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Sure as hell not that hideous color though

I know of one in all black for sale cheap. Even the taillights

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little bump...buying in the next few weeks.  narrowed it to altima, mazda 6, kia optima and ford fusion.  looking 2014-2016.  im guessing those are all good enough?  they all have 5* crash ratings.  also found a 1992 eddie bauer bronco for the youngest, im buying it and enjoying it for a year before he gets it.  
So no go on a truck? Seems like an Altima is a weird car for a kid, but hey, I live in the TXK.

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The anti collision safety features now are pretty impressive. There are several cars with zero fatalities. I’d be looking at those.

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^ 1983 IROC-Z28 with t-tops was my first car. I saved up minimum wage jobs and paid $2000 for it. It had a glorious 18 month run until Harris County implemented emissions testing. Had to sell the old bird for $1500 and buy a boring 10 year old Accord. I’ve owned Honda’s and Toyota’s ever since. 

I’m more than a decade away from having to make this decision for my boys, but if it were today I’d be looking at 8-10 year old Rangers or Tacoma for small truck or Civic or Corolla for small cars, maybe Accord or Fusion if it was a good deal. It’s going to get dinged up and you probably don’t want to pay for full coverage on insurance that would cost you more than the car after 24 months, so getting something that can be replaced without serious cash outlay is nice. 

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Buy your kid the cheapest used pickup truck you can find. Let them drive it for a few years and they'll thank you if they transition into a car.

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Nothing sporty, nothing small. Set your budget and make safety rating the first factor.  I spent about 10K on an F150 for one kid and the same on the other for a VolvoXC90 (Mommobile). Would do again. Both had accidents, but nothing major.  They weren't the coolest kids in school, but they had transportation.

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the 92 bronco is totally awesome, but a totally shitty kid car.   Gas hog, top heavy, and they will drive it to stupid places because they believe it can go to stupid places.

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On 8/25/2019 at 12:12 AM, Gil Bang said:

the 92 bronco is totally awesome, but a totally shitty kid car.   Gas hog, top heavy, and they will drive it to stupid places because they believe it can go to stupid places.

The flip machine that ended the Bronco and introduced rollover ratings.

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NSIAP, but I might try to find a manual transmission for them. Like a basic Honda Civic or something.

Probably not as important as it used to be, but still a good skill to have, maybe.

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3 hours ago, BillyBadAss said:

NSIAP, but I might try to find a manual transmission for them. Like a basic Honda Civic or something.

Probably not as important as it used to be, but still a good skill to have, maybe.

particularly when you need to rent a car in Europe. 

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Im going to get an older shelby or something to satisfy my mid-life crisis, they learn manual shifting with that. 

 

Pretty sure I'm going with what i mentioned earlier.  Neither give a shit what they drive and school/wrestling are the only places they go and both are a couple miles from the house.  I am curious about getting liability only coverage.  I dont see why I wouldnt do that, right?  Wouldnt that save significant $$? 

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21 hours ago, Gil Bang said:

particularly when you need to rent a car in Europe. 

Classic cars and Europe will be the only manuals soon. Now that manuals have dropped to 2% of US sales most manufacturers are dropping them here. 

Edited by ShaggyBevo RIP

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https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/cars+between+1+and+6500/Lincoln/Town+Car/Austin+TX-78702?makeCodeList=LINC&searchRadius=400&modelCodeList=LINCTC&zip=78702&marketExtension=true&minPrice=1&maxPrice=6500&maxMileage=150000&sortBy=relevance&numRecords=25&firstRecord=0

problem solved right there

get each of them a Towncar for $5,500 or so maybe less

easy to work on, safe, ride like a dream, plenty of room in the back seat, and if you do not wreck it you can sell it down the road (probably to a particular demographic) for almost the same price since 4 door cars are more and more rare

plenty of power, but not "fast", and not the car that says "do something stupid" (besides fuck in the back seat without a condom)

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23 hours ago, Gil Bang said:

Well, 2% overall is one thing, but what about specific models?  Mustangs, for example?

Low enough that the 2020 Shelby GT500 will be auto only.  Corvette is ending manual 2020. Last year Audi gave up on manual in the US market.

https://www.automobilemag.com/news/2020-new-car-truck-suv-manual-transmission/

Edited by ShaggyBevo RIP

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On 5/15/2019 at 7:24 PM, Nueces River Rat said:

Tacos have wonderful resale values.  When I was looking for a small truck for my oldest back in 2013, I shopped everywhere for one and they were coming out anywhere from $4 to $6K over what people were asking for Nissan Frontiers or Ford Rangers.   These were 2003 to 2005 models with more than 100k miles on them and even a few were pushing 150K.  I ended up getting him the Nissan.  Heck I might get me a taco when I'm ready to downsize from my F-150 if the Ford Bronco turns out to be more like a mom vehicle vs the original thing.

