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18 minutes ago, Damor said:

I don't disagree with you in principle, and my poorly organized thoughts don't convey it well, but I am mentally picturing the flood of brain rot on TikTok and what's considered within bounds to shout at your derrrp buddies while playing Helldivers.

A "professional" comedian who will be held accountable socially and economically for their hot takes is another fair issue for discussion, but not what I was envisioning, but thank you, as I was very unclear.

Yeah I just think the same principle applies, albeit maybe a bit differently. Most people aren't going to yell at you in person or at the poker table or in your video game if you're joking around and not being a dickhead, you know?

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41 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

I might get some push back on this but I think it's important to draw a distinction between racial humor and racism. Racial humor is fine, as long as it's actually funny, isn't punching down, isn't mean spirited, and isn't leaning into actually harmful stereotypes. The same goes with things like LGBT topics and beyond.

Can you give an example of some good racial humor that doesn't lean into harmful stereotypes?

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12 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Here's some actual footage of the incident.  Almost without doubt a political plant.  And the student in question is a dumbshit.

Is this an actual student? I mean aggy is dumb but I don't think they are this dumb. 

Posted
20 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

Yeah I just think the same principle applies, albeit maybe a bit differently. Most people aren't going to yell at you in person or at the poker table or in your video game if you're joking around and not being a dickhead, you know?

I guess I just feel that the sheer volume of it on stupid social media and relative lack of accountability allows the gradual ratcheting down and blurring of lines between what's intended as ironic humor and what's just racism veiled in humor.  Particularly because the "humor" is usually really stupid and/or absurd either way.  In other words, the dismal tide.

But there I go just being old again. /principalskinner

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16 minutes ago, Laguna said:

Can you give an example of some good racial humor that doesn't lean into harmful stereotypes?

There are plenty of examples.

Bill Burr is very good at this. Dave Chappelle, even though I criticized him earlier, is probably the GOAT at using racial humor in this way. Chapelle's Show used racial humor probably better than any other medium ever has. Hell, the very first episode had one of the greatest comedy sketches of all time that, taking the awful, degrading language of racial hatred and using it in the most ironic way possible. He used racial humor and stereotypes to hold up a mirror to America to try and showcase how ridiculous they were.

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3 hours ago, Brian Fantana said:

Bill Burr is very good at this. Dave Chappelle, even though I criticized him earlier, is probably the GOAT at using racial humor in this way. 


Ironically, Bill Burr’s wife worked on the Chappelle Show during its first season (but he wasn’t on there until a  year later when she had moved on)  Her dad worked at the Apollo and that’s how he knew Burr (she met him through her dad or something along those lines).  She was working on Colin Quinn’s show on Comedy Central when he guest-started on it as well and they started dating or something - he’s talked about it a lot

And pretty sure she’d beat his ass if he crossed any lines.

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Posted (edited)
7 hours ago, F250 said:

Is this an actual student? I mean aggy is dumb but I don't think they are this dumb. 

shit's sad man.

and i found evidence of the course description that is from an archive before they changed it and the more recent one both indicating that the professor did not diverge from the course description.

I just wish more people understood the negative impact all this crap is having on Texas higher education regardless of someone's political/religious belief. It is scaring talent from wanting to work here.

This was the course description on February 23rd before it was removed.
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Current one:

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It’d be very difficult to find somebody in Austin who continually begs for an epic ass whipping more than Brian Harrison, and it might actually be his fellow party members who would be first in line to take the initial swing. 

Posted
10 hours ago, Vegas64 said:

Going to college used to be a Rumspringa for our young.

Go out to the world for 4 years and be quasi-autonomous and independent.

Go explore.

Try on new ideas and new strategies, learn new things, stretch yourselves and experience things in a quasi-safe place. It typically has a beginning and an end, and you will be better, more well-rounded and thoughtful for the wear. Maybe some things get unlocked or perhaps you just get to validate and reinforce some things you held dear already. Whatever. The point is to actually engage in experience(s).

In a digital world dominated by online, parasocial and social media relationships where life is experienced through screens (even a lot of classes via zoom, apparently), we've lost a lot of the experiential aspects of college I think.

And with the lose of real life, physical experiences I think we've lost the critical mass aspects that now, in a sort of vicious cycle, make those experiences more risky and dangerous. 

I'd add two elements to this... 

Protective parenting and an extensively online culture have dimished the capacity and capabilities for engaging in face to face conversations with people who hold different ideas or have different life experiences. Combined with the worship of 'tolerance' rather than understanding, boundaries are drawn and enforced with overreactive responses. 

The valid and important conversation about the cost of higher education can shift expectations away from learning and towards certification. The latter sees college as a commodity, and it follows that expectations for return on investment would support egocentric behavior (which is also still developmentally appropriate for young adults). Put differently... "I'm paying your salary, do what I want and get me a job". Colleges are deeply responsible for this mindset, particularly in their focus on 'investment' language and the arms race of amenities that many *resorts* campuses have pursued. You can't treat people like customers and then be surprised when they want to always be right. 

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The younger generation is so intolerant because they are tolerant of a lot of bullshit nonsense ideas. Their bullshit detection meters are low to non-existent because they spend the majority of their lives on the internet instead of sniffing out bullshit the old fashioned way in person. This lack of real world interaction creates the opportunity for all the bullshit nonsense to take root in their minds.  

I recently had to explain to my nephews that they shouldn’t buy things from a guy who is constantly saying how “legit” his products were. They were surprised at the notion that someone using the word “legit” was not selling a decent product. Maybe they’re just stupid kids,  but hearing a guy say something is “legit” on the Internet doesn’t ping your common sense meter the same way a sleazy salesman does saying the word “legit” during an in-person interaction. That’s what kids are lacking these days. 

Posted (edited)
42 minutes ago, NWBuck said:

I'd add two elements to this... 

Protective parenting and an extensively online culture have dimished the capacity and capabilities for engaging in face to face conversations with people who hold different ideas or have different life experiences. Combined with the worship of 'tolerance' rather than understanding, boundaries are drawn and enforced with overreactive responses. 

The valid and important conversation about the cost of higher education can shift expectations away from learning and towards certification. The latter sees college as a commodity, and it follows that expectations for return on investment would support egocentric behavior (which is also still developmentally appropriate for young adults). Put differently... "I'm paying your salary, do what I want and get me a job". Colleges are deeply responsible for this mindset, particularly in their focus on 'investment' language and the arms race of amenities that many *resorts* campuses have pursued. You can't treat people like customers and then be surprised when they want to always be right. 

Preach it brother. The irony (to me) is that protective parenting has actually been more harmful to the brain chemistry and abilities of the youth to interact in today's society, as the kids fell into screens and sink into the abyss of online.

However, maybe when they are in their prime earning years, they will have been served well, as everyone will be productive with AI agents and the only humans needed in organizations will be the aging forward deployed engineers of today.

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