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22 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:


Or, counterpoint: allow Republican accelerationist destruction to do its thing and kill them in droves. An eliminated GQP vote is an eliminated GQP vote. And I’m done with giving a shit about them. What has empathy gotten us? Just taken advantage of.

Did they know about the empathy? Did anybody tell them?

This has been going on for 30 years and I haven’t seen one campaign that led with “this place is dying and you voted for it.”

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30 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

The GOP does really well among the uneducated in rural areas because a lot of the people who stay there are dumb and lazy and the GOP indulges in their desire to blame their lot on someone else. You’re no more than a two hour drive from a place where you can get a job and everything doesn’t suck, if you can’t figure it out and choose to stay there and put your kids in shitty schools, you’re not reachable by Democrats with policy solutions. 

Spot on. The goal is to figure out how to blame their life circumstance on the GOP. 

Try posting a laundry list of things the Democrats wanted rural folks to have, compared with the laundry list that their local congressman voted against.

“If your daughter or granddaughter dies because an ectopic pregnancy can’t get treated because your representative prohibited procedures to save her life, remember that the Democrats wanted her to live.”

But guess what ?  All of that maybe will get you 3 to 5% on your best day.  They have been brainwashed with alternative facts for decades, even if they aren’t active cult members.

They aren’t going to blame Trump, so you need to start running ads saying “Democrats would never let Elon Musk decide what parts of the federal government to dismantle. Vote for us one time so we can stop him using an ax when you need a scalpel”

10% might vote for you one time if they think they can keep their job.

 

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2 hours ago, Gatorubet said:

Spot on. The goal is to figure out how to blame their life circumstance on the GOP. 

This is exactly right.

2 hours ago, Gatorubet said:

Try posting a laundry list of things the Democrats wanted rural folks to have, compared with the laundry list that their local congressman voted against.

See I think this is too much.  The lawyerly impulse to cite evidence is great for court but dilutes clear themes for Democrats. As usual, I think Trump had the right approach when he told groups that Democrats take for granted “what the hell do you have to lose?”

Democrats should say that, except to rural and exurban whites.

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27 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

This is exactly right.

See I think this is too much.  The lawyerly impulse to cite evidence is great for court but dilutes clear themes for Democrats. As usual, I think Trump had the right approach when he told groups that Democrats take for granted “what the hell do you have to lose?”

Democrats should say that, except to rural and exurban whites.

How about "Republicans have been in charge here for 35 years.  Is your life better than it was 35 years ago?  Didn't think so.  Let's try something else."

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1 minute ago, TwiceHorn said:

How about "Republicans have been in charge here for 35 years.  Is your life better than it was 35 years ago?  Didn't think so.  Let's try something else."

Rejoinder: Obama and liberal judges. 

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Posted
3 hours ago, 956 Worldwide said:

The GOP does really well among the uneducated in rural areas because a lot of the people who stay there are dumb and lazy and the GOP indulges in their desire to blame their lot on someone else. You’re no more than a two hour drive from a place where you can get a job and everything doesn’t suck, if you can’t figure it out and choose to stay there and put your kids in shitty schools, you’re not reachable by Democrats with policy solutions. 

I would love to be on the other side of this argument, but I wouldn't believe a word I was saying. You're right.

I've mentioned a terrific article in Atlantic a couple of months ago about the Kingdom Christians. In Vanity Fair with Selena Gomez on the cover, there's a great and demoralizing article about the Catholic Right that starts with Candace Owens' conversion and expands from there. 

Between the Catholics and the Protestant hate movements, I don't see much room for persuading these people of anything. If you're local preacher/priest or lay person has told you that Trumpist hate politics are the will of God, and you believe it, I don't see convincing you of the relative advantages of policy.

Writing the above reminded me of Adam Schiff's voice against Trump. Still breaks my heart.

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Can any of us really have the confidence that Donald Trump will put his personal interests ahead of the national interests? Is there really any evidence in this presidency that should give us the ironclad confidence that he would do so? Adam Schiff: (06:00) You know you can't count on him to do that. That's the sad truth. You know you can't count on him to do that.

The American people deserve a President they can count on to put their interests first, to put their interests first. Colonel Vindman said, "Here, right matters. Here, right matters." Well, let me tell you something, if right doesn't matter, if right doesn't matter, it doesn't matter how good the Constitution is. It doesn't matter how brilliant the framers were. Doesn't matter how good or bad our advocacy in this trial is. Doesn't matter how well written the Oath of Impartiality is. If right doesn't matter, we're lost.

