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7 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Um, I’m not talking about the “white working class,” yall are.

Again, I’m saying: Democrats have not represented the interests of the middle and lower middle class effectively for 30 years. Over and over, when the interests of the lower middle-middle class  and the top decile came into conflict,  the Democratic leadership chose the latter. When they had the opportunity to protect or expand the tools available to the lower middle and middle to protect their own interests or build equity, they opted not to take them. With the rare exception of people like Sherrod Brown,  the Democratic Party mostly represents the cultural and social agenda of well educated knowledge workers in urban centers mixed with Clinton-era corporatism. To the extent that labor Democrats exist at all anymore, they are an anachronism. 
 

It seems silly to pretend otherwise. 

You are behaving so disingenuously. Sherrod Brown is your shining example? But his voting history doesn't  align with the votes you claim lower and middle class families care so deeply about. On the 3 votes you said were the issues that those people felt really disappointed in Democrats - Glass-Stegall repeal, the bank bailout and NAFTA passage, he voted the way you'd consider "right" only 1 out of 3 times; he voted against NAFTA. I think the people you're saying feel "left behind" genuinely feel "left behind" but that's more than partially due to living in the rust belt and being ignorant about politics and policies, along with their gullibility for racism. The policies you try to gussy them up with are your own preferences. I would've thought you'd at least cite someone who voted the way you want 2 out of 3 times. But you just keep moving the goal posts, acting in an arrogant and insulting manner, and using a lot of words to say very little. 

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But you just keep moving the goal posts, acting in an arrogant and insulting manner, and using a lot of words to say very little. 

So…you ARE aware of where you’re posting, right?
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17 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:


So, when Aubrey joins us at Chili’s on Wednesday night, should I order the 3 for me with the Smashburger, or go old school with an Old Timer with cheese (and pour one out for the Rojo Burger)? I really want to get this right, and make a good impression on her.

If you are trying to impress a lady, you have to go with the shareables.  In my experience, nothing says, "I'm interested and serious" quite like the Triple Dipper.  

2 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

poor guys draft stock is tanking

that might be deliberate, nobody wants to go to the Panthers, nobody.  

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Posted
39 minutes ago, bolverk said:

I tend to agree that Clinton-era Dems (especially the Boomers who hitched their wagon to him), but the New, New Democrats of the past decade are absolutely done with that shit. 

My first presidential vote was for Clinton in 1992, but I abandoned the guy in 1996 as a protest vote after his criminal justice and welfare "reforms" to accommodate GOPs in Gingrich's Congress and voted Green instead, knowing full well that my Texas vote wouldn't make a difference. Hell, I even foolishly did the same and voted Nader instead of Gore for the same protest reasons in 2000, again, because Texas.

Obama talked a good game, and I honestly believe he could've enacted more progressive policies if not for the Clinton era Dems and the complete obstruction by McConnell and company. The guy's heart was in the right place, but I do feel like he did what he could in that environment with Boomer Dems like fucking Lieberman as obstacles.

But, right now, it's a new party with almost all of the energy and ideas coming from the more progressive wing. And, because of that, I feel more at home and feel more positive about the party than I have at most any point in the past 30-odd years of being a voting citizen.  

Students for Nader! Fuck yeah that was fun!

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33 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

He’s right. One of my high school teachers was much beloved but is all-in on Trump, and we stay in touch. 
I told him this the other day: “If Trump wins, 3 generations of students who loved you will remember you for that. You grandkids will remember you for that. You won’t be the guy that took them camping. You won’t be the teacher they looked up to or the grandfather who taught them to fish. You’ll just be a Trumper, until enough years pass that you pass from living memory and nobody knows who you were or talks about you anymore.”

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The "French financial trader" on Polymarket story doesn't really add up for me. I'm definitely skeptical it's his money, and about his claim to have no political agenda.

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3 minutes ago, Chopper said:

The "French financial trader" on Polymarket story doesn't really add up for me. I'm definitely skeptical it's his money, and about his claim to have no political agenda.

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Crypto money. Easy come, easy go. This is a better investment than NFT’s or SPAC’s. 

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11 hours ago, Js1 said:

@BamaATL

Just read Georgia last day of EV is pretty high and much blacker. Already 73k votes before lunch

Blacker the berry, sweeter the President 

2 hours ago, TankedBevo said:

Going to Port A is a fucking beating trying to enjoy the beach with fucking Trump and punisher logo flags everywhere. 

go to Palacios

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4 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

hahaha sde 

Yeah that happened in late August, but I hadn't seen it 'til now. Like I said before, the IAFF leadership are pussies, but we in the membership know wtf is up. So got damn proud of my IAFF sisters and brothers ... from Boston.

