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1 hour ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Fifty and they hit it out of the park, too. As always, Dallas does everything about being a city better than Austin and decades earlier. Probably because it has much smarter voters and far stronger civic leadership both inside and outside of city government.

Dallas's civic leadership--which is to say the Citizens' Council--is problematic on a lot of levels.  But this isn't the thread for that.  It will suffice to say that you damn with faint praise when you say it's better than Austin.

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1 hour ago, Ghost of LL said:

Dallas's civic leadership--which is to say the Citizens' Council--is problematic on a lot of levels.  But this isn't the thread for that.  It will suffice to say that you damn with faint praise when you say it's better than Austin.

I don’t have any illusions about that but I don’t think Dallas gets enough credit for getting shit done. 
The best and most accurate description of Dallas I’ve ever read is from 1964- “five cities in the middle of nowhere.” Where Austin is and was an embarrassment of natural riches and advantage that manages to achieve very little, Dallas had nothing other than collective hustle and the will to become a world-center of industry and commerce, a great city. And it did. Something to be said for that. 

I often defend Austin’s city government on here because people act like there’s some secret inner working or cabal in charge and that’s fantasy. Virtually anyone can step into the arena in Austin and make a big difference, but people in this city are mostly too lazy and cynical to do it.
Austin’s not corrupt in a meaningful way, just myopic and small minded. This logo exercise is a good example. They just think too small. 

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30 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

I don’t have any illusions about that but I don’t think Dallas gets enough credit for getting shit done. 
The best and most accurate description of Dallas I’ve ever read is from 1964- “five cities in the middle of nowhere.” Where Austin is and was an embarrassment of natural riches and advantage that manages to achieve very little, Dallas had nothing other than collective hustle and the will to become a world-center of industry and commerce, a great city. And it did. Something to be said for that. 

I often defend Austin’s city government on here because people act like there’s some secret inner working or cabal in charge and that’s fantasy. Virtually anyone can step into the arena in Austin and make a big difference, but people in this city are mostly too lazy and cynical to do it.
Austin’s not corrupt in a meaningful way, just myopic and small minded. This logo exercise is a good example. They just think too small. 

I don't disagree with any of that.  Molly Ivins wrote about it when she characerized Dallas as "Boosterville" (she wasn't being complimentary).  Historically, Dallas is a great city in large part because it has the regional Federal Reserve Bank.  And it has that entirely because it out-hustled everyone else (primarily Houston, but also New Orleans) just before WWI.

But a lot of the shit Dallas has gotten done (or tried to get done) has been dumb, stupid, ill-advised, or outright wicked.  In the former group is the stupid-ass standing wave in the Trinity River; in the latter group is the stupid golf course in the middle of the Great Trinity Forest.

Still--the biggest thing I will say is that Dallas has real, legitimate philanthropists.  It has people who pay hundreds of millions of dollars to put their name on parks, museums, hospitals, theaters and other things build and dedicated to the public good.  Austin has none of that.  It's not that Austin doesn't have plenty of rich people; a quick drive along Highway 360 on a Saturday afternoon will disabuse you of that notion.  It's that hte rich people in Austin--with the sole exception of Michael Dell--don't have a philanthropic bone in their bodies.  There's no Perot Museum here; there's no Winspear Opera House or Meyerson Symphony Center; there's no Klyde Warren Deck Park.  And that is to this city's very great detriment.

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4 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

Fuck all those.  They are images of an Austin that was, not the Austin that is.

Tell your AI to give us a logo that has a techbro douche driving a cybertruck slow in the fast lane on Mopac on his way to some overcrowded new "it" joint full of 200 "influencers" all recording themselves drinking $28 cocktails and eating mediocre $30 "small plates."  That there would be an accurate brand.

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16 hours ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Fifty and they hit it out of the park, too. As always, Dallas does everything about being a city better than Austin and decades earlier. Probably because it has much smarter voters and far stronger civic leadership both inside and outside of city government.

TC "Sweet Green" Broadnax says HI.

I guess you can say Dallas shit-canned him before Austin did. But we have some parity, as we've got the same captain at the helm (a few years apart).  Dallas and Austin both have their unique issues which makes it hard to compare.  Dallas, being a huge metropolitan area with a very diverse voter base.  Austin: eagerly awaiting the next chance to trip over their prius-driving micro-peens to vote in the next fake-it-til-you-make-it city councilmember...