Adam Schiff: (07:14) If the truth doesn't matter, we're lost. Framers couldn't protect us from ourselves, if right and truth don't matter. And you know that what he did was not right. That's what they do in the old country, that Colonel Vindman's father came from. Or the old country that my great grandfather came from, or the old countries that your ancestors came from, or maybe you came from.

But here, right is supposed to matter. It's what's made us the greatest nation on earth. No constitution can protect us, right doesn't matter any more. And you know you can't trust this President to do what's right for this country. You can trust he will do what's right for Donald Trump. He'll do it now. He's done it before. He'll do it for the next several months. He'll do it in the election if he's allowed to. This is why if you find him guilty, you must find that he should be removed. Because right matters. Because right matters and the truth matters. Otherwise, we are lost.

So, to the Trumpists in the hinterlands:

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And I know his fate.

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Posted (edited)
12 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

How about "Republicans have been in charge here for 35 years.  Is your life better than it was 35 years ago?  Didn't think so.  Let's try something else."

Decent but Democrats need to be attention grabbing, and that takes shock. It would also be smart to start co-opting their words, e.g: “Texas is dying. What the hell do you have to lose?” And “Make Texas Great Again.”

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47 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

 

This story is 100% true. Yesterday we were coming back from the Legends Event Center in Bryan. My daughter's volleyball club pulled her up from the 17u team to 18u so they could win a bid to go to nationals, which they did. We are passing by the Death Star and my daughter says she wants to drive through their campus. So we go by the Dixie Chicken, and then cut through their campus sports complex. She is making fun of it the whole time. Where are the trees. Pretty nice for a cult and all that. These are her own conclusions from what she knows of kids who went there and came home to visit. We come up on a wall where someone has painted an upside down longhorn with "saw em off" on it. She starts asking why they are so obsessed with UT.

So we get home and she is telling the wife about it. I realize she knows nothing of Yell Leaders. So we sit down and I pull up a Youtube video of a midnight yell. She watches, mouth agape, periodically yelling out "what the hell!". We get to the part where one of the yell leaders does a few moves then those jazz hands they do while spinning and going to a knee. My daughter, junior in high school, gets up and repeats it while putting a little extra femininity on it..

My daughter- "Look at the little fairy boy", she says while recreating the dance in our family room

 Me- No. It's a huge deal to be a yell leader there. Dudes have been lining up to be one for 100 years

My daughter- There is no way that dude is straight

Wife- He is straight

My daughter- They probably go back to the locker room and whack each other off. "My girlfriend doesn't do it like you", she says in her best boy voice

Me-  Bust out laughing

Wife- trying not to laugh(doesn't wanna encourage that kind of talk), and not choke on her drink, "We don't talk like that!"

Daughter- I'm just saying....

 

Happened last night. Teenage girls are brutal.


Such a target rich environment with a.) daughter b.) 17 yo daughter at that c.) volleyball daughter and the mental image that brings up d.) whacking off dudes talk e.) aggy hating volleyball daughter who talks of whacking off dudes and f.) wife too?

To honor of the upcoming Passover holiday, I am skipping over this post as to not somehow bring plague upon my posts.

Let he who has broken no rule, post the first reply.

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Posted
2 hours ago, Thatguy said:

 

This story is 100% true. Yesterday we were coming back from the Legends Event Center in Bryan. My daughter's volleyball club pulled her up from the 17u team to 18u so they could win a bid to go to nationals, which they did. We are passing by the Death Star and my daughter says she wants to drive through their campus. So we go by the Dixie Chicken, and then cut through their campus sports complex. She is making fun of it the whole time. Where are the trees. Pretty nice for a cult and all that. These are her own conclusions from what she knows of kids who went there and came home to visit. We come up on a wall where someone has painted an upside down longhorn with "saw em off" on it. She starts asking why they are so obsessed with UT.

So we get home and she is telling the wife about it. I realize she knows nothing of Yell Leaders. So we sit down and I pull up a Youtube video of a midnight yell. She watches, mouth agape, periodically yelling out "what the hell!". We get to the part where one of the yell leaders does a few moves then those jazz hands they do while spinning and going to a knee. My daughter, junior in high school, gets up and repeats it while putting a little extra femininity on it..

