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Soros is a calamari appetizer compared to the army of Kraken behind Trump but at least it's an intersectional movement that includes gentile and non-gentile billionaires. Progress!

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52 minutes ago, CTC2 said:

People are really sensitive about pointing fingers over in the rain thread, but it seems like to me that Texas government is pretty much like the federal government. They put their best people on the grift and the worst on policy and governance. 

patricia says the gutted noaa told all of the counties and cities they were about to get a 27-foot wall of water

leaders of cities and counties say nay

kxan requesting all comms

wouldn't dare post this over in the dt feels thread but this shaping to be a popcorn-consuming event

probably should be in the leopards thread but that would be cruel to the maga families who lost kids

https://www.kxan.com/investigations/federal-forecast-concerns-surface-in-texas-deadly-flooding-debate/

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psa: lake medina sits at 2.9%, the top of the dam is 1076', and these deaths took place at 1900', so it remains comical that we do not have a giant flood control system for these hill country rivers that do this once every 10 years

i was laying in bed at 2am watching the system sit in place and rotate - it was a tight, 50-mile wide miniature hurricane and looked exactly like the blanco event from 15 which i also watched live on the radar

maybe wheels and paxton can hire some fascist cruelty iterns to take turns watching the kxan radar - that's all it would have taken to save 50 dead kids

/leopards

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17 minutes ago, Hagbard Celine said:

psa: lake medina sits at 2.9%, the top of the dam is 1076', and these deaths took place at 1900', so it remains comical that we do not have a giant flood control system for these hill country rivers that do this once every 10 years

i was laying in bed at 2am watching the system sit in place and rotate - it was a tight, 50-mile wide miniature hurricane and looked exactly like the blanco event from 15 which i also watched live on the radar

maybe wheels and paxton can hire some fascist cruelty iterns to take turns watching the kxan radar - that's all it would have taken to save 50 dead kids

/leopards

They say Waffle House has a dedicated weather monitoring team

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1 hour ago, chainsaw said:

Every preventable tragedy is partly caused by a pervasive culture among political and media figures that, in the past, stigmatized discussing exactly what should be discussed, that stigmatized advocating exactly what should be advocated, and that stigmatized spending political capital exactly when and on exactly what political capital should be spent.

Every single person who participates in "This is not the time and place" culture is standing in the way of saving lives in the future. I hope we remember that when (not if) this happens again.

Agreed.  Same can be said for Uvalde?  Sutherland Springs?  Santa Fe?     But there is a faction that continues to deny that guns kill people, and that our climate isn't affected by humans.  

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On 6/30/2025 at 5:25 PM, Brisketexan said:

Was just having that conversation with someone who was much closer to Republican inside circles than I ever was.  Conversation ended with "When Abbott took over for Perry, did you ever imagine how badly you'd be longing for the return to the relatively decent and benign reign of Perry?"

I'd kneecap any 10 Surly posters if it would get Rick Perry back in the governor's mansion.

I mean, I'd also probably kneecap any 10 Surly posters just because we've all got it coming, but still....

 

On 6/30/2025 at 5:51 PM, Bozo_Casanova said:

I think I’ve told you this before, but I would make Rick Perry Governor for life if it saved us one month of Greg Abbott. He’s the worst governor we have ever had, and no one is close. 

Both of you are missing the obvious catch here.  Perry of 15 years ago was way better than the current shit heaps, but I bet Perry today would be every bit as terrible as Hot Wheels now that he knows there will be no accountability for anything.

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2 hours ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

Both of you are missing the obvious catch here.  Perry of 15 years ago was way better than the current shit heaps, but I bet Perry today would be every bit as terrible as Hot Wheels now that he knows there will be no accountability for anything.

I honestly don’t think that’s true. I’m not going to praise Rick Perry but he’s a real person with core values and cares about outcomes. Greg Abbott has a hole inside he has tried to fill by getting to the next thing. They are different.

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2 hours ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Fair. So who’d they vote for?

Kerr County:

Donald J. Trump 76.8%

Kamala Harris 22.4%

Most Mystic campers are going to be from affluent areas, so it's not guaranteed, but a decent percentage of Trumpists.

13 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

I honestly don’t think that’s true. I’m not going to praise Rick Perry but he’s a real person with core values and cares about outcomes. Greg Abbott has a hole inside he has tried to fill by getting to the next thing. They are different.

Trump has a way of coring those people out.  Eating out their substance.

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6 minutes ago, Michael Knight said:

Texas will do absolutely nothing

This is offensive. Stop. Do you have any idea how high Ted and Heidi are lifting them up in prayer? Still think they're doing nothing?

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13 hours ago, Michael Knight said:

The only thing I'm confident about is Texas will do absolutely nothing and voters will forget about it in a week

Wrong. In addition to thoughts and prayers, we never forget.

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Special session coming up in July. I'm sure there will be a nicely worded joint resolution honoring those who died.

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17 hours ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

I honestly don’t think that’s true. I’m not going to praise Rick Perry but he’s a real person with core values and cares about outcomes. Greg Abbott has a hole inside he has tried to fill by getting to the next thing. They are different.

when bastrop was burning one of the 10-tankers was sitting on the runway in california for 18 hours waiting for perry to sign the paperwork for the aggy forest service to rent the plane

he was in new jersey (get a rope) campaigning for potus and houses burned for an extra day until he got back for his presser where he could sign the paperwork on tv

by the time the plane got to bergstrom the next day the fire was out - 500 more houses and 1000 head trapped at the river burned for his bullshit - aggy forest service paid $1.2M for the logistics to move the chem to bergstrom which was then flown back to cal unused

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The freeze and outage. Uvalde. Kerrville. These are all policy SUCCESSES. That’s what you call it when systems function as designed.
This is Texas, the Republican dream. The frozen, shot, and drowned dead Texans are what tell you it’s working.
The more dead Texans, the better we’re doing. It’s simple math.

