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2 minutes ago, chemHORN said:

I think we are not likely to get in, and I think we should also cancel OSU, Michigan, and Notre Dame over the next few years.  Texas is for sure better than Viriginia, Duke, North Texas and most likely better than at least BYU.  If we can't get the best 12 teams into the playoff, then take away all the Network's money from them on early season games.   I say this as a season ticket holder that would much rather see those games in DKR than another game against UTRGV, but if that is how the system is going to be setup then it is necessary.  

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Oklahoma should be the team that is out.  They cheated to beat Auburn (and the ref squad was fired from the SEC) and barely beat a fuckin LSU team without a coach due to one blown coverage.  And we beat their ass.

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47 minutes ago, Sir Ulrich said:

Precedent will likely be set this year in one way or another as Bama can be the first 3 loss at large. Our best hope here is when debating setting the precedent of a 3 loss at large they compare the fullness of the Bama/Texas Resumes. I would still have money on their resume over ours but the FSU loss evens it out some. 

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5 minutes ago, babysdaddy said:

Oklahoma should be the team that is out.  They cheated to beat Auburn (and the ref squad was fired from the SEC) and barely beat a fuckin LSU team without a coach due to one blown coverage.  And we beat their ass.

Correct. They are shit on offense. And we know for a fact they wouldve gotten assfucked by Ohio State. I would be surprised if they could even break 10 points against them. 

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9 minutes ago, chemHORN said:

I think we are not likely to get in, and I think we should also cancel OSU, Michigan, and Notre Dame over the next few years.  Texas is for sure better than Viriginia, Duke, North Texas and most likely better than at least BYU.  If we can't get the best 12 teams into the playoff, then take away all the Network's money from them on early season games.   I say this as a season ticket holder that would much rather see those games in DKR than another game against UTRGV, but if that is how the system is going to be setup then it is necessary.  

 

Keep the home games of Ohio State and Michigan because we are owed those. We went to their house, they have to come to ours. 

But cancel ND and anything else moving forward. Replace those games with Minnesota, Florida State, Purdue, or some other shit program that is still a P4 as I thought that’s what the SEC required of at least 1 OOC opponent.

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I don’t get why Alabama is automatically in even if they lose when they are barely at 10 now in the rankings.  If they are going to claim a conference championship loss doesn’t matter are they going to put in both big 12 teams?  Why not announce the final 12 this Tuesday and the Conference championships would just determine seeding. 
 

I believe Alabama is in even with a loss this week simply because “we can’t leave out Bama two years in row” will be the logic of the committee.  
 

I want to see what happens if Duke and BYU win Saturday though.  

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49 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

We understand your position on this, as you've hammered every fucking page of several threads repeating it. Many of the rest of us would prefer to see good OOC games because we actually enjoy the sport. 

@immamac's point, which you either can't grasp or simply ignored, is that the committee can change the notion on "margin for error" by bringing Texas into the fold. 


After nearly two decades of watching SEC schools pay players while we refused to play the game I do not want to see Texas play a different game than our peers only to bitch about not making the playoffs. I was in Columbus this year and as fun as that was I would much rather be going to a playoff game.  The Cheese It Bowl just does not do it for me. 

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23 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

I really don't think you can punish the Ole Miss team because of Kiffin's actions. That would be pretty low, but who knows. Anything could happen.

Sure you can. Their team won’t be the same. You can also punish Notre Dame for not playing a legitimate schedule or beating anyone. 

I don’t believe either of those will happen. 

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Sure you can. Their team won’t be the same. You can also punish Notre Dame for not playing a legitimate schedule or beating anyone. 
I don’t believe either of those will happen. 

FSU was punished for their QB going down and they were undefeated. Ole Miss can most certainly be bumped. Aggy can be bumped for shitting the bed against the one conference opponent they played with a winning record. Anyone can be bumped that isn’t an auto bid.
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Just now, Goofyboy said:


FSU was punished for their QB going down and they were undefeated. Ole Miss can most certainly be bumped. Aggy can be bumped for shitting the bed against the one conference opponent they played with a winning record. Anyone can be bumped that isn’t an auto bid.

