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On 11/6/2020 at 6:52 AM, Errestaurants said:

Is it crazy to think that Biden should ask Munchin to stay on as Treasure Secretary thru the end of the pandemic? By most accounts he's done an excellent job with what he's had to work with. Imagine trying to get Orange boy, McConnell and Pelosi all on the same page and to agree. It seems Munchin and Pelosi have a good working relationship and he's also probably tired of dealing with Dotard.

Probably crazy but I think alot would get done between Biden, Senate Republicans, Pelosi and Munchin working together. 

 

 

Fuck no, everybody with the orange stink on them gets the guillotine.

 

On 11/6/2020 at 8:15 AM, burntorangebongos said:

Put John Kasich at  Defense,

 

 

Fuck no. Maybe if he officially changes party he can be a white house page or something.

 

 

 

"Listen to the rural people' he says. OK, lets imagine how that conversation is going to go:

Biden: we need to get y'all some health care.

Deplorables: Socialism!!!

Biden: your schools are underfunded and failing...

Deplorables: Muh taxes!!!

Biden: Global warming induced droughts are ...

Deplorables: Frack baby frack!!!

Biden: we need to come together as a country

Deplorables: FUCK YOUR FEELINGS LIBTARD!!!!!!

Biden: We are in the middle of a pandemic, please wear a mask...

Deplorables: FREEDOMMMMMM!!!!!!

Biden: Background checks might not be a bad idea...

Deplorables: MUH GUNS!!!!!!!! TYRANNY!!!!!!!!!

 

Fuck em all. Kasich can listen to them. I'm sure they'll like his folksy, down home manner. I'm sick of their stupid, racist shit.

 

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15 hours ago, APMP said:

I hope commeece goes to someone that isn't beholden to silicon valley, because I want Iancu to remain commissioner of the USPTO. He has been pretty damn good.

He really has.  I see some speculation that there's risk that Biden goes back to heavily BigTech influenced IP policy.  https://www.ipwatchdog.com/2020/11/05/as-biden-presidency-nears-concerns-over-return-to-obama-era-ip-politics-loom-large/id=127100/

Given that Google seems to be on the bipartisan shit list, hopefully that's overblown.

I had missed this but Google just had a patent invalidated on 101.  Reap the whirlwind fuckers.

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5 hours ago, High Plains Drifter said:

 

Fuck no, everybody with the orange stink on them gets the guillotine.

 

 

 

 

 

Yeah, I went back and looked at some of the policies that Kasich had as governor and he did some shit. I guess Biden thought he could help deliver Ohio so he put him through the vetting process. but he didn't win Ohio so screw Kasich. And this stiff arming the left BS he is spewing isn't needed. 

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On 11/6/2020 at 3:26 PM, Tuco said:

I like Pete for Secretary of Defense.  Some might scoff at his McKinsey resume, but I like it for the position.  Sure, there is a lot of bullshit in the consulting industry, but they keep making money for a reason.  And, you know the DoD uses that type of analysis, so it would be good to have someone who knows what goes into the analysis to recognize flaws, misses, and bullshit.  The DoD is one of our biggest annual costs, and if there is going to be any meaningful budget control, it will need to be approached from a business management approach. Since he was a consultant prior to his stint in the military, you know that's the lens he viewed his service.  I bet he had a list of improvements to make before he ever went into politics.  Unlike some SoD with military experience, his service is really recent - just six years ago.  But, he is also very much a civilian.  I don't see the point of having a general in the role.  There are plenty of generals in the Pentagon that can provide that perspective.  And, I think he is fully committed to getting us out of perpetual war, and he has the experience to challenge the obstacles to that goal that others may present. 

The negative is that I think it would damage his career.  You can't make meaningful changes without getting a lot hate thrown your way.  

I thought about this as well, but his lack of international is an issue. It is a role he could grow into, but not right away. Wrote on a previous post Veterans Affairs. He would bring the compassion and understanding which the department needs. He could also be sent to NATO where he would be a good fit.