My daughter- "Look at the little fairy boy", she says while recreating the dance in our family room

 Me- No. It's a huge deal to be a yell leader there. Dudes have been lining up to be one for 100 years

My daughter- There is no way that dude is straight

Wife- He is straight

My daughter- They probably go back to the locker room and whack each other off. "My girlfriend doesn't do it like you", she says in her best boy voice

Me-  Bust out laughing

Wife- trying not to laugh(doesn't wanna encourage that kind of talk), and not choke on her drink, "We don't talk like that!"

Daughter- I'm just saying....

 

Happened last night. Teenage girls are brutal.


I remember seeing this live and was on a game thread back in the day. They are their own punchline.

 

 

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Posted
10 hours ago, Horn Dog said:

“Billionaires are the REAL ‘they’.  They will NEVER be for you!”

So this has been bothering me for the last month. People say Billionaires as if it's some huge list of people. Just list the actual billionaires every time who are benefiting directly from some policy or whatever is going on. 

When you frame it as "the billionaires" it makes them seem like some huge group of people. It's just a handful of mostly horrible and evil pieces of shit. 

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Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, Dnaguy said:


Such a target rich environment with a.) daughter b.) 17 yo daughter at that c.) volleyball daughter and the mental image that brings up d.) whacking off dudes talk e.) aggy hating volleyball daughter who talks of whacking off dudes and f.) wife too?

To honor of the upcoming Passover holiday, I am skipping over this post as to not somehow bring plague upon my posts.

Let he who has broken no rule, post the first reply.

All correct. However, we cannot assume she is 17 as it’s a 17U club she’s on. If she is 17 currently, I would like to wish her a happy 18th birthday. @Thatguy when might that be?

 

also, fairy boy is not the preferred nomenclature. 

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This story is 100% true. Yesterday we were coming back from the Legends Event Center in Bryan. My daughter's volleyball club pulled her up from the 17u team to 18u so they could win a bid to go to nationals, which they did. We are passing by the Death Star and my daughter says she wants to drive through their campus. So we go by the Dixie Chicken, and then cut through their campus sports complex. She is making fun of it the whole time. Where are the trees. Pretty nice for a cult and all that. These are her own conclusions from what she knows of kids who went there and came home to visit. We come up on a wall where someone has painted an upside down longhorn with "saw em off" on it. She starts asking why they are so obsessed with UT.
So we get home and she is telling the wife about it. I realize she knows nothing of Yell Leaders. So we sit down and I pull up a Youtube video of a midnight yell. She watches, mouth agape, periodically yelling out "what the hell!". We get to the part where one of the yell leaders does a few moves then those jazz hands they do while spinning and going to a knee. My daughter, junior in high school, gets up and repeats it while putting a little extra femininity on it..
My daughter- "Look at the little fairy boy", she says while recreating the dance in our family room
 Me- No. It's a huge deal to be a yell leader there. Dudes have been lining up to be one for 100 years
My daughter- There is no way that dude is straight
Wife- He is straight
My daughter- They probably go back to the locker room and whack each other off. "My girlfriend doesn't do it like you", she says in her best boy voice
Me-  Bust out laughing
Wife- trying not to laugh(doesn't wanna encourage that kind of talk), and not choke on her drink, "We don't talk like that!"
Daughter- I'm just saying....
 
Happened last night. Teenage girls are brutal.

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Posted
55 minutes ago, immamac said:

So this has been bothering me for the last month. People say Billionaires as if it's some huge list of people. Just list the actual billionaires every time who are benefiting directly from some policy or whatever is going on. 

When you frame it as "the billionaires" it makes them seem like some huge group of people. It's just a handful of mostly horrible and evil pieces of shit. 

Oligarchies indeed have a small number of ruling dickheads who should be stripped of all possessions and forced to wander the land forbidden help by any citizen.

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2 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:

Oligarchies indeed have a small number of ruling dickheads who should be stripped of all possessions and forced to wander the land forbidden help by any citizen.

There are less than 430 US Billionaires. 

Name them every time. 

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31 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:

Oligarchies indeed have a small number of ruling dickheads who should be stripped of all possessions and forced to wander the land forbidden help by any citizen.

What they really need is a constant reminder that the labor upon which their wealth is based can stop at any time.

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39 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

What they really need is a constant reminder that the labor upon which their wealth is based can stop at any time.

that would be a lot more attainable if the overwhelming labor model wasn't paycheck-to-paycheck

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Posted
2 hours ago, immamac said:

So this has been bothering me for the last month. People say Billionaires as if it's some huge list of people. Just list the actual billionaires every time who are benefiting directly from some policy or whatever is going on. 