The committee actually had data points for how FSU looked without their QB

They have no such thing for Ole Miss.  For all we know, Golding is going to shit the bed and lose by 3 TDs, but there's nothing for the committee to look at to say "yeah, this team isn't going to be competitive" 

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1 hour ago, Mitch Cumsteen said:

I ignorantly thought that expanding the playoff would encourage better OOC matchups and give the fans a better product the first month of the season because teams would have more margin for error. Instead, it actually made it worse. Now you can game the system because it doesn't matter who you beat, it only matters how many losses you have. This has been the dumbest sport for the longest time, and with every postseason iteration change they seem to make it dumber. It was better when you woke up New Years Day and hoped that so and so lost in the Orange Bowl or the Rose Bowl and that you won the Cotton Bowl to determine who was number 1. 

Yep. And we thought there would be less debate. “Nobody is gonna care about the 12th and 13th best teams”.  Wrong

 

 

of course I think this is good for the sport 

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College football has jumped the shark for me. I love college football and will always follow, but this sport is just another professional league that doesn’t give a shit about the games themselves, rather the narratives to garner one more viewer. Yes, I realize this is a hot take and not a new concept, just saying that I was trying to give myself another reason to hold on but just can’t muster the give a damn. Preseason polls that mean nothing and everything, style points and politic-ing to beg people to vote your team in. Why not send out a text message to viewers to see who they think has the singing voice, I mean football team, to beat the champs!

These are the same circular arguments we had during the BCS era and zero has changed.
 

Alright, I’ll be over here fucking myself. 🤘🏼 

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1 hour ago, Mitch Cumsteen said:

I ignorantly thought that expanding the playoff would encourage better OOC matchups and give the fans a better product the first month of the season because teams would have more margin for error. Instead, it actually made it worse. Now you can game the system because it doesn't matter who you beat, it only matters how many losses you have. This has been the dumbest sport for the longest time, and with every postseason iteration change they seem to make it dumber. It was better when you woke up New Years Day and hoped that so and so lost in the Orange Bowl or the Rose Bowl and that you won the Cotton Bowl to determine who was number 1. 

This.  Law of unintended consequences.

Before, in order to get in final 4 you had to be bold in scheduling so you hopefully get as many positive data points as you can.  It's like being down 1 on the final par 5, you better swing for the green in two.

Now it's just keep it in the middle of the fairway and work for a par, especially if you're a blue blood.  And that's exactly who tv wants to play tough ooc games.  Good luck with that.

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1 hour ago, Mitch Cumsteen said:

I ignorantly thought that expanding the playoff would encourage better OOC matchups and give the fans a better product the first month of the season because teams would have more margin for error. Instead, it actually made it worse. Now you can game the system because it doesn't matter who you beat, it only matters how many losses you have. This has been the dumbest sport for the longest time, and with every postseason iteration change they seem to make it dumber. It was better when you woke up New Years Day and hoped that so and so lost in the Orange Bowl or the Rose Bowl and that you won the Cotton Bowl to determine who was number 1. 

It is interesting that people thought this.  after decades of seeing SOS's in the 30's to 40's be rewarded as long as you limited the loss column, watching SEC schedule D2 schools once a year, some even scheduling low/mid level G5 for the other 3 games, and still get rewarded with, get this, a "conf rematch National Championship game" it was obvious.  A leopard doesn't change its spots.

the OOC statement by the committee should have said "high profile OOC games will not be punished IF YOU HAVE SAME NUMBER OF LOSSES" they weasel worded something about like teams.

We needed these games in 2 team and 4 team era when in the Big 12 after neb/aggy left.  We don't need them now.  hell the Big 12 doesn't even need them now.

Lose early still exists also, see ND and Bama. 

The goal is to make the playoffs, just like the NCAA tournament in basketball, and to do that you limit the chances for any loss in a 12 game season.  This is different than basketball and baseball.  you can't have a 32 or 64 team playoff in football unless you eliminate OOC altogether.  scheduling a 50/50 potential loss is kind of stupid to be honest.

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13 minutes ago, GreenspointTexas said:

Fyi, these are the only schools we have losing records against that arent in the SEC:

 

Air force 0-1

Byu 2-4

Minnesota 0-1

Ncst 0-1

Northwestern 0-1

Notre dame 3-9

Usc 2-5

Syracuse 0-2

Ucla 3-4

Va tech 0-1

Penn state 2-3

I've been using Minnesota as an example.  get those motherfuckers on the schedule ASAP!

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10 minutes ago, Newy25 said:


After nearly two decades of watching SEC schools pay players while we refused to play the game I do not want to see Texas play a different game than our peers only to bitch about not making the playoffs. I was in Columbus this year and as fun as that was I would much rather be going to a playoff game.  The Cheese It Bowl just does not do it for me. 

