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Posted
1 hour ago, CTC2 said:

What the fuck is wrong with some people? What a bunch of morons we have to share this country with.  Since when did being stupid become a virtue?  

21 minutes ago, DixonHur said:

Somewhere between Honey Boo-boo and Duck Dynasty.

Don’t forget these two

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Who birthed this moron

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The super money will decide or has already decided who gets the nomination if Biden drops out. Whoever that is will simply offer cabinet posts to the others for their acquiescence. I think it’s Harris, which is not what I thought 24 hours ago. 

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3 hours ago, WhatTheBuck said:

It could be Harris. The guys from Pod Save America pointed out that it’s the Biden/Harris campaign so if Biden drops out and Harris is the nominee, all that infrastructure and campaign cash would still be available to her. Not so for anyone else. That’s not to say there wouldn’t likely be some change-up in the staffing but their main point was about the money. She’s the only other candidate who’d have free access to it because she’s already on the ticket. 

If her polling is strong enough and she can truly succeed to the campaign apparatus, donors, experts, intel, executives then maybe this is the right answer. There is no other option though. 

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2 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:

The super money will decide or has already decided who gets the nomination if Biden drops out. Whoever that is will simply offer cabinet posts to the others for their acquiescence. I think it’s Harris, which is not what I thought 24 hours ago. 

Which will inmediately make the number one negative of the candidate.

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The DNC strategy is to keep a few million Trump voters at home in November in a few key states.  That's where the resources are being poured.  Much as I love my mother from Mexico who taught me early on in life to stay civically engaged.  Much as I would love a female President, particularly one of color like my mother and to see my daughter's faces when I tell them we're going to the inauguration.  And the "big" idea is to nominate Kamala instead and moronically think they won't drive out every Trump voter who was considering not voting because they'd had enough of his bullshit?  It's not fair, but it's reality.  I think she's continue a fine legacy and team.  But this is not the fucking year to do this kinda stuff.  It's not sexism or racism.  All that happens is she drives out more Trump voters who may have otherwise stayed home.  I didn't invent politics nor the hatred in America's heart.  Your party is fucking this whole thing up twelve ways from Tuesday.  We can sort this all out in 2032.  But we have to last as a nation until then.  

Posted
43 minutes ago, Aqua Buddha said:

Then they make a donation to the Whitmer campaign.

God damn.  This is really the easiest part and you mother fuckers are like "We gotta stick with Biden because we don't have any money otherwise."  It's like Texas thinking they can't fire coach because of a million dollar buyout.

No the money probably is the easiest though not easy.  A near billion dollar campaign in 120 days is never easy. The analogy is more like hey sark you’re switching teams, coaching Oregon against Ohio State in two weeks. Not sure if the coaching staff at Oregon will coach with you, not sure if the players are gonna stay, not sure if the film and analysts will help you. Good luck! 

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7 minutes ago, YGIFS said:

The DNC strategy is to keep a few million Trump voters at home in November in a few key states.  That's where the resources are being poured.  Much as I love my mother from Mexico who taught me early on in life to stay civically engaged.  Much as I would love a female President, particularly one of color like my mother and to see my daughter's faces when I tell them we're going to the inauguration.  And the "big" idea is to nominate Kamala instead and moronically think they won't drive out every Trump voter who was considering not voting because they'd had enough of his bullshit?  It's not fair, but it's reality.  I think she's continue a fine legacy and team.  But this is not the fucking year to do this kinda stuff.  It's not sexism or racism.  All that happens is she drives out more Trump voters who may have otherwise stayed home.  I didn't invent politics nor the hatred in America's heart.  Your party is fucking this whole thing up twelve ways from Tuesday.  We can sort this all out in 2032.  But we have to last as a nation until then.  

 

This.

Gavin Newson and Rafeal Warnock it is then.

Do it.

We'd then likely lose the Senate (probably going to happen anyway), but we'd have better than a punchers chance at the Whitehouse.

