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Transfer Cycle 2025-2026 - Eloi! Eloi, lama sabachthani!

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18 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

You'd also do that for free, though.

Throw in Cam Coleman and I’d have her like this. IMG_7940.jpeg

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9 minutes ago, Hiphopopotamos said:

Bobby/Gerry mentioned yesterday that generally Texas isn’t looking for Portal guys from lower levels because they want guys ready to step in and play right away (why they also avoid players who have been injured). Trey Moore was an exception but a good example of a player that took more than half a season to adjust to the new level of competition.

While I attend to agree with this, and I am usually over optimistic about the roster, it feels we have lost this privilege and we are going to have to take some guys they feel are reaches. Unless we completely reverse path like last year on DT and somehow bring in 4 guys this week.

3 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said:

I'll drink some of this koolaid

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This is a deeply flawed argument. He's just blindly assuming that every position group that brings back its starter is guaranteed to improve, by a lot. By that logic we should have just paid up to keep Wisner, Moore, Livingstone, Stroh, etc. so they could have shiny little green arrows next to their positions as well. Because anyone who stays is guaranteed to improve, right? We also have zero actual evidence that Townsend is going to be an improvement over Endries.

If the coaches were so sure our current guys will all improve they wouldn't be tearing down the WR and OL rooms the way they are now, to the point of moving Baker over to RG.

10 minutes ago, Hiphopopotamos said:

Portal guys from lower levels

See, I remember a time when blue bloods would find absolute dudes from JUCO. That cannot have changed all that much. HS scouts probably fail to identify 30% of NFL Draft quality players, and it's not until they play at the collegiate level that their potential is visible. Limiting your search to other P4s is just dumb.

4 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said:

I liked Endries, but pretty much half his season production came in 2 games (San Jose State and A&M). In-between those games he went:

1 catch/4 yards

2 catches/2 yards

2 catches/4 yards

1 catch/ -1 yards

4 catches/25 yards

3 catches/24 yards

3 catches/9 yards

2 catches/49 yards

And he was never a great blocker.

I don't think you have to squint too hard to envision Townsend being able to step into his role and provide at least the same level of production.

Sure, but Endries might get drafted and Townsend had 7 yards receiving this season. It's far from certain that he is better than Endries and to do so would require a massive jump in production.

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Horns 247, on Raleek Brown.

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Horns 247, on Tre Richardson (5' 10" Vandy receiver)

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39 minutes ago, Hiphopopotamos said:

We had one year of ‘under performance’ it just happened to be this season. Texas just had 3 OL drafted and 4 of their 5 starting OL on NFL rosters. That’s what kids are going to see.

That, plus blocking for Arch and all the NFL attention that brings, plus at or above market NIL and the potential for additional NIL in a huge urban market, one would think, would be an easy sell to top linemen. Has not been the case so far for whatever reason. Could be because we haven’t moved down the board after the Michigan bros or whatever. Yeah I know one still hasn’t decided but not optimistic.

3 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said:

I liked Endries, but pretty much half his season production came in 2 games (San Jose State and A&M). In-between those games he went:

1 catch/4 yards

2 catches/2 yards

2 catches/4 yards

1 catch/ -1 yards

4 catches/25 yards

3 catches/24 yards

3 catches/9 yards

2 catches/49 yards

And he was never a great blocker.

I don't think you have to squint too hard to envision Townsend being able to step into his role and provide at least the same level of production.

I think the TE will be a real strength this year. Very high on Townsend. He might be the best athlete at TE that Texas has had since Finley. He has also shown the willingness to be physical. Shannon showed solid bocking vs Michigan. Pair him with the MSU portal TE and blocking should be better. Winston looks like a solid receiving TE. Washington should make a step also. It now looks like a complete room. Not simply a bunch of large receivers pretending to be in-line TEs.

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14 minutes ago, Hiphopopotamos said:

Bobby/Gerry mentioned yesterday that generally Texas isn’t looking for Portal guys from lower levels because they want guys ready to step in and play right away

All this tells me is that Flood won't (or can't) scout very well.

Oregon picked up Isaiah World and Alex Harkey via the portal from Nevada and Texas State last offseason. World and Harkey are now their current starters at LT and RT, and the Ducks are in the CFP semifinals.

15 minutes ago, Hiphopopotamos said:

Bobby/Gerry mentioned yesterday that generally Texas isn’t looking for Portal guys from lower levels because they want guys ready to step in and play right away (why they also avoid players who have been injured). Trey Moore was an exception but a good example of a player that took more than half a season to adjust to the new level of competition.

I get this, but the problem with that binary thinking is you miss all the portal players from lower levels that are ready. Kinda what scouting and spring ball is helpful for.

no signings yet?!? DOOMEDDD

16 minutes ago, Newy25 said:

We currently have nine scholarship linemen including Robertson. Typically we are carrying 13-15 scholarship linemen. That means we need to retain Robertson plus land both guys we have an offer to plus sign two more players to get to 13.

