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https://harpers.org/archive/2025/11/the-goon-squad-daniel-kolitz-porn-masturbation-loneliness/

I couldn’t figure out if this was a Cloakroom topic or daily Texan topic….  But I think that this speaks to larger themes and critiques on American society while also being well written, ridiculous, hilarious, sad, frightening, surreal, and a complete train wreck.

IDK if the DT is the place for it. 
 

But holy sh*t has this article become a point of conversation within my friend group. 

It’s too long to copy and paste, but you should be able to just follow the link and read.

Enjoy at your own risk?

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If there is any coherent message to the sprawling folk-art practices of Goonworld, it is this: kill yourself. Not literally, but spiritually. Where mainstream porn invites the straight-male viewer to imagine himself as the man onscreen, gooner porn constantly reminds viewers that they are alone, that they are masturbating to porn because no one would ever deign to sleep with them. “Ruin your mind,” “go deeper,” “give up on life”: these are goon porn’s basic slogans, the movement’s rallying cries. Even NoodleDude—as tame a practitioner as one can find in this space, and whose productions a non-gooner might conceivably find, if not arousing, at least not actively terrifying—has adopted this attitude. In the introduction to his recent video “Follow Me,” a woman’s voice whispers ominously, or perhaps sexily, that “over two hundred ten million people worldwide are addicted to social media. You are one of those people. Keep scrolling. Further. Deeper. Forever. And ever. Submit. To porn. You can’t. Turn back.”

TexAgs might have a viable lawsuit for stolen valor

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10 minutes ago, Chad Fuck said:

Ain't no way I'm clicking on that from a work computer.  What's the...upshot?

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13 minutes ago, Chad Fuck said:

Ain't no way I'm clicking on that from a work computer.  What's the...upshot?

There's people who have chosen to spend literally all of their free time watching porn while trying not to climax. They formed online communities where a disturbing, nihilist culture has taken hold.

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Just now, chainsaw said:

There's people who have chosen to spend literally all of their free time watching porn while trying not to climax. They formed online communities where a disturbing, nihilist culture has taken hold.

I mean, I would if I could but...

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1 minute ago, chainsaw said:

There's people who have chosen to spend literally all of their free time watching porn while trying not to climax. They formed online communities where a disturbing, nihilist culture has taken hold.

Also, the internet is the worst.

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1 minute ago, chainsaw said:

There's people who have chosen to spend literally all of their free time watching porn while trying not to climax. They formed online communities where a disturbing, nihilist culture has taken hold.

You’re no fun ChatGPT when you distill it to one sentence.

The true understanding comes from the journey that you take by reading the entire article.

Well, that or your complete loss of faith in humanity…more so. 

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1 minute ago, Chad Fuck said:

I mean, I would if I could but...

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It's more or less the same story as the incel stories that came out however long ago. Guys without the tools to navigate life, find one another online, and form a toxic echo chamber that leads to tragic real-world consequences. The anecdote at the beginning of this article deals with a guy who, unlike incels, actually had a wife and kids at the young age of 27 but was jerking it while operating a motor vehicle and was so embarrassed after a drive-thru worker caught him on video and made him go viral that he permabanned himself from this mortal plane. The online culture of "gooners" seized on this story in the same way the incels seized on Eliot Rodgers mass shooting spree. The article has a lot of details about the things wrong with these people, but you more or less have the gist of it.

3 minutes ago, Dnaguy said:

You’re no fun ChatGPT when you distill it to one sentence.

The true understanding comes from the journey that you take by reading the entire article.

Well, that or your complete loss of faith in humanity…more so. 

I promise I didn't use ChatGPT, but I also only skimmed the article.

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I read some of the article. I thought for a minute it was similar to learning about furries and whatnot, as in the Kirk thread, but soon enough agreed with OP that despair for mankind is an appropriate response.

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Truly the "free" pornography world we live in will have unintended and horrific consequences above and beyond what we've already seen.

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Just wait until AI takes all the jobs and UBI is enacted.  The great philosophical question of “what is the meaning of life” will have a simple answer:

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24 minutes ago, chainsaw said:

It's more or less the same story as the incel stories that came out however long ago. Guys without the tools to navigate life, find one another online, and form a toxic echo chamber that leads to tragic real-world consequences. The anecdote at the beginning of this article deals with a guy who, unlike incels, actually had a wife and kids at the young age of 27 but was jerking it while operating a motor vehicle and was so embarrassed after a drive-thru worker caught him on video and made him go viral that he permabanned himself from this mortal plane. The online culture of "gooners" seized on this story in the same way the incels seized on Eliot Rodgers mass shooting spree. The article has a lot of details about the things wrong with these people, but you more or less have the gist of it.

