've never seen.  We're going to get a great deal, a fantastic deal, you won't believe how great this deal is, and I'll be telling you about this great deal very, very soon.  Nobody but me could get a deal this amazing, really.

Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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1 hour ago, immamac said:

So did anything happen from that call that was scheduled this morning? 

Putin got Trump to chase his tail a little more by floating the idea of agreeing to begin work on working on a memo.  And apparently volunteered Pope Leo as mediator because he’s getting bored with the whole thing. 

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37 minutes ago, B00M said:

Trump pretended there are things in Russia we want to trade for

Well…yeah. The concept of a plan for newTrump Tower locations. 

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On 5/13/2025 at 10:56 AM, MissingInAction said:

I'm going to assume the Polish friendship was one of the special ones. 

In my experience those folks cherish friendship like no other. You're family whether you like it or not. Also you will be drunk and well fed. Very very drunk.

Yes, a very special friendship with the Pole and the Ukrainian. Only special (making out, light petting) with the Colombian and Bulgarian. 1-3-2-4, although the Bulgarian had just a knockout personality. I would party with her at any time.

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Helpful contribution from Putin’s lead propagandist. Bruce Springsteen and Taylor Swift can cause a full-on meltdown but the capacity to eat endless shit when it’s served by the Kremlin is unmatched.

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10 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Helpful contribution from Putin’s lead propagandist. …

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Lulz I thought you were referring to JD at first. Same same, I guess

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There is a YouTube channel that I saw a video on recently and I'm hesitant to post specific videos here because of the nature of the content.

 

It seems like they get videos from both AFU and RUS and then put them all together to show an entire engagement from both sides. Now, I think what they are actually doing is grabbing a bunch of footage and essentially using it as stock clips to stand in for their narrative, but the way it's presented is wild.

https://www.youtube.com/@spartan6604

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7 hours ago, cactusflinthead said:

Ceasefire my ass

 

I'm in no way diminishing the loss of 1 life nor the unknown injuries of 13 others. That said, the drone to effect rate and the ROI is something I'm extremely curious about given the state of the Russian economy. 

Piling on Norks or poor Russian gimps to die is one extremely poor engagement strategy, but let's be sadly honest, Russian and Nork lives are much cheaper than technology like drones/missles and the goods/products needed to produce them. I hate to be so horribly crass, but finance is a massive part of this war on both sides. 

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14 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

I'm in no way diminishing the loss of 1 life nor the unknown injuries of 13 others. That said, the drone to effect rate and the ROI is something I'm extremely curious about given the state of the Russian economy. 

Piling on Norks or poor Russian gimps to die is one extremely poor engagement strategy, but let's be sadly honest, Russian and Nork lives are much cheaper than technology like drones/missles and the goods/products needed to produce them. I hate to be so horribly crass, but finance is a massive part of this war on both sides. 

That is what Russia has always done. SERFS......

Man, you should read a book. :)

 

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28 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

…Russian and Nork lives are much cheaper than technology like drones/missles and the goods/products needed to produce them. I hate to be so horribly crass, but finance is a massive part of this war on both sides. 

It’s not a glitch, it’s a feature.  St. Petersburg is built on a swamp and they used the bodies of dead workers as fill.

A Russian man born in 1920 had like a 25% chance of being alive in 1947. Or something.

Chechnya war.  Russian soldiers hadta literally eat dogs.

Ukraine.  “Recon by meat.”  Send a buncha rubes across the front line.  Ukraine opens up the machine guns and kills them, and expose their own position.  Russia sends drones.

If Russian leaders don’t mind sending them to die, we don’t either.  Kill them faster.  More.  Only way this war will be won.  

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58 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

effect rate and the ROI

I don't think they can afford to stop. There's some thought that the war economy is propping up an otherwise shaky manufacturing sector. Plus, the ego has to be fed. They can't stop, won't stop.

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2 minutes ago, cactusflinthead said:

I don't think they can afford to stop. There's some thought that the war economy is propping up an otherwise shaky manufacturing sector. Plus, the ego has to be fed. They can't stop, won't stop.

This. The economy is a House of Cards, the war stops and things get so bad in Russia that there will be a coup. Putin knows this. 
 

CHIEF

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18 minutes ago, CHIEF said:

This. The economy is a House of Cards, the war stops and things get so bad in Russia that there will be a coup. Putin knows this. 
 

