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25 minutes ago, KYHorn said:

 

 

It took me an embarrassing amount of googling to figure out y'all weren't talking about the Maryland guy who was deported.

 

I thought it was the dude show that was a spinoff from Dora The Explorer. 

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6 hours ago, AUS-97HORN said:

and it also means we have to be on the lookout of hidden drones on maritime shipping that just happens to go near Guam, Hawaii, Alaska, Diego Garcia, Marshall Islands, etc

Ukr just showed a very simple road map to take out millions of dollars of planes for pennies on the dollar. 

6 hours ago, Ghost of NMAS said:

If only there were some form of sea transport for large amounts of containers

Musk and Peter Thiel and Trump were pitching that Big Beautiful Golden Dome Bullshit to protect all of America.

Meanwhile, a few dozen specialized cargo containers sailed into harbors up and down the East, West, and Gulf Coasts could open up and send out a ton of drones that could easily fuck up a lot of our naval assets, our power grid(s), quite a few military aircraft, etc.

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With all this drone stuff, I would think it wise to develope something like the SR-71 but for bombs. And stealthier, and with enough range to get halfway around the world. Keep them in the continental United States out in the desert where they are isolated. Then again, that would require something massive just to have the fuel, and it wouldn't do anything an ICBM wouldn't. 

With all this drone stuff, I would think it wise to develope something like the SR-71 but for bombs. And stealthier, and with enough range to get halfway around the world. Keep them in the continental United States out in the desert where they are isolated. Then again, that would require something massive just to have the fuel, and it wouldn't do anything an ICBM wouldn't. 

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4 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

Musk and Peter Thiel and Trump were pitching that Big Beautiful Golden Dome Bullshit to protect all of America.

Meanwhile, a few dozen specialized cargo containers sailed into harbors up and down the East, West, and Gulf Coasts could open up and send out a ton of drones that could easily fuck up a lot of our naval assets, our power grid(s), quite a few military aircraft, etc.

Anti-drone tech is getting better and better every day, but it's always going to be chasing.  Directed microwave and laser are probably the best shots against this type of attack and I'm sure we're rolling that out at high risk facilities.  Our B-2's are only based at, what like 2 bases?  B-52's only a handful and the B-21 Raider is just coming online.  Most of the China wargame stuff I've seen says that if China got serious, the majority of our USAF losses would be planes sitting on the ground in Guam, Kaneda, etc.  We are not built for a long attritional war like Ukraine is in, we don't have the raw materials or resupply industrial base like we had in WWII.  Right now we are as vulnerable as we have been in decades.

Golden Dome isn't a bad idea, we should have it AND anti-drone tech as well.  But if China rolls up to the port of SF or NY and pops open a container of 10,000 suicide drones to fly into highrises, nobody has a defense for that.  And that would be a warcrime and very different than hitting a military target.

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This is some interesting reading. An internal FSB report reveals many of the suspicions and worries the Russians have regarding China, including espionage and revanchist territorial claims that China might have eastern Siberia. 

It's too long for a standard copy/paste job, so here's a gift link:

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/07/world/europe/china-russia-spies-documents-putin-war.html?unlocked_article_code=1.NU8.2cOn.6Ht_OrjXCSuO&smid=url-share 

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On 6/7/2025 at 9:13 AM, Parliament said:

Is this the first instance of an American-made fighter downing a Russian fighter?

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How soon we forget...

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Posted
23 hours ago, Judge Roybeanbag said:

Generally speaking, we have our shit in buildings, not out on a tarmac day to day.  

I think that's wrong.  Just put into Google Maps "Minot AFB," "Barksdale AFB," and "Dyess AFB" and count the number of B-52 are out on the flight line of the first two and how many B-1s are on the flight line at Dyess.

And to be real honest, I don't see just a whole lot in the way of hardened shelters for the aircraft at those bases.  I see the hardened shelters for the weapons.  But it looks like those would be driven to the flight line and loaded on to the aircraft.

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23 hours ago, pantone159 said:

This was an interesting photo of Diego Garcia, from about a month ago.

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We must not allow, a radial tire gap!

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25 minutes ago, Party_Taco said:

What’s this I’m reading about grain cars filled with drones taking out a Russian military train?!

https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/s/VSb6ZCp8Sb

Interesting. Livemap is reporting a denial of service on Russian RR web service.   It has to be related, right?

https://liveuamap.com/en/2025/8-june-11-ddos-attack-reported-against-webservices-of-russian

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On 6/7/2025 at 12:50 PM, Judge Roybeanbag said:

Generally speaking, we have our shit in buildings, not out on a tarmac day to day.  

23 hours ago, AUS-97HORN said:

so i saw on a youtube channel that the nuke bombers under the START II Treaty are required to be easily photographed from space to show Russia (and in reciprocation, US) that the other are not hiding bombers other than the times they are on a mission.   

meaning the bombers cant be under cover, or in hardened shelters, they have to be visible to both sides.

interestingly enough, Putin declared the START Treaty void back in 22 when he attacked Ukraine.    so that may mean we start hiding the bombers.

because heres the deal... Ukr just showed how a group with low budget could take out Capital assets.

the vid I showed basically said that going forward, the air force will have no choice but to declare no trucks are allowed to idle or rest within at least 15 miles of a US air base without having been cleared.... thats gonna cause all kinds of security chaos forcing truckers to move just in case one of them

and it also means we have to be on the lookout of hidden drones on maritime shipping that just happens to go near Guam, Hawaii, Alaska, Diego Garcia, Marshall Islands, etc

Ukr just showed a very simple road map to take out millions of dollars of planes for pennies on the dollar. 