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It wouldn’t be so bad if they admitted failure once in a while instead of always doubling down and insisting that they just didn’t spend enough money for it to work. 
 

Rapidly approaching the Lake Travis model of Mansions or Rvs and nothing in between. 

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13 hours ago, Ghost of LL said:

I don't disagree with any of that.  Molly Ivins wrote about it when she characerized Dallas as "Boosterville" (she wasn't being complimentary).  Historically, Dallas is a great city in large part because it has the regional Federal Reserve Bank.  And it has that entirely because it out-hustled everyone else (primarily Houston, but also New Orleans) just before WWI.

But a lot of the shit Dallas has gotten done (or tried to get done) has been dumb, stupid, ill-advised, or outright wicked.  In the former group is the stupid-ass standing wave in the Trinity River; in the latter group is the stupid golf course in the middle of the Great Trinity Forest.

Still--the biggest thing I will say is that Dallas has real, legitimate philanthropists.  It has people who pay hundreds of millions of dollars to put their name on parks, museums, hospitals, theaters and other things build and dedicated to the public good.  Austin has none of that.  It's not that Austin doesn't have plenty of rich people; a quick drive along Highway 360 on a Saturday afternoon will disabuse you of that notion.  It's that hte rich people in Austin--with the sole exception of Michael Dell--don't have a philanthropic bone in their bodies.  There's no Perot Museum here; there's no Winspear Opera House or Meyerson Symphony Center; there's no Klyde Warren Deck Park.  And that is to this city's very great detriment.

Great point. Houston is similar in that it has the Fertita's lovely Aquarium, Mattress Mack's bi-annual "gamble on an end table" promotion, and . . . uh....

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16 hours ago, ztejas said:

SMU sells merch and wears unis with the logo on it.

Not sure if that's a co-branding arrangement or what.

City licensed it to them.  SMU is kind of especially getting its ox gouged by the rapper, since they're both selling a lot of apparel, but to two distinct markets that don't necessarily want to be identified together.

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13 hours ago, Ghost of LL said:

I don't disagree with any of that.  Molly Ivins wrote about it when she characerized Dallas as "Boosterville" (she wasn't being complimentary).  Historically, Dallas is a great city in large part because it has the regional Federal Reserve Bank.  And it has that entirely because it out-hustled everyone else (primarily Houston, but also New Orleans) just before WWI.

But a lot of the shit Dallas has gotten done (or tried to get done) has been dumb, stupid, ill-advised, or outright wicked.  In the former group is the stupid-ass standing wave in the Trinity River; in the latter group is the stupid golf course in the middle of the Great Trinity Forest.

Still--the biggest thing I will say is that Dallas has real, legitimate philanthropists.  It has people who pay hundreds of millions of dollars to put their name on parks, museums, hospitals, theaters and other things build and dedicated to the public good.  Austin has none of that.  It's not that Austin doesn't have plenty of rich people; a quick drive along Highway 360 on a Saturday afternoon will disabuse you of that notion.  It's that hte rich people in Austin--with the sole exception of Michael Dell--don't have a philanthropic bone in their bodies.  There's no Perot Museum here; there's no Winspear Opera House or Meyerson Symphony Center; there's no Klyde Warren Deck Park.  And that is to this city's very great detriment.

And the best philanthropists in Dallas have been the quiet ones like Erik Jonsson and Eugene McDermott.  That quote from 1964 above was during the early years of Goals For Dallas, Jonsson's plan that was very inclusive for its day and tamped down the worst instincts of the Citizens Council.  Hell, his service as mayor itself was an act of philanthropy.

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1 hour ago, TwiceHorn said:

City licensed it to them.  SMU is kind of especially getting its ox gouged by the rapper, since they're both selling a lot of apparel, but to two distinct markets that don't necessarily want to be identified together.

I don't know about that. I think SMU football is plenty cool in the hood - or at least becoming that way. 

Our starting QB won a state title for South Oak Cliff - which - excluding Carter - was DISD's first title in like 60 years. By a quick count there are 13 players on the roster just from South Dallas (SoC, Duncanville, DeSoto, Skyline). I know they do a ton of outreach to underprivileged schools and I'm sure they give out a ton of merch. They used to give out a bunch of tickets to those kids, too (not sure if they still do with it being a harder ticket now).

SMU football has put it a ton of effort and done a good job with community outreach. The city of Dallas logo is a big part of that. Think they are wearing those unis this week against Baylor.