What if they put little Cheese It samples on your seat, so that when you arrive for the game you have a tasty treat to enjoy before the game starts?

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Just now, Droopy said:

College football has jumped the shark for me. I love college football and will always follow, but this sport is just another professional league that doesn’t give a shit about the games themselves, rather the narratives to garner one more viewer. Yes, I realize this is a hot take and not a new concept, just saying that I was trying to give myself another reason to hold on but just can’t muster the give a damn. Preseason polls that mean nothing and everything, style points and politic-ing to beg people to vote your team in. Why not send out a text message to viewers to see who they think has the singing voice, I mean football team, to beat the champs!

These are the same circular arguments we had during the BCS era and zero has changed.
 

Alright, I’ll be over here fucking myself. 🤘🏼 

WTF does this even mean.  If you don't like national media, talk shows, narratives, politicking, etc. nobody is forcing you to consume any of it.  But of course people care about the games.  Were you at DKR Friday night?  Because I was and it was fucking awesome. 

And what you are bitching about is what makes CFB the complete opposite of "just another professional league" in every way imaginable.  Pro leagues don't leave playoffs up to fucking random committee.  Pro teams don't have calendars that make zero logistical sense where you are roster building during the playoffs.  College Football and the shit show that it is is about as unique of a sport that exists.

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1 minute ago, Dbeasy said:

What if they put little Cheese It samples on your seat, so that when you arrive for the game you have a tasty treat to enjoy before the game starts?

 

if you make it the toasty cheez-its, then you have yourself a fucking deal my dude.

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15 minutes ago, Im_smarter_then_you said:

I think we should be in. But it’s not a clear cut case.   We can cherry pick stats all we want.  If I were an ou fan I’d point to wins vs top 25IMG_4272.thumb.png.2e90308110242e1e3a1f101f83a67dd6.png

Uh, what? That list is stupidly wrong. As an obvious one, OU has two loses to the top 25 unless we are saying either Texas or Ole Miss aren't top 25. That list is also considering Tennessee and Auburn as top 25 based on when they played as opposed to, you know, how the season turned out. A&M has only played 3 current top 25.  Miami has played Notre Dame and that is it. Apparently, this listing was counting 5-7 Florida State, 8-4 Pitt, and 9-3 South Florida as top 25 teams. None of these teams are currently ranked.  We are correctly listed as 3-2 against the top 25. But is actually 3-2 against the top 13. 

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7 minutes ago, Js1 said:

The committee actually had data points for how FSU looked without their QB

They have no such thing for Ole Miss.  For all we know, Golding is going to shit the bed and lose by 3 TDs, but there's nothing for the committee to look at to say "yeah, this team isn't going to be competitive" 

I agree with you but I think the point is a precedent was set by the committee when they removed an undefeated team regardless if its a qb or coach they did it. Once that is set you fucked yourself for situations like this. They shouldn’t have removed an undefeated team ever. Hell if they did that to us because manning went down we would have sent the committee our backups slant pass for a first down and the winning td at miss st! Lmao. 

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I think we should put word on the street that we are strongly considering dropping the ND series and then actually do it if we don't get in the playoffs.  Double bonus as said is that the SEC should collectively stop playing ND anyway since their playoff positioning is ridiculous.

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4 minutes ago, UTexasFight said:

Imagine trying to decide a top 4 this year. 

be funny if it was OSU, Indiana, Tech and Georgia.  SOS 37,56,69,18

if you go by Sagarin right now you get Notre Dame, OSU, Indiana, Oregon.  no SEC or Big 12.

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Just now, Tex Pete said:

Let’s be honest: the committee can and will do whatever the hell they want to and reverse-engineer their explanation. 

As they have always done - not just the CFP, but basketball and the other sports too. 

They will not only say one thing, but then contradict it for another team in the next breath. 

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12 minutes ago, Js1 said:

The committee actually had data points for how FSU looked without their QB

They have no such thing for Ole Miss.  For all we know, Golding is going to shit the bed and lose by 3 TDs, but there's nothing for the committee to look at to say "yeah, this team isn't going to be competitive" 

How FSU looked that year without the QB has been what OU looks like this year.  Good D and brutal offense.  I'm sure the committee will see the similarities. 

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6 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:

What if they put little Cheese It samples on your seat, so that when you arrive for the game you have a tasty treat to enjoy before the game starts?

