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11 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

SEC will have 4 minimum. I don’t know where the thought comes from that we’ll have 3, because it’s literally impossible or a 0.0000001% chance of occurring. I doubt they get 5. 

Incredibly hard to fathom we’re in with a loss at A&M. We’ll drop considerably and after CCG day, we’d be 13 or worse.  I give it a 0% chance. 

No he’s not at all. He’s 100% correct. 

Absolutely Ole Miss would jump us. They just smoked UGA. If we’re in a 10-2 dick measuring contest, we’re behind UGA, Ole Miss, and Bama. All have far superior SOS and all have much better wins. This shouldn’t be an argument. 

Sec will get 5 if noter dame loses. 
SEC could get 5 if it breaks the right way and Indiana loses by 50 to OSU

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9 minutes ago, LonghornSean said:

They did. But at least right now, a major talking point in CFB media is resume stacking and big wins. I’ve listened to two separate podcasts from today where they went down the list of SEC contenders and repeatedly mention Texas having no big wins or even ranked wins on its resume, and talk about the A&M/Texas loser being out of the CFP.

Number of losses and quality wins are the dominant factors, at least as far as media discussion. Who you lost to is not the top consideration. I’ll also add that our laying an egg against Georgia is also brought up a lot. Had that game appeared more competitive (even though I think it WAS more competitive than it seemed), I don’t think we’d be catching as much skepticism.

Fortunately the media does not determine the rankings, the committee does, and they’ve ranked us favorably so far. But being a beauty contest with Ole Miss and Tennessee for the final at-large spot could be problematic for us.

The annoying thing to me is that the media seems to just bray no top 25 wins and neglect how we've looked in most of our wins.  Our offense didn't show up against Georgia and should have handled Vandy and Arkansas more easily but the way we've blown out everyone else on the schedule deserves consideration.  But we're still #3 in both polls, so I guess the naysayers aren't gaining too much traction yet.

And if you take anything beyond a cursory look at our defense, we obviously belong.  I think we get to 11-1 though and this is mostly moot.

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32 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

Ole Miss lost to two teams that are currently unranked.

This is an overlooked point in all the talk about quality wins. Maybe we are deficient on that measure, but we sure as hell have ZERO shitty losses.

No, I'm not touting a "quality loss", but I'm saying that there should be some penalization for shitty losses, especially if you have more than one.

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13 minutes ago, TrashMaster G said:

This is an overlooked point in all the talk about quality wins. Maybe we are deficient on that measure, but we sure as hell have ZERO shitty losses.

No, I'm not touting a "quality loss", but I'm saying that there should be some penalization for shitty losses, especially if you have more than one.

This.  what this says is Texas is consistent in beating everyone they are supposed to beat and the only win that was slightly a problem was Vandy because refs and Quinn somewhat kept them in what should have been a 14-20 point win.

what it says about Ole Miss is they could lose to anyone on any day.

We had one bad half of football against a top 10 team.

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32 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Counterpoint:  Sagarin has Ole Miss' SOS behind ours (#38 vs #44).  UGA and 'bama are well ahead (#1 and #9).

I don't care what you think of Sagarin.

Is that sos to this point or total? Bama played Mercer this week and uga plays umass next week. 

Posted
3 minutes ago, heso said:

Bama played Mercer this week and uga plays umass next week. 

That doesn't matter, you see.  A team is either top 25 or not top 25.

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39 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

Absolutely Ole Miss would jump us. They just smoked UGA. If we’re in a 10-2 dick measuring contest, we’re behind UGA, Ole Miss, and Bama. All have far superior SOS and all have much better wins. This shouldn’t be an argument. 

I can't figure out why you think any of this matters.

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4 minutes ago, Ignatius said:

 

I can’t figure out why you respond to that numb-nut jerkoff…

I can't figure out why you respond to that numb-nut jerkoff responding to that numb-nut jerkoff..