Having a woman at the top of the ticket doesn't do anything but get out the anti-woman trump vote whipped up like you said.

Rafeal Warnock is the best of both worlds when it comes to a VP. Religious and person of color. 

Mayor Pete would be great as either IMO, but he has the gay. Pete can be State. Make Kamula AG or a Supreme Court Justice.

Profit?

Posted (edited)
6 minutes ago, chainsaw said:

Newsom/Abrams

great political mind, great organizer, poor candidate. She should head the DNC, not squander her talent with vanity. 

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11 hours ago, BrickTop said:


I’ve never posted here, and I’ll probably regret it but I think this is pretty much dead on, I don’t really follow the inner workings of politics all that clearly so I will make a few points, 1. I am really not a fan of Trump, I’d consider myself a moderate. 2. I watched Biden speak in the 2020 debates and he seemed very strong and in control. 3. No way in hell am I voting for Biden after that debate performance, I have seen senility and Alzheimer’s and maybe that’s not what Biden has but to be honest that version of the POTUS shown in that debate is actually somewhat terrifying. As it stands I’m voting for neither, and a lot of people I know feel the same, too much uncertainty with Biden, not voting for Trump, I think a lot of people are missing the amount of people who simply won’t vote for either. Yes, that debate absolutely changed a lot of minds, it was somewhat terrifying and caused a lot of uncertainty with a lot of people. I am not a political expert, just a working class blue collar guy , so forgive my somewhat simple take.

You're terrified by Biden, but not by Trump.

Okeley, dokely, doo.

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Posted
3 minutes ago, WhatTheBuck said:

There’d be the added benefit that Trump would hate getting beat by her more than anyone else in the world. She’s both a black woman AND an Obama! She’s extra nasty!

And she wasn’t even born in America!

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It’s Harris as plan B and there is no plan C. She’s the veep and situations like this are what veeps are for, no? She’s been on the ticket and in the cabinet for 4 years already and she’ll have access to all the campaign cash accrued to date.

I doubt the party could unite behind anyone else in four months without some group in the D tent getting their feelings hurt. The base will get behind Harris if only because of succession, and reassuring the base is step 1. Worry about indies later.

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Seeing that Obama poll makes me crazy. That means her presence in the race must bring out a lot more left leaning voters. It’s the only explanation. There aren’t enough middle independents for that type of margin. She sure isn’t going to draw voters from the right. 

So it raises a pretty big question. We have one of the biggest threats to US Democracy in history. The Supreme Court composition for a generation is at stake. The possibility of a full Republican Congress and Presidency is real, with an obliteration of Social Security, Medicare and Abortion in their crosshairs. We have one of the worst human beings on the planet on the ticket. And we can’t get left leaning voters to the polls without Michelle Obama? WTF? What the hell is wrong with people?

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14 hours ago, Snake Diggity said:

I agree the Biden admin has been effective, but just because an administration is running smoothly doesn’t mean Biden has been an effective leader, or even that he has been the leader.  His cabinet is full of competent people who could be working under their own authority.  We don’t have visibility into that; we did have visibility into Biden’s competency on the debate stage and it was clear he’s not fit.

Fwiw, I think the argument that Biden is an empty suit and that Harris/Buttigieg/Blinken/Austin/Sullivan are working as a Voltron President is valid, and a significant justification for continuing to support Biden even though he’s clearly unfit for office.

Makes sense. Your standard is vibes and feelings and doesn't consider the effectiveness of government to make the lives of US citizens better or to increase our standing on the world stage.  

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Posted (edited)
6 minutes ago, GW Hayduke said:

Makes sense. Your standard is vibes and feelings and doesn't consider the effectiveness of government to make the lives of US citizens better or to increase our standing on the world stage.  