I promise I didn't use ChatGPT, but I also only skimmed the article.


A.) This is an objectively well written article

B.) Gooners are much more of a fascinating subject than incels. Incels have given up, but still harbor resentment and are vindictive. 
This gooning shit is like some sort of techno-masturbatory nihilistic Buddhism or something. It’s like all the wires that make up the male human id are all crisscrossed into a spaghetti bowl of sadness served in a buddy curated experience in your tricked out beat-off dungeon.

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7 minutes ago, Dnaguy said:


A.) This is an objectively well written article

B.) Gooners are much more of a fascinating subject than incels. Incels have given up, but still harbor resentment and are vindictive. 
This gooning shit is like some sort of techno-masturbatory nihilistic Buddhism or something. It’s like all the wires that make up the male human id are all crisscrossed into a spaghetti bowl sadness surged in a buddy curated experience in your tricked out beat-off dungeon.

Oddly specific.

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8 minutes ago, Dnaguy said:


A.) This is an objectively well written article

B.) Gooners are much more of a fascinating subject than incels. Incels have given up, but still harbor resentment and are vindictive. 
This gooning shit is like some sort of techno-masturbatory nihilistic Buddhism or something. It’s like all the wires that make up the male human id are all crisscrossed into a spaghetti bowl of sadness served in a buddy curated experience in your tricked out beat-off dungeon.

It comes from the same base premise, which is that a fulfilling life and real relationship with an actual life partner are both unattainable. The impression I got was that there's still a simmering resentment at play. Technomasturbatory is a good way to describe it, but I find it more hedonistic than zen.

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1 hour ago, Dnaguy said:

This gooning shit is like some sort of techno-masturbatory nihilistic Buddhism or something

This bothers me reading it.

Am I missing out on untold wealth by not forming a religion like L Ron Hubbard did?   As head of the church, I should designate myself - “THE PRIME MEMBER”

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1 hour ago, Dnaguy said:

This gooning shit is like some sort of techno-masturbatory nihilistic Buddhism or something.

Whew.  Relieved that I never got into Buddhism.

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2 hours ago, Dnaguy said:

https://harpers.org/archive/2025/11/the-goon-squad-daniel-kolitz-porn-masturbation-loneliness/

I couldn’t figure out if this was a Cloakroom topic or daily Texan topic….  But I think that this speaks to larger themes and critiques on American society while also being well written, ridiculous, hilarious, sad, frightening, surreal, and a complete train wreck.

IDK if the DT is the place for it. 
 

But holy sh*t has this article become a point of conversation within my friend group. 

It’s too long to copy and paste, but you should be able to just follow the link and read.

Enjoy at your own risk?

well written article, but it was a complete waste of journalistic time and his conclusion was "well gooning is basically just tiktok but with naked bitches and jerking off" We engage in a lot of the same "gooning" behavior here on surly, it's not unique to gen z or young males or incels or volcels or whatever the fuck this guy tried to make it all intellectually about. There also aren't many good stories that came out of it, but that's not from lack of effort of this guy, it's just not that fucking interesting or even degenerate.

It's fucking weird out there right now, there's very little in person interaction and meeting people the way that everyone thinks about having made their close relationships on this board. Sure some of us may have some really good friends that we "met on the internet" or something, but not really. I think that if prostitution wasn't as vilified as it was and/or if there was a lot more regulation and less social stigma about it then people would probably get laid a whole lot more and be a lot more fucking normal about sexual relationships, but that's true about almost anything. Right now it's hard to do anything with a group of people even if those people have common interests. 

I went to Marlow last weekend to watch the Mizzou TAMU game, not because I'm some huge mizzou fan, but because I wanted to go somewhere where people actually gave a shit about the game and were actively engaged and willing to just talk to random people about it because god damnit they were at a bar watching the mizzou game of course they would love to talk about it. My wife was perplexed why I wanted to do that instead of go somewhere on south lamar much closer to the house, and I was like I don't wanna sit by myself at a bar with a bunch of people who aren't there to watch any games, but are just out to drink and talk to their friends and their friends only. That's what the scene is like at a lot of these places - people go out to have a beer or two with their friends over the course of 3 hours and a "game" the mildly care about and are just talking about other bullshit the whole time. They don't wanna meet new people, meet other fans for their team, talk about the game, none of that.

