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19 minutes ago, Guadaloopy said:

Finland is 90+% Finns.  The degree of difficulty in instilling and acting on a common set of values is orders of magnitude lower in a racially and culturally homogenous population.  It's not about them "doing the work" so much as the fact they they have far fewer societal obstacles to overcome than a pluralistic society like the US.  Whether we like it or not, the tribal instinct is deeply ingrained in our psychology and it significantly hinders our ability to work together on common solutions.  It's a hard problem to navigate.  

This. The Scandinavian countries are virtually monocultural. The US is THE melting pot of the world. Its one of our strengths but cultural and racial strife come with that. With the ascent of social media, it defines us right now. 

And as for romantic relationships, these kids have no idea how to flirt with each other. At all. There is nothing like taking a few weeks to get up the guts to ask out that hot girl and either succeed or fail. And then do it again. 

Oh and everything isn't personal man. We could all use a refresher on that. 

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Just now, Captainant said:

And YIKES dude. Peterson and Rogan are not who I would seek out for informed takes. Peterson outright believes in a natural hierarchy of authority and power, and blames virtually all of society's ills on "being woke". I really would not take any social commentary of his seriously unless you're looking to get big into incel culture

I actually looked this book up and was interested to check it out. Then I see she is doing that circuit and I'm not so sure I want to read it.

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9 minutes ago, Thetexashammer said:

Here is an interview she did with Jordan Peterson. JP is  hard to listen to, but she makes incredible points. There are shorter cuts from Rogan if you don't want to spend the time.

Shrier simply asks why the cohort that received the most mental health treatment is the worst off mentally, and draws the obvious conclusion. Social media is obviously a huge problem of course, there are lots of other factors, but in the end, I think it's a lack of meaning in life. Purpose, if you prefer. Healthy stress. Nobody around is actually helping them. Why do IDF soldiers have such low rates versus US soldiers? 

Young folks have everything and nothing at the same time.

 

What is her take on the mental health thing? Because the way the question is framed has strong vibes of “why do people in chemo die of cancer more often than people not in chemo?”

 

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5 minutes ago, FirstTimeCaller said:

I actually looked this book up and was interested to check it out. Then I see she is doing that circuit and I'm not so sure I want to read it.

She is definitely a member of the "everything I don't like is woke" posse.

 

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3 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

What is her take on the mental health thing? Because the way the question is framed has strong vibes of “why do people in chemo die of cancer more often than people not in chemo?”

 

exactly my thought while reading it.  my mind went to 'the guy with the all the bandaids has all the cuts.  we must get rid of bandaids!'

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7 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

What is her take on the mental health thing? Because the way the question is framed has strong vibes of “why do people in chemo die of cancer more often than people not in chemo?”

 

She says that over-focusing on ones own emotional state, which is championed by therapists, Social Emotional Learning advocates, and modern school counselors, leads to more instances of anxiety, emotional weakness, and depression. It's a concern about where we tell kids to focus, inwardly vs outwardly, in a way. By ruminating on "our feelings" too long or too much, we give them more power over us, not less. We feel more helpless and anxious through this self-focus.

She makes the argument that therapy is an intervention needed for people with real issues, but when applied to otherwise "normal" kids, we actually can and do cause harm. We've turned every parent into a "mini-therapist", every kid gets a diagnosis, resulting in over-intervention in our kids otherwise normal emotional development, and stunting their ability to deal themselves with negative emotions in a healthy way.

She didn't say this, but it reminded me of the classic parable of the butterfly, where the kid can't stand to see the butterfly struggle, so they help it out of the cocoon, only to watch it die from lack of wing strength. 

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8 minutes ago, bullzak said:

This. The Scandinavian countries are virtually monocultural. The US is THE melting pot of the world. Its one of our strengths but cultural and racial strife come with that. With the ascent of social media, it defines us right now. 

And as for romantic relationships, these kids have no idea how to flirt with each other. At all. There is nothing like taking a few weeks to get up the guts to ask out that hot girl and either succeed or fail. And then do it again. 

Oh and everything isn't personal man. We could all use a refresher on that. 

I get your point, but this is a big misconception.  We used to be a model 'melting pot.'  But statistically speaking, we are just above average in terms of diversity (ethnicity, language, religion, etc.).  We're in basically the second quartile or third quintile.  Most 'white' people in this country used to speak 2+ languages, now most of them can barely speak English.  We are nowhere near as diverse as we used to be/think we are. 