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The problem we would face in a 6 team tie is the head to heads. We aren't getting in over UGA. UGA isn't getting in over Ole Miss or Bama. Bama isn't getting in over Tenn. Tenn isn't getting in over UGA.

Like rock paper scissors, except we don't beat anyone. Easy solution is don't lose.

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11 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

I can't figure out why you respond to that numb-nut jerkoff responding to that numb-nut jerkoff..

I think the most accurate way to describe this situation is a numb-nut circle jerkoff, or N2CJo….

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Buncha fucking betas in this thread. Alabamas loss to vandy didn’t happen anymore. Tenn loss to Arkansas didn’t happen. Ole miss beat by Kentucky but who fkin cares huh. If we don’t make it in it’ll be because sec media are haters and don’t want us in over their traditionals. The narrative should be about our defense cause they are plenty good to win. Btw fuck Georgia, they dominated first half and we dominated second half. We can beat any of those teams fuck em all. 

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Posted (edited)
18 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

Yeah you know I think the CFP’s ratings aren’t going to suffer one bit. 

Texas will absolutely bring more eyeballs than Ole Miss or Tennessee.  and aggy.

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2 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

I don’t care. These are all hypotheticals. I don’t think we’re making CFP or SECCG with a loss in CS. I don’t think we lose, so I’m not gonna waste time worrying about the hypotheticals. But we won’t make it with a loss at A&M unless we get lucky as shit with hell breaking loose. 

You're worrying about a hypothetical.

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I guarantee if we ended up with wins against Ga and aggy and losses to kentucky and oklahoma. it would be all about Texas' losses to unranked team at home and neutral.

the same as last year when all the talking heads were focused on us v. FSU, when it was really about Bama v. FSU. It brings more eyeballs and interest to talk about Texas and if Joey Galloway or Kurt douchebag can do it while bagging on Texas, even better.

Lee Corso is the only guy who has stood by us.  Everyone else loves try to push us out(McElroy last year was at least evenhanded).

Time to make the chimichangas against stoops and aggy.

4 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

I don’t care. These are all hypotheticals. I don’t think we’re making CFP or SECCG with a loss in CS. I don’t think we lose, so I’m not gonna waste time worrying about the hypotheticals. But we won’t make it with a loss at A&M unless we get lucky as shit with hell breaking loose. 

well OK, then maybe this thread is not for you

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1 hour ago, Rex Kramer said:

 

Oh wow. Well, they’ve played and beaten UGA and murdered SC on the road. That’s better than anything we’ve done. Recency of UGA game combined with recency of A&M loss for us will move them ahead of us, easily. 

 

Yes but those aren’t likely. 3 is an impossibility. 

USC could easily beat UND. At USC. UND lost to northern Illinois man. 

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1 hour ago, Rex Kramer said:

There is little to no chance. 

We lacked the opportunities. Not our fault, except shitting the bed against UGA and A&M. I’d take big wins over conference losses to lesser teams all day long. Committee will too. If A&M wins they’d be in CCG. If they win (doubtful), they’re in. That’s worst case scenario. If they lose, they’re out, and we’d be in a 4-horse race against three of Bama, UGA, Ole Miss and Tenn (one of those four will be SEC champ). We do not stack up. 

See above. 

Also we don’t need all hell to break loose.  We need like 1 thing to happen out of 15 possible options. It’s probably likely at this point man. 

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Posted
5 hours ago, Horn of Gabriel said:

People thinking a 2-loss Texas because "brand" is a shoe-in need to step back.  In the 2-loss scenario where we lose to aggy, these are our comparables in the SEC:

10-2 aggy,  who would own H2H vs. Texas AND stronger SOS AND is a big brand in terms of TV viewership (not as big as Texas but not so big to make a difference when they own H2H)

10-2 UGA, who would own H2H vs. Texas AND stronger SOS AND top 25 wins vs. (16) Clemson, (11) Tennessee, AND is a 5* brand just like Texas

10-2 Tenn, whose SOS > Texas SOS AND has top 25 win vs. (7) Bama AND is a big brand

10-2 Bama, whose SOS > Texas SOS AND has top 25 win vs. (8) UGA AND is a big brand

10-2 Ole Miss, whose SOS > Texas SOS AND has top 25 win vs. (8) UGA

vs.

