Tom "the turtle" Herman [Lame Duck or greatest 5d chess player ever?]

[Wulaw Horn 18,936]

4 minutes ago, Herpa Derpa said:

It was real and it was spectacular.

Thanks for hooking a brother up.  Anyone got a link or something? Or will I forever miss out on this site's greatest moment?

[LW Goatman 1,117]

If the number is 10, give him 12 and lets be done with it. People are already near 10 and 12 will be in the distance in a few years. 

[Hiphopopotamos 20,862]

Regarding Urban Meyers possible assistants - here is a rundown of some guys that worked under him previously (not including current Texas staff Ash/Drayton/Herman or, formerly, Beck/Strong.  Also not including any assistants currently HC - Adazzio/Holliday/Mullen/Day/Schiano)

Kevin Wilson - former Indiana HC was hired as OC/TE coach by Urban at Ohio St.  Still OC at OSU but Ryan Day calls the plays.

Billy Gonzales - was the WR coach for Urban during the Florida years.  Currently the WR/Co-OC for Florida 

Tony Alford - Hired to Urban's Ohio St staff in 2015.  Has coached RB and WR - is currently the AHC/RB for the Buckeyes under Day.

John Hevesy - longtime OL coach who was with Urban at Florida.  Has been with Dan Mullen since 2001, seems unlikely that he'd leave to come to Texas

Ed Warriner - won a national title with Urban at Ohio ST as the OL coach - serves in same role for Harbaugh and the Wolverines.  Warriner's son plays for the Wolverines.

Greg Studrawa - was Meyer's OL coach at Bowling Green and was hired on Meyers staff at Ohio St.  Still the Ohio ST OL coach under Day.

Corey Dennis - Urban's son in law is the current QB coach at Ohio St.  I'd expect him to be offered a job at Texas.

Randall Joyner - was a grad assistant at Ohio St under Meyer.  Learned under longtime great DL coach Larry Johnson Sr.  Currently DL coach at SMU

Larry Johnson - arguably the best DL coach in college football.  Longtime Penn ST. coach left that university to be on Meyer's staff at Ohio St.

Billy Davis - longtime NFL LB coach left the Arizona Cardinals to join Meyer's staff at Ohio St.  Left after two years to return to the NFL.

Chuck Heater - DB coach and then Co-DC under Urban at Florida.  Currently the DC at Colorado St.

Mickey Marotti - Urban Meyers strength coach

 

 

[KYHorn 16,751]

13 minutes ago, Wulaw Horn said:

Thanks for hooking a brother up.  Anyone got a link or something? Or will I forever miss out on this site's greatest moment?

 

[jinx 2,635]

15 minutes ago, LW Goatman said:

If the number is 10, give him 12 and lets be done with it. People are already near 10 and 12 will be in the distance in a few years. 

If we are going to hire nurses for the sidelines, sounds like we will be near 12 already.  I say we toss that in as a paid perk.

[UncleSonny 6,518]

14 minutes ago, Hiphopopotamos said:

Regarding Urban Meyers possible assistants - here is a rundown of some guys that worked under him previously (not including current Texas staff Ash/Drayton/Herman or, formerly, Beck/Strong.  Also not including any assistants currently HC - Adazzio/Holliday/Mullen/Day/Schiano)

Kevin Wilson - former Indiana HC was hired as OC/TE coach by Urban at Ohio St.  Still OC at OSU but Ryan Day calls the plays.

Billy Gonzales - was the WR coach for Urban during the Florida years.  Currently the WR/Co-OC for Florida 

Tony Alford - Hired to Urban's Ohio St staff in 2015.  Has coached RB and WR - is currently the AHC/RB for the Buckeyes under Day.

John Hevesy - longtime OL coach who was with Urban at Florida.  Has been with Dan Mullen since 2001, seems unlikely that he'd leave to come to Texas

Ed Warriner - won a national title with Urban at Ohio ST as the OL coach - serves in same role for Harbaugh and the Wolverines.  Warriner's son plays for the Wolverines.

Greg Studrawa - was Meyer's OL coach at Bowling Green and was hired on Meyers staff at Ohio St.  Still the Ohio ST OL coach under Day.