Their issues do not stem from us being "so culturally separated."  The happiness levels of young people aren't about DEI, ESG, Biden, cost-of-living, climate change paranoia, social media (though this is getting worse to be sure), the economy, polarized politics, Covid (the kids from the 1918 Influenza pandemic got their shit together just in time for a dust bowl, recession, and a second World War just fine), or pornhub, or lack of religious morals.  Or any of that bullshit we tell ourselves at night or over coffee after church on Sundays.  They're not as happy because look at us.  We're almost all between 30-80 years old.  We're all highly educated and live comfortably.  And we're all fucking complete assholes and many of us even embrace stupidity and cruelty as virtues.  They're surrounded by dicks, assholes, and stupids for 3 generations above them.  I don't blame them at all.  And we're kind of like the smarter, more cultured ones.  imagine what it's like to be a young person out there surrounded by the average dipshit Joe filled with hate and ignorance.  They're miserable 'cause we fucking suck but can't shut the fuck up about how awesome we are and how easy they have it.  I think we forget sometimes how shitty it is out there for most Americans.  And regardless of who is in charge, it will only get worse.  The people working to make that happen aren't taking a day off, so mental illness won't either. /rant  

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2 minutes ago, Frank Drebin said:

She makes the argument that therapy is an intervention needed for people with real issues, but when applied to otherwise "normal" kids, we actually can and do cause harm. We've turned every parent into a "mini-therapist", every kid gets a diagnosis, resulting in over-intervention in our kids otherwise normal emotional development, and stunting their ability to deal themselves with negative emotions in a healthy way.

This makes a lot of sense to me. You wouldn't medicate a kid who didn't need it, why would you go deep on therapy programs with a kid who doesn't it and think it won't have weird impacts (e.g. perceptions become reality)

And in general the weaponization of therapy language has been mind-blowing to me the last couple of years. Everything people on social media don't like is toxic or gas lighting or traumatizing or microagressions or triggering or invalidating or whatever the therapy word the narcissist has learned to use and to try and manipulate situations.

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22 minutes ago, Frank Drebin said:

I have read her book on this issue.  I don't think this book has anything to do with the woke versus non-woke culture wars.

You also misquoted MLK in defense of Chris Rufo's CRT culture war, so reader beware lol

Spoiler

You know I've got receipts

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, F250 said:

I've seen others mention this but it hasn't been my observation. I have three sons, two were in high school during Covid and the oldest was in college.

All of them dated throughout high school, had an established social group, frequently attended events with friends and in groups of couples.

I remember a conversation I had with a group of my son's friends the summer before his H.S. junior year. They were talking smack about of their friends not hanging out as much anymore because he is always with his girlfriend.

Having experienced this dynamic as a youth, I informed my son and his friends that any of them would choose to spend time with a girlfriend over a bunch of dudes. I told them it's always the first one in the group that gets in a serious relationship that catches all the flack because the rest of you don't know what it's like. A year later they were all coupled up except one kid that they were always trying to setup with someone. It was the same way with my group of friends in the 90s.

As far as social media is concerned, they frequently used it to arrange in person get togethers or stay in contact with friends that moved away.

My guess is that he and his friends are more the exception than the rule when it comes to the impact of Covid and social media on teens.  And I think those that may be a bit more introverted were likely even more severely impacted as the opportunity to develop friendships at a key time in their development was thwarted.

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21 minutes ago, Frank Drebin said:

I have read her book on this issue.  I don't think this book has anything to do with the woke versus non-woke culture wars.

In her own words.

 

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2 hours ago, 956 Worldwide said:

The house size thing (I also have a violent reaction to saying we build “homes” and not “houses”) is not just unrealistic consumptionism. Zoning and NIMBY has made it damn near impossible to profitably build smaller.  All those post-War American dream suburbs couldn’t be built in most cases. More “fuck you, I want my house value to go up” mentality. 

As a builder, small homes just aren't profitable. It costs just as much to plumb a 2 1/2 bath 2000 square foot home as a 2 1/2 bath 3200 square foot home. Plumbers charge by the fixture (or hole). Garage doors, lot cost, appliances, etc. are going to cost the same but you have much less square feet to spread the cost across. Spending 6 months driving 15 minutes each way, each day to GC and check on the progress just isn't worth the $10-20k in profit, especially since you have to warranty all of the work.

