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I worked at UPS for a long time and know a lot of people, nobody in Louisville though. It's going around that the plane in question was pulled out of service last year and recently put back into service also that it supposedly had some sort of engine troubles the day before the flight.

Could be total bullshit. The attempts upthread to tie this accident to the government shutdown aren't the only ones politicizing this. UPS cut 48,000 jobs in the last year alone and have brought forward many other cost cutting measures that are extremely unpopular with the rank and file.

Just thinking from a logistical standpoint I know package volume has been running at almost half of covid high levels, so Im not sure why they would need to press a shoddy plane into service 

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29 minutes ago, cmontexas said:

out of service last year and recently put back into service also that it supposedly had some sort of engine troubles the day before the flight.

Earlier this evening Anderson Cooper had a guest on who reported and reiterated that its been confirmed with investigators on site there were no maintenance issues with the plane that day.  That stood out to me because there was comment in this thread about the plane having issues earlier that day.

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Earlier this evening Anderson Cooper had a guest on who reported and reiterated that its been confirmed with investigators on site there were no maintenance issues with the plane that day.  That stood out to me because there was comment in this thread about the plane having issues earlier that day.

Never believe anything you hear about a crash for at least 24 hours.

Seeing is another story.
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9 hours ago, Chad Fuck said:


Never believe anything you hear about a crash for at least 24 hours.

Seeing is another story.

Ironically this was yesterday evening so like exactly 24 hrs.  
 

As CS notes it could certainly be word twisting and of course always be skeptical.  I just thought it was worth sharing that.

 

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Ironically this was yesterday evening so like exactly 24 hrs.  
 
As CS notes it could certainly be word twisting and of course always be skeptical.  I just thought it was worth sharing that.
 

I get it. It’s human nature to speculate, and it wouldn’t be the Surl if we didn’t. Myself included.

I’m just saying speculation is all it is at the outset. Rarely do you get solid facts beyond “the plane crashed and the crew is dead.” That much we can see with our own eyes.
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Louisville Mayor Craig Greenberg said crews are working to identify 12 victims from the UPS cargo plane crash earlier this week while the search continues for nine others reported missing.

The bodies of the victims have been removed from the wreckage site by the Jefferson County Coroner's Office, and officials are working to positively identify each of the victims. The mayor said Thursday morning that crews have located six of 15 people reported missing after the crash, but the mangled wreckage in the area of the crash has made the search more difficult. 

 

As of 6 p.m. Thursday, 13 people had died from the crash.

https://www.wdrb.com/news/ntsb-releases-final-altitude-speed-of-ups-plane-that-crashed-leaving-louisvilles-airport/article_aa33fc78-18ef-420f-b781-e702b8be2957.html

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NTSB says based on video they have the pylon was still attached to wing after the engine came off.  That means it’s a different failure scenario than AA 191.  They've asked for maintenance records from ST Aviation in San Antonio where the airplane had its last heavy check (and therefore where the engines would have been removed).  They also said the takeoff roll was normal until 37 seconds into it when a persistent bell started going off on CVR.  The bell lasted for the remaining 25 seconds of the flight.  They did not say this but per Google an engine fire will trigger a warning bell.  On these older airplanes there is a fire loop which is essentially a metallic circuit that melts and breaks the circuit when there is a fire (and is the source of a lot of nuisance alarms.)  interesting to see from wreckage if the fire handle was pulled although it probably wouldn’t have mattered since there wasn’t enough airspeed to recover and the fire bottles would be on the runway

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Yeah I think I heard that wrong.  Now I think he said the pylon was attached to engine and came off with engine.  That is the AA 191 scenario.  The way he says it is confusing to me so I am not sure.

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Yeah I think I heard that wrong.  Now I think he said the pylon was attached to engine and came off with engine.  That is the AA 191 scenario.  The way he says it is confusing to me so I am not sure.

I understood it this way.

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