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13 minutes ago, Chopper said:

The "French financial trader" on Polymarket story doesn't really add up for me. I'm definitely skeptical it's his money, and about his claim to have no political agenda.

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Théo said he didn't want to share his name because his own friends and children don't know the extent of his wealth....

Fortunately, that won't be an issue for him come Wednesday. 

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4 minutes ago, Firemans4Horn said:


Crypto money. Easy come, easy go. This is a better investment than NFT’s or SPAC’s. 

I didn't clip the part where he says he's bet the majority of his liquid assets. He's a "veteran financial investor" who's never bet on the US election before and all of a sudden, he's risking almost all of his holdings on Trump and spouting Trump rhetoric while emailing the reporter "dozens of times" over 2 weeks to give his hot takes, all while refusing to affirm his identity to the reporter, even confidentially. Seems sus. 

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2 hours ago, cactusflinthead said:

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Imagine secretly talking to Putin while spreading lies and attacks on important Democratic politicians and important Democratic core voters on your social media site might make you enemies with the Democrats in DC?

I am not sure what his plan was, just gamble that the Democrats would lose power and never gain it again?

Though I guess I am unclear why the Democrats currently in DC are waiting around until November 5th to take care of this obvious national security risk.

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43 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:


So, when Aubrey joins us at Chili’s on Wednesday night, should I order the 3 for me with the Smashburger, or go old school with an Old Timer with cheese (and pour one out for the Rojo Burger)? I really want to get this right, and make a good impression on her.

Watch Robert De Niro degrade himself in trailer for his latest film,  genuinely called Dirty Grandpa : r/movies

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6 minutes ago, Chopper said:

I didn't clip the part where he says he's bet the majority of his liquid assets. He's a "veteran financial investor" who's never bet on the US election before and all of a sudden, he's risking almost all of his holdings on Trump and spouting Trump rhetoric while emailing the reporter "dozens of times" over 2 weeks to give his hot takes, all while refusing to affirm his identity to the reporter, even confidentially. Seems sus. 

They have crazy people in France too.

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I had originally posted an edit of that video where someone had replaced the microphone with a Thujone-esque dick. Sadly, it looks like it's been taken down. So much for freedom of speech, Little Elmo.

So much gold in the replies, y'all.

 

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Posted
1 hour ago, Gatorubet said:

That’s kind of like when the whiskey tax folks told the federal government to fuck off.  I know next to nothing about election law, but I cannot imagine that federal officials do not have the authority to monitor federal elections.

Does the Supremacy Clause of the Constitution not take care of this? Or have conservatives forgotten that it exists?

 

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4 minutes ago, Paper_jam said:

Does the Supremacy Clause of the Constitution not take care of this? Or have conservatives forgotten that it exists?

 

 

 

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Posted
38 minutes ago, Pancho said:

So…

 

Now radical republicans are trying to claim “voter suppression” because they have to stand in long ass lines to vote in Pennsylvania.

 

YOU DID THIS TO YOURSELF MOTHERFUCKERS! YOU WANTED THE LONG ASS LINES TO DETER MINORITIES FROM VOTING YOU FUCKING IDIOTS. NOW IT’S HAPPENING TO YOU BECAUSE OF YOUR OWN FUCKING SELVES! HOW STUPID ARE YALL! YOU STUPID FASCIST PIGS! YOU HAVE HORSES…WHAT WERE YOU THINKING??

fify

 

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31 minutes ago, Valmy77 said:

Imagine secretly talking to Putin while spreading lies and attacks on important Democratic politicians and important Democratic core voters on your social media site might make you enemies with the Democrats in DC?

I am not sure what his plan was, just gamble that the Democrats would lose power and never gain it again?

Though I guess I am unclear why the Democrats currently in DC are waiting around until November 5th to take care of this obvious national security risk.

No private citizen is begging to made an example of more than him.  I'm absolutely convinced that at this point his company's, save twitter, are successful in spite of him; and further, would be better off without him.  In a way, I feel bad for the people at Space X, who are doing amazing things, and I don't think it would matter really who is in charge at this point.  I might be in the minority here, but I'm highly interested in what they are doing with the Boring Company as well.  I'll leave Tesla out all that.  

