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On 11/24/2021 at 7:53 PM, Ag with kids said:

 

a) don’t be a coward.

 

Fuck you.  I tried posting on here for just a few weeks and realized this place is basically a burnt orange DemocraticUnderground.  I am glad that the posters here have refrained from neg repping me during this conversation.  It took me a year and a half of posting only on Food & Travel to get positive.

 

ii) the cool thing is, I don’t have to guess. They literally published something that told us exactly what they think. It said, functionally, “whatever Trump wants.” Seriously, that was the stated party platform.

 

[url=https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/2016-republican-party-platform]The 2016 Republican Party platform[/url]

 

So, with the same candidate on the ballot, they didn’t change the platform?  What’s your point?

 

3) you want some? Ok - hollering about immigrants as the cause of literally all of our problems.

 

Drugs? The economy? COVID? Blame immigrants!

 

Well, Republicans DON’T do that, but maybe you’re listening to the wrong echo chamber.

 

But wait, they don’t have a problem with LEGAL immigrants, just illegals. Wait, what’s that, they then shifted the goalposts and are working like hell to cut off legal immigration, too?

 

This is incorrect.

 

Nazis marching in Charlottesville are good people? Supporters literally yelling “heil Trump?”

 

WTF?  So if a psycho asshole says BRISKETEXAN IS MY HERO, then you’re guilty for anything he does?

 

An orchestrated campaign to delegitimize all media that doesn’t blindly support the regime, using the exact “lugenpresse” play the Nazis ran? Come on, man. This is going to get even more embarrassing for you, because I have 100 more of these.

IV) funny thing….Godwin himself said “nope, it’s cool, compare them to Nazis, it fits.”

 

HAHAHA. Yeah… the Republicans/right control the media.  Torbush…

 

Some of us have read a book or two. We know the plays and systems that authoritarians run on their rise to power, including the Nazis. And we’ve watched, with horror, as they’re being run again, right here at home. Even including the brown shirts and a violent attack on the legitimate government. Remember that one? That’s what your party has wrought. And do they own it, and try to make good? No. They double down.

 

I read books too.

 

1984

 

A Day In The Life Of Ivan Denisovitch

 

The Gulag Archepeligo

 

They call terrorists who literally attacked the heart of my government “tourists.” They fight any investigation or accountability.

 

Nah…they’re an “idea”.

 

Because all of the attacks on federal buildings for 2 years where they destroyed and burned property and all the personnel had to evacuate was not a big deal - because the right wasn’t doing it.

 

If you stand with a party that supports those things, or the the better LEAST…those aren’t dealbreakers for you….then I know all I need to know about you.

 

Don’t know what party you stand with but I don’t stand with that stuff…

 

I am a patriotic american. I love my country. And I hate - and I mean hate - those who attack it, and those who support, enable, and excuse them. You may as well be supporting, enabling, and excusing Al Qaeda.

 

I mean, if you want to know which “conservative values” I still hold dear, and why they mean that I hate the Republicans and those who support them. You fucking asked. I’m telling.

 

Hey…support your version of fascism.  I’ll just disagree with you.

 

 

On 11/24/2021 at 8:34 PM, Ag with kids said:

No...that claim was from Brisketexan....saying that's what Republicans espouse.  He put a bunch of claims into his diatribe.  Sorry I didn't answer every single one.

But then you haven't answered squat....

 

On 11/25/2021 at 1:28 PM, Ag with kids said:

I really wonder...do y'all actually believe that?  Or is it like all the politicians that claim that because they know it's a great political hammer that the useful idiots will glom onto?

Shay's Rebellion - THAT was an open violent insurrection.  With lots of weapons.

Jan 6th?  - Bunch of dumbass tourons wandering through the Capital building taking selfies.  But, OVERTHROWING the government?  Shouldn't they have brought a lot of weapons to do that?  Like some F-15s and nukes?

 

On 11/25/2021 at 1:37 PM, Ag with kids said:

I posted this earlier but maybe it got lost.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/brian-sicknick-capitol-riot-died-natural-causes/

The Capitol Policeman, Brian Sicknick, died of natural causes according to the Medical Examiner.

As to "armed insurrection", there was the shaman dude with a flag on a spear...and...what others?  Now, Shay's Rebellion...THAT was an armed insurrection.

I'm going to guess 99.99% showed up at the Capitol because they were mad...with maybe a small number of dumbshits that wanted to (and actually thought they could) stop them from certifying results.

 

On 11/25/2021 at 1:51 PM, Ag with kids said:

"to disrupt the counting of the electoral votes" != overthrowing the government. It's a bunch of dumbasses being dumbasses.

And the vast majority had no interest in that at all - even the most visible member of that event (the shaman) just wandered around taking selfies and the podium...

 

On 11/25/2021 at 2:33 PM, Ag with kids said:

Can you show this video from Jan 6th?

And I'm still amused since from Nov 2016 there was a cry that Trump had stolen the election because of Russian collusion.  Complete with multiple investigations.  Which has now been shown to be completely fabricated by Democrats...but, now the left is pure and pristine and any questions about the 2020 election is treason.

