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31 minutes ago, gmr548 said:

I mean that may have been the case and he was just too dumb to phrase it in a way that couldn't be interperted as despotic - same with the windmill clip, for all I know it was what passes for comedy on the right and trying to mock people that think climate change is real - I just don't care. Hammer it hammer it, hammer it.

This.  I don't care if he didn't mean what he said (and I believe he meant every word) -- HE SAID IT.  Add it to the list:

 

-- dictatorship

-- Roe v Wade

-- Project 2025

-- January 6 insurrection

-- 34 felony convictions

-- found to have committed sexual assault in court and held liable

-- refused to return classified documents

-- tried to get GA SOS to commit election fraud

-- etc.

 

Drive every point home, 24/7.  Bury this fucker.  Get out the vote.

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Apparently Elon is making deep fakes of Kamala now…

It’s making the rounds on twitter

 

Also—the radical right is making a really big deal about Kamala “not being Black” and keeps complaining that she’s not Black so why do people keep saying that It’s unclear why that is a talking point for them and what they believe that is supposed to accomplish. 

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9 minutes ago, Pancho said:

 

Lots of drag queens (and I mean A LOT of drag queens), which I thought was cool. 

They are really upset at the drag queens acting out the last supper. That put it over the edge for them. 

I had to return to my desk to work and missed that part. I expected the Lady Gaga number to be a drag show prior to us seeing any faces. It would have been great. Gaga was great, anyway.

@Brisketexan was the first I heard saying "cruelty is our brand." We know whom he meant. Outraged intolerance also fits in there.

I usually don't watch opening ceremonies because they're slow with walking athletes and annoying with the constant drone of announcers spewing needless facts and detail.

My beloved coaxed me to watch with her at lunchtime. Using the river was a fabulous idea to start with. Add all the spectacle and nice mix of new and old, my jaw dropped about every 4 minutes when Coke was sponsoring commercial free. Celine singing from the tower at the end was so very powerful, and she is basically never on my radar.

The French set a very high mark. I'm not surprised, they do so many things well that we often scorn just because it's French. 

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5 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

This.  I don't care if he didn't mean what he said (and I believe he meant every word) -- HE SAID IT.  Add it to the list:

 

-- dictatorship

-- Roe v Wade

-- Project 2025

-- January 6 insurrection

-- 34 felony convictions

-- found to have committed sexual assault in court and held liable

-- refused to return classified documents

-- tried to get GA SOS to commit election fraud

-- etc.

 

Drive every point home, 24/7.  Bury this fucker.  Get out the vote.

 

3 minutes ago, Pancho said:

Apparently Elon is making deep fakes of Kamala now…

It’s making the rounds on twitter

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15 hours ago, Hank_Hill said:

This is the same justification dudes who can’t pull use for getting with ugly girls. Which is fine. Old uglies need love too. 

Dudes who can't pull high value women make posts like this  

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6 minutes ago, Pancho said:

Apparently Elon is making deep fakes of Kamala now…

It’s making the rounds on twitter

 

Also—the radical right is making a really big deal about Kamala “not being Black” and keeps complaining that she’s not Black so why do people keep saying that It’s unclear why that is a talking point for them and what they believe that is supposed to accomplish. 

Get ready for the word quadroon. 

Why are bleks even voting for her? She's not even a quadroon!

It's like Aggies pointing to the day they opened their doors as proof that they are indeed big brother. They're idiots who just don't get it. 

It's not the fucking DNA. It's that she does, indeed, get it for persons of color.

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18 minutes ago, Pancho said:

Apparently Elon is making deep fakes of Kamala now…

It’s making the rounds on twitter

 

Also—the radical right is making a really big deal about Kamala “not being Black” and keeps complaining that she’s not Black so why do people keep saying that It’s unclear why that is a talking point for them and what they believe that is supposed to accomplish. 

Schrödinger’s cat of blackness. She’s both too black for the white people and not black enough for the black people, according to the GOP

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1 hour ago, tx ind said:

The never have to vote again is at least on the front page of CNN right now, I think that's gonna be discussed heavily in the coming days 20 minutes.

 

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So Trump told them they won't have to vote.  The only damage control spin I can even possibly imagine (even though his whole "we will fix it" part makes even this real tough) is "oh he just meant that he won't be able to run again".  To which the obvious response would be "oh so a former President who wants the job again doesn't really give a shit about what happens to the country when it doesn't involve him?"