Corey Dennis - Urban's son in law is the current QB coach at Ohio St.  I'd expect him to be offered a job at Texas.

Randall Joyner - was a grad assistant at Ohio St under Meyer.  Learned under longtime great DL coach Larry Johnson Sr.  Currently DL coach at SMU

Larry Johnson - arguably the best DL coach in college football.  Longtime Penn ST. coach left that university to be on Meyer's staff at Ohio St.

Billy Davis - longtime NFL LB coach left the Arizona Cardinals to join Meyer's staff at Ohio St.  Left after two years to return to the NFL.

Chuck Heater - DB coach and then Co-DC under Urban at Florida.  Currently the DC at Colorado St.

Mickey Marotti - Urban Meyers strength coach

 

 

Good stuff, thanks. Would be interested to see how many of those guys would leave Day at OSU to link back up with Urban if given the chance. 

[RGBIII 22,764]

22 minutes ago, Hiphopopotamos said:

Regarding Urban Meyers possible assistants - here is a rundown of some guys that worked under him previously (not including current Texas staff Ash/Drayton/Herman or, formerly, Beck/Strong.  Also not including any assistants currently HC - Adazzio/Holliday/Mullen/Day/Schiano)

Kevin Wilson - former Indiana HC was hired as OC/TE coach by Urban at Ohio St.  Still OC at OSU but Ryan Day calls the plays.

Billy Gonzales - was the WR coach for Urban during the Florida years.  Currently the WR/Co-OC for Florida 

Tony Alford - Hired to Urban's Ohio St staff in 2015.  Has coached RB and WR - is currently the AHC/RB for the Buckeyes under Day.

John Hevesy - longtime OL coach who was with Urban at Florida.  Has been with Dan Mullen since 2001, seems unlikely that he'd leave to come to Texas

Ed Warriner - won a national title with Urban at Ohio ST as the OL coach - serves in same role for Harbaugh and the Wolverines.  Warriner's son plays for the Wolverines.

Greg Studrawa - was Meyer's OL coach at Bowling Green and was hired on Meyers staff at Ohio St.  Still the Ohio ST OL coach under Day.

Corey Dennis - Urban's son in law is the current QB coach at Ohio St.  I'd expect him to be offered a job at Texas.

Randall Joyner - was a grad assistant at Ohio St under Meyer.  Learned under longtime great DL coach Larry Johnson Sr.  Currently DL coach at SMU

Larry Johnson - arguably the best DL coach in college football.  Longtime Penn ST. coach left that university to be on Meyer's staff at Ohio St.

Billy Davis - longtime NFL LB coach left the Arizona Cardinals to join Meyer's staff at Ohio St.  Left after two years to return to the NFL.

Chuck Heater - DB coach and then Co-DC under Urban at Florida.  Currently the DC at Colorado St.

Mickey Marotti - Urban Meyers strength coach

 

 

Would love to steal away Brian Hartline for WR coach  although probably doubtful with his ties to OSU. Joyner would be a beast and help lock down DFW. Dennis is a given, best guess

HC- Meyer

QB/OC- Dennis (Obvious hire but might get a bump up to OC as well)

RB- Drayton, sorry @golfclap

WR- Zach Smith available? kidding, maybe Gonzales can be swayed

TE- Whats ol Brewster up to nowadays?

OL- Studrawa, really id take anyone over Hand

DE-Joyner (seems like a lock)

DT- Not sure but I dont think OSU would let Johnson leave

LB- Davis (might need a CO-DC title or something, not sure how hes viewed in the nfl)

CB/Bagman- Valai

DC/S- Ash

Edited October 20, 2020 by RGBIII

[C-Man 26,930]

1 hour ago, Burt Macklin said:

5 yrs/50 million has always seemed like the most likely contract value, I do wonder about his health and I’m also curious if he’s just trying to get a raise from Fox, but we absolutely need to put that money on the table and make him say no. 

We’d be complete dumbasses not to give that to him. Our Football revenue and Athletics donations will dwarf that increase in no time once we start winning double digit games every year. 
 