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6 minutes ago, CHIEF said:

As a builder, small homes just aren't profitable. It costs just as much to plumb a 2 1/2 bath 2000 square foot home as a 2 1/2 bath 3200 square foot home. Plumbers charge by the fixture (or hole). Garage doors, lot cost, appliances, etc. are going to cost the same but you have much less square feet to spread the cost across. Spending 6 months driving 15 minutes each way, each day to GC and check on the progress just isn't worth the $10-20k in profit, especially since you have to warranty all of the work.

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All that is certainly true.  Match that up with our "all housing zoning should be for single family only," and you have the resulting housing shitshow.  Imagine building that SAME 3200 sf structure, for the same cost, and same profit per sf.....but it's TWO 1600 sf homes instead of one 3200 sf home.  In most places, you simply can't do that.  It's not allowed.  Whether the consequences of our regulatory scheme are intended or unintended, the consequences are the same.

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10 minutes ago, F250 said:

In her own words.

 

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Or, instead posting tweets, you could figure out what her actual arguments are and respond to them. She makes valid and thoughtful points. It' pretty hard to criticize an argument with which you have no familiarity.

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5 minutes ago, Thetexashammer said:

Or, instead posting tweets, you could figure out what her actual arguments are and respond to them. She makes valid and thoughtful points. It' pretty hard to criticize an argument with which you have no familiarity.

Man you have some wild takes (and I'm happy to cite my sources on that) but this is bullshit. I do not have to study all of nazi ideology to know that it's bullshit and evil. I do not have to study all of her rants about WOKE(!!!!) to know that it's hollow culture war drek. 

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2 hours ago, Helobious said:

There’s 0 whataburgers in the world where a justaburger only costs $1.

 

1 hour ago, F250 said:

Yeah, I believe they removed the Justaburger from the menu years ago and replaced it with the Whataburger Jr. which costs several dollars not $1.

We’ll fuck me, I’m joining the disgruntled yoots.  I used to stop and get 5 or so on road trips. Easy to eat with one hand and cheap af.  This is depressing. 

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1 minute ago, fattyflattie said:

 

We’ll fuck me, I’m joining the disgruntled yoots.  I used to stop and get 5 or so on road trips. Easy to eat with one hand and cheap af.  This is depressing. 

Fast food is not cheap these days.  Other than occasional Chic Fil A, the cost plus the calories make it really easy to skip for me.

I can literally order a pound of chicken fajitas that comes with sides for pretty close to the cost of Whataburger to feed our family of four.  And with the fajitas, there is usually enough rice, beans, and tortillas left over (and sometimes chicken), where I can get a couple work lunches out of it.

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1 minute ago, fattyflattie said:

 

We’ll fuck me, I’m joining the disgruntled yoots.  I used to stop and get 5 or so on road trips. Easy to eat with one hand and cheap af.  This is depressing. 

You can still get a justaburger, the meal costs like $5.30 and a justaburger by itself like $3.20 or something maybe. So your road-trip meal would run you over $16 now instead of $5.

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Just now, Helobious said:

You can still get a justaburger, the meal costs like $5.30 and a justaburger by itself like $3.20 or something maybe. So your road-trip meal would run you over $16 now instead of $5.

But there's no price gouging happening amirite

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In the USA, parents try way too hard to fend off anything negative or challenging for their kids. They don't want them to get hurt, lose in a sports game or even walk alone to school without a tracker. She talks about mothers of college-aged women tracking their daughter's periods on iphone apps.  Crazy shit. Those "bulldozer parents" are causing serious mental damage to their children instead of keeping them "safe".

One reason she hypothesizes for this change is parents have less kids than they used to.  So they hyperfocus on the ones they did have.  My grandparents had 5 kids.  They could not micromanage their lives.  There was not enough time.

Also, in the book she mentions an instance of a kid's cat dying, and then sending the kid to therapy to "deal with it". She discusses that therapy has been traditionally been seen as a zero downside deal. At best, it might help, at worst, it kinda does nothing. She's challenging that notion that it can have negative side effects. What Shrier harps on in the book is iatrogenesis. Meaning harm brought forth BY the healer. She’s merely suggesting that by introducing therapy or a therapeutic approach to deal with very regular childhood dilemma causes more harm than good.

Our kids are getting more and more therapy than they ever have, and not so coincidentally, they have the worst mental health they’ve ever had. This generation of kids is more anxious and less able to do for themselves than any generation before.

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1 hour ago, F250 said:

I've seen others mention this but it hasn't been my observation. I have three sons, two were in high school during Covid and the oldest was in college.

All of them dated throughout high school, had an established social group, frequently attended events with friends and in groups of couples.