10-2 Texas, who has the lowest SOS of the group and zero top 25 wins and in this scenario has taken the latest regular-season loss (and if that loss is to aggy won't have the chance to redeem it in the SECCG).  We are a big brand though.

...SEC isn't getting 6 into the CFP.  Probably not five.  Who are the 2 you're leaving out of the list to put in Texas, if we lose to aggy?  In that scenario aggy and probably Bama play the SECCG so they're probably in.  2 more spots.  UGA gets one with the next-best resume.  1 spot left for Texas, Tenn, Ole Miss.  I guess we could squeak over Ole Miss, barely?

Just bringing up Tennessee SOS, they have the exact same schedule as we do in conference, swapping 2 loss Aggies with 2 loss Bama. Their OOC is Chattanooga FCS, NC state 5-5, Kent state 0-10, and UTEP 2-8.  Is that OOC any better than CSU 7-3, ULM 5-5, UTSA 5-5, and UM 5-5?  
 

Seems like a push at best, possibly our SOS might be a little higher 

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36 minutes ago, Treefidy said:

Just bringing up Tennessee SOS, they have the exact same schedule as we do in conference, swapping 2 loss Aggies with 2 loss Bama. Their OOC is Chattanooga FCS, NC state 5-5, Kent state 0-10, and UTEP 2-8.  Is that OOC any better than CSU 7-3, ULM 5-5, UTSA 5-5, and UM 5-5?  
 

Seems like a push at best, possibly our SOS might be a little higher 

Are you a moron?

our ooc is leaps and bounds better than Tenn.

a push?

they aren’t even in the same league, literally.

they played fcs and one of the 5 worst teams in FBS.

UTEP is one of the 15 worst.

its literally the equivalent of three FCS games, literal throw aways on the schedule.

UM was on the road against a top 25, power five defense.

CSU,A team who might very well play the top ranked G5 team in a CCG game and two other respectable, competitive G5 schools.

 

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3 minutes ago, Treefidy said:

swapping 2 loss Aggies with 2 loss Bama.

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Agree that on paper Texas/Tenn schedules aren't much different, but Tenn will get more credit for a Bama win than we do for a win over aggy.  Bama has a really good win (along with just being Bama) while aggy has no cache and no quality wins.  Obviously none of it matters unless we drop a game, but we better at least look like a playoff team down the stretch if we drop the CCG.  Just don't want to get into the 2 loss debate with a bunch of teams who all have head to head comps against each other.  

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15 minutes ago, TheYoungHorn said:

Are you a moron?

our ooc is leaps and bounds better than Tenn.

a push?

they aren’t even in the same league, literally.

they played fcs and one of the 5 worst teams in FBS.

UTEP is one of the 15 worst.

its literally the equivalent of three FCS games, literal throw aways on the schedule.

UM was on the road against a top 25, power five defense.

CSU,A team who might very well play the top ranked G5 team in a CCG game and two other respectable, competitive G5 schools.

 

Literally?

Literally?

Literal?

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People are dumb.

Sure if we’re only counting current CFP top 25 wins we’d be fucked, lucky for us other things are factored into it.

No one respects aggy, especially now that their big wins have up and vanished like a fart in the wind. Look at where they are ranked. If they beat us they aren’t jumping into the top 8. Then they lose to Bama/UGA or whoever they’ll fall right out again.

If they win out…

UGA is in. Big wins against Texas, Tennessee, Clemson, and no shitty loses.

Alabama is also likely in. Big win against UGA only one shitty loss to Vandy.

After that the committee will do whatever it wants and justify it after the fact like they always have.