It's all bullshit, he meant exactly what he said,  but that's what I can see coming and it will be up to folks to be critical thinkers enough to come to that second conclusion. The media isn't going to be helpful and I won't hold my breath.

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9 minutes ago, Bullneck said:

There’s some buzz about Haley replacing Vance. 

It will be funny watching that "Haley voters against Trump" PAC campaign against Haley, who I think is suing that PAC already?

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1 hour ago, Pancho said:

My guess is the “never have to vote again” line is probably why a handful of radical Republicans are trying to change the narrative asking Kamala to condemn the opening ceremony of the Olympics which isn’t even in America. 

Yeah, that was a Big Damn Deal yesterday on Local Talk Radio. Several callers in a listening area from Cullman down to Chilton County declared they will boycott the Olympics. I am not sure the French realize this yet.

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21 minutes ago, Bullneck said:

There’s some buzz about Haley replacing Vance. 

From where? The internets?

Bolton was on CNN last night and he thinks Vance won’t get replaced. I 

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2 minutes ago, Pancho said:

From where? The internets?

Bolton was on CNN last night and he thinks Vance won’t get replaced. I 

It would be hilarious but he won’t do it. He would look weak, he needs Vance’s connection to Thiel and SV money and Vance is taking the headlines off Trump and the shit he says 

Funny enough, Harris needs an attack dog type VP. Trump just needs someone to keep the headlines off him. 

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6 minutes ago, Pancho said:

From where? The internets?

Bolton was on CNN last night and he thinks Vance won’t get replaced. I 

Newsweek, but on closer reading it just “a lot of people are saying that.”

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The Republicans have been throwing a hissy fit over Biden stepping out pre-convention.   How would they spin Trump shoving Vance aside post-convention?  Yes, Biden went through the primaries as the presumptive candidate.  But naming a VP and then kicking them out post-convention isn't going to happen.   Trump can't admit he was wrong at this point, both due to his hubris and the effective political fall out.  It would be quite spectacular.

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7 minutes ago, Bullneck said:

Newsweek, but on closer reading it just “a lot of people are saying that.”

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Stupid question, but if Vance doesn’t quit can they just do that?

 

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32 minutes ago, Surly Bevo said:

So Trump told them they won't have to vote.  The only damage control spin I can even possibly imagine (even though his whole "we will fix it" part makes even this real tough) is "oh he just meant that he won't be able to run again".  To which the obvious response would be "oh so a former President who wants the job again doesn't really give a shit about what happens to the country when it doesn't involve him?"

It's all bullshit, he meant exactly what he said,  but that's what I can see coming and it will be up to folks to be critical thinkers enough to come to that second conclusion. The media isn't going to be helpful and I won't hold my breath.

The only way that makes any sense at all is how he meant it. And of course the crowd cheers like crazy. I'm convinced at this point he could stand up there and say "After this is over, we're going to round all of you up and cut off your heads" and they'd cheer.

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4 minutes ago, Macanudo said:

The Republicans have been throwing a hissy fit over Biden stepping out pre-convention.   How would they spin Trump shoving Vance aside post-convention?  Yes, Biden went through the primaries as the presumptive candidate.  But naming a VP and then kicking them out post-convention isn't going to happen.   Trump can't admit he was wrong at this point, both due to his hubris and the effective political fall out.  It would be quite spectacular.

It would also just reiterate the critique of Trump's awful decision-making wrt hiring subordinates.

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2 minutes ago, Aqua Buddha said:

If it's those three, it should be Kelly.  Although, I didn't know who Walz was before this week and I find him to be likable and hilarious.

Team Walz or Kelly 

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1 minute ago, Aqua Buddha said:

If it's those three, it should be Kelly.  Although, I didn't know who Walz was before this week and I find him to be likable and hilarious.

No way, he's too milquetoast as a running mate and is more needed in that Senate seat. 

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Just now, Gourmand said:

No way, he's too milquetoast as a running mate and is more needed in that Senate seat. 

Great candidate.  Even Cindy McCain speaks very highly of him and says he'd bring AZ.  Also a good personal story and a lot of voters will be reminded of his wife being shot.

Every name being thrown around is solid but Kelly is prolly the best.  Impressive person, too.