 

Once you factor in buyouts and contracts and getting paid for seasons they didn't work for us, each of the last two coaches have basically cost Texas $10M/annually. Why not give that to Urban, who has won three national titles and would be a substantial upgrade over Strong and Herman?

[cochamps 1,875]

3 minutes ago, UncleSonny said:

Good stuff, thanks. Would be interested to see how many of those guys would leave Day at OSU to link back up with Urban if given the chance. 

Read somewhere that Marotti (S&C) and his Player Personnel / Football Ops guy (~40 yr old w Italian name) were the guys that UM really wants to have.

[TexasEx 1,660]

2 minutes ago, cochamps said:

Read somewhere that Marotti (S&C) and his Player Personnel / Football Ops guy (~40 yr old w Italian name) were the guys that UM really wants to have.

That's according to the Ohio guy FCB interviewed on his podcast. Same guy also said Urbs and Therm had the same agent, which apparently is no longer true, so take it for what it's worth.

[Ricky Butler 2,644]

5 minutes ago, RGBIII said:

QB/OC- Dennis (Obvious hire but might get a bump up to OC as well)

Seems like a step down from the Kevin Wilson / Ryan Day pairing. Is he old enough to rent a car?

[C-Man 26,930]

2 minutes ago, TexasEx said:

That's according to the Ohio guy FCB interviewed on his podcast. Same guy also said Urbs and Therm had the same agent, which apparently is no longer true, so take it for what it's worth.

I thought I read in the last day or so that Urban doesn't currently have an agent. I find that hard to believe since he's not retired and is working in TV.

[UncleSonny 6,518]

No direct Urban connection (tangentially through Charlie I guess) but maybe we finally land the Longhorn message board white whale DL coach?

Clint Hurtt’s show-cause has to have expired by now right?

[Getafix 28,365]

7 minutes ago, RGBIII said:

QB/OC- Dennis (Obvious hire but might get a bump up to OC as well)

The guy was a GA/QC for 4 years, before being made the QB coach THIS year.  So he has - at this point - 0 games of coaching experience.  

[Burt Macklin 18,984]

1 minute ago, Ricky Butler said:

Seems like a step down from the Kevin Wilson / Ryan Day pairing. Is he old enough to rent a car?

He’d almost definitely still be hiring a co-OC who would probably function more as the true OC, just like Meyer had Wilson and Day on the same staff. I highly doubt he’d make Dennis the lone OC. 

[ztejas 43,190]

1 minute ago, UncleSonny said:

No direct Urban connection (tangentially through Charlie I guess) but maybe we finally land the Longhorn message board white whale DL coach?

Clint Hurtt’s show-cause has to have expired by now right?

Can he play DL for us?

[Rimbo 25,705]

36 minutes ago, Wulaw Horn said:

Thanks for hooking a brother up.  Anyone got a link or something? Or will I forever miss out on this site's greatest moment?

Have you ever been to a Turkish prison?

[RGBIII 22,764]

9 minutes ago, Getafix said:

The guy was a GA/QC for 4 years, before being made the QB coach THIS year.  So he has - at this point - 0 games of coaching experience.  

Ya that was more of a “leverage” type guess. Doubt he would be the lone OC. I’m still not convinced he actually lets Yurcich go

[Hiphopopotamos 20,862]

9 minutes ago, Burt Macklin said:

He’d almost definitely still be hiring a co-OC who would probably function more as the true OC, just like Meyer had Wilson and Day on the same staff. I highly doubt he’d make Dennis the lone OC. 

Lets hope WIlson would want to come here to run this offense.

[Hiphopopotamos 20,862]

Just now, RGBIII said:

Ya that was more of a “leverage” type guess. Doubt he would be the lone OC. I’m still not convinced he actually lets Yurcich go

While I'm down for keeping Yurcich as OC - it would be beyond strange to hire Urban as Head Coach but to retain both the OC and DC.

[Wulaw Horn 18,936]

3 minutes ago, Hiphopopotamos said:

Lets hope WIlson would want to come here to run this offense.

That was the name that looked most plausible and likely to me. 