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Progressives need to be preparing right now to challenge Republican incumbents AND establishment Democrats in 2022 and to do it vigorously. Biden won the primary with about 52% of the vote, and a TON of that had nothing at all to do with his politics or beliefs, so there was no mandate coming from Democratic voters for a half-Republican administration who will govern from the center-right.

The vigorousness with which we fight this internal civil war is 100% up to Joe at this point. The media talking heads will left-bash non-stop no matter what, and we have to ignore them.

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The pandemic worked to republicans advantages down ballot though because they didn’t change how they campaigned. No way dawn buckingham (my state senator) wins by 30 points in western Travis without a pandemic. The progressive organizations I am affiliated with the grassroots movement were eviscerated based on adjustments made to the GOTV campaigns. I think the blue wave could be present in two years - it shouldn’t be historically but I wouldn’t count it out yet.

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20 hours ago, RCRanger03 said:

I think Stacey Abrams will get a spot somewhere, it would be a huge snub not to. Warren's needed in the Senate. 

State - Susan Rice

Treasury - Sarah Raskin

Defense -  Mattis or McRaven sound great, but probably wont. My vote is Duckworth

AG - Yates or Doug Jones with Deputy AG: Schiff

Interior - *Shrug* Infrastructure weeks all the way down. Can Jay Inslee do both this and the EPA?

Ag - Klobuchar

Commerce - Kasich or some other moderate anti-trump republican (it's gonna happen)

Labor - Yang Gang

HHS - BERNIE! Just kidding, but I have not idea. Just make it Fauci and tell him he can do whatever he wants 

HUD - Put the Castro Bros back in they can hit the ground running having done it before

Energy - Bear with me on this one. Rick Perr...... I can't even do it. 

VA - Pistol Pete if he didn't want Chief of Staff or UN Ambassador. Jason Kander otherwise.

Homeland - Nobody, ditch it

EPA - Jay Inslee

 

Inslee not a bad choice for Energy either, but he should get a spot.

I'd rather see Yang in Education.

Abrams should be DNC chair.

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51 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

Progressives need to be preparing right now to challenge Republican incumbents AND establishment Democrats in 2022 and to do it vigorously. Biden won the primary with about 52% of the vote, and a TON of that had nothing at all to do with his politics or beliefs, so there was no mandate coming from Democratic voters for a half-Republican administration who will govern from the center-right.

The vigorousness with which we fight this internal civil war is 100% up to Joe at this point. The media talking heads will left-bash non-stop no matter what, and we have to ignore them.

Typical, “let’s lose more races” strategy from the left. You people are just so so dumb. Hell, you can’t persuade anyone on this forum. You think we oughta unleash an army of candidates like you? Disaster 

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1 hour ago, Texaspython said:

Hell, you can’t persuade anyone on this forum. You think we oughta unleash an army of candidates like you? Disaster 

This forum is 90+% white guys with a college education and at least two pair of New Balance. What plays here isn't very relevant when trying to bring out Democratic-leaning voter bases.

Desperation to appeal to our demographic is what gave us a Trump presidency in 2016 and a near-loss in 2020. We lost ground with minorities for God's sake.

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41 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

This forum is 90+% white guys with a college education and at least two pair of New Balance. What plays here isn't very relevant when trying to bring out Democratic-leaning voter bases.

Desperation to appeal to our demographic is what gave us a Trump presidency in 2016 and a near-loss in 2020. We lost ground with minorities for God's sake.

We lost ground with minorities because they want less left. It’s silly white liberals they’re tired of.

You can’t persuade anyone on this board including me. Of course, I’m a democrat, I don’t know what you are.

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29 minutes ago, G650 said:

Uhh...