CHIEF

War is Peace.  

Perpetual war is part of the Putin plan.  See Transnistria, Ossetia, Abkhazia...

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1 hour ago, InkaUtexas said:

That is what Russia has always done. SERFS......

Man, you should read a book. :)

 

Maybe you should work on reading comprehension jack ass. Or maybe I need to work on my writing skills, doesn't matter.

I asking essentially wondering why Russia was using more expensive drones and missiles rather than continuing with traditional Russian strategies. Ya know, throwing shit tons of Russian and Nork lives at tbe problem. Also wondering what the variance of the cost and why they were being so stupid.

I honestly think it aligns to the Russian propaganda machine plans. Losing a bunch of more expensive drones appears, on the "surface" as a lower loss than videos from Ukraine showing Russians and Nork gimps getting their asses handed to them. 

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4 hours ago, Chad Fuck said:

War is Peace.  

Perpetual war is part of the Putin plan.  See Transnistria, Ossetia, Abkhazia...

If everyone fought for their own convictions there would be no war.

Crime is Punishment - maybe? 

But yeah, ongoing war is old KGB cannon and Putin is nothing if not a old school KGB mindset. 

He's never surrendering despite what it costs because all other factors aside his ego, narcissistic soul and KGB genetics won't let him.

Not sure why the ahem.. "western" leaders struggle with this reality.

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35 minutes ago, cactusflinthead said:

I don't think they can afford to stop. There's some thought that the war economy is propping up an otherwise shaky manufacturing sector. Plus, the ego has to be fed. They can't stop, won't stop.

I think it's ego and ideology first, economy second in Putin's mind, but yeah.

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15 hours ago, flatdawgs said:

I just assumed he was looking for Russian armor to confiscate, in the time-honored tradition.

When your neighbor has a T-72 in his barn and all you have is a busted ass BMP-1, well, the envy can make a man take risks he wouldn't otherwise take.

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Here’s what’s gonna happen.  One if these Russian shitbox ships is gonna lose power and/or fuck up it’s anchor.  Poland remembers >200 years of history and says, “Never again.”  They start shooting, Russia tries to shoot back.  
 

Article 5 kicks in.

We’ve read that the Scandinavian nations have navies built control the Baltic.  They let go of the leash, shit goes down and a buncha Russian shitbox ships get turnt into driftwood.  We have the biggest naval battle since the Jutland.

https://kyivindependent.com/poland-intercepts-russian-sanctions-evading-ship-near-critical-baltic-power-cable-tusk-says/
 

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1 hour ago, Parliament said:

Here’s what’s gonna happen.  One if these Russian shitbox ships is gonna lose power and/or fuck up it’s anchor.  Poland remembers >200 years of history and says, “Never again.”  They start shooting, Russia tries to shoot back.  
 

Article 5 kicks in.

We’ve read that the Scandinavian nations have navies built control the Baltic.  They let go of the leash, shit goes down and a buncha Russian shitbox ships get turnt into driftwood.  We have the biggest naval battle since the Jutland.

https://kyivindependent.com/poland-intercepts-russian-sanctions-evading-ship-near-critical-baltic-power-cable-tusk-says/
 

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And when Article 5 gets invoked, that fucking pussy ass guy backs down and holds the US out.  

Count on it.  

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On 5/20/2025 at 12:02 PM, cactusflinthead said:

I don't think they can afford to stop. There's some thought that the war economy is propping up an otherwise shaky manufacturing sector. Plus, the ego has to be fed. They can't stop, won't stop.

They can afford to stop. It’s very much true that the defense base and spending is propping up a flagging manufacturing segment.  But, the plan on the books already is to reconstitute their military to be able to seriously threaten a NATO neighbor within five years.  They are in a miserable position with labor shortages and returning men to the economy is badly needed (even that won’t reduce dependency on Central Asian migrant flows).  And they have a host of nations itching to more openly and greedily return to Russian petrochemicals the minute they can do so without fear of sanctions.  
 

Russia doesn’t need the war to adopt a defense production/war footing economy. They can do that without the war, and they will. They are not at all sensitive to consumer preferences, there’s not going to be any pressure on the apparatus to shift focus.  The (admittedly capable) technocrats who manage the economy and finances would very much prefer to get away from the current model, and are working miracles as is. 