At any rate, he's put a big fat target on his back, whereas if he'd just kept his mouth shut and silently contributed, like most rational billionaires, he wouldn't be getting a second thought.  I don't know what will come out of all this for him, beyond actually having to pay more in taxes, but people have long memories and I suspect he's invited way more trouble for himself than he ever bargained for.  

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4 hours ago, Born to Run said:

And South Texas. We ceded a traditionally Blue South Texas Corridor with a booming population and have done Nothing to course correct.  It's infuriating. We need a statewide candidate that is Allred/ Munchin light but Latino that also hunts and can look authentic doing so like Gov Ann whilst quoting George Straight with Flaco Jimenez endorsement.

It is very strange. Here we are in 2020 with our best performance in a Presidential election in Texas since 1976. A very impressive step forward and this was with this sudden right wing surge in the valley (relatively, obviously...still bluer than my county). How that is possible, that we did so well while doing poorly there, and that it is happening at all if baffling. But I don't know anything about the RGV. The Democrats still control most of the offices there though so there should be people on the ground who know what is going on and do something about it.

Maybe. I don't know.

But either way people in the part of the state just don't turn out to vote unfortunately.

Anyway we will see what happens this year.

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Posted
4 hours ago, Clintonaldo said:

Let’s all go to our nearest Chili’s next Wednesday and get blasted and start a drunk thread. 

And watch the resulting thread merge with the booking photos thread?

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4 minutes ago, BamaATL said:

No private citizen is begging to made an example of more than him.  I'm absolutely convinced that at this point his company's, save twitter, are successful in spite of him; and further, would be better off without him.  In a way, I feel bad for the people at Space X, who are doing amazing things, and I don't think it would matter really who is in charge at this point.  I might be in the minority here, but I'm highly interested in what they are doing with the Boring Company as well.  I'll leave Tesla out all that.  

At any rate, he's put a big fat target on his back, whereas if he'd just kept his mouth shut and silently contributed, like most rational billionaires, he wouldn't be getting a second thought.  I don't know what will come out of all this for him, beyond actually having to pay more in taxes, but people have long memories and I suspect he's invited way more trouble for himself than he ever bargained for.  

My FIL, who was an early Tesla adopter, is fully convinced Elon is one of the smartest people on the planet.  I am also a Tesla owner and am very happy with my car and also appreciate Elon's early contributions to the EV sector, Space X, etc.  Yes, I know he wasn't the main catalyst behind some of that, but we can't deny the marketing push by his celebrity, at the very least. 

THAT SAID, I tried to tell the FIL last week how Elon has completely lost his god damn mind and shouldn't be allowed to be on the board of pretty much any of his companies now and he was absolutely not having it. 

FIL: "Don't look at his politics!  Look at what he's done to change the world!"  

Yes, I too once thought this way, well, until his politics went off the god damn deep end.  Basically when he bought Twitter to spy on his girlfriend and Covid broke his brain.  

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Posted
4 hours ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

I said back in the beginning, Harris should have at least made one trip to Ohio as part of the Blue Wall barnstorming campaign. 

I don't think that would help Brown. 

 

1 hour ago, jimmyjazz said:

I continue to wonder why it's any worse to trade a blowjob for a promotion than it is to trade a promotion for a blowjob.

Because I'd rather have a blowjob.  Is this a trick question? 

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53 minutes ago, Valmy77 said:

Imagine secretly talking to Putin while spreading lies and attacks on important Democratic politicians and important Democratic core voters on your social media site might make you enemies with the Democrats in DC?

I am not sure what his plan was, just gamble that the Democrats would lose power and never gain it again?

Though I guess I am unclear why the Democrats currently in DC are waiting around until November 5th to take care of this obvious national security risk.

imagine wanting to shape the conversation and influence opinion so much that you buy twitter and you still fuck it up.  

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4 minutes ago, Valmy77 said:

It is very strange. Here we are in 2020 with our best performance in a Presidential election in Texas since 1976. A very impressive step forward and this was with this sudden right wing surge in the valley. How that is possible, that we did so well while doing poorly there, and that it is happening at all if baffling. But I don't know anything about the RGV. The Democrats still control most of the offices there though so there should be people on the ground who know what is going on and do something about it.

Maybe. I don't know.

But either way people in the part of the state just don't turn out to vote unfortunately.

Anyway we will see what happens this year.

Roland Gutierrez was probably the smarter play if Texas Dems wanted to retain the Valley. He has the fire.

Allred got my vote, but I've got to think that he would've been more effective in getting the vote from down there, but I'm riding with Allred.

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