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1 hour ago, linux said:

Reading up on how dangerous the flying wedge was enough to outlaw it I honestly thought it was about tossing a player over the line of scrimmage, probably the original reason why the Leach toss is banned as well you can not interlock your own teammates with your hands. Originally you could not even touch them  but then came the Bush push, but a flying wedge from players pushing a train seems as dangerous.

I've always wanted to see a goal line play where a big guy or two has some padding on his back, and the RB takes the handoff and takes about two steps up the big guys' backs and launches like he was coming off a two meter board.

I think it was Arkysaw who had a guy they used like that, called him the "High Diver" or some such - he was damned tough to stop. I also recall a game, I think it was 0U, where Shipley took a short snap on a fake punt and broad/high-jumped face-first about six yards for a 1st down.

Oh, yeah... RIP Pirate.

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3 hours ago, Drew said:

Did he break the plain first?

 

23 hours ago, NoRagrets said:

Ball security doesn’t matter as long as he breaks the plain with possession in the air. 

*Plane

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I don't know if this has been mentioned, but the defense can get their own little man who they throw into the offensive little man while he is in the air. 

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I've always wanted to see a goal line play where a big guy or two has some padding on his back, and the RB takes the handoff and takes about two steps up the big guys' backs and launches like he was coming off a two meter board.
I think it was Arkysaw who had a guy they used like that, called him the "High Diver" or some such - he was damned tough to stop. I also recall a game, I think it was 0U, where Shipley took a short snap on a fake punt and broad/high-jumped face-first about six yards for a 1st down.
Oh, yeah... RIP Pirate.

You can jump off your own players can you? I know the defense can’t. Never seen the offense try. That would make a gnarly red zone fade route.
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2 hours ago, Jkwellborn said:


You can jump off your own players can you? I know the defense can’t. Never seen the offense try. That would make a gnarly red zone fade route.

I haven't looked at all 7,588 rules, and you're prolly right, but I think it's not a foul to step on your own player but not allowed to be "launched" by that player. It would be pretty tough to call a foul in a "tush-push" type of crowd, where it appears to be fine for the QB or RB to more or less leap on top of his OL guys and be pushed/carried for the score. 

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3 hours ago, po elvis said:

I don't know if this has been mentioned, but the defense can get their own little man who they throw into the offensive little man while he is in the air. 

Why, they'd look like a bunch of Johnny-come-latelies, tossin' out their own midget... don't matter how stumpy.

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I don't know if this has been mentioned, but the defense can get their own little man who they throw into the offensive little man while he is in the air. 

Like hitting a bullet with a bullet, man. But I like the way you think, midget projectile-wise.
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19 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:


Like hitting a bullet with a bullet, man. But I like the way you think, midget projectile-wise.

Cheerleaders toss people all the time.  Get them to help work out a play where two squat defensive linemen in triple option formation hurtle some little dude at qb through space.  Think of it as an aerial qb sneak. Win.

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6 hours ago, Magus Ossis said:

Maybe a double-amputee, midget dwarf, very-early enrollee. Imagine how far you could toss him. Are stripper's monkeys eligible?

I wouldn’t bang it.

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7 hours ago, Magus Ossis said:

Maybe a double-amputee, midget dwarf, very-early enrollee. Imagine how far you could toss him. Are stripper's monkeys eligible?

No but he can be a bag in baseball.

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10 hours ago, Mdhorn said:

Cheerleaders toss people all the time.  Get them to help work out a play where two squat defensive linemen in triple option formation hurtle some little dude at qb through space.  Think of it as an aerial qb sneak. Win.

You have a good point. Why does it have to be a little person? Or even a guy?  Get one of those little bitty 90-lb cheerleaders and throw her over the pile with the ball. She doesn’t even need pads. The way the guy cheerleaders toss those little girls, I’m sure a P5 tight end could toss her all the way through the goal posts. All she has to do is break the plane. The net behind the goalposts could catch her. And she has longer arms to hold the ball in flight. 