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On 5/20/2025 at 11:01 AM, BurntEyes said:

I'm in no way diminishing the loss of 1 life nor the unknown injuries of 13 others. That said, the drone to effect rate and the ROI is something I'm extremely curious about given the state of the Russian economy. 

Piling on Norks or poor Russian gimps to die is one extremely poor engagement strategy, but let's be sadly honest, Russian and Nork lives are much cheaper than technology like drones/missles and the goods/products needed to produce them. I hate to be so horribly crass, but finance is a massive part of this war on both sides. 

The interceptors Ukraine uses to shoot them down are far more valuable in absolute and relative terms than the drones.  Many of the missile attacks, especially in civilian centers, are about signaling and not military value, which you can’t use soldiers to do.

On the Norks, the Russians do not have an endless supply.  Un is getting something out of this, namely the invaluable experience of real combat for some of his most capable units and a first hand look at Western-standard tactics and equipment.  It’s not that he objectively values his soldiers lives; but he does want many of them back. It’s a far muddier picture than just meat for the grinder with them. And some of them are turning out to be pretty good soldiers. 

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7 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

The interceptors Ukraine uses to shoot them down are far more valuable in absolute and relative terms than the drones.  Many of the missile attacks, especially in civilian centers, are about signaling and not military value, which you can’t use soldiers to do.

On the Norks, the Russians do not have an endless supply.  Un is getting something out of this, namely the invaluable experience of real combat for some of his most capable units and a first hand look at Western-standard tactics and equipment.  It’s not that he objectively values his soldiers lives; but he does want many of them back. It’s a far muddier picture than just meat for the grinder with them. And some of them are turning out to be pretty good soldiers. 

I boiled it down to simplest terms. 

To that end, your very point that Nork troups are getting experience has some issues as well. I don't dismiss it in broad terms but what they the Nork soldiers face aren't exactly a foreign enemy at it's peak nor a peak foreign enemy. To my knowledge there are zero US SoCom ground troops engaged in this combat. Granted, open knowledge vs reality can be a big variance in SoCom. So, as for a look at Western tactics, yeah true in a broad stroke but not relative to a true full engagement with Western tech, troops and power. Not even close. Further, they primary military tactical leadership is Russia not Un or North Korea. 

However, all of that misses the entire point of my post. I actually mentioned that I thought the use of the Russian tech was more for propaganda that tactical aspects. 

So let me restate the broader query. 

I am interested in a CBA and ROI of Russian and Nork troops vs the air attacks. The Russian threw a lot of tech at Ukraine and didn't get a lot of tactical advantage based on what I've seen. That's a lot of financial investment for a country with financial issues vs boots that, while not unlimited, can engage at a lower cost and achieve potentially better tactical gains. 

Its a military strategy question based on known issues and strategies. I dont want to completely derail the thread and it wasn't my intention. Rather it was a curiosity that admittedly jumps into a rabbit hole of deeper discussion on Russian tactics and Ukrainian/Western response.

I fully believe that Putin is not quitting/signing a truce and will continue the attack on Ukraine until he is pulled from office by death or coupe which could come in many forms.

I'm curios about the deeper dive from a military/tactical/financial perspective. That was my broader point. Again, perhaps its a separate thread from the broader discussion.

 

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Un has gotten some technical support from Putin and some other quid pro quo but my point on training the Norks stands. The Ukrainians are doing something we have not done in decades, fighting a high-intensity war against a major power. If we ever end up needing to do it, we will be coming to them for help and we already are learning from them. The important fighting in a major war like this is going to be done by regular troops and not special forces. On the integration piece, there have been issues due to language mostly, and the Russians do not have free rein to use them as desired. There are some firm left and right limits established on what (and where) they are available for.

The current time you have on the battlefield before a drone finds you is now measured in single minutes in most cases.  This is a real limiting factor in putting significant mass together and launching any sort of maneuver. The widespread adoption of non-jamming fiber optic drones has had dramatic impacts and is one more trend that is creating the current stalemate. 
 

The message Russia is sending with drone attacks is that it can sustain their attacks for longer than Ukraine can replenish air defenses. Russia does not “value” its soldiers but they are more than capable of understanding that they have manpower issues and have adapted.  You cannot take and hold territory with a Shahed, and they really have limited deterrent value. There’s far less reason to conserve them than Russian troops. They are of little value if they aren’t being used. 

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I think you continue to miss my bigger question which comes simply down to money.

Russia is running out if it.