I remember a conversation I had with a group of my son's friends the summer before his H.S. junior year. They were talking smack about of their friends not hanging out as much anymore because he is always with his girlfriend.

Having experienced this dynamic as a youth, I informed my son and his friends that any of them would choose to spend time with a girlfriend over a bunch of dudes. I told them it's always the first one in the group that gets in a serious relationship that catches all the flack because the rest of you don't know what it's like. A year later they were all coupled up except one kid that they were always trying to setup with someone. It was the same way with my group of friends in the 90s.

As far as social media is concerned, they frequently used it to arrange in person get togethers or stay in contact with friends that moved away.

Agree ,my bashing of social media is the addictive nature of “reels” , the “fringe / conspiracy” non credible news sources and “look at how cool I am and how bad your life sucks” influencer component . As for connecting w friends keeping up with friends it’s great . I never had a problem finding the party on a Friday night in HS with out a phone or a pager - I honestly don’t know how we did it . I’m not a Luddite and realize there was bullying , cliques and teen depression well before social media, however the additive component that’s built into them can consume the youth and is olds before we even realize it’s happened. 

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5 minutes ago, Captainant said:

But there's no price gouging happening amirite

Everything should be provided to us for free for existing!!1!1. Billionaires should pay for it all.  I participate in 401k and other investments but will act like I don’t know how they work.  

There, I got your next 10 posts covered.   Saved us all some time, so you can think harder about why nobody here (anywhere) wants to live in a little duplex next to duplex house people and drive shitbox cars and eat cheap food.  

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1 minute ago, Frank Drebin said:

In the USA, parents try way too hard to fend off anything negative or challenging for their kids. They don't want them to get hurt, lose in a sports game or even walk alone to school without a tracker. She talks about mothers of college-aged women tracking their daughter's periods on iphone apps.  Crazy shit. Those "bulldozer parents" are causing serious mental damage to their children instead of keeping them "safe".

What an incredible string of extreme anecdotes, artfully woven together to broadly mischaracterize an entire generation of parents and cast them as enemies of the culture war. 

I'm sure those things have actually happened in a handful of singleton instances, but you're getting started early on the drinking if you think that's an honest and realistic representation. 

4 minutes ago, Frank Drebin said:

Our kids are getting more and more therapy than they ever have, and not so coincidentally, they have the worst mental health they’ve ever had. This generation of kids is more anxious and less able to do for themselves than any generation before.

No idea why kids in the country could be so anxious and uncomfortable nowadays. They do school shooting drills every semester, so they have it drilled into them from a young age what to do while the cops don't save them! Why isn't that a source of comfort for them... 

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11 minutes ago, Captainant said:

But there's no price gouging happening amirite

You think selling a burger for $1 is a profitable enterprise? The ketchup and slice of cheese alone is probably $.75 in raw material costs.

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1 minute ago, fattyflattie said:

Everything should be provided to us for free for existing!!1!1. Billionaires should pay for it all.  I participate in 401k and other investments but will act like I don’t know how they work.  

There, I got your next 10 posts covered.   Saved us all some time, so you can think harder about why nobody here (anywhere) wants to live in a little duplex next to duplex house people and drive shitbox cars and eat cheap food.  

Lol. Remember basic sustenance should not be a profit center!

 

Let's take the business out of producing mass quantities of food for the population. Maybe even hand the power over to the government. Not a bad idea. Has anyone thought of that before?

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1 minute ago, Frank Drebin said:

In the USA, parents try way too hard to fend off anything negative or challenging for their kids. They don't want them to get hurt, lose in a sports game or even walk alone to school without a tracker. She talks about mothers of college-aged women tracking their daughter's periods on iphone apps.  Crazy shit. Those "bulldozer parents" are causing serious mental damage to their children instead of keeping them "safe".

One reason she hypothesizes for this change is parents have less kids than they used to.  So they hyperfocus on the ones they did have.  My grandparents had 5 kids.  They could not micromanage their lives.  There was not enough time.

Also, in the book she mentions an instance of a kid's cat dying, and then sending the kid to therapy to "deal with it". She discusses that therapy has been traditionally been seen as a zero downside deal. At best, it might help, at worst, it kinda does nothing. She's challenging that notion that it can have negative side effects. What Shrier harps on in the book is iatrogenesis. Meaning harm brought forth BY the healer. She’s merely suggesting that by introducing therapy or a therapeutic approach to deal with very regular childhood dilemma causes more harm than good.

Our kids are getting more and more therapy than they ever have, and not so coincidentally, they have the worst mental health they’ve ever had. This generation of kids is more anxious and less able to do for themselves than any generation before.