Ole Miss is a smaller brand with one big win and two shitty loses and a worse SOS than Texas. I’d feel pretty confident going into a CFP beauty pageant against them, even with an aggy loss.

Not as sure about Tennessee but I doubt it matters.

Texas has no big wins but took care of business against Arkansas, Vandy and presumably Kentucky who all pulled upsets over Tennessee, Alabama, and Ole Miss respectively. That count for something.

As always, “just win” is the best advice. Win and it don’t make a shit what the talking heads say.

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4 hours ago, NeverMarryAStripper said:

Fucking shit piles.  I never knew vaginitis was so contagious.  Fuck the media.  Fuck the polls.  Fuck the goddamn CFP Committee.  We’re going to trample UK.  Then we’re going to ass fuck aggy with a rusty pitchfork until they pray for the ghost of Justin Tucker to kick them out of their misery.  Finally, we’re going to kick the shit out of whatever unfortunate sack of shit is forced to face us in the SEC Championship Game.  Then the media, pollsters, commentators, and the other dipshit hillbillies in this shitty ass conference can line up to lick Sark’s taint.

 

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The Georgia Bulldogs have had issues with the College Football Playoff selection committee rankings. In particular, with how this year’s selection committee has evaluated strength of schedule.

At times, Georgia’s frustrations have extended to Texas, a fellow member of the SEC. It’s rare that one conference member may be critical of another, but as Paul Finebaum explained on The Matt Barrie Show, the Bulldogs have expressed that frustration, and that talk does hold merit.

“For the Georgia people, and I’ve talked to Josh Brooks the athletic director who took a wild haymaker at the committee on Friday on our program and Kirby and all of the things that we’ve talked about,” Finebaum said. “They just looked at not only the schedule, and there was a little bit of talk about the Texas schedule from the Georgia people as well. I know that verboten in the SEC to talk about one of your brothers but I heard plenty of people say that Texas has had the easiest SEC schedule since Tulane was a member in the ’60s and I think you could back that up.”

This is Texas’ first season in the SEC. That expansion has ended divisions and has, seemingly, led to some uneven schedules in terms of difficulty. Georgia, for instance, has to play five games against currently ranked teams, including a non-conference game against Clemson. To this point, Texas’ only ranked opponent is Georgia, a game the Bulldogs won. The Longhorns will also play Texas A&M.

“But it was about that Clemson game,” Finebaum said. “They really are proud that they wrap their arms around playing schools like Oregon and Notre Dame and schools like that, even though last year, if you remember, they had the easiest schedule in the country. But I feel like they have been righted.”

With Georgia’s win over Tennessee, the Bulldogs are, likely, in a comfortable position to make it to the Playoff. Now, the question is about being prepared for that deep run.

“Kirby also talked about planning for the Playoff,” Finebaum said. “I mean, this is in the off-season. He essentially said we knew were going to lose a game or two. We just didn’t know to what degree. He was planning for a 16, 17, 18 game schedule, not the predictable 12 game schedule.”

For the time being, Texas remains the top-ranked team in the SEC. That is unlikely to change without the Longhorns suffering a second loss. However, the next rankings will be revealed on Tuesday night, adding some clarity on how the selection committee views these teams.

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1 hour ago, LTtxfan said:

 

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The Georgia Bulldogs have had issues with the College Football Playoff selection committee rankings. In particular, with how this year’s selection committee has evaluated strength of schedule.

At times, Georgia’s frustrations have extended to Texas, a fellow member of the SEC. It’s rare that one conference member may be critical of another, but as Paul Finebaum explained on The Matt Barrie Show, the Bulldogs have expressed that frustration, and that talk does hold merit.

“For the Georgia people, and I’ve talked to Josh Brooks the athletic director who took a wild haymaker at the committee on Friday on our program and Kirby and all of the things that we’ve talked about,” Finebaum said. “They just looked at not only the schedule, and there was a little bit of talk about the Texas schedule from the Georgia people as well. I know that verboten in the SEC to talk about one of your brothers but I heard plenty of people say that Texas has had the easiest SEC schedule since Tulane was a member in the ’60s and I think you could back that up.”