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On 4/16/2025 at 11:41 AM, Wiler77 said:

That's fucking hilarious if true.

But I think you'd have 3 big problems:

1. Ball security.  Little arms and little hands would have trouble securing the ball.

2. Play would take too long to develop.  Picking up a 100lb human with the right grip after they take the handoff and then launching them over the line has got to take longer than a regular play.

3. I don't think you'd actually get enough momentum to get them over the top of the pile unless you did it like a hammer throw.  But then the ball security thing comes into play.

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Posted
1 hour ago, statsman said:

That rule was stupid- and besides, how did that asshole Hayden Fry get in the HoF with a poorer win %?

Was the win percent rule added after Fry was inducted in 2003? 

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ESPN ticker has been running this all day during the softball games saying that Leach, Les Miles, and Jackie Sherrill are now eligible.  K.

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ESPN ticker has been running this all day during the softball games saying that Leach, Les Miles, and Jackie Sherrill are now eligible.  K.

Keep grass eater and cheater out.
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18 hours ago, statsman said:

That rule was stupid- and besides, how did that asshole Hayden Fry get in the HoF with a poorer win %?

Bonus points for integrating the SWC and producing a coaching tree that has some of the biggest arseholes ever to coach?

Funny thing about Fry to me is that he claims the reason he got fired at SMU was because he didn't agree to go along with a booster group and cheat, but what he doesn't mention is he was there 11 years and only had 3 winning seasons.

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24 minutes ago, PGFrog said:

Bonus points for integrating the SWC and producing a coaching tree that has some of the biggest arseholes ever to coach?

Funny thing about Fry to me is that he claims the reason he got fired at SMU was because he didn't agree to go along with a booster group and cheat, but what he doesn't mention is he was there 11 years and only had 3 winning seasons.

Check your history. DKR integrated the SWC. He was AD at Texas and UT T&F integrated in 1963. 
 
(You are absolutely right about the assholes in his coaching tree. His 1984 Iowa staff is damned impressive)
 
Royal hated cheaters in recruiting. His MO was to phone a coach and tell them what he heard about recruits being offered. He would say that if they didn’t address it, he was turning them in. He turned in Fry, at SMU. Fry was so pissed off that he searched for something to turn in Texas on. 
 
He found it. He discovered that on recruiting visits, Texas would give player hosts cash to take the recruits to a steak dinner in Austin (allowed). The players were so strapped for cash that they would take the recruits for hamburgers and pocket the difference. (Does that sound like a program that is paying players?). Fry turned in Texas and Royal burned with anger (reciprocated) after. 

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6 minutes ago, statsman said:

Check your history. DKR integrated the SWC. He was AD at Texas and UT T&F integrated in 1963. 
 
(You are absolutely right about the assholes in his coaching tree. His 1984 Iowa staff is damned impressive)
 
Royal hated cheaters in recruiting. His MO was to phone a coach and tell them what he heard about recruits being offered. He would say that if they didn’t address it, he was turning them in. He turned in Fry, at SMU. Fry was so pissed off that he searched for something to turn in Texas on. 
 
He found it. He discovered that on recruiting visits, Texas would give player hosts cash to take the recruits to a steak dinner in Austin (allowed). The players were so strapped for cash that they would take the recruits for hamburgers and pocket the difference. (Does that sound like a program that is paying players?). Fry turned in Texas and Royal burned with anger (reciprocated) after. 

Fry's assistants who went on to be HC's won a number of games, conference titles, and a few NC's, but it is a collection of some of the most miserably insufferable people to walk a sideline.  Maybe you needed to be an overbearing control freak to win and do what Snyder did at KState, but there is no level of hell low enough for someone who gave us Pellini, Bielema, and the Stoops brothers. 

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5 minutes ago, statsman said:

Check your history. DKR integrated the SWC. He was AD at Texas and UT T&F integrated in 1963. 
 

Sure. Now do football. The football team didn't integrate till 1970. We were the last all-white national championship team. As a fan of Texas football, there are many accomplishment I'm proud of. Integration and racial equality in the post-civil rights era isn't on that list.