Georgia: 49.5% to 49.3%
Pennsylvania: 49.7% to 49.1%
Arizona: 49.5% to 49%
Wisconsin: 49.6% to 48.9%

Those 4 states (52 electoral votes) were decided by around 90k voters.

1 minute ago, wildcat09 said:

What progressive candidates did badly?

Omar got 64.5% of the vote
Ocasio-Cortez got 68.8%
Tlaib got 77.9%

Also curious to see the answer to this question.

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5 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

Georgia: 49.5% to 49.3%
Pennsylvania: 49.7% to 49.1%
Arizona: 49.5% to 49%
Wisconsin: 49.6% to 48.9%

Those 4 states (52 electoral votes) were decided by around 90k voters.

Omar got 64.5% of the vote
Ocasio-Cortez got 68.8%
Tlaib got 77.9%

Also curious to see the answer to this question.

It's going to be a sweeping victory. Large popular vote, second biggest since Clinton. 300+ EC. It wasn't close.

 

I noted upthread about Biden outrunning those you just listed by 5%. What happens is they primary into D strongholds, and then win by 5-10% less than a traditional D in the general. Which is fine, they win, but that shit doesn't fly in swing districts/states, and the murdering in Congress we just had bears that out.

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4 hours ago, Hank Kingsley said:

I think UN Ambassador is a good fit right now for Mayor Pete. VA is a messy job and no chance (understandably) that he would be considered for Secretary of Defense. Ronald Klain is going to be Biden's Chief of Staff.

 

 

 

Pete needs to stay domestic.  UN ambassador doesn't seem well suited.  You want him in a position to continue to go on Fox news and press your high value priorities like healthcare, jobs, stimulus.  Don't bury him at the U.N.

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19 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

Georgia: 49.5% to 49.3%
Pennsylvania: 49.7% to 49.1%
Arizona: 49.5% to 49%
Wisconsin: 49.6% to 48.9%

Those 4 states (52 electoral votes) were decided by around 90k voters.

Omar got 64.5% of the vote
Ocasio-Cortez got 68.8%
Tlaib got 77.9%

Also curious to see the answer to this question.

You quote safe dem districts? Look no further than Candace Valenzuela. We had a great candidate in Kim Olson who Candace was meaner and nastier to than her general opponent. Left wing candidates lost toss up races everywhere because they didn’t get tough enough on the riots.

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4 minutes ago, G650 said:

It's going to be a sweeping victory. Large popular vote, second biggest since Clinton. 300+ EC. It wasn't close.

Popular vote doesn't matter in this election and you know that; that's a perception and marketing concept. A good tool to sell people on the strength of the party and such, but if you're an internal player and you get high on your own supply you're insane and hurting the party.

There were 146,028,789 total votes cast.
Those 4 determinative swing states were determined by 91,480 votes

The deciding ~10% of the EC ended up being determined by .00063% of the electorate

Joe Biden should've cake-walked this shit on Tuesday night. We should've woken up Wednesday morning to the relieved liberal media coronation we're seeing today. The fact that it was so close SHOULD worry us. If it doesn't worry you, you're either an idiot or a Republican glad to see that the Democrats remain incompetent. You can decide which one fits you.

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I noted upthread about Biden outrunning those you just listed by 5%. What happens is they primary into D strongholds, and then win by 5-10% less than a traditional D in the general. Which is fine, they win, but that shit doesn't fly in swing districts/states, and the murdering in Congress we just had bears that out.

Did actual progressive candidates lose in swing districts/states at a higher rate than anti-progressives? Centrists/anti-progressives losing their races doesn't say anything about the strength of progressive candidates. It just shows the weakness of the candidate who lost.

I agree that some centrist voters in swing districts are turned off by Defund rhetoric. I 100% agree with that. 

I also think that some progressive voters are turned off by "nothing's going to change" rhetoric.

There are problems. There are difficulties. Win anyway.