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6 minutes ago, Red Five said:

The only way that makes any sense at all is how he meant it. And of course the crowd cheers like crazy. I'm convinced at this point he could stand up there and say "After this is over, we're going to round all of you up and cut off your heads" and they'd cheer.

I would absolutely cheer. 

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2 minutes ago, Aqua Buddha said:

Great candidate.  Even Cindy McCain speaks very highly of him and says he'd bring AZ.  Also a good personal story and a lot of voters will be reminded of his wife being shot.

Every name being thrown around is solid but Kelly is prolly the best.  Impressive person, too.

I really like Kelly, but he just doesn't have the juice of someone like Walz

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6 minutes ago, Aqua Buddha said:

Great candidate.  Even Cindy McCain speaks very highly of him and says he'd bring AZ.  Also a good personal story and a lot of voters will be reminded of his wife being shot.

Every name being thrown around is solid but Kelly is prolly the best.  Impressive person, too.

Agreed he is a great candidate and at least his appointee would be selected by a Democratic governor, but is it worth the risk of losing his Senate seat in a 2026 special election when his term is supposed to expire in 2028?

 

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14 minutes ago, Gourmand said:

Agreed he is a great candidate and at least his appointee would be selected by a Democratic governor, but is it worth the risk of losing his Senate seat in a 2026 special election when his term is supposed to expire in 2028?

 

Who gives a fuck what the Senate composition is if it’s the end of democracy?

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1 minute ago, Gatorubet said:

Who gives a fuck what the Senate composition is if it’s the end of democracy?

Not to mention that 2026 senate map is very favorable to Dems regardless. 

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I had to return to my desk to work and missed that part. I expected the Lady Gaga number to be a drag show prior to us seeing any faces. It would have been great. Gaga was great, anyway.
[mention=593]Brisketexan[/mention] was the first I heard saying "cruelty is our brand." We know whom he meant. Outraged intolerance also fits in there.
I usually don't watch opening ceremonies because they're slow with walking athletes and annoying with the constant drone of announcers spewing needless facts and detail.
My beloved coaxed me to watch with her at lunchtime. Using the river was a fabulous idea to start with. Add all the spectacle and nice mix of new and old, my jaw dropped about every 4 minutes when Coke was sponsoring commercial free. Celine singing from the tower at the end was so very powerful, and she is basically never on my radar.
The French set a very high mark. I'm not surprised, they do so many things well that we often scorn just because it's French. 

Just wait until 2028 L.A. Trump will be God Emperor and we get:

Lee Greenwood
Kid Rock
Forgiato Blow
Tom Macdonald (Featuring Ben Shapiro)

Rosanne Barr will recreate her stunning 1990 rendition of The National Anthem..
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Walz also sort of looks like a guy who would otherwise be making videos in the drivers seat of his truck. And was a former football coach. So maybe, I don’t know, confuse some people.

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2 hours ago, Red Five said:

What an incredible superpower. You can say whatever batshit crazy thought enters your head, and tens of millions of people will still vote for you. For president. 

Contrast that to Biden. The second that debate was over, virtually the entire democratic party was like "holy shit, we've got to get this dude off the ticket." 

Nah, the second the first words were out of Joe’s mouth.  We dems live in reality 

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8 minutes ago, Red Five said:

Walz also sort of looks like a guy who would otherwise be making videos in the drivers seat of his truck. And was a former football coach. So maybe, I don’t know, confuse some people.

My kids live in St Paul, Walz is a hello a pick.  What a wiseacre, remember that word?

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8 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

Who gives a fuck what the Senate composition is if it’s the end of democracy?

Because I don't think picking Mark Kelly is any more determinative of that than Josh Shapiro or Tim Walz? I do know, however, that seat will be up for a special election in 2026 if Harris beats Trump and picks Mark Kelly as her veep and Dems need EVERY SENATE SEAT POSSIBLE in a Harris administration. 

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11 hours ago, Huckleberry said:

Honestly it's fear of backlash. Which means we're already not a nation of laws. We're a nation of fee fees. This election is not to keep us on the right track, it's to give us hope of getting back to it. 

The Logan Act was enacted in 1799.  As with many things from those days (Second Amendment I'm looking at you), it is not a marvel of clear draftsmanship.  

There are concerns that, as a criminal statute, it is unconstitutionally vague and violative of the First Amendment.

It has never been successfully enforced, and only two prosecutions have ever been brought, so this is not a new development.

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