When you frame it as "the billionaires" it makes them seem like some huge group of people. It's just a handful of mostly horrible and evil pieces of shit. 

According to Forbes, there are ~2550 billionaires in the world.

That makes up… does math…. 0.000000311% of the population. 
 

And they control roughly 3.3% of all individual wealth in the world.

Thats crazy.

 

 

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Posted
1 hour ago, David Dennison said:

What they really need is a constant reminder that the labor upon which their wealth is based can stop at any time.

If the labor does stop, who suffers more?  The billionaires or the labor?

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2 hours ago, Pato del Muerto said:

All correct. However, we cannot assume she is 17 as it’s a 17U club she’s on. If she is 17 currently, I would like to wish her a happy 18th birthday. @Thatguy when might that be?

 

also, fairy boy is not the preferred nomenclature. 

Yeah she is 16.

Posted
36 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

More importantly, they control 100% of the United States government.  That's the real fucking problem.  

Which is why I hate the Dutch!

Fuck those wooden shoe clad traitors and their tulip bulb Ponzi schemes!

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3 hours ago, immamac said:

So this has been bothering me for the last month. People say Billionaires as if it's some huge list of people. Just list the actual billionaires every time who are benefiting directly from some policy or whatever is going on. 

When you frame it as "the billionaires" it makes them seem like some huge group of people. It's just a handful of mostly horrible and evil pieces of shit. 

I don't disagree but was trying to come up with something that would fit on a bumper sticker.  Maybe replace "billionaire" with "E. Musk".  Dems need a simple relatable message to hammer over and over to the uneducated between now and midterms.

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4 hours ago, immamac said:

There are less than 430 US Billionaires. 

Name them every time. 

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Billionaires themselves are also wealthier, with two-thirds adding to their worth. The top 20 on the list gained the most, adding $700 billion to their combined worth since 2023. And the U.S. has a record 813 billionaires — the most of any country.

 

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/forbes-list-of-the-worlds-billionaires-2024-more-than-ever-before-wealthier-arnault-elon-musk-jeff-bezos/

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1 hour ago, GenXer said:

The villain is Big Tech. Hammer away the message consistently now until July 2026. Big Tech controls you. Big Tech is stealing your money. Big Tech is stealing your freedom. Over and over. Big tech becomes this vague thing that is the reason for personal failures.

Too amorphous and survey results indicate most people like technology companies more than people leading them.  People like Tesla and Instagram but are wary of Musk and Zuckerberg.  
 

The other part that’s hard to square is, in general, surveys favor less regulation than more (on the companies themselves).  You’re better off making billionaires the villain.  My only qualm there is this has been a public issues for Dems since the 90’s at least and the fact it doesn’t resonate more might mean a) all the juice has been wrung out or b) it only works if you have someone really awesome selling it.  
 

That said, at least you’re trying an economic message, and the Dems HAVE to get back to pulling in a fair share of the working class.  

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13 minutes ago, LCHorn said:

Too amorphous and survey results indicate most people like technology companies more than people leading them.  People like Tesla and Instagram but are wary of Musk and Zuckerberg.  
 

The other part that’s hard to square is, in general, surveys favor less regulation than more (on the companies themselves).  You’re better off making billionaires the villain.  My only qualm there is this has been a public issues for Dems since the 90’s at least and the fact it doesn’t resonate more might mean a) all the juice has been wrung out or b) it only works if you have someone really awesome selling it.  
 

That said, at least you’re trying an economic message, and the Dems HAVE to get back to pulling in a fair share of the working class.  

Make the billionaires the villain.  The blame-game has to be aimed at people, not ideas.

Use all the worst stories about them.  They don't have to be true.  In fact, ideally, they aren't true.  "Elon Musk had slaves."  "Elon Musk has stolen your private information and is selling it for profit."  DARE him to sue you, by the way.  Then.....DISCOVERY.  Into DOGE, Tesla....all of it.

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24 minutes ago, LCHorn said:

Too amorphous and survey results indicate most people like technology companies more than people leading them.  People like Tesla and Instagram but are wary of Musk and Zuckerberg.  
 

The other part that’s hard to square is, in general, surveys favor less regulation than more (on the companies themselves).  You’re better off making billionaires the villain.  My only qualm there is this has been a public issues for Dems since the 90’s at least and the fact it doesn’t resonate more might mean a) all the juice has been wrung out or b) it only works if you have someone really awesome selling it.  
 