Tostitos used to do that when it sponsored the Fiesta Bowl.  Having a bag of Tostitos to enjoy before Texas beat Ohio State was a nice bonus.  

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14 minutes ago, Js1 said:

The committee actually had data points for how FSU looked without their QB

They have no such thing for Ole Miss.  For all we know, Golding is going to shit the bed and lose by 3 TDs, but there's nothing for the committee to look at to say "yeah, this team isn't going to be competitive" 

I mean they lost their entire gameplanning team, the entire offensive playcalling staff and the entire playbook/strategy. Ole Miss is gonna get their shit kicked in without Lane Kiffin and the 4 assistants that left. It's their entire identity as a football team. It's really stupid that ole miss didn't let LSU pay Lane Kiffin to coach their team to a possible national championship. 

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14 minutes ago, UTexasFight said:

Imagine trying to decide a top 4 this year. 

What?

That’s the easy part

Ohio State, Indiana, whoever wins the SEC CG and then tech if they win. 

 

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2 minutes ago, Tex Pete said:

Let’s be honest: the committee can and will do whatever the hell they want to and reverse-engineer their explanation. 

The dumbest thing about it all is that they start the ranking shows way too early with limited data (for TV reasons) and then end up backing themselves into corners because they can't even be consistent week to week much less year to year.   But I agree they do whatever they want and at the end of the day will always try to find the path of least resistance.   As someone mentioned, it wouldn't shock me at all if they put both Texas and Vandy ahead of Miami for the sole purpose of creating a fake buffer to continue to ignore the H2H with Notre Dame.   They will decide who they want in and then reverse-engineer the rest for their talking points.

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16 minutes ago, Droopy said:

College football has jumped the shark for me. I love college football and will always follow, but this sport is just another professional league that doesn’t give a shit about the games themselves, rather the narratives to garner one more viewer. Yes, I realize this is a hot take and not a new concept, just saying that I was trying to give myself another reason to hold on but just can’t muster the give a damn. Preseason polls that mean nothing and everything, style points and politic-ing to beg people to vote your team in. Why not send out a text message to viewers to see who they think has the singing voice, I mean football team, to beat the champs!

These are the same circular arguments we had during the BCS era and zero has changed.
 

Alright, I’ll be over here fucking myself. 🤘🏼 

So, a regular Monday for you?

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1 hour ago, SarksJuggs said:

Woke up this morning feeling like we’re getting in. Show me a loss. 

Monday hope after a big win over the weekend is always the best hope.

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2 minutes ago, field said:

Tostitos used to do that when it sponsored the Fiesta Bowl.  Having a bag of Tostitos to enjoy before Texas beat Ohio State was a nice bonus.  

toasted as a MF that day, grab our seats in upper deck. As kick off approached it was obvious there were a shit ton of unused tickets so we start snagging the bags from the empty top rows… then the ppl around us start throwing their bags to us too for the funnies. We, and colt, feasted that night. 

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3 minutes ago, immamac said:

I mean they lost their entire gameplanning team, the entire offensive playcalling staff and the entire playbook/strategy. Ole Miss is gonna get their shit kicked in without Lane Kiffin and the 4 assistants that left. It's their entire identity as a football team. It's really stupid that ole miss didn't let LSU pay Lane Kiffin to coach their team to a possible national championship. 

This.  Lane calls the offense.   Ole Miss won’t be the same without him on the sidelines. 

Golding will be lost without Coach Klein and the green notebook of plays. 

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1 hour ago, SarksJuggs said:

Woke up this morning feeling like we’re getting in. Show me a loss. 

I want to believe, but I just dont see it. Unless the Mannings and Sark and co are absolutely stirring up a shitstorm behind the scenes to get ND out, I just dont know how it can happen.  

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9 minutes ago, Tex Pete said:

It’s the main reason I think we’ll be left out. We are pretty hated. 

23 we forced them to put us in beating Bama, 24 was no brainer, 25 easy peasy to leave us out, but we expose their bullshit.

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Klatt has us at #12 in his CFP predictions and said that Texas has sent everyone in the media a packet stating their case as to why they should be included in the playoffs. So it's good to know they are pushing hard behind the scenes. 

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46 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Cancel ND
Keep Michigan and Ohio State to finish those series - fuck giving them the last game and not having them come to Austin in September heat/humidity. 

I'm sure we will keep those.  It is the ND series that should be in question.  we have ASU scheduled out a ways, probably portends the way CDC has been thinking.  

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