I'm an American, too, btw.  And I oppose those that attack my country.  And I don't wish to fundamentally change it like many apparently do - which would include you if you vote for Democrats.

 

 

On 11/25/2021 at 6:32 PM, Ag with kids said:

Yes.

Now.  Did Hillary Clinton and the vast majority of the Democratic Party lie about Russian collusion?

Figured we might as well consolidate all your lies into one post.

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1 minute ago, JimmyJames said:

I dunno. I’m starting to think this ag with kids guy is a total idiot. 

Fox News+Texags+meth will rot your brain. It is funny to seem him get more and more hyper the later it becomes. “If you listen to my texags talking points you have to agree with me. You have to. It is impossible to not agree with me”. 

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I will answer one of his questions. 

Did Hillary lie and the vast majority of the Republican Party lie about Russian collusion? No


Definition of Collusion: secret or illegal cooperation or conspiracy, especially in order to cheat or deceive others.

Paul Manafort passed internal Trump campaign polling and strategy information to Russian intelligence services

 

 

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Land o' Goshen. I step away for two days to bake pies and be festive and convivial and come back to discover ten pages of the last four years writ large. Pretty sure I spotted Fonzi on water skis about five or six pages back.

 

Regardless of which institution you attended, (looking at AgwithKids), get over being a sugar cookie.

 

"If you want to change the world: make your bed, find someone to help you through life, respect everyone, know that life is not fair and you will fail often, take some risks, step up when times are the toughest, face down the bullies, lift up the downtrodden, and never ever give up." --William McRaven, in a brilliant speech.

And to quote one of my favorite versions of a beautiful tale: have courage and be kind. One thing Cinderella, or at least Charles Perrault, knew was the power of forgiveness and it is indeed a powerful benefit for the forgiver.

Perrault, however, dealt with wicked stepmothers and not assholes, so differentiating between forgiveness as a two way understanding of a committed wrong and when to turn one's back on unrepentant repetitive behavior requires some reflection.

 

 

 

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Land o' Goshen. I step away for two days to bake pies and be festive and convivial and come back to discover ten pages of the last four years writ large. Pretty sure I spotted Fonzi on water skis about five or six pages back.
 
Regardless of which institution you attended, (looking at AgwithKids), get over being a sugar cookie.
 
"If you want to change the world: make your bed, find someone to help you through life, respect everyone, know that life is not fair and you will fail often, take some risks, step up when times are the toughest, face down the bullies, lift up the downtrodden, and never ever give up." --William McRaven, in a brilliant speech.
And to quote one of my favorite versions of a beautiful tale: have courage and be kind. One thing Cinderella, or at least Charles Perrault, knew was the power of forgiveness and it is indeed a powerful benefit for the forgiver.
Perrault, however, dealt with wicked stepmothers and not assholes, so differentiating between forgiveness as a two way understanding of a committed wrong and when to turn one's back on unrepentant repetitive behavior requires some reflection.
 
 
 

See, but what you have to understand, is McRaven is a pussy libtard.
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On 11/26/2021 at 9:38 AM, slorch said:

I feel the same way, but for me it's been since W was in office.  We went from not having true conservative candidates to following a total clown show.  It's fucked up.

The people I know who support today's GOp 100% are generally Trump all the way.  I don't equate them with necessarily being conservatives.   In fact, I see them more as radical right wingers, if you can appreciate the difference there.

Get ready to be called a pinko commie leftist libtard 

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21 hours ago, Ag with kids said:

The actual Democratic Party tried to remove a POTUS so that the results of the last election were null and void.

Then, a subset of a bunch of dumbasses tried to do the same thing after the next election.

Both groups were stupid.  However, one is still in control of two thirds of the government.

I'm late to this nonsense but this deserves a neg. The fucking gall to equate a violent coup to attempting to lawfully remove a Republican president (because he committed horrible crimes) and replace him with another Republican. Fuck you you aggy trash.

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1 minute ago, wildcat09 said:

I'm late to this nonsense but this deserves a neg. The fucking gall to equate a violent coup to attempting to lawfully remove a Republican president (because he committed horrible crimes) and replace him with another Republican. Fuck you you aggy trash.

Hey now if you completely ignore the meaning of the word “overthrow”, they are exactly the same.

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7 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

I'm late to this nonsense but this deserves a neg. The fucking gall to equate a violent coup to attempting to lawfully remove a Republican president (because he committed horrible crimes) and replace him with another Republican. Fuck you you aggy trash.

See?  Nothing but insults.

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23 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

I'm late to this nonsense but this deserves a neg. The fucking gall to equate a violent coup to attempting to lawfully remove a Republican president (because he committed horrible crimes) and replace him with another Republican. Fuck you you aggy trash.

I can't decide whether it's more like asking Hitler's ghost to write a history book, or like trying to teach an aardvark long division.