Maybe in the portal era you can argue it’s more like a pro system and you carry less players at the position but 11 seems like a very low number for a pipeline of player development.

If that is truly their plan, then they would need to go huge in this next recruiting cycle at OL. I think it would be a mistake, but what portal OL wants to come to a school knowing he will be a backup?

4 minutes ago, Vito Andolini said:

And goodness knows the sainted Cignetti has never taken a player that wasn’t P4…

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24 minutes ago, Hiphopopotamos said:

Bobby/Gerry mentioned yesterday that generally Texas isn’t looking for Portal guys from lower levels because they want guys ready to step in and play right away (why they also avoid players who have been injured). Trey Moore was an exception but a good example of a player that took more than half a season to adjust to the new level of competition.

TE Michael Masunas has an injury history. It ended his season early this past year.

https://msuspartans.com/sports/football/roster/michael-masunas/15996

16 minutes ago, satyanash said:

This is a deeply flawed argument. He's just blindly assuming that every position group that brings back its starter is guaranteed to improve, by a lot. By that logic we should have just paid up to keep Wisner, Moore, Livingstone, Stroh, etc. so they could have shiny little green arrows next to their positions as well. Because anyone who stays is guaranteed to improve, right? We also have zero actual evidence that Townsend is going to be an improvement over Endries.

If the coaches were so sure our current guys will all improve they wouldn't be tearing down the WR and OL rooms the way they are now, to the point of moving Baker over to RG.

Above and beyond all of this the 12 package is when the offense has struggled the most for the entirety of Sark's tenure, but particularly last year. I know I'm a doom and gloomer but I find it difficult to get excited about any 12 success with anyone currently on the roster.

46 minutes ago, Tex-19 said:

OTF still seems to think the number is 2+Robertson which would be insanity imo. Need at least 1-2 quality backups.

Brooks, Chatman, Coleman brothers, Cojoe, is not terrible depth assuming we get a T, G in the portal and have Robertson come back. We're just not going to be in a day and age where tons of talented back ups will stay. Hell guys like Kibble will go start at Baylor and get paid. OL depth is going to be a problem for EVERY team. UGA just lost 2 talented to the portal, one of which had a high chance to be a starter next year. Assuming we end up with an OL of Goosby- Brunner- Robertson-Baker-Sprague with guys like Brooks, Chatman, Cojoe backing them up (all of whom have playing experience), it's not the worst thing in the world. That starting OL would have 3 forsure NFL players on it, 1 that is will be a top 15 pick. What other schools can say that?

10 minutes ago, Vito Andolini said:

And goodness knows the sainted Cignetti has never taken a player that wasn’t P4…

Every time I see Saint Cignetti mentioned I can hear Miserere mei, Deus playing in the background.

(Miami board was pretty unhappy to see him enter the portal, FWIW).

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13 minutes ago, satyanash said:

All this tells me is that Flood won't (or can't) scout very well.

Oregon picked up Isaiah World and Alex Harkey via the portal from Nevada and Texas State last offseason. World and Harkey are now their current starters at LT and RT, and the Ducks are in the CFP semifinals.

Goosby, a 3 star, is going to be a top 15 pick next year.

Cam Williams, a 3 star, was drafted after 1 year of starting.

Texas has had the most draft picks at OL in any time in our history in a short period of time and will have more and you want to run off the coach? Which OL coach has had more OL drafted in the last 5 years across college football? I bet the list will be very short.

11 minutes ago, satyanash said:

This is a deeply flawed argument. He's just blindly assuming that every position group that brings back its starter is guaranteed to improve, by a lot. By that logic we should have just paid up to keep Wisner, Moore, Livingstone, Stroh, etc. so they could have shiny little green arrows next to their positions as well. Because anyone who stays is guaranteed to improve, right? We also have zero actual evidence that Townsend is going to be an improvement over Endries.

If the coaches were so sure our current guys will all improve they wouldn't be tearing down the WR and OL rooms the way they are now, to the point of moving Baker over to RG.

Are you telling me you're surprised someone with the handle "0400am" and who posts regularly on Orangebloods or IT might actually be a fucking idiot?

10 minutes ago, chainsaw said:

See, I remember a time when blue bloods would find absolute dudes from JUCO. That cannot have changed all that much. HS scouts probably fail to identify 30% of NFL Draft quality players, and it's not until they play at the collegiate level that their potential is visible. Limiting your search to other P4s is just dumb.

Keep pulling more shit out of your ass that you know nothing at all about. You sound like a moron travelling here from the 1970's. "I remember a time when women weren't allowed to have credit cards without their husband's signature and hot dogs cost 25 cents! Surely things aren't that different?"