That said, at least you’re trying an economic message, and the Dems HAVE to get back to pulling in a fair share of the working class.  

The play is to splinter the OG maga from the tech bro maga.

Scare dems into voting because big tech is gonna steal your identity and take your social security. I’ve personally had my SSN stolen several years ago and some unknown big tech entity filed a false tax return for me without my knowledge. The IRS dedicates significant resources to combat this.

Making the villain an idea as opposed to one person makes the villain everlasting. Deep state, anyone?

Was the tesla survey taken recently? Doubtful.

 

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5 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

They don't have to be true.  In fact, ideally, they aren't true

Nah, there’s plenty of meat without fabrication.  
 

If someone is checking my posting history they are going to have a deep sigh over yet another of my “I heard this on the Pivot podcast” recaps, but Scott Galloway’s quick and dirty analysis on the 2024 POTUS loss is that a lot of parents were seeing the impact of social media on the lives of their children and that heavily weighed into a vote for change.  
 

His quote was something to the effect of “social scientists 50 years from now are going to be shocked that we built software that so consistently delivers depression, increases the suicide rate of those who use it, allows rampant lies to be spread unchecked, including by automated bots and foreign actors who we know are antagonistic towards US interests, and the only, small effort to decency and good sense comes at the whim of billionaires who have no inner compass beyond profit.”  
 

Honestly, the beauty of 2025-2026 is you don’t have to make it about GM, or DuPont, PG&E, etc., these large corporations with boards and cogs and CEO’s in the shadows.  You can make it about Zuck, and Elon, and two of the most punchable faces in America.  

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34 minutes ago, GenXer said:

I’ve personally had my SSN stolen several years ago and some unknown big tech entity filed a false tax return for me without my knowledge. The IRS dedicates significant resources to combat this.

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47 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Make the billionaires the villain.  The blame-game has to be aimed at people, not ideas.

Use all the worst stories about them.  They don't have to be true.  In fact, ideally, they aren't true.  "Elon Musk had slaves."  "Elon Musk has stolen your private information and is selling it for profit."  DARE him to sue you, by the way.  Then.....DISCOVERY.  Into DOGE, Tesla....all of it.

 

32 minutes ago, GenXer said:

The play is to splinter the OG maga from the tech bro maga.

Scare dems into voting because big tech is gonna steal your identity and take your social security. I’ve personally had my SSN stolen several years ago and some unknown big tech entity filed a false tax return for me without my knowledge. The IRS dedicates significant resources to combat this.

Making the villain an idea as opposed to one person makes the villain everlasting. Deep state, anyone?

Was the tesla survey taken recently? Doubtful.

 

 

28 minutes ago, LCHorn said:

Nah, there’s plenty of meat without fabrication.  
 

If someone is checking my posting history they are going to have a deep sigh over yet another of my “I heard this on the Pivot podcast” recaps, but Scott Galloway’s quick and dirty analysis on the 2024 POTUS loss is that a lot of parents were seeing the impact of social media on the lives of their children and that heavily weighed into a vote for change.  
 

His quote was something to the effect of “social scientists 50 years from now are going to be shocked that we built software that so consistently delivers depression, increases the suicide rate of those who use it, allows rampant lies to be spread unchecked, including by automated bots and foreign actors who we know are antagonistic towards US interests, and the only, small effort to decency and good sense comes at the whim of billionaires who have no inner compass beyond profit.”  
 

Honestly, the beauty of 2025-2026 is you don’t have to make it about GM, or DuPont, PG&E, etc., these large corporations with boards and cogs and CEO’s in the shadows.  You can make it about Zuck, and Elon, and two of the most punchable faces in America.  


Unlike the robber barons of the 1870’s to 1910’s, the tech baron bros of today do not control our raw materials used for buildings or transportation but the raw materials that fuel our economy today…. Attention.
Railroads networks? Try social networks.

Steel for infrastructure? Try Cloud services for internet infrastructure.

Oil for engines? Try AI search engines.

 Rapacious Wall Street financiers? Well…. Yeah. Seems to be a straight line. But also you’ve got so much more in hedge funds, private equity, and venture capital.

As bad as it was back then, democracy wasn’t threatened by controlling steel or trains or oil. 
But attention fuels democracy. The means of communication and the the distribution of information are vital for democracy to work. And they own that.

That’s what makes today so dire. 

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