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34 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

I'm late to this nonsense but this deserves a neg. The fucking gall to equate a violent coup to attempting to lawfully remove a Republican president (because he committed horrible crimes) and replace him with another Republican. Fuck you you aggy trash.

C’mon, both sides!  One dude beating his own flagpole, the other beating a cop with a flagpole!

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1 hour ago, Ag with kids said:

Cool...

@PenelopeWitherspoon Neg repped me 31 straight times.  That's gotta be some kinda record or something.

That's some serious rent free living.xD

If AWK were pressed, he’d go with the performance art defense. It’s what the radical nutbars from the dishonest chorus do when their backs finally hit a wall.

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6 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

 

7 hours ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

Land o' Goshen. I step away for two days to bake pies and be festive and convivial and come back to discover ten pages of the last four years writ large. Pretty sure I spotted Fonzi on water skis about five or six pages back.

 

Regardless of which institution you attended, (looking at AgwithKids), get over being a sugar cookie.

 

"If you want to change the world: make your bed, find someone to help you through life, respect everyone, know that life is not fair and you will fail often, take some risks, step up when times are the toughest, face down the bullies, lift up the downtrodden, and never ever give up." --William McRaven, in a brilliant speech.

And to quote one of my favorite versions of a beautiful tale: have courage and be kind. One thing Cinderella, or at least Charles Perrault, knew was the power of forgiveness and it is indeed a powerful benefit for the forgiver.

Perrault, however, dealt with wicked stepmothers and not assholes, so differentiating between forgiveness as a two way understanding of a committed wrong and when to turn one's back on unrepentant repetitive behavior requires some reflection.

I think that's all great advice.  And I try to live like that.

In fact, I lost my temper yesterday with one poster so I'd like to formally apologize to @hobbes2702 for saying "fuck you" to him.  No matter what, I try to be respectful, but I wasn't then.  Mea Culpa.

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5 hours ago, babysdaddy said:

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I don’t know. Do you still identify as an R? A supporters of active terrorism against our Republic?

Edited to suggest you might also be intellectually dishonest, like @Ag with kids, who has not acknowledged the difference between impeachment and insurrection.

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Lol.  These morons do not understand.  I refuse to engage their idiocy.  It isn’t worth my time.  It doesn’t register to these idiots that TFG tried to invalidate the results of an election, a free and fair election.  He and his alcolytes tried to disrupt the peaceful transition of power.  And yet, what these assholes get upset about is rep on a fucking internet message board.  
 

Stop engaging these asshats and neg them into oblivion.   They have zero concept of the truth or reality.

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33 minutes ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

Stop engaging these asshats and neg them into oblivion.   They have zero concept of the truth or reality.

I typically reserve neg repping for outrageously offensive material, or for people who complain about neg rep. But I am beginning to get so tired of people acting all innocent about posting antidemocratic horseshit that I definitely see where you are coming from.

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18 hours ago, Willfully Horn said:

If AWK were pressed, he’d go with the performance art defense. It’s what the radical nutbars from the dishonest chorus do when their backs finally hit a wall.

He's using the persecuted victim strategy. Chapter 1, page 1 of the GOP playbook.

"I tried to engage in an honest debate with data and replies but they insulted me. I kept asking them if they were going to call me racist/nazi/fascist and even though no one did, I know they wanted to."

When you can't win on the logic/merits then obfuscate, play the victim, and retreat to a safe space. It's a coward's strategy but it works. 

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I don’t know. Do you still identify as an R? A supporters of active terrorism against our Republic?
Edited to suggest you might also be intellectually dishonest, like [mention=2294]Ag with kids[/mention], who has not acknowledged the difference between impeachment and insurrection.

No, I do not. I voted for dems in 2020 and 2018. Does that mean I’m allowed to mock fucking idiots?

And awk is clearly a troll that pulled you dolts offsides. Although maybe that’s ok give this thread was started in bad faith
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6 hours ago, Willfully Horn said:

I don’t know. Do you still identify as an R? A supporters of active terrorism against our Republic?

Edited to suggest you might also be intellectually dishonest, like @Ag with kids, who has not acknowledged the difference between impeachment and insurrection.

The only dishonesty @babysdaddy is guilty of is his handicap index. 

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3 hours ago, Walden Ponderer said:

I typically reserve neg repping for outrageously offensive material, or for people who complain about neg rep. But I am beginning to get so tired of people acting all innocent about posting antidemocratic horseshit that I definitely see where you are coming from.

 

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1 hour ago, DDD Dad said:

AWK appears to be attempting suicide by troll. 

Not to worry. The DT crew like sack and immortal are on the case giving him positive rep all over the place in order to save his soul from purgatory. 
 

The surly rep wars have reached a stalemate. 

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3 hours ago, babysdaddy said:


No, I do not. I voted for dems in 2020 and 2018. Does that mean I’m allowed to mock fucking idiots?

And awk is clearly a troll that pulled you dolts offsides. Although maybe that’s ok give this thread was started in bad faith

Doltish me could not recall any position of yours on any subject. I appreciate the clear answer. 
 

What that means is you’re not the total psycho which your post brought into question.

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