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Just now, Brisketexan said:

That's yet another thing I love about this era.

Trump is SIMULTANEOUSLY Mr. "Nobody knows more about [literally every subject/topic in the world] than me" while also being Mr. "I hadn't heard of that, I'll be looking into that [when "that" is often something he was just talking about a few days ago, or is one of the most basic matters of US governance]."

He is simultaneously all-knowing and omnipotent, and as ignorant and devoid of knowledge as an infant.

And his cult eats it up.

it's the classic fascist tactic - things are ALWAYS both ways. It's doublethink.

Their enemies are always all-powerful and DANGEROUS and the reason the fascists MUST seize power, but also their enemies are weak nobodies who can't do anything.

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Posted
2 minutes ago, Captainant said:

it's the classic fascist tactic - things are ALWAYS both ways. It's doublethink.

Their enemies are always all-powerful and DANGEROUS and the reason the fascists MUST seize power, but also their enemies are weak nobodies who can't do anything.

Correct.  And also, it's very important that these fucking assholes who are running literally every single one of plays in the fascist playbook must NOT be called fascists.  I fucking hate them all so, so, so much.

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1 hour ago, Brisketexan said:

That's yet another thing I love about this era.

Trump is SIMULTANEOUSLY Mr. "Nobody knows more about [literally every subject/topic in the world] than me" while also being Mr. "I hadn't heard of that, I'll be looking into that [when "that" is often something he was just talking about a few days ago, or is one of the most basic matters of US governance]."

He is simultaneously all-knowing and omnipotent, and as ignorant and devoid of knowledge as an infant.

And his cult eats it up.

 

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Posted
2 hours ago, Captainant said:

ICE goons are going to start getting return fire as they continue to escalate and assualt and brandish at anyone and everyone who DARES question them, or ask why they're breaking into a cemetary

I mean, how else are you going to jump start civil war II? It's obvious the regime is getting frustrated that it hasn't happened already.

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Here's a taste of how the legal arguments over the NG deployment in IL are going. Perry is the Judge, Hamilton represents USDOJ.

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We are not a serious country. Our National Guardsmen might not be peak physical specimens and have no business occupying US cities with guns they go plinking with twice a year? You don't say.

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ICE Is Cracking Down on Chicago. Some Chicagoans Are Fighting Back.
Residents have begun forming volunteer groups to monitor their neighborhoods for federal immigration agents. Others honk their horns or blow whistles when they see agents nearby.

Federal agents deployed tear gas on Chicago residents and more than a dozen police officers on Tuesday, the latest clash in the nation’s third-largest city as the Trump administration has carried out its immigration crackdown.

The clash began on Tuesday morning when federal agents were seen chasing a car through a working-class, heavily Latino neighborhood on the city’s far South Side, witnesses said. An S.U.V. driven by the federal agents collided with the car they were pursuing, the Chicago Police Department said, sending that car into another vehicle that was parked nearby [SEE BOLDED BELOW].

After the crash, dozens of additional immigration agents in masks arrived and residents emerged from their houses, gathering on streets and sidewalks, throwing objects at agents and shouting, “ICE go home!”

As the agents left, they released tear gas, apparently without warning, sending people coughing and running for cover. Among those affected by the gas were 13 Chicago Police Department officers, the police department said, and at least one officer was seen rinsing his eyes out with water from a neighbor’s garden hose.

People in camouflage uniforms and helmets stood in a line facing a group of residents.

A man covered his mouth with his hand as a cloud of tear gas filled a street.

A spokeswoman for the Department of Homeland Security said that the federal agents were conducting an immigration enforcement operation when two people tried to flee and hit the agents’ vehicle.

“This incident is not isolated and reflects a growing and dangerous trend of illegal aliens violently resisting arrest and agitators and criminals ramming cars into our law enforcement officers,” the D.H.S. said in a statement. The statement said that federal agents used “crowd control measures” after a group of people gathered and turned hostile [THE EXACT OPPOSITE OF WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED].

The agents repeatedly have been observed releasing smoke bombs, tear gas and pepper balls to disperse residents who gather or capture videos on cellphones, including when the agents were making arrests in densely populated neighborhoods. Chicago police officers, who have been called to the scenes of some clashes, have been exposed to tear gas from federal agents twice in the last two weeks.

As the intensity of the Trump administration’s immigration crackdown has risen, residents of Chicago are increasingly pushing back with fury.

In the last several weeks, Chicagoans have formed volunteer groups to monitor their neighborhoods for federal immigration agents, posting alerts on Facebook and in Signal group chats when agents are seen.

People stand with linked arms with jugs of milk.
People carried milk jugs, sometimes used to rinse eyes after tear gas, as they linked arms after a clash with federal agents the Brighton Park neighborhood in early October.