See, when we Americans  get tired of them  and dealers can't sell them on their resale lots or even the mom/pop dealers forgo them at auction, they will auction  them off to overseas buyers and they will either end up on ships to Asia, Africa or the Middle East.  Or in caravans down through  Mexico where they end up in Central America.   And the seller here in the states will still make some good coin and your former Tacoma might end up with an ISIS logo on it in Syria.

 

 

 

And then they mount a .50 cal in the bed, or a 12.7mm more likely.

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On 8/28/2019 at 9:58 PM, tbone_ said:

Fucking bullshit unamerican is what that is.

 

On 8/29/2019 at 2:22 PM, ShaggyBevo RIP said:

^^^^

Automatic transmission is an American invention.

Entirely too American, I'm afraid.  

The dual-clutch automatic is a French invention, developed by the Brits and arguably perfected by Porsche.  It's the way of the future.  Those Brits are sneaky-good with electronics; not so much the manufacture, but the design concepts.

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On 2/1/2020 at 6:57 PM, William_Cannon said:


What else you got? Inventory is not great ...

Cargurus is a pretty good place to locate newer used cars.  Countless ways to narrow searches - price, mileage, features, location, etc.

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Be careful buying your kids a Jeep or Bronco for their first car. There is always a chance they might drive like l did as a teenager. I rolled a Jeep and a Volkswagen Bug and was lucky as hell to survive without a scratch.

 

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Hard to find a good clean car.  The way I have found them on Craigslist in the past is by searching multiple times a day, and searching by map, rather than list.  Actually I usually look at newest on gallery then look at the map.  I use the Map mainly because I was looking for a car that had been well maintained, that's not some bullshit small time dealer churning off the auction.  The best deals I have ever found on Craigslist was when I was the first to reply and it was usually in the first 30 minutes of the posting.  

ANY good deal will be gone in a couple hours.  

I also suggest checking with your insurance company to see what the insurance rates will be like.  I bought a Mazda CX-7 for my youngest daughter and got a great deal on it.  The Turbo engine and a 20 year old driver make it as expensive to cover monthly as my wife'e new 2020 Sonata. With two boys the insurance might be a huge factor in my model choosing. 

Just load craigslist onto your phone and search about 10 times a day until you find what you are looking for.

Edited by horn4life

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When did you urban parents start teaching your kids to drive? I grew up in the sticks and had a motorcycle at 9 and was driving a farm truck at 12. I have no idea what makes sense in austin.

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21 hours ago, CooterBrown said:

When did you urban parents start teaching your kids to drive? I grew up in the sticks and had a motorcycle at 9 and was driving a farm truck at 12. I have no idea what makes sense in austin.

My kids were both driving in the local stadium parking lot and random dirt roads at the grandparents at 12.  

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On 2/4/2020 at 11:00 AM, horn4life said:

searching by map

Never knew that was an option.  Thanks for the info.

 

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11 hours ago, Your Mom said:

My kids were both driving in the local stadium parking lot and random dirt roads at the grandparents at 12.  

Damn do they also know how much Jack to put in Papa's coke?

 

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On 2/4/2020 at 12:17 PM, CooterBrown said:

When did you urban parents start teaching your kids to drive? I grew up in the sticks and had a motorcycle at 9 and was driving a farm truck at 12. I have no idea what makes sense in austin.

Unless you've got land to let them drive on the law pretty much limits you to when they get a learner's permit at 15.

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On 2/4/2020 at 10:33 AM, Alex Karev said:

Be careful buying your kids a Jeep or Bronco for their first car. There is always a chance they might drive like l did as a teenager. I rolled a Jeep and a Volkswagen Bug and was lucky as hell to survive without a scratch.

 

How did you roll a bug? That's not easy to do. That was my first car, and I might have done stupid shit on occasion that would have caused other vehicles to roll but not the bug. 

Edited by Mack Tripper

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Took my kids to the big State Farm parking lot on I-35 when they were 15 to get the fundamentals of driving a stick shift. 
(the whiplash still bothers me)

Then they all took drivers ed at Reagan HS.

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1 hour ago, Mack Tripper said:

How did you roll a bug? That's not easy to do. That was my first car, and I might have done stupid shit on occasion that would have caused other vehicles to roll but not the bug. 

Get it up to about 40mph turn the wheels as sharp as possible and pull the hand brake. We did this on the football field.

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