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21 minutes ago, ztejas said:

I don't know about that. I think SMU football is plenty cool in the hood - or at least becoming that way. 

Our starting QB won a state title for South Oak Cliff - which - excluding Carter - was DISD's first title in like 60 years. By a quick count there are 13 players on the roster just from South Dallas (SoC, Duncanville, DeSoto, Skyline). I know they do a ton of outreach to underprivileged schools and I'm sure they give out a ton of merch. They used to give out a bunch of tickets to those kids, too (not sure if they still do with it being a harder ticket now).

SMU football has put it a ton of effort and done a good job with community outreach. The city of Dallas logo is a big part of that. Think they are wearing those unis this week against Baylor.

There is no question that SMU football is trying to do what Schnellenberger did at Miami 50 years ago.  It's a good play.  Good for SMU.

But also, good for Dallas.  

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2 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

And the best philanthropists in Dallas have been the quiet ones like Erik Jonsson and Eugene McDermott.  That quote from 1964 above was during the early years of Goals For Dallas, Jonsson's plan that was very inclusive for its day and tamped down the worst instincts of the Citizens Council.  Hell, his service as mayor itself was an act of philanthropy.

Good post- however I believe the phrase “Five Cities in the Middle of Nowhere” came from Warren Leslie’s remarkable post-Kennedy assassination anatomy of the reactionary Dallas power structure and the Citizens Council, Dallas Public and Private, all the more remarkable since Warren Leslie was an Executive VP and and primary spokesman for Neiman-Marcus at the time. 

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3 hours ago, PvilleStang said:

TC "Sweet Green" Broadnax says HI.

The expense account fracas is a perfect example of how Austin voters get distracted by nickels and dimes while dollars fly right by. The two biggest expense categories are police and fire, at about 37% and 18% respectively. 

We have among the most well paid police in the state, and yet we struggle to recruit, most of our police don’t even live in the city and the quality of our policing is extremely mediocre. We have bigger fire trucks and more firefighters than we need, and yet we struggle to find funds for parks, underinvest in infrastructure, underinvest in EMS (which is why fire gets to EMS calls before EMS so often), our animal shelters are ghastly and rely on volunteerism to function, and we treat the enterprise departments like piggy banks. 

And it’s funny, you know, because the people who bitch about salads? They’re the reason why. They’d rather live in a penny wise, pound foolish city that gives a blank check to the cops but can’t stomach the idea that a senior exec has an expense account.  And then you whine about why we don’t have top talent even though we pay top dollar?  My man, it’s the same reason nobody good runs for city council: the pay isn’t nearly enough to take such a bad job.

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19 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Good post- however I believe the phrase “Five Cities in the Middle of Nowhere” came from Warren Leslie’s remarkable post-Kennedy assassination anatomy of the reactionary Dallas power structure and the Citizens Council, Dallas Public and Private, all the more remarkable since Warren Leslie was an Executive VP and and primary spokesman for Neiman-Marcus at the time. 

I know Jonsson was deeply ashamed of the Dallas that killed Kennedy and Goals for Dallas was at least partly a response to that and the belief that moving Dallas forward as a city could mitigate the rural darkness.  And, however wrongheaded Hamilton Park may have ultimately been, he was also deeply ashamed of the city's racism.

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If any org is planning to do a branding or design exercise the first thing to do is this: find the people who are excited about it and want input and then exclude them from everything.

Total borg brain among these types and they love things that all look like the same dog shit. Find someone who doesn’t care and put them on the approval committee and you’ll be more likely to get something decent eventually. 

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16 hours ago, Ghost of LL said:

It's not that Austin doesn't have plenty of rich people; a quick drive along Highway 360 on a Saturday afternoon will disabuse you of that notion.  It's that hte rich people in Austin--with the sole exception of Michael Dell--don't have a philanthropic bone in their bodies.  There's no Perot Museum here; there's no Winspear Opera House or Meyerson Symphony Center; there's no Klyde Warren Deck Park.  And that is to this city's very great detriment.

Man, I cannot disagree with a single bit of this.  I do think Houston has strong philanthropy but as much as I love Austin, your comment is spot on.  Any big money donations floating around in Austin tend to go to UT which ultimately helps the community but you're not going to find a Menil Museum in Austin.

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3 hours ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

The expense account fracas is a perfect example of how Austin voters get distracted by nickels and dimes while dollars fly right by. The two biggest expense categories are police and fire, at about 37% and 18% respectively. 