I am absolutely good with a president like Biden. You delegate out responsibility to subordinates who understand their role in America and the greater world as a whole. You do your job and you make sure that at home and abroad we are taking care of our citizens and strengthening ties with countries we are close to as well as ones we need to have good relationships with.

The alternative is a narcissistic nutjob that thinks airports were around 250 years ago who, and this is kind of a big deal, LEAD AN INSURRECTION to keep control of the government less than four years ago. Give me quiet competency versus a crazy person whose greatest contribution to American society will be the day he no longer walks among the living.

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Seeing that Obama poll makes me crazy. That means her presence in the race must bring out a lot more left leaning voters. It’s the only explanation. There aren’t enough middle independents for that type of margin. She sure isn’t going to draw voters from the right. 
So it raises a pretty big question. We have one of the biggest threats to US Democracy in history. The Supreme Court composition for a generation is at stake. The possibility of a full Republican Congress and Presidency is real, with an obliteration of Social Security, Medicare and Abortion in their crosshairs. We have one of the worst human beings on the planet on the ticket. And we can’t get left leaning voters to the polls without Michelle Obama? WTF? What the hell is wrong with people?

There are some smooth brains posting here that said Kamala can’t win due to racism and misogyny so i eagerly await their explanation why that same racism and misogyny doesn’t apply to Michelle
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5 minutes ago, babysdaddy said:


There are some smooth brains posting here that said Kamala can’t win due to racism and misogyny so i eagerly await their explanation why that same racism and misogyny doesn’t apply to Michelle

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9 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

You're terrified by Biden, but not by Trump.

Okeley, dokely, doo.

This is what I don't get.  We can have a doddering old man as president, propped up by smart, capable, well-meaning people OR we can have a psychotic narcissist hellbent on grifting the shit out of everyone propped up by others just like him.

This isn't a hard choice.

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Posted (edited)
16 minutes ago, babysdaddy said:


There are some smooth brains posting here that said Kamala can’t win due to racism and misogyny so i eagerly await their explanation why that same racism and misogyny doesn’t apply to Michelle

 

Narrator: But no one had actually said that it didn't apply to Michelle.  In fact...

 

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2 hours ago, berlinerbaer said:

It’s Harris as plan B and there is no plan C. She’s the veep and situations like this are what veeps are for, no? She’s been on the ticket and in the cabinet for 4 years already and she’ll have access to all the campaign cash accrued to date.

I doubt the party could unite behind anyone else in four months without some group in the D tent getting their feelings hurt. The base will get behind Harris if only because of succession, and reassuring the base is step 1. Worry about indies later.

This is the most realistic option, imo.

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Narrator: But no one had actually said that it didn't apply to Michelle.  In fact...
 

Polling shows her winning by 10.

Regardless, point is I’m happy most of you are not political professionals because the takes on this thread have been embarrassing.

Get on board with Kamala
Posted
6 minutes ago, Aqua Buddha said:

she's bad at politics and generally unprepared.

And, unfortunately, this is only still important to one side.

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12 minutes ago, Aqua Buddha said:

she's bad at politics and generally unprepared.  

Her ego won't let that stand in her way.

If Biden steps aside, and she's not the nomination, she'll go scorched earth out of spite.

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1 minute ago, CooterBrown said:

Her ego won't let that stand in her way.

If Biden steps aside, and she's not the nomination, she'll go scorched earth out of spite.

Really? You think she’s not a team player? She’d go scorched earth and hand it to Trump?

Angry black woman trope 

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6 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Really? You think she’s not a team player? She’d go scorched earth and hand it to Trump?

Angry black woman trope 

It's not an angry black woman trope. It's a typical shunned politician trope.

 

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Posted
13 minutes ago, CooterBrown said:

Her ego won't let that stand in her way.

If Biden steps aside, and she's not the nomination, she'll go scorched earth out of spite.

You don’t know this. You just made this shit up

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If Biden steps aside, it is with the direct negotiation stipulation that she IS the nominee. But he's not stepping aside.