Yeah, this is something we struggle with in my household.  My oldest does have some legit issues, but my wife adds on more.  But she's just a protective mamma bear.  My wife grew up thinking the oldest had it the toughest and the baby had it the easiest.  Because that was her experience.  She was the oldest of 4 girls and had to help raise the younger three because her mom was busy working and the Dad was a full-time rancher and farmer.  Now she sees that our oldest and her friends that are the oldest have it easier because the parents smother them with attention and protection.  And to your point, the just having less kids thing has a lot do with it.  We simply don't need larger families anymore so each kid gets more attention and there's a lot less intra-sibling 'caregiving', if that makes sense.  

But to be fair to these kids, they are preceded by three generations of fucking assholes in this country.  After my daughter's last volleyball game, they gave out little medals to each team.  And a dad next to me rolled his eyes and said something to the effect of, "Oh great, participation medals.  How are these kids ever gonna learn to deal with adversity?"  And I thought, "Uh, have you ever heard of Real Life?"  There's still plenty of shit that's gonna push them down, especially if they're girls.  It just comes in different forms in different generations.  I also think of my neighbor who pushes his son so damn hard (camps, touring teams, clinics, specialized coaching) into basketball and thinks he can get a scholarship for college playing.  And all parenting advice aside, I have to stop myself from telling him, "Dude, you're 5'9"...your wife and daughters are tiny.  Your son will be lucky to hit 5'10", maybe recalibrate your expectations."  But I just smile and introduce him to people who may be able to help.  

But yeah, one thing that is truly unique to this generation is social media and it's something we still need to get our arms around.  The yelling at clouds/in my day/uphill both ways/these kids today is still a part of my, but we have to come to grips with what's coming because it's already here and it's changing by the day.

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3 minutes ago, BeardIP said:

You think selling a burger for $1 is a profitable enterprise? The ketchup and slice of cheese alone is probably $.75 in raw material costs.

 

2 minutes ago, Cum Rocket said:

Lol. Remember basic sustenance should not be a profit center!

 

Let's take the business out of producing mass quantities of food for the population. Maybe even hand the power over to the government. Not a bad idea. Has anyone thought of that before?

Heading off this straw man at the pass: I am not arguing whataburger is "basic sustenance" or that you can sell a burger for $1 and keep a business open. But a $5 meal turning into a $16 meal is bullshit. Prices don't scale geometrically, at least not if you're running your restaurant business like a person with a brain. 

It's wild how much y'all jump to defend profiteering and gouging. Use your fucking eyes dudes. Consumer prices tripling isn't just "input costs going up".

 

But I guess the surly IDW bat signal has gone off, appropriately so with the actual IDW Jordan Peterson invocation lol. 

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8 minutes ago, Cum Rocket said:

Lol. Remember basic sustenance should not be a profit center!

 

Let's take the business out of producing mass quantities of food for the population. Maybe even hand the power over to the government. Not a bad idea. Has anyone thought of that before?

Would definitely help solve the obesity crisis in America.

You can't eat or drink double the amount of calories you burn, you won't be as fat.

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4 minutes ago, Captainant said:

 

Heading off this straw man at the pass: I am not arguing... that you can sell a burger for $1 and keep a business open. But a $5 meal turning into a $16 meal is bullshit. Prices don't scale geometrically, at least not if you're running your restaurant business like a person with a brain. 

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The guy was literally talking about buying 5 burgers for $5 ($1/piece) for a $5 meal. 

To which you implied companies are price gouging.

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3 minutes ago, BeardIP said:

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The guy was literally talking about buying 5 burgers for $5 ($1/piece) for a $5 meal. 

As discussed, those burgers are $3.50 now so it would be a $17.50 meal.

 

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5 hours ago, Helobious said:

It was definitely damaging but I don’t know how much I buy into the Covid shutdown angle. Half the country was operating pretty close to normal just 2-3 months after March 2020. I mean I can even recall being in crowded restaurants and bars in Seattle of all places in November 2020. I definitely don’t recall everything being shutdown for “a year and a half”. 

That's because you weren't aged 4-18, where the primary social and developmental foundation is done at school, where you learn to socialize with peers and be a human being. Those kids were home for a year and a half, trying to learn on zoom classes every day, and there have been 100 books already written on how fucked those kids are developmentall. As usual, you're completely out of your element, Donnie. 