Three people stand, some holding up cellphones, as a federal agent in a mask walks by.

If agents are spotted on the street, motorists lean on their horns as a warning and sometimes give chase. Around the city last weekend, pairs of volunteers were seen with orange whistles around their necks, blowing the whistles at the first sight of immigration agents.

One Chicago resident, Chris Molitor, stationed himself on a street corner on the North Side on Tuesday, holding a sign denouncing President Trump and wearing a shirt critical of ICE.  

“We’re seeing videos of people being abused,” said Mr. Molitor, 64, who works in hospitality, nodding in the direction of a local taqueria whose owners were questioned by ICE. “There’s got to be a pushback of some kind.”

Last month, Andre Vasquez, a City Council member who is chairman of Chicago’s Committee on Immigrant and Refugee Rights, sponsored a “community defense workshop” to inform residents of their rights and help them organize politically.

A Chicago police officer bends over and holds his hand near his eyes under a porch.
A Chicago police officer rinsed his eyes with water on Tuesday after federal agents used tear gas on the far South Side.

People faced off with federal agents in uniforms.

“Chicago’s been doing just fine, and then these guys showed up,” Mr. Vasquez said of federal immigration officers. “There is big concern about what these unidentified, masked men are doing in this city without accountability. Chicagoans are just trying to live their life. We’re not going to tolerate unconstitutional authoritarianism.”

Bystanders have posted videos of arrests that appear unrelated to violations of immigration law.

Debbie Brockman, an employee of the TV station WGN, was pinned to the ground and arrested by Border Patrol agents on Friday while walking to a bus stop. A Border Patrol official said that Ms. Brockman had thrown an object at federal agents. Ms. Brockman’s lawyer called the arrest an attack. Ms. Brockman was released without charges.

Yarelly Jimenez, 21, a resident of Chicago’s East Side neighborhood, said that immigration arrests had been the talk of the neighborhood and among her family.

Ms. Jimenez and two others were recording federal agents in a Walgreens on Tuesday and hurriedly left the store to get away from them, she said.

Inside, shoppers yelled at federal agents, videos taken by bystanders show. “Real Americans don’t want you here!” one man said.

An agent grabbed one of Ms. Jimenez’s companions, Warren King, 19, on his way out, asking him why he was running and pinning him to the ground. It was uncertain what Mr. King was accused of, and D.H.S. officials did not immediately provide a reason for his arrest.

Video taken by another bystander and posted to social media captured Ms. Jimenez shouting at the agent in a panic.

“He’s a citizen!” she said.

People linked arms in a street.
Residents linked arms in the Brighton Park neighborhood after a confrontation with federal agents earlier this month.
 

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Posted
4 minutes ago, bolverk said:

Seems like they've now given plaintiffs sufficient basis to seek and obtain an injunction against ICE officers arresting people for non-criminal activity protected under the First Amendment.  I hope that someone is preparing that suit (a similar suit was filed to protect members of the press in Illinois, and it succeeded, IIRC).

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Posted
Just now, bolverk said:

Where my First Amendment absolutists at?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*crickets*

Yeah.  They were lying about that, too.

Shit, I'll give you the list of things they weren't lying about:

 

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WAIT....

 

 

 

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Yeah, that about covers it.

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The fascists have no interest in passing ANY meaningful immigration reform.  Solving a problem (that isn't that much of a problem, empirically) that is the key to them taking and holding power, and keeping the American people inflamed?  It would be political suicide.
Can you imagine an America with a rational and balanced immigration policy?  What the fuck would the fascists run on?

Legislation can mean accountability and rules that make it harder for them to just make shit up.
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5 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

Seems like they've now given plaintiffs sufficient basis to seek and obtain an injunction against ICE officers arresting people for non-criminal activity protected under the First Amendment.  I hope that someone is preparing that suit (a similar suit was filed to protect members of the press in Illinois, and it succeeded, IIRC).

Yeah, that will stop them.

 

8 minutes ago, F250 said:

"ICE agents kidnapped a U.S. citizen in Chicago who had just finished working a double shift because she didn’t “look” American to them."

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/ice-detains-u-citizen-saying-150950239.html

 

Or not. Ahh well nevertheless. 

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14 minutes ago, F250 said:

"ICE agents kidnapped a U.S. citizen in Chicago who had just finished working a double shift because she didn’t “look” American to them."

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/ice-detains-u-citizen-saying-150950239.html

 

Just another Kavanaugh stop.

Of course, most mass shooters are white males.  It's only reasonable for law enforcement to "briefly detain" any and all white males (and by "briefly detain," I mean "throw to the ground, beat up, handcuff, threaten, and toss in a hole for a day or two," which is what it means when the victim is brown) based on that factor.  And that's a good, solid Kavanaugh stop.  No problem there.

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