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But but but he lost the debate so badly, he lost 10 points of support

🙄 

Just now, David Dennison said:

Counterpoint: Still losing to a failed former president with a known track record and a base that tops out at around 33%.

This should be a lay up.

Gulp.

Just like presidential approvals, we are too fucking polarized. There may never be a “layup” again until we get out of this mindset. This country is broken and divided right in half 

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just about the time Russia announced they would be shifting their troll farms' focus from war in Ukraine to the US election, I braced myself for a lot of bad takes and boy have we gotten them

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Not to mention Democrats are demoralized right now. I doubt they’re going to pick up the phone for presidential surveys and a decent chunk are probably going “undecided” right now

That Trump barely picked up support in public polls and they’re still within the margin of error tells me this isn’t going to hurt Biden 4 months from now unless he does it again/repeatedly.  

Posted
2 minutes ago, Js1 said:

But but but he lost the debate so badly, he lost 10 points of support

🙄

Just like presidential approvals, we are too fucking polarized. There may never be a “layup” again until we get out of this mindset. This country is broken and divided right in half 

Yeah, but the Democrat should be hoovering non-MAGA voters.

Even in a polarized country, it really shouldn't be close given Trump's track record and base.

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I'm not a member of your party, but I bundled a shit-ton of cash for Biden in 2020 to get rid of Trump---like many of you.  

Four fucking months out from the election that decides the fate of our Republic, and questions about who may replace Biden are labeled as "sexist/racist"???  4 months out and this is the focus of your party, who will get their feelings hurt and who is being mean?  We had four fucking goddamn years to settle this shit, but now his age and possible replacements being women of color are a thing?  Court cases against Trump are crumbling in real time, Biden gets older by the day, but the grand strategy is "Well, maybe on-the-fence Trump voters won't turn out if a person of color on the ballot."  I know it hurts to hear, but this is not the election to get clever and progressive.  Almost four fucking years and suddenly the D's get religion, "Hey, what if we rebooted the ticket with somebody that will absolutely piss off 80 million Americans instead of just propping up Joe and winning a narrow one and probably reboot everything during the mid-terms?"  

I know what America y'all live in.  I want a woman President.  But it doesn't happen if there's not an election in 2028 or 2032.  Yeah, we're all sexist assholes.  Keep telling yourselves that when women have what's left of their rights taken away.  I'll think about how savvy you were when my daughter's grow up in Trumplandia because the party's line, "I think Kamala can win over a lot of moderate Republicans in the Rust Belt."  

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1 minute ago, YGIFS said:

I'm not a member of your party, but I bundled a shit-ton of cash for Biden in 2020 to get rid of Trump---like many of you.  

Four fucking months out from the election that decides the fate of our Republic, and questions about who may replace Biden are labeled as "sexist/racist"???  4 months out and this is the focus of your party, who will get their feelings hurt and who is being mean?  We had four fucking goddamn years to settle this shit, but now his age and possible replacements being women of color are a thing?  Court cases against Trump are crumbling in real time, Biden gets older by the day, but the grand strategy is "Well, maybe on-the-fence Trump voters won't turn out if a person of color on the ballot."  I know it hurts to hear, but this is not the election to get clever and progressive.  Almost four fucking years and suddenly the D's get religion, "Hey, what if we rebooted the ticket with somebody that will absolutely piss off 80 million Americans instead of just propping up Joe and winning a narrow one and probably reboot everything during the mid-terms?"  

I know what America y'all live in.  I want a woman President.  But it doesn't happen if there's not an election in 2028 or 2032.  Yeah, we're all sexist assholes.  Keep telling yourselves that when women have what's left of their rights taken away.  I'll think about how savvy you were when my daughter's grow up in Trumplandia because the party's line, "I think Kamala can win over a lot of moderate Republicans in the Rust Belt."  

On a related note, I've never given money to a candidate or party and I never will.

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