JUCO's do not look they way they used to look. They used to be places where rock stupid morons with questionable IQs went go get ass grades for a couple years until they could join the big boys because they got a 6 on their SAT's out of HS. Those kids find ways to get into other schools these days. And your discussion of "limiting yourself to just P4 schools" seems pretty dumb when you consider that there are currently 65 JUCO college in America that field football teams. That's slightly less than the # of P4 teams in America. And outside of the fact JUCOs mostly existed and were a thing when there basically no transfers in College Football, or players had one and had to sit out a year, so kids went to JUCO instead...well, they're sorta defunct. Those kids are now all over in various smaller schools.

"It can't be that hard." Ok, chooch.

1 minute ago, Hookem2147 said:

Bo Barnes to the portal, per IT

A position of great need, a promising young player and he is going to the portal? Does he share an agent with Wisner or something?

7 minutes ago, Newy25 said:

We currently have nine scholarship linemen including Robertson. Typically we are carrying 13-15 scholarship linemen. That means we need to retain Robertson plus land both guys we have an offer to plus sign two more players to get to 13.

Maybe in the portal era you can argue it’s more like a pro system and you carry less players at the position but 11 seems like a very low number for a pipeline of player development.

I'm not saying this just to add negativity, but honestly it kinda seems like maybe we've given up on development at OL? We've run off most of the young guys on the roster (who were 100% Sark/Flood recruits). The most recent HS recruiting class was only 3 guys, one of whom was a last-minute local kid throw in. And they didn't seem to have much sense of urgency about that situation. I'm not as up to speed on 2027 recruiting, but my limited understanding is that we're not exactly rushing out of the gate with that class, either. I could foresee a world in which they're thinking you know what - we got fucked on Stroh, Cruz never developed like we hoped, portal OL other than LTs are relatively inexpensive, let's just do that from now on. It squares with reporting that we want experienced guys from big programs, and talk that Flood doesn't care for HS recruiting.

Of course, the giant gaping hole in my theory is that this plan requires us to actually, you know, pursue some portal OL beyond just throwing a Hail Mary at two guys from Michigan and calling it a day when they pass.

Just now, Newy25 said:

A position of great need, a promising young player and he is going to the portal? Does he share an agent with Wisner or something?

I'm guessing this has more to do with potentially the Wisconsin LB or Cal LB and Atkinson coming in. I imagine he's leaving due to playing time/role.

4 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said:

Bo Barnes to the portal, per IT

Nothing new here, but when guys like Bo Barnes feel the need to entire the portal you know the entire system is broken.

Damn.. Was excited to see Bo have a bigger role this coming season6

2 minutes ago, tokamak said:

I'm not saying this just to add negativity, but honestly it kinda seems like maybe we've given up on development at OL? We've run off most of the young guys on the roster (who were 100% Sark/Flood recruits). The most recent HS recruiting class was only 3 guys, one of whom was a last-minute local kid throw in. And they didn't seem to have much sense of urgency about that situation. I'm not as up to speed on 2027 recruiting, but my limited understanding is that we're not exactly rushing out of the gate with that class, either. I could foresee a world in which they're thinking you know what - we got fucked on Stroh, Cruz never developed like we hoped, portal OL other than LTs are relatively inexpensive, let's just do that from now on. It squares with reporting that we want experienced guys from big programs, and talk that Flood doesn't care for HS recruiting.

Of course, the giant gaping hole in my theory is that this plan requires us to actually, you know, pursue some portal OL beyond just throwing a Hail Mary at two guys from Michigan and calling it a day when they pass.

If we only sign two portal linemen to go with our current roster we are definitely signaling a shift in allocation of roster spots to the line. Meanwhile, at defensive line a position with an equally high bust rate we are clearly stocking the roster like never before. I think I know which position I’m predicting will have more sustained success in the future.

There’s still a pretty big role there, must think he needs a pay bump or just doesn’t like it here. Or hopefully, “Coach Williams” at Inside Texas is full of shit.

This is looking like a bad day. We lose to the Vols in BBall and next day Bo decides to enter the portal probably heading to Knoxville to be closer to his daddy Rick.

We need a Portal Slump Buster like right now.

6 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said:

Bo Barnes to the portal, per IT

Seems like a major fuck up by us. I would be pissed too, borderline 5* and barely touch the field. Plays in a game and does fairly well and then all the talk is about bringing in a guy or two in front of you.

23 minutes ago, Newy25 said:

We currently have nine scholarship linemen including Robertson. Typically we are carrying 13-15 scholarship linemen. That means we need to retain Robertson plus land both guys we have an offer to plus sign two more players to get to 13.

Maybe in the portal era you can argue it’s more like a pro system and you carry less players at the position but 11 seems like a very low number for a pipeline of player development.