This is Texas’ first season in the SEC. That expansion has ended divisions and has, seemingly, led to some uneven schedules in terms of difficulty. Georgia, for instance, has to play five games against currently ranked teams, including a non-conference game against Clemson. To this point, Texas’ only ranked opponent is Georgia, a game the Bulldogs won. The Longhorns will also play Texas A&M.

“But it was about that Clemson game,” Finebaum said. “They really are proud that they wrap their arms around playing schools like Oregon and Notre Dame and schools like that, even though last year, if you remember, they had the easiest schedule in the country. But I feel like they have been righted.”

With Georgia’s win over Tennessee, the Bulldogs are, likely, in a comfortable position to make it to the Playoff. Now, the question is about being prepared for that deep run.

“Kirby also talked about planning for the Playoff,” Finebaum said. “I mean, this is in the off-season. He essentially said we knew were going to lose a game or two. We just didn’t know to what degree. He was planning for a 16, 17, 18 game schedule, not the predictable 12 game schedule.”

For the time being, Texas remains the top-ranked team in the SEC. That is unlikely to change without the Longhorns suffering a second loss. However, the next rankings will be revealed on Tuesday night, adding some clarity on how the selection committee views these teams.

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Predicts aggy beats Texas.  Then aggy loses to Bama -- both aggy and Texas miss out on the CFP playoffs.

College Football Playoff BRACKETOLOGY, Week 13 | CFP after BYU, Tennessee fall in BIG 12, SEC play

 

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1 hour ago, LTtxfan said:

Predicts aggy beats Texas.  Then aggy loses to Bama -- both aggy and Texas miss out on the CFP playoffs.

College Football Playoff BRACKETOLOGY, Week 13 | CFP after BYU, Tennessee fall in BIG 12, SEC play

 

So by their measure the only thing that matters is your best win and bad losses mean nothing. Even number of losses means nothing. Ole Miss and Tenn just getting shuffled right into the 7 & 10 spot without any discussion of their warts. Ole Miss has the win over uga, but they have 2 bad losses. And they have to be punished for that ooc schedule. Tenn has the win over bama, but got blasted by uga, lost to arky, got taken to OT by UF, was in a 1 score game late in the 4th with UK. 

Of all the bubble teams, the worst losses are ole miss to uk, bama to vandy, and tenn to ark. Plus they all have a second loss. But those guys don’t have any of them on the bubble, say that IU and psu both need to worry more than any of those teams with only 1 loss, that’s a “better” loss than any of those teams with 2 losses. UT is out despite not having a bad loss. Just because those 3 teams beat uga, who has looked really flawed at times. 

I just can’t see how Texas drops from 3 to 13 with a second loss, behind all of those other 2 loss teams, unless it’s a really ugly loss. 

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Those guys are morons. They’re talking about who you’d kick out to let army in if they win out beating notre dame and they conclude that you can’t kick out any of those teams for army.

You’d kick out fucking notre dame because they’d have two losses to army and northern Illinois. 

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12 hours ago, WBT said:

Might as well point out here I expect at least 1 of aggy vs Auburn, Ole Miss vs Florida, and Tenn vs Vandy will lose

I would wager that someone will lose in each of those games.

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I wouldn't bet my house that we'll beat A&M, although I think we will.  That said, just looking at very simple metrics, we are #1 in Total Defense and #18 in Total Offense, while A&M is #47 and #49, respectively.

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Are they bitching about Tennessee's SEC schedule?  Let's compare:

Texas          Tennessee

v. MSU        v. MSU

v. KT            v. KT

v. FLA          v. FLA

v. OU           @ OU

v. UGA         @ UGA

@ Arky        @ Arky

@ Vandy     @ Vandy

@ A&M       v. Bama

Hmmm.........