We have among the most well paid police in the state, and yet we struggle to recruit, most of our police don’t even live in the city and the quality of our policing is extremely mediocre. We have bigger fire trucks and more firefighters than we need, and yet we struggle to find funds for parks, underinvest in infrastructure, underinvest in EMS (which is why fire gets to EMS calls before EMS so often), our animal shelters are ghastly and rely on volunteerism to function, and we treat the enterprise departments like piggy banks. 

And it’s funny, you know, because the people who bitch about salads? They’re the reason why. They’d rather live in a penny wise, pound foolish city that gives a blank check to the cops but can’t stomach the idea that a senior exec has an expense account.  And then you whine about why we don’t have top talent even though we pay top dollar?  My man, it’s the same reason nobody good runs for city council: the pay isn’t nearly enough to take such a bad job.

My argument isn't necessarily with the Sweet Greens bullshit, it's the fact that the one who's running the city has no problem spending our money like its his.  You want to be a leader, LEAD BY EXAMPLE.  Say what you want about Cronk, but he was a much better leader by comparison.  He turned out to be the scapegoat for the winter storm that Austin Energy completely mishandled.

And the APD and Fire issues go beyond pay.  We may pay well, but the risk with working for APD doesn't match the pay.  Would you want to work for shitty leadership and a DA's office that is targeting you like a minor in a Penn State locker room?  Same with AFD, there's a lack of confidence in leadership, staffing issues that don't match vehicle count, and the city is not interested in helping out their own, they'd rather find a way to cut costs on the NECESSITIES of public safety and piss it into the Homelessness coffers, public artwork in the airport, countless studies by NGOs, and new logos.

 

So, yes, I agree, the spending account is pennies compared to the bigger picture, but it's indicative of a culture problem from the top. Again, LEAD BY EXAMPLE.

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I honestly don’t hate the new logo in a vacuum, I like the colors they’ve used and I always appreciate simplicity in branding. It just looks nothing like what a municipality or other government entity should have as its standard. This logo looks like it should be for a hospital system or insurance company. And I associate blue and green shades like that with a temperate, rainy climate in the Pacific Northwest more than I do Central Texas. 

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16 minutes ago, PvilleStang said:

My argument isn't necessarily with the Sweet Greens bullshit, it's the fact that the one who's running the city has no problem spending our money like its his. 

No argument there. 

16 minutes ago, PvilleStang said:

Say what you want about Cronk, but he was a much better leader by comparison. 

I’m not a fan of Broadnax (he doesn’t have many), but Cronk was in way over his head here and didn’t lead effectively. Winter storm or no, the timeline was going to be about the same. 
 

 

16 minutes ago, PvilleStang said:

And the APD and Fire issues go beyond pay.  We may pay well, but the risk with working for APD doesn't match the pay.

I agree they go beyond pay, but you have got to be joking about the risk. This is not a dangerous town for cops compared to peer cities, full stop. 
 

16 minutes ago, PvilleStang said:

Would you want to work for shitty leadership and a DA's office that is targeting you like a minor in a Penn State locker room?  Same with AFD, there's a lack of confidence in leadership, staffing issues that don't match vehicle count, and the city is not interested in helping out their own

As much as the APD hates the DA (nobody likes the DA), he’s not the reason our police department is so mediocre at conducting their task. Poor leadership at APD and the police union is the cause of the staffing issues and poor recruitment at APD, and that’s caused by poor management, which is caused by a weak council, which is caused by cheap, dumb voters.  
The problem with AFD is that we overspend on fire relative to EMS.

16 minutes ago, PvilleStang said:

they'd rather find a way to cut costs on the NECESSITIES of public safety

We don’t tho

16 minutes ago, PvilleStang said:

piss it into the Homelessness coffers, public artwork in the airport, countless studies by NGOs, and new logos.

All of that, in total, is a rounding error compared to public safety. Stop listening to KLBJ-AM. Bad for brains. 

 

3 minutes ago, Duane Moore said:

I honestly don’t hate the new logo in a vacuum, I like the colors they’ve used and I always appreciate simplicity in branding. 

Your opinion is wrong and you should feel bad. It’s unbalanced and looks cropped on both sides.

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2 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Your opinion is wrong and you should feel bad

But as a logo it's not bad and he makes a good point... it is a perfectly nice logo for your benefits provider or the company a diagnostics lab, not the City of Austin.