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He may be from the 'white guy' category, but I like the lawyer, Daniel Goldman. Very well spoken. Also am fond of Val Demings, who was aces during the Impeachment inquiry, and Ro Khanna, although I know less about him other than his tenure with the Dept of Commerce. I don't know w/respect to the Cabinet as there are only so many spots, and I don't get to say(!) but I hope that they all can continue to contribute with their strengths.

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1 minute ago, bad_teammate said:

I agree that some centrist voters in swing districts are turned off by Defund rhetoric. I 100% agree with that. 

I also think that some progressive voters are turned off by "nothing's going to change" rhetoric.

There are problems. There are difficulties. Win anyway.

Hey I'm with you, but it's important to recognize. As @Bozo_Casanova and someone else I'm forgetting the biggest D issue right now is nationalizing the fuck out of everything instead of localizing to peoples desires. Well that and delivering on policy.

 

The national popular vote does matter. It tells you what most of the country thinks, even with the fucked up EC.

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1 minute ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

He may be from the 'white guy' category, but I like the lawyer, Daniel Goldman. Very well spoken. Also am fond of Val Demings, who was aces during the Impeachment inquiry, and Ro Khanna, although I know less about him other than his tenure with the Dept of Commerce. I don't know w/respect to the Cabinet as there are only so many spots, and I don't get to say(!) but I hope that they all can continue to contribute with their strengths.

I love Val Demmings

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3 minutes ago, Texaspython said:

Look no further than Candace Valenzuela. We had a great candidate in Kim Olson who Candace was meaner and nastier to than her general opponent.

24th Results

2020: Valenzuela got 47.5% of the vote in a year when Republicans overperformed (2020) and lost by 1.3%
2018: In the great blue wave the Democratic candidate in the 24th got... 47.5%  and lost by 3.1%
2016: The Democratic candidate got 39.3% and lost by 16.9%
2014: The Democratic candidate got 32.3% and lost by by 32.8%

The backup QB syndrome for Olson... whatever.

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27 minutes ago, swraith said:

Pete needs to stay domestic.  UN ambassador doesn't seem well suited.  You want him in a position to continue to go on Fox news and press your high value priorities like healthcare, jobs, stimulus.  Don't bury him at the U.N.

I think he could handle VA. Won't any worse than anyone else. He is a good administrator, shows compassion, and can lead a team. At least he can keep the VA's problems out there vs. being hidden. Talk shows, etc. 

Agree about UN though. Afraid he would see it all from his military perspective vs. that of a diplomat. And I think he needs to be allowed to grow.

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5 minutes ago, Texaspython said:

You quote safe dem districts? Look no further than Candace Valenzuela. We had a great candidate in Kim Olson who Candace was meaner and nastier to than her general opponent. Left wing candidates lost toss up races everywhere because they didn’t get tough enough on the riots.

Moderate Dems lost too.

Of the 38 "red to blue" candidates the DCCC pushed, one has won and two are in close vote counts.  35 lost.  Some of them were progressive.  Some of them were moderate. 

In NE-1, Kate Bolz was a moderate candidate.  She is currently in the Neb Unicameral, and voted for a piece of shit abortion bill.  She was decently funded.  She lost by 22 points, which was 7 points behind Biden. In 2018, a practically unfunded candidate with little campaign staff lost the same district by 21 points. Donna Shalala is a moderate and she lost her election despite being an incumbent. 

No matter how you cut it, there was a headwind against Democratic candidates.  Progressive or Moderate was irrelevant.  My guess is there was considerable Trumpster turnout which voted against Dems, while enough of the more traditional Republican split their tickets - Biden + Rs.  There may have also been enough independent voters who went Biden+Rs.  

 

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23 minutes ago, DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt said:

Just picturing the blood pressure spike @Johnny Sack, @TtomTerrific, @tjhooker and the rest of the mouthbreathing Trumptards have when reading this thread gives me the biggest smile.

I hope you realize that Tom's gonna read this and then go to your house and kick your ass buddy! 

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