How long can Russia keep throwing money on tech vs Russian soldiers to make a point of "we can do this longer than you can". The time may coming when Russian quite possibly simply can't afford to keep throwing drones at the problem given the financial factors. 

There is also a lot about what Socom does regarding ground troops you are dismissing or aren't aware of but that discussion isn't for this thread. 

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1 hour ago, BurntEyes said:

To that end, your very point that Nork troups are getting experience has some issues as well. I don't dismiss it in broad terms but what they the Nork soldiers face aren't exactly a foreign enemy at it's peak nor a peak foreign enemy. To my knowledge there are zero US SoCom ground troops engaged in this combat. Granted, open knowledge vs reality can be a big variance in SoCom. So, as for a look at Western tactics, yeah true in a broad stroke but not relative to a true full engagement with Western tech, troops and power.

If North Korea attacked South Korea tomorrow, or in the next 3 years, there will be zero US special operations troops engaging them.  Or even regular US troops engaging them.

I do agree that Lil Kim wants a lot of these troops back though since they do have some experience under fire now (although I have a feeling he's sent plenty of undesirables to be killed).

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1 hour ago, BurntEyes said:

I fully believe that Putin is not quitting/signing a truce and will continue the attack on Ukraine until he is pulled from office by death or coupe which could come in many forms.

I agree with this. He's sampled his own supply and appears to believe the bullshit he spouts, even if those around him don't. I think on some level he believes his future/survivability is tied to the outcome of this war.  He's done an extremely good job of purging people who could oppose him, and he's threaded the needle on not drafting too many out of St Pete's and Moscow and a few of the other larger cities, but all of that has its limits.  All he has to do is draft a few too many out of the larger cities, get some riots going, and some billionaires will knock him off with the help of Russian troops or private security forces that A) want some money and B) don't want to die in Ukraine.

 

26 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

How long can Russia keep throwing money on tech vs Russian soldiers to make a point of "we can do this longer than you can". The time may coming when Russian quite possibly simply can't afford to keep throwing drones at the problem given the financial factors. 

If/when Ukraine really starts slinging their beefy/long-range missiles and increases the tempo of those long-range drones they've trotted out every now and then, Putin will have to come up with something more than mostly ineffective drone attacks in response.

If we started seeing regular attacks on Moscow and St. Petersburg, well, first all available theater-wide air defenses will be moved back from the front/Ukraine which could change a lot of things. Second, Putin will have to come up with something substantial. These drone and missile attacks suck for Ukraine, but they aren't killing too many people for the amount launched, and if he truly had something better in decent quantities, it would have already been used (probably the moment Ukraine started seizing ground in Kursk) if not against civilian targets, then to hit strategic military targets.

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On 5/19/2025 at 9:03 PM, choripan said:

Okay, I am going to split this into parts and put each part under a Spoiler so it's not super TLDR.

First part, a sort of overall review:

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This was a great experience overall. I felt like I moved the needle at least a bit each day toward making the world a little bit better, saw some amazing things (the Ukrainian Motherland Monument is jawdropping, IMO), met interesting people, and got in touch with my roots. I also grew quite a bit because this was the first time I’d traveled in a while to a place where I could neither communicate beyond the basics nor read the majority of the signage, given the Cyrillic script used in Ukraine, at least. Here's the monument:

 

If you have the opportunity to volunteer, do it! I do a fair amount of volunteering, and sometimes it seems like “well, this good stuff would have happened just the same with or without me here.” In this case, with so many able-bodied people scooped up for military roles or lost entirely because they emigrated or died, it’s all hands on deck for the rebuilding and volunteer type activities. I really felt like I was helping rather than just being a body. Here's a typical scene as part of a job where we were doing demo on an old Soviet-era hospital so it could be renovated into a mental health center for veterans.

 

If you don’t have the opportunity or desire to volunteer, I encourage you to donate to these two groups. The first group is called Brave to Rebuild (https://bravetorebuild.in.ua/en). Out of the two “building/rehab/demolition” type groups I worked with, they were more organized and did a much better job of leading, directing, and motivating their volunteers. Only downside is that a lot of the leadership has day jobs, so they usually just work on weekends. The second group I can recommend is called Без Дому (Without Home) (https://www.instagram.com/bez.doma.ua/?hl=en / https://www.volunteeringukraine.com/en/volunteer-opportunities/ngo-without-home). I also worked with Dobrobat and it was okay. General consensus from talking to people is that if a group makes the Volunteering Ukraine site, they’re pretty vetted and legit: https://www.volunteeringukraine.com/en.