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Cancelled 2 police academy recruiting classes and a DA on record saying cops are criminals and criminals are victims, add that to the always increasing cost of living in Travis County and it is not hard to imagine why APD has recruiting problems

Then you have a DA that refuses to prosecute crime.  I can't imagine the moral is high at HQ

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13 minutes ago, kibbles said:

I wonder how much we paid to some marketing dbag firm to create this logo?  I am guessing 5mil.

You would be guessing incorrectly.

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38 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Stop listening to KLBJ-AM. Bad for brains. 
 

I don't listen to any terrestrial radio other than KLBJ FM in the mornings.  But go on with the "insult"

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1 hour ago, ChickenSandwich said:

Cancelled 2 police academy recruiting classes and a DA on record saying cops are criminals and criminals are victims, add that to the always increasing cost of living in Travis County and it is not hard to imagine why APD has recruiting problems

Then you have a DA that refuses to prosecute crime.  I can't imagine the moral is high at HQ

Plenty of academy classes have been cancelled since 2000.  Travis County hasn't been affordable for a police cadet since around then.  Every police I know lives in Hays or Williamson.

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27 minutes ago, PvilleStang said:

I don't listen to any terrestrial radio other than KLBJ FM in the mornings.

You poor thing. I'm sorry. We should all chip in and buy you an Apple Car Play or Android Auto compatible head unit. 

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4 minutes ago, Deej said:

You poor thing. I'm sorry. We should all chip in and buy you an Apple Car Play or Android Auto compatible head unit. 

Ha!  I've got a newer truck, no worries on that.  Just liked listening to Dudley and Bob back in the day, and old habbits die hard.

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1 hour ago, ChickenSandwich said:

Cancelled 2 police academy recruiting classes and a DA on record saying cops are criminals and criminals are victims, add that to the always increasing cost of living in Travis County and it is not hard to imagine why APD has recruiting problems

Then you have a DA that refuses to prosecute crime. 

A DA that refuses to prosecute crime matches up perfectly with a PD that decided to functionally go on strike and dial the fuck back their policing of crime because someone dared suggest several years ago that maybe they shouldn't just have free rein to do whatever the fuck they wanted and beat and shoot whoever they wanted with no real oversight or consequences.

They are petulant children who took their ball and went home when someone said maybe they should follow some rules.  And by the way, being a cop in Austin is one of the safest public sector jobs around.  Fuck excusing APD for a single goddamned thing.  Our DA sucks.  But APD sucks hard regardless of that fact, and has since a time pre-dating this DA.

Put your dream DA in the job, and unless that DA takes the approach of "APD can do whatever it wants, I'll back them 100% and never, ever, ever bring charges against a cop," APD will suck EXACTLY as much as it does right now.

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16 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

A DA that refuses to prosecute crime matches up perfectly with a PD that decided to functionally go on strike and dial the fuck back their policing of crime because someone dared suggest several years ago that maybe they shouldn't just have free rein to do whatever the fuck they wanted and beat and shoot whoever they wanted with no real oversight or consequences.

They are petulant children who took their ball and went home when someone said maybe they should follow some rules.  And by the way, being a cop in Austin is one of the safest public sector jobs around.  Fuck excusing APD for a single goddamned thing.  Our DA sucks.  But APD sucks hard regardless of that fact, and has since a time pre-dating this DA.

Put your dream DA in the job, and unless that DA takes the approach of "APD can do whatever it wants, I'll back them 100% and never, ever, ever bring charges against a cop," APD will suck EXACTLY as much as it does right now.

Their dipshit officers aimed for skulls for shits & giggles and gave that kid from Texas State skull fractures and brain damage with"non-lethal" rounds (and he wasn't the only one). Kid was just standing there on the side of the highway, video clear as fucking day. Fucking cowards got indicted and the whole shit started crumbling down. Fuck them. They want the city to forget, but I'll never forget the real reason they quit on their jobs. Protecting some shithead trigger-happy fuckwits. 

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3 hours ago, texasdago said:

But as a logo it's not bad

It’s legit terrible logo design for anything.

 

2 hours ago, PvilleStang said:

I don't listen to any terrestrial radio other than KLBJ FM in the mornings.  But go on with the "insult"

Consider it done; you’re also ugly

2 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

a PD that decided to functionally go on strike and dial the fuck back their policing of crime

This. This is like the very open secret that nobody wants to talk about. Even a lot of cops are frustrated about it. And there’s no appetite to take it on.  It they do, it’s quite likely the State Gov will basically gut the homerule charter.