That's a lot of words to say that people in general suck these days and these gooners are no different.

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2 hours ago, Dnaguy said:

https://harpers.org/archive/2025/11/the-goon-squad-daniel-kolitz-porn-masturbation-loneliness/

I couldn’t figure out if this was a Cloakroom topic or daily Texan topic….  But I think that this speaks to larger themes and critiques on American society while also being well written, ridiculous, hilarious, sad, frightening, surreal, and a complete train wreck.

IDK if the DT is the place for it. 
 

But holy sh*t has this article become a point of conversation within my friend group. 

It’s too long to copy and paste, but you should be able to just follow the link and read.

Enjoy at your own risk?

User name, checking out. All that jizz, err, jazz.

And:

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JustDamage, it seems, once had a friend. Or maybe “friend” isn’t the word. JustDamage knew another kid on Discord with whom he’d occasionally trade pornographic GIFs and images. For large swaths of Gen Z, it’s possible that this simply is friendship. This gooner was also nineteen and was fairly new to the scene—he’d joined the community just a few months earlier—but had taken to it passionately, so passionately that JustDamage was concerned for his welfare. His room was “littered with trash.” The bed was littered with trash; the floor was littered with trash. The floor was also stained with piss (“every time he needed to go to the bathroom, if it was peeing, he’d just stand up”), and the walls were stained with cum. He painted his windows to keep the light out; he didn’t want to know the time of day. “I think he had over fifty sex toys: butt plugs, dildos, personal masturbators,” JustDamage told me. “None of them was ever cleaned.” Eventually, JustDamage had to stop talking to him. He didn’t know whether he was still in the community; he hadn’t seen him around since.

 

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1 minute ago, C-Man said:

User name, checking out. All that jizz, err, jazz.

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JustDamage, it seems, once had a friend. Or maybe “friend” isn’t the word. JustDamage knew another kid on Discord with whom he’d occasionally trade pornographic GIFs and images. For large swaths of Gen Z, it’s possible that this simply is friendship. This gooner was also nineteen and was fairly new to the scene—he’d joined the community just a few months earlier—but had taken to it passionately, so passionately that JustDamage was concerned for his welfare. His room was “littered with trash.” The bed was littered with trash; the floor was littered with trash. The floor was also stained with piss (“every time he needed to go to the bathroom, if it was peeing, he’d just stand up”), and the walls were stained with cum. He painted his windows to keep the light out; he didn’t want to know the time of day. “I think he had over fifty sex toys: butt plugs, dildos, personal masturbators,” JustDamage told me. “None of them was ever cleaned.” Eventually, JustDamage had to stop talking to him. He didn’t know whether he was still in the community; he hadn’t seen him around since.

 

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Posted
2 hours ago, chainsaw said:

There's people who have chosen to spend literally all of their free time watching porn while trying not to climax

So OP username does NOT check out?

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34 minutes ago, C-Man said:

JustDamage, it seems, once had a friend. Or maybe “friend” isn’t the word. JustDamage knew another kid on Discord with whom he’d occasionally trade pornographic GIFs and images. For large swaths of Gen Z, it’s possible that this simply is friendship. This gooner was also nineteen and was fairly new to the scene—he’d joined the community just a few months earlier—but had taken to it passionately, so passionately that JustDamage was concerned for his welfare. His room was “littered with trash.” The bed was littered with trash; the floor was littered with trash. The floor was also stained with piss (“every time he needed to go to the bathroom, if it was peeing, he’d just stand up”), and the walls were stained with cum. He painted his windows to keep the light out; he didn’t want to know the time of day. “I think he had over fifty sex toys: butt plugs, dildos, personal masturbators,” JustDamage told me. “None of them was ever cleaned.” Eventually, JustDamage had to stop talking to him. He didn’t know whether he was still in the community; he hadn’t seen him around since.

Oh, it turned out okay for JustDamage's friend.  Mike Johnson cleaned up his act, appointed his son his porn accountability partner, and is now Speaker of the House.

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Does it seem like Discord is becoming a kind of 4chan 2.0?  A place where similar internet subculture cesspools are festering, but without the history and stigma of 4chan?

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Just now, Goredho said:

Does it seem like Discord is becoming a kind of 4chan 2.0?  A place where similar internet subculture cesspools are festering, but without the history and stigma of 4chan?

not really? 



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