 

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Whether we beat aggy depends on which Quinn Ewers shows up. That 4th quarter drive in Fayetteville impressed me, and helped me feel less concern in the moment. The best thing would be for Texas to jump out to a huge lead, take the crowd out of it, and the horns coast to a comfortable 20+ win with Arch getting in a few reps. We have the defense to make that happen, but the offense can't be counted on to play up to its potential.

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8 minutes ago, Armybrat said:

How many times have we seen a big lead in the first half this season vs starting slow?

Big leads in the first half this year?

Texas 35, Florida 0

Texas 21, Oklahoma 3

Texas 28, UL Monroe 3

Texas 28, UTSA 7

Texas 24, Michigan 3

Texas 31, Colorado State 0

 

So, what--six of our nine wins?  

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12 hours ago, LTtxfan said:

 

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The Georgia Bulldogs have had issues with the College Football Playoff selection committee rankings. In particular, with how this year’s selection committee has evaluated strength of schedule.

At times, Georgia’s frustrations have extended to Texas, a fellow member of the SEC. It’s rare that one conference member may be critical of another, but as Paul Finebaum explained on The Matt Barrie Show, the Bulldogs have expressed that frustration, and that talk does hold merit.

“For the Georgia people, and I’ve talked to Josh Brooks the athletic director who took a wild haymaker at the committee on Friday on our program and Kirby and all of the things that we’ve talked about,” Finebaum said. “They just looked at not only the schedule, and there was a little bit of talk about the Texas schedule from the Georgia people as well. I know that verboten in the SEC to talk about one of your brothers but I heard plenty of people say that Texas has had the easiest SEC schedule since Tulane was a member in the ’60s and I think you could back that up.”

This is Texas’ first season in the SEC. That expansion has ended divisions and has, seemingly, led to some uneven schedules in terms of difficulty. Georgia, for instance, has to play five games against currently ranked teams, including a non-conference game against Clemson. To this point, Texas’ only ranked opponent is Georgia, a game the Bulldogs won. The Longhorns will also play Texas A&M.

“But it was about that Clemson game,” Finebaum said. “They really are proud that they wrap their arms around playing schools like Oregon and Notre Dame and schools like that, even though last year, if you remember, they had the easiest schedule in the country. But I feel like they have been righted.”

With Georgia’s win over Tennessee, the Bulldogs are, likely, in a comfortable position to make it to the Playoff. Now, the question is about being prepared for that deep run.

“Kirby also talked about planning for the Playoff,” Finebaum said. “I mean, this is in the off-season. He essentially said we knew were going to lose a game or two. We just didn’t know to what degree. He was planning for a 16, 17, 18 game schedule, not the predictable 12 game schedule.”

For the time being, Texas remains the top-ranked team in the SEC. That is unlikely to change without the Longhorns suffering a second loss. However, the next rankings will be revealed on Tuesday night, adding some clarity on how the selection committee views these teams.

of course when the schedule was made everyone thought Georgia would be beating everyone 50-0 and play name the score with Texas, Florida would be tough, Kentucky/Stoops was gonna be really good, and 3 "Rivalry" games(2 away and 1 neutral).

Pawl is a dickmunch.

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1 minute ago, Ghost of LL said:

Big leads in the first half this year?

Texas 35, Florida 0

Texas 21, Oklahoma 3

Texas 28, UL Monroe 3

Texas 28, UTSA 7

Texas 24, Michigan 3

Texas 31, Colorado State 0

 

So, what--six of our nine wins?  

Not enough.

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1 minute ago, Ghost of LL said:

Big leads in the first half this year?

Texas 35, Florida 0

Texas 21, Oklahoma 3

Texas 28, UL Monroe 3

Texas 28, UTSA 7

Texas 24, Michigan 3

Texas 31, Colorado State 0

 

So, what--six of our nine wins?  

And the other wins: 

Miss St - 14-6
Vandy - 21-10
Arky - 10-0

We've held a double digit halftime lead in 8 of 9 wins. 

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