Prior to portal: 12-13 non-redshirts is normal, with 2-3 redshirts. 53-man NFL rosters generally have 9 with 4 more on PS.

I get the picture people think that taking 5 each recruiting class and carrying 20 is normal, but that would not be normal at all.

This is the biggest entry we’ve had thus far. Probably heard what Atkinson got and wanted to get the same.

Would be nice to have a real GM right about now.

7 hours ago, ITHorn said:

I don’t think anyone really understood or could have predicted how big of a shift the single portal window would have on retention. Texas isn’t the only fanbase frustrated they haven’t been able to lure high end talent into the portal. Not an excuse for where we sit at OL at this point, more of an observation looking around CFB.

they'll bring back the spring portal. this one window fucks all the other sports

3 minutes ago, victory88 said:

I'm guessing this has more to do with potentially the Wisconsin LB or Cal LB and Atkinson coming in. I imagine he's leaving due to playing time/role.

I mean, we have 1 junior LB on the roster and 3 freshmen, 2 of whom are lower-rated fliers. Even if we take a LB from the portal, is there not room on the roster for 3 contributors at the LB position? Is every player going to leave who isn't atop the depth chart at his position?

We know what comes next. We let Bo walk and then fail to secure our primary targets at LB.

2 minutes ago, Atticus said:

This is the biggest entry we’ve had thus far. Probably heard what Atkinson got and wanted to get the same.

Would be nice to have a real GM right about now.

In your scenario, how would this play out with a real GM?

5 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

Nothing new here, but when guys like Bo Barnes feel the need to entire the portal you know the entire system is broken.

Is the system broken or is Texas' system broken? I'm not being a smart ass nor sarcastic. Are these types of issues common at all the top universities. Is there negative press about Bo I don't know? I recall him being well regarded coming out of HS and don't recall issues since. So why is he shopping and why is that a system problem and not a Texas problem?

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59 minutes ago, Portal Pirate said:

I would bone Michael Dell's wife on camera if it got us 5 solid OL by Friday.

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43 minutes ago, deech said:

I get that Texas is prioritizing recruiting starters. I thought when the SEC expanded football rosters recently that each SEC school would pick up 5-10ish players in the portal that I would say aren't the starter types but could provide some additional roster depth in the short term or be a longer-term project type player that they hope they could develop. I know that their is a risk as these players are typically in the portal because they usually unhappy with playing time/their development. I know we also took some additional 3* types in high school recruiting this year that look to develop and not start immediately.

If you’re looking for guys that are okay being 3rd string and developing, you’re going to need to evaluate well at the HS level and add a few in every class. Goes don’t go into the portal to sit the bench somewhere.

Even the unheralded HS recruit ready to be developed is fraught with peril. Kibble just leveraged his time being “developed” at Texas into a payday at Baylor that was larger than his offer to stay.

12 minutes ago, victory88 said:

Brooks, Chatman, Coleman brothers, Cojoe, is not terrible depth assuming we get a T, G in the portal and have Robertson come back. We're just not going to be in a day and age where tons of talented back ups will stay. Hell guys like Kibble will go start at Baylor and get paid. OL depth is going to be a problem for EVERY team. UGA just lost 2 talented to the portal, one of which had a high chance to be a starter next year. Assuming we end up with an OL of Goosby- Brunner- Robertson-Baker-Sprague with guys like Brooks, Chatman, Cojoe backing them up (all of whom have playing experience), it's not the worst thing in the world. That starting OL would have 3 forsure NFL players on it, 1 that is will be a top 15 pick. What other schools can say that?

You’re wishcasting with that starting 5. At this time, there’s no reason to assume Texas lands Brunner or Sprague.

Nothing like a complete roster turnover going into year 6!

2 minutes ago, SarkAfterDark said:

We know what comes next. We let Bo walk and then fail to secure our primary targets at LB.

Cal and Wisconsin LB + atkinson + smith?

2 minutes ago, SarkAfterDark said:

We know what comes next. We let Bo walk and then fail to secure our primary targets at LB.

Tell me, what is our long storied history of letting big time prospects walk and missing out our primary targets as replacements?

And if your answer is “Wisner” or “Livingston”, don’t bother.

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1 minute ago, BurntEyes said:

Is the system broken or is Texas' system broken? I'm not being a smart ass nor sarcastic. Are these types of issues common at all the top universities. Is there negative press about Bo I don't know? He recall him being well regarded coming out of HS and don't recall issues since. So why is he shopping and why is that a system problem and not a Texas problem?

The constant self-loathing from our fanbase gets really old. What you’re inadvertently implying is that Texas might be the only school losing some guys that they’d like to keep and that is as far from reality as anything could be. It doesn’t always have to be “man, Texas sucks and everyone else is doing better” but that seems to a default position on this thread lately. It’s boring and tiring.

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