[pearlandhorn 3,275]

People are saying urban may want to keep ash on as DC? Count me as one who fails to see any improvement by the defense. Why the fuck would we want to keep him here?

[VABuckeye 2,472]

34 minutes ago, cochamps said:

Read somewhere that Marotti (S&C) and his Player Personnel / Football Ops guy (~40 yr old w Italian name) were the guys that UM really wants to have.

Mickey Marotti and Mark Pantoni.  Pantoni is Director of Player Personnel at Ohio State.  He's as fanatical about and works as hard at recruiting as Urban Meyer.  Losing those two guys would hurt a lot although, no offense intended, switching to Texas from Ohio State at this point is at best a lateral move IMO.  Kevin WIlson would hurt as well but Day is the quarterback whisperer so I think that loss could be absorbed pretty easily.  Meyer's son-in-law would probably leave and I don't see that as a blow.

I don't see anyone else on the staff as a possibility and with Meyer's ties to the program and the state of Ohio I'm not sure how hard he'd press for anyone other than those I mentioned.  JMO.

Edited October 20, 2020 by VABuckeye

[Burt Macklin 18,984]

13 minutes ago, Hiphopopotamos said:

Lets hope WIlson would want to come here to run this offense.

Ehhh. Maybe. He got fired from IU for mistreatment if players and forcing them back too fast after concussions. That would definitely create potential for issues between Meyer and the AD. 

Just now, pearlandhorn said:

People are saying urban may want to keep ash on as DC? Count me as one who fails to see any improvement by the defense. Why the fuck would we want to keep him here?

People only say that because of comments made on TV. I’m not convinced he’d actually keep him. But if he did, I have no doubt Ash would perform better with Meyer as the HC instead of Herman. 

[Not a Sock 2,308]

2 minutes ago, VABuckeye said:

Mickey Marotti and Mark Pantoni.  Pantoni is Director of Player Personnel at Ohio State.  He's as fanatical about and works as hard at recruiting as Urban Meyer.  Losing those two guys would hurt a lot although, no offense intended, switching to Texas from Ohio State at this point is at best a lateral move IMO.  Kevin WIlson would hurt as well but Day is the quarterback whisperer so I think that loss could be absorbed pretty easily.  Meyer's son-in-law would probably leave and I don't see that as a blow.

I don't see anyone else on the staff as a possibility and with Meyer's ties to the program and the state of Ohio I'm not sure how hard he'd press for anyone other than those I mentioned.  JMO.

But I want Larry Johnson too!

[Bobby_Batronic 1,994]

2 hours ago, NeverMarryAStripper said:

Is it possible to be little excited and want to throw up in your mouth at the same time?

Isn’t that standard fare when marrying a stripper?

[VABuckeye 2,472]

12 minutes ago, Not a Sock said:

But I want Larry Johnson too!

LJ SR is nearing or at 70.  I think Ohio State is his last stop.  He is a fantastic DL coach.

[Hiphopopotamos 20,862]

18 minutes ago, Burt Macklin said:

Ehhh. Maybe. He got fired from IU for mistreatment if players and forcing them back too fast after concussions. That would definitely create potential for issues between Meyer and the AD. 

People only say that because of comments made on TV. I’m not convinced he’d actually keep him. But if he did, I have no doubt Ash would perform better with Meyer as the HC instead of Herman. 

Forgot all about that - yeah, probably moved to the 'not likely' side of the paper.

[VABuckeye 2,472]

There have been zero issues with Wilson and player safety at Ohio State.  None.

[texasstrong12 4,668]

If we hire Urban I don't think we're gonna be worried about hiring assistants like Wilson. 

[HornsOverIthaca 2,333]

4 hours ago, 6th Street said:

Top. Men.

 

[Coelenterate Fuccboi 13,000]

2 hours ago, MoJames said:

Huuuuuuuuuuuge difference between multiple ER visits and multiple EMT visits.

How about their paychecks?

[nnm 35,899]

1 hour ago, Wulaw Horn said:

I mean if Urban wants to die on our sidelines that's a risk I'm certainly willing to take. He could have just as easily caught a stray bullet from Aaron Hernandez. He's living on borrowed time. 