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9 minutes ago, bluto said:

Fuvk ya, Ana here to set us straight. 

I am pretty comfortable with that assessment after reading the posts here. 

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2 hours ago, Cap33 said:

Special session coming up in July. I'm sure there will be a nicely worded joint resolution honoring those who died.

 

2 hours ago, Pato del Muerto said:

And thanking god that it wasn’t worse. 

Some in state govt will pat themselves on the back that their actions prevented more from dying. Of course in reality, the best we can hope is when the state govt stays out of the way.

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24 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

Politics has absolutely broken some of y'all. 

Do you think that the elected leadership at the statewide and Federal level in the aftermath of this tragedy has been adequate and appropriate? Serious question. 

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5 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Do you think that the elected leadership at the statewide and Federal level in the aftermath of this tragedy has been adequate and appropriate? Serious question. 

Why? 

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6 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Do you think that the elected leadership at the statewide and Federal level in the aftermath of this tragedy has been adequate and appropriate? Serious question. 

You're not going to get a serious answer

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37 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Do you think that the elected leadership at the statewide and Federal level in the aftermath of this tragedy has been adequate and appropriate? Serious question. 

So you agree with the tone of the posts here. I guess that is fine. Feel free to compare and contrast the management in objective terms of the current tragedy with state and federal government responses to any number of prior flash flood events in Central Texas (say 2015, or go for 1987, 1998, plenty to pick from) or other natural disasters in other states (HA, NC, CA , just off the top of my head). Jesus Bozo, don't be a clown. Not everything is just broken brained politics. 

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47 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

So you agree with the tone of the posts here. I guess that is fine. Feel free to compare and contrast the management in objective terms of the current tragedy with state and federal government responses to any number of prior flash flood events in Central Texas (say 2015, or go for 1987, 1998, plenty to pick from) or other natural disasters in other states (HA, NC, CA , just off the top of my head). Jesus Bozo, don't be a clown. Not everything is just broken brained politics. 

Jesus. Way to duck the question. Here’s where I’m at:

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20 minutes ago, royiv said:

Nailed it.

Yep. Well there’s always next time. And the time after that, ad infinitum. 

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On 7/5/2025 at 2:14 PM, Hagbard Celine said:

patricia says the gutted noaa told all of the counties and cities they were about to get a 27-foot wall of water

leaders of cities and counties say nay

kxan requesting all comms

wouldn't dare post this over in the dt feels thread but this shaping to be a popcorn-consuming event

probably should be in the leopards thread but that would be cruel to the maga families who lost kids

https://www.kxan.com/investigations/federal-forecast-concerns-surface-in-texas-deadly-flooding-debate/

Local fucking weather had 15–17 inches predicted on Wednesday within 70 miles as the crow flies (and rain covering the region). The NWS gave a warning at 1am, no one did a god damned thing. There’s no rocket science here. It’s plain as fucking day. Abject failure up and down the line. It’s not even debatable. 

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2 minutes ago, troph said:

Local fucking weather had 15–17 inches predicted on Wednesday within 70 miles as the crow flies (and rain covering the region). The NWS gave a warning at 1am, no one did a god damned thing. There’s no rocket science here. It’s plain as fucking day. Abject failure up and down the line. It’s not even debatable. 

Yep. At the camp level, I don’t know what is supposed to happen, but my instinct is that with 800 female kids in one area especially you’d have one or more people on active roving patrol all night long for any number of predatory issues as well as just problems that occur at night with that many kids in one place.  On top of that, the camp should have been aware of the overnight flood watch and been on heightened alert and listening to radio or otherwise getting weather updates, and been ready to take action. It’s difficult to believe any of this happened, but we will see eventually. 
 

then there’s the local government response. This one is tougher, because it’s not their job to go door to door to make sure everyone is aware. But theee seems to be an extended time delay between the flood warnings and city/county broadcasting of them. And there’s no phone tree for certain areas- especially the places with large congregations of people?  You claim you know that you are in flash flood alley and are no stranger to floods- and you know you don’t have the siren warning system- so what is your procedure?

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2 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Yep. At the camp level, I don’t know what is supposed to happen, but my instinct is that with 800 female kids in one area especially you’d have one or more people on active roving patrol all night long for any number of predatory issues as well as just problems that occur at night with that many kids in one place.  On top of that, the camp should have been aware of the overnight flood watch and been on heightened alert and listening to radio or otherwise getting weather updates, and been ready to take action. It’s difficult to believe any of this happened, but we will see eventually. 
 

then there’s the local government response. This one is tougher, because it’s not their job to go door to door to make sure everyone is aware. But theee seems to be an extended time delay between the flood warnings and city/county broadcasting of them. And there’s no phone tree for certain areas- especially the places with large congregations of people?  You claim you know that you are in flash flood alley and are no stranger to floods- and you know you don’t have the siren warning system- so what is your procedure?

100% and I wouldn’t blame the state until they started with that bullshit the other day. If I’m in charge of that camp I worry about heat injury, pedos, and floods. Local leadership, Jesus no one was aware? At all? Unreal. 

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