Now, Texas wasn't alone. Most of the major programs in the south didn't integrate until the late 60s or early 70s, with LSU and Georgia being the last teams in the SEC to integrate in 1972/1973. So at least we're not Georgia and LSU. But still. This isn't our strongest argument. 

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Leach would have kept DKR or Fry on the phone for 3 days, just talking about Geronimo and Hawaii.

a story about TSO from one of his players:
"After he was done, we started talking and I said, 'Hey Coach, who was that on the phone? ' "And he said, 'Oh, they had the wrong number. '” This story is not only hilarious, it reminds us all what a kind, patient people person Coach Leach was-he spent 90 minutes on the phone with a stranger.he spent 90 minutes on the phone with a stranger. he spent 90 minutes on the phone with a stranger.

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26 minutes ago, irishtexan said:

Sure. Now do football. The football team didn't integrate till 1970. We were the last all-white national championship team. As a fan of Texas football, there are many accomplishment I'm proud of. Integration and racial equality in the post-civil rights era isn't on that list.

Now, Texas wasn't alone. Most of the major programs in the south didn't integrate until the late 60s or early 70s, with LSU and Georgia being the last teams in the SEC to integrate in 1972/1973. So at least we're not Georgia and LSU. But still. This isn't our strongest argument. 

Royal explained why, when asked. People didn’t like his answer. 
 
Royal had an idea for college football that was unique. He really wanted to coach players and have them gain from the university experience. We all know how he invented “academic counseling for athletes” (he called them “brain coaches”), but there was more to it than keeping guys eligible per NCAA rules. Royal’s early teams had a phenomenal number of attorneys, judges, doctors and bankers. You didn’t have to be a genius to play for Texas, not at all, but you had to put in the academic work (and he worked with Allie’s like Professor Wright at the Law School to open doors). He bounced phenomenal athletes like Joe Don Looney and Bob Young because they wouldn’t get with the academic program. 
 
Royal was candid about recruiting African Americans. He pointed out that segregated schools in Texas sucked, bad, and weren’t preparing kids for UT. Does anyone disagree? He said the pool of African American recruits for UT was small, and they were very sought after. It’s not a secret that he was trying to integrate football for four years before he was successful. 
 
We all know that the 1969 varsity was all white (Whittier was on the freshman team). It wouldn’t have been if his first African American recruit, a LB, had not flunked out. Whittier was a solid player; he also became an attorney and a judge, which is not a coincidence. 
 
Over time, Royal adapted his program to be more like the others. Also, integration improved education for African Americans in Texas. The point is- there was more to the story than what hustlers like Switzer like to say. 

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I always like how the security guard/cop comes and restrains the SMU cheerleader, not the dipshit brandishing the deadly fucking weapon.

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33 minutes ago, tbone_ said:

I always like how the security guard/cop comes and restrains the SMU cheerleader, not the dipshit brandishing the deadly fucking weapon.

Counterpoint: when was the last time an ag successfully posed any threat to anyone who was not standing under a poorly designed stack of logs?

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6 hours ago, Magus Ossis said:

Counterpoint: when was the last time an ag successfully posed any threat to anyone who was not standing under a poorly designed stack of logs?

Rick Perry was in charge of America's nukes for a bit.

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14 hours ago, tbone_ said:

I always like how the security guard/cop comes and restrains the SMU cheerleader, not the dipshit brandishing the deadly fucking weapon.

It shows how much the authorities have changed.  During a somewhat less than brawl level fight after Mich-Ohio St, the cops ran out and used pepper spray on the Michigan players. 

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On 6/4/2025 at 7:50 PM, Texas Jeff said:

Rick Perry was in charge of America's nukes for a bit.

And the freaking Aggies gave all the nuclear secrets away to the Qataris. 

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On 5/29/2025 at 10:15 AM, Dutch said:

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Bout time. The Pirate deserves to be in the Hall; he undeniably had an impact on the game. On the field and during press conferences. 

 

Such a jewel to humanity the Pirate was!

Hook’em!!!

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