As for the travel:

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Outbound flights: Worth it to pay for the overnight lie flat seat in this case, given that I only had a hair under two weeks and wanted to minimize adjustment to the new time zone. FWIW, the new Delta One suites on their 350-900 are nice. Google them if you want a detailed Youtube review or something like that. They’re nice. After a couple hour layover in Amsterdam, I had a short KLM flight to Krakow that was uneventful. Overall, a nice experience and about as good as air travel gets. I had a couple hours to kill in Krakow, and Old Town Krakow is nice:

Outbound Trains – After killing a couple hours in Krakow, I hopped a couple hour train to Przemyśl, a Polish town about 20 minutes from the border. Once there, you go through outbound EU/Polish customs and are herded directly onto the Ukrainian overnight train by customs people and a couple armed guard types. Once the train is loaded, it goes for about 20 minutes until you are at the Polish-Ukrainian border and then they lock the doors to leave the cars and lock the doors to go between cars and then go suite-to-suite (4 bunks per “suite”). The train *to* Ukraine was pretty empty and I only had one other person in my suite on the way out, a Canadian scholar going to interview leaders of the government and military. He was cool. We shared numbers via Whatsapp and grabbed a beer in Kyiv one night. Anyway, aa gruff Ukrainian soldier then takes your passports and disappears. About a half-hour later, they give you the usual customs questions (Where you going? Why you here? Etc.) and our guy ended our interview with a scoff and a the most dismissive “Good luck” I’ve ever gotten in my life! Regardless, we had passports stamped and were cool to stay in Ukraine for up to 90 days. Here’s what the suite looked like:

Return trains: Overnight train was the same thing in reverse. This time, though, my suitemates were three Ukrainian women. One babushka that I would say was like 70, and two 50ish woman, one who was a smokeshow. Not sure what to call her. Older than a MILF but younger than a GILF. Anyway, the two younger ones hustled on two bottles of sparkling wine and a makeshift charcuterie. They invited me to join after learning I came all the way to Ukraine to volunteer. We all got a nice buzz and flirted and giggled while translating via Google Translate’s conversation feature (pretty neat, btw. Star Trek’s universal translator is basically here). Eventually, the older woman chastised us, the younger women started talking back to her, and the conductor came and yelled at all of us and told us to shut up or we were getting kicked off at the next stop. I didn’t understand shit until they explained the next morning, but I had my head on a swivel watching the animated discussions between the women and then eventually the women and the conductor. A fun evening all around, and I was ready to pass out. Same thing in reverse with respect to stopping the train at the border, and going through customs. BTW, Kyiv’s station was nice but not the Soviet-era opulence I expected:

Return flights – Here, the lie flat was super clutch on the return. I had a 6:00am flight out of Krakow on Friday, so I decided to just stay out all night on the night before I left in order to reacclimate to my home time zone. Thanks to meeting the Bulgarian chick, who took me to a couple really cool clubs, it was easy to stay up, head back to the apartment for one last shower, and catch a cab to the airport. Once I got to the airport, though, I was dog tired. I slept about an hour on my Krakow-Amsterdam flight, rented a sleep pod in the KLM lounge at AMS for 2 hours, and then slept 4 hours on the plane, which gave me about 7 hours that roughly aligned with my home time zone. That’s a win by any measure, especially following a good night out. Here's my drunk ass saying goodbye:

 

 

 

More to come later but it's time to get ready for bed:

  • Impressions of Kyiv/Russian Aggression
  • Impressions of Ukranians
  • Volunteering
  • Bonus Krakow Content

 

 

The train car looks a lot like the ones I rode in between Moscow and Leningrad/St. Petersburg back in 1987.

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Lots of noise in the info space, now making its way to right wing space that Ukraine tried to down Putin’s helicopter on its visit to Kursk. Clearly a play to isolate Kyiv further from Washington. 

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2 hours ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Lots of noise in the info space, now making its way to right wing space that Ukraine tried to down Putin’s helicopter on its visit to Kursk. Clearly a play to isolate Kyiv further from Washington. 

Do they really think he’d fly into an actively contested region, and not use one of his armored trains, and do they really think he wouldn’t send a body double?

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