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Just now, SydneyCarton said:

That's because you weren't aged 4-18, where the primary social and developmental foundation is done at school, where you learn to socialize with peers and be a human being. Those kids were home for a year and a half, trying to learn on zoom classes every day, and there have been 100 books already written on how fucked those kids are developmentall. As usual, you're completely out of your element, Donnie. 

Correct, and it went higher in age than 18. My daughters university was remote for her first year. So she lost 18 months in person. Last Semester of HS and first year of college. And then there was an adjustment getting back into rhythm. So maybe 24 months of dislocation from what was normal. Son was in University already. Lost his Senior year in person. So he sat on his ass and talked to his friends on social media. Next thing I know he is being prescribed aderall vs. being told to go out into nature and do some physical shit.

 

4 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

That's because you weren't aged 4-18, where the primary social and developmental foundation is done at school, where you learn to socialize with peers and be a human being. Those kids were home for a year and a half, trying to learn on zoom classes every day, and there have been 100 books already written on how fucked those kids are developmentall. As usual, you're completely out of your element, Donnie. 

And based on some of his postings, are we sure he is not in that age group and just pretending?

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Just for fun here’s the chart of McDonalds earnings per share over time using it as a simple proxy for fast food prices/business. 

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Has gone from pre Covid peak of 7.88 to 11.56. A 46% increase. 

CPI cumulative increase in that time is mid to upper 20s I believe. If you count CPI as bulletproof then that's a difference in the upper teens, percentage wise. Is that gouging? Judgment call I guess. If you think cpi underestimates inflation then definitely not. Either way, burgers don't cost $5 to make. 

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6 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

That's because you weren't aged 4-18, where the primary social and developmental foundation is done at school, where you learn to socialize with peers and be a human being. Those kids were home for a year and a half, trying to learn on zoom classes every day, and there have been 100 books already written on how fucked those kids are developmentall. As usual, you're completely out of your element, Donnie. 

The people that ran covid response fucking wrecked this country. Good thing they're being held to account!

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15 minutes ago, Cum Rocket said:

The people that ran covid response fucking wrecked this country. Good thing they're being held to account!

Lots of people are waiting for Donald Trump to be held to account, for a lot of things, but you're right, some of this does squarely fall on his shoulders.

Oh, not what you meant? That's ok, you can get fucked anyway. 

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That's because you weren't aged 4-18, where the primary social and developmental foundation is done at school, where you learn to socialize with peers and be a human being. Those kids were home for a year and a half, trying to learn on zoom classes every day, and there have been 100 books already written on how fucked those kids are developmentall. As usual, you're completely out of your element, Donnie. 

They're not fucked; They're just behind. 18 is the new 16, so college freshmen lack some of the skills we took for granted when my mother dropped me in front of Simkins and didn't communicate for a month. They'll catch up eventually, or maybe be fucked.
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22 minutes ago, Cum Rocket said:

Just for fun here’s the chart of McDonalds earnings per share over time using it as a simple proxy for fast food prices/business. 

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Has gone from pre Covid peak of 7.88 to 11.56. A 46% increase. 

CPI cumulative increase in that time is mid to upper 20s I believe. If you count CPI as bulletproof then that's a difference in the upper teens, percentage wise. Is that gouging? Judgment call I guess. If you think cpi underestimates inflation then definitely not. Either way, burgers don't cost $5 to make. 

No CR, but that massive dip in late 2017, wasn't Trump's fault.  It was because they refused to bring back the McRib so me and Brisket organized a nationwide boycott.  

20 minutes ago, Cum Rocket said:

The people that ran covid response fucking wrecked this country. Good thing they're being held to account!

Remind me who ran the Executive Branch from December 2019 to January 2021 when the virus ran rampant and the response was turbo-fucked again you fucking Combo Four Fucking Failure?  

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17 minutes ago, Foosters said:

Agreed. Those 91 felony counts will be hard to beat.

 

8 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Lots of people are waiting for Donald Trump to be held to account, for a lot of things, but you're right, some of this does squarely fall on his shoulders.

Oh, not what you meant? That's ok, you can get fucked anyway. 

 

2 minutes ago, YGIFS said:

No CR, but that massive dip in late 2017, wasn't Trump's fault.  It was because they refused to bring back the McRib so me and Brisket organized a nationwide boycott.  

Remind me who ran the Executive Branch from December 2019 to January 2021 when the virus ran rampant and the response was turbo-fucked again you fucking Combo Four Fucking Failure?  

Oh he was definitely part of the problem and I include him. But way to jump to conclusions guys. Good job. 

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