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18 minutes ago, Damor said:

I don't disagree with you in principle, and my poorly organized thoughts don't convey it well, but I am mentally picturing the flood of brain rot on TikTok and what's considered within bounds to shout at your derrrp buddies while playing Helldivers.

A "professional" comedian who will be held accountable socially and economically for their hot takes is another fair issue for discussion, but not what I was envisioning, but thank you, as I was very unclear.

Yeah I just think the same principle applies, albeit maybe a bit differently. Most people aren't going to yell at you in person or at the poker table or in your video game if you're joking around and not being a dickhead, you know?

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41 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

I might get some push back on this but I think it's important to draw a distinction between racial humor and racism. Racial humor is fine, as long as it's actually funny, isn't punching down, isn't mean spirited, and isn't leaning into actually harmful stereotypes. The same goes with things like LGBT topics and beyond.

Can you give an example of some good racial humor that doesn't lean into harmful stereotypes?

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12 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Here's some actual footage of the incident.  Almost without doubt a political plant.  And the student in question is a dumbshit.

Is this an actual student? I mean aggy is dumb but I don't think they are this dumb. 

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20 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

Yeah I just think the same principle applies, albeit maybe a bit differently. Most people aren't going to yell at you in person or at the poker table or in your video game if you're joking around and not being a dickhead, you know?

I guess I just feel that the sheer volume of it on stupid social media and relative lack of accountability allows the gradual ratcheting down and blurring of lines between what's intended as ironic humor and what's just racism veiled in humor.  Particularly because the "humor" is usually really stupid and/or absurd either way.  In other words, the dismal tide.

But there I go just being old again. /principalskinner

Posted
16 minutes ago, Laguna said:

Can you give an example of some good racial humor that doesn't lean into harmful stereotypes?

There are plenty of examples.

Bill Burr is very good at this. Dave Chappelle, even though I criticized him earlier, is probably the GOAT at using racial humor in this way. Chapelle's Show used racial humor probably better than any other medium ever has. Hell, the very first episode had one of the greatest comedy sketches of all time that, taking the awful, degrading language of racial hatred and using it in the most ironic way possible. He used racial humor and stereotypes to hold up a mirror to America to try and showcase how ridiculous they were.

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Posted
3 hours ago, Brian Fantana said:

Bill Burr is very good at this. Dave Chappelle, even though I criticized him earlier, is probably the GOAT at using racial humor in this way. 


Ironically, Bill Burr’s wife worked on the Chappelle Show during its first season (but he wasn’t on there until a  year later when she had moved on)  Her dad worked at the Apollo and that’s how he knew Burr (she met him through her dad or something along those lines).  She was working on Colin Quinn’s show on Comedy Central when he guest-started on it as well and they started dating or something - he’s talked about it a lot

And pretty sure she’d beat his ass if he crossed any lines.

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