But make no mistake: our police do not police this city well. Even when asked, or especially when asked. Want to see 10 cops? Send a landscape truck across Tarrytown after 7pm. Want to see no cops? Call them when your car gets stolen.

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7 hours ago, texasdago said:

Man, I cannot disagree with a single bit of this.  I do think Houston has strong philanthropy but as much as I love Austin, your comment is spot on.  Any big money donations floating around in Austin tend to go to UT which ultimately helps the community but you're not going to find a Menil Museum in Austin.

One of the factors there is oil money.  I don't think so much money has ever come so fast to people in the right place at the right time, by skill or luck.

And the money typically wasn't tied up in stock, either.  

So, whether from just vast excesses of money, or maybe a sense of embarrassment, Houston oil-rich generously endowed the arts, especially.  Also, I think a lot of them were basically rubes and wanted to improve perception of Houston and of themselves.

That doesn't really explain Dallas, though.  However, Meyerson, Perot, Jonsson, McDermott, etc. did their philanthropy when they had moved up and out, mostly, of their business endeavors, while a lot of Austin's rich and young rich everywhere are somewhat disinclined and badly positioned to do a lot of philanthropy.

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19 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

 

This. This is like the very open secret that nobody wants to talk about. Even a lot of cops are frustrated about it. And there’s no appetite to take it on.  It they do, it’s quite likely the State Gov will basically gut the homerule charter.

But make no mistake: our police do not police this city well. Even when asked, or especially when asked. Want to see 10 cops? Send a landscape truck across Tarrytown after 7pm. Want to see no cops? Call them when your car gets stolen.

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Our DA is shitty.  But blaming our shitty policing on the fact that we have a shitty DA is just what they are fucking doing -- complete and total distraction and excuse making for not just the fact that they are doing a shitty job on PURPOSE, but the fact that they are doing a shitty job on purpose because they have nothing but contempt for the very people who they are supposed to serve.

APD has said, in rather plain terms evidenced by their conduct, "If you don't let us do our job exactly the way we want to do it, with no accountability or consequences, then fuck you, we'll let you be victims of crime -- see how you like that, peasants."

The contempt that APD has for the public is inexcusable and unforgiveable.  

You can hate both APD and Garza.  In fact, you almost certainly should.  Just don't ever, EVER use the failings of one to excuse the failings of the other.

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2 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

Our DA is shitty.  But blaming our shitty policing on the fact that we have a shitty DA is just what they are fucking doing -- complete and total distraction and excuse making for not just the fact that they are doing a shitty job on PURPOSE, but the fact that they are doing a shitty job on purpose because they have nothing but contempt for the very people who they are supposed to serve.

 

Sure, but the handful of criminals APD actually makes an effort to arrest could at least be prosecuted.

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11 minutes ago, Deej said:

Sure, but the handful of criminals APD actually makes an effort to arrest could at least be prosecuted.

Let me get this straight: you don’t like the DA so when there’s a guy breaking into the house next door it’s fine for the police not to respond, even though they can and do respond quickly to low/no risk calls.
 

Do I have that right? Your safety in real time is expendable because Garza?

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1 minute ago, ChickenSandwich said:

Bullshit. This is just one of many many examples. 
 

arrested 7 times in 12 months. 
 

that shouldn’t be possible

In 2025 alone

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The DA sucks! You should run against him! But none of that justifies the police not doing their jobs. 

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18 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Let me get this straight: you don’t like the DA so when there’s a guy breaking into the house next door it’s fine for the police not to respond, even though they can and do respond quickly to low/no risk calls.
 

Do I have that right? Your safety in real time is expendable because Garza?

I'm saying they both suck. Neither's incompetence excuses the other. You seem to think its fine for Garza to suck at his job because APD barely does their job. 

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2 minutes ago, Deej said:

I'm saying they both suck. Neither's incompetence excuses the other. You seem to think it’s fine for Garza to suck at his job because APD barely does their job. 

I keep saying “he sucks” about Garza so the bolded text above is … quite a leap.

examples:

5 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

The DA sucks! You should run against him! But none of that justifies the police not doing their jobs. 

 

7 hours ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

As much as the APD hates the DA (nobody likes the DA)

 

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What would y’all do to motivate the police? If your children wanted to be policemen in Austin, what would you tell them about the job? Would those words encourage such a career? 

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