Wouldn’t be the first D1 coach in Texas to die on the sidelines. 
https://www.nytimes.com/1971/10/31/archives/stricken-at-game-tcu-coach-dies-pittman-coach-at-tcu-dead.html

[sith_horn 2,364]

28 minutes ago, Burt Macklin said:

People only say that because of comments made on TV. I’m not convinced he’d actually keep him. But if he did, I have no doubt Ash would perform better with Meyer as the HC instead of Herman. 

This. And I'd say the same goes for Yurcich.

[Burt Macklin 18,984]

7 minutes ago, nnm said:

Wouldn’t be the first D1 coach in Texas to die on the sidelines. 
https://www.nytimes.com/1971/10/31/archives/stricken-at-game-tcu-coach-dies-pittman-coach-at-tcu-dead.html

You know what they say, If you ain’t dyin, you ain’t tryin. 

[HtownHorn 14,395]

Good thing about Urban is he has a wealth of contacts in the coaching ranks, so I would think that he would put together a staff that is a complete 180 from Strong/Herman.

[BurntOrange&White 39,268]

4 minutes ago, HtownHorn said:

Good thing about Urban is he has a wealth of contacts in the coaching ranks, so I would think that he would put together a staff that is a complete 180 from Strong/Herman.

You mean he hasn’t alienated himself by being a complete front running cock sucker?

[General Specific 3,213]

I'm guessing you've never been to a Twin Peaks restaurant.

Sounds like we are home.

New Surly Motto NMAS?

“Where it’s possible to be excited and throw up in you mouth, all at the same time!”

[clapclapclap 9,000]

7 hours ago, Leeroy Jenkins said:

What about his (Urban's) side piece?  

Edited October 20, 2020 by clapclapclap
Alleged allegedly?

[Elmer_Fudd 22,033]

Morrati (sp?) was with Meyer at Florida and before right?  Hopefully that would be someone we get.

[LTtxfan 48,823]

3 hours ago, Burt Macklin said:

5 yrs/50 million has always seemed like the most likely contract value, I do wonder about his health and I’m also curious if he’s just trying to get a raise from Fox, but we absolutely need to put that money on the table and make him say no. 

We’d be complete dumbasses not to give that to him. Our Football revenue and Athletics donations will dwarf that increase in no time once we start winning double digit games every year. 
 

 

I've wondered how long Urban wants to stay on that FOX pregame show since he is working with a bunch of idiots...

[Laga4 1,270]

1 hour ago, ztejas said:

Can he play DL for us?

He could be the DL for us.

That's a big man.

[texasstrong12 4,668]

7 minutes ago, Elmer_Fudd said:

Morrati (sp?) was with Meyer at Florida and before right?  Hopefully that would be someone we get.

Morrati has been with Urban almost his entire career. 

Seems like he would definitely follow him to Texas. I think his daughter plays softball at Ohio State though. 

[BurntOrange&White 39,268]

11 minutes ago, LTtxfan said:

I've wondered how long Urban wants to stay on that FOX pregame show since he is working with a bunch of idiots...

That crew is the better pre game show for college football. Way better than ESPN 

[futureman 22,382]

47 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

You mean he hasn’t alienated himself by being a complete front running cock sucker?

 

[hornfromdallas 334]

urban plz hire reggie bush as rb coach so we can see his thot at every game 

[hornfromdallas 334]

if mick & pantoni arent brought along it will be a let down they are responsible for the success everywhere he has been 

[Thiefery 4,941]

19 minutes ago, hornfromdallas said:

urban plz hire reggie bush as rb coach so we can see his thot at every game 

Is she the Kim clone lookalike?

Edited October 20, 2020 by Thiefery

[Rip76 4,901]

18 minutes ago, hornfromdallas said:

urban plz hire reggie bush as rb coach so we can see his thot at every game 

And bring back that Heisman and give it to Vince if you do.

[Revolution512 1,465]

41 minutes ago, texasstrong12 said:

Morrati has been with Urban almost his entire career. 

Seems like he would definitely follow him to Texas. I think his daughter plays softball at Ohio State though. 

There’s a solution to that softball problem now.