There was an article in one of the threads here that discussed same. Basically, the Nuke treaties had a requirement on being able to verify aircraft, and that only certain named bases could house them.

1 hour ago, Ghost of LL said:

I think that's wrong.  Just put into Google Maps "Minot AFB," "Barksdale AFB," and "Dyess AFB" and count the number of B-52 are out on the flight line of the first two and how many B-1s are on the flight line at Dyess.

And to be real honest, I don't see just a whole lot in the way of hardened shelters for the aircraft at those bases.  I see the hardened shelters for the weapons.  But it looks like those would be driven to the flight line and loaded on to the aircraft.

Over the years, I have updated my Google Earth to include all of the Air Bases I have been to or have some knowledge about things that have happened. I've done similar things to O&G facilities I've been to, and others of significance.

I'm glad Bergstrom is no longer an AFB, and the only explosive proximate to my domain is the buried propane tank and a few gas cans.

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55 minutes ago, Parliament said:

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At this point Russia is wondering where all it will come from next.

And taking out locomotive power is an underrated thing.  You can't just go down to the dealership and buy new ones off the lot.  Choo, choo, Motherfucker!

The other thing I was thinking about is the result of the urgently pressing need to search and investigate every box and cargo plane and railcar and truck in Russia.

We know that the entire country is built upon theft and graft of government property and private property.  It seems impossible to me that the thorough ongoing inspections will not catch some of that theft and black market transportation.  Or they will examine the bills of lading and find out there is only half of the promised cargo.      I’m sure you can always bribe local people to let you steal things, but now the local people are going to be subservient to state security services looking through everything.

This has to be bad for the Russian national sport of crime-ing. 

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Posted
1 hour ago, Parliament said:

And taking out locomotive power is an underrated thing.  You can't just go down to the dealership and buy new ones off the lot.  Choo, choo, Motherfucker!

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Posted
3 hours ago, Schulz2.0 said:

That looks well done. I could see it painted with american flags and eagles being driven down some lonely Oklahoma road. 

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5 hours ago, Gatorubet said:

The other thing I was thinking about is the result of the urgently pressing need to search and investigate every box and cargo plane and railcar and truck in Russia.

We know that the entire country is built upon theft and graft of government property and private property.  It seems impossible to me that the thorough ongoing inspections will not catch some of that theft and black market transportation.  Or they will examine the bills of lading and find out there is only half of the promised cargo.      I’m sure you can always bribe local people to let you steal things, but now the local people are going to be subservient to state security services looking through everything.

This has to be bad for the Russian national sport of crime-ing. 

And it's a great way to find fresh meat for the front lines - somebody fucking around with stolen stuff or caught bribing or being bribed is headed to Ukraine.

The bigger picture - it will ramp the paranoia up to 11, because now they've had drones in cargo trucks, in train cars, and the FSB have to be flipping out over what's next - drones hidden in a warehouse near or in Moscow maybe?

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47 minutes ago, Harrison Stafford said:

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Kharkiv high school graduation photo taken in the ruins of her high school.  Fuck you, Putin.

Looks to be in better condition than some Austin high schools.

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On 6/7/2025 at 2:47 PM, AUS-97HORN said:

so i saw on a youtube channel that the nuke bombers under the START II Treaty are required to be easily photographed from space to show Russia (and in reciprocation, US) that the other are not hiding bombers other than the times they are on a mission.   

meaning the bombers cant be under cover, or in hardened shelters, they have to be visible to both sides.

interestingly enough, Putin declared the START Treaty void back in 22 when he attacked Ukraine.    so that may mean we start hiding the bombers.

 

because heres the deal... Ukr just showed how a group with low budget could take out Capital assets.

the vid I showed basically said that going forward, the air force will have no choice but to declare no trucks are allowed to idle or rest within at least 15 miles of a US air base without having been cleared.... thats gonna cause all kinds of security chaos forcing truckers to move just in case one of them

 

and it also means we have to be on the lookout of hidden drones on maritime shipping that just happens to go near Guam, Hawaii, Alaska, Diego Garcia, Marshall Islands, etc

 

Ukr just showed a very simple road map to take out millions of dollars of planes for pennies on the dollar. 

That rumor has been making the rounds but it's 100% made up. Treaty says nothing about bombers needing to be photographed. 

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On 6/8/2025 at 8:58 AM, bolverk said:

This is some interesting reading. An internal FSB report reveals many of the suspicions and worries the Russians have regarding China, including espionage and revanchist territorial claims that China might have eastern Siberia. 

It's too long for a standard copy/paste job, so here's a gift link:

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/07/world/europe/china-russia-spies-documents-putin-war.html?unlocked_article_code=1.NU8.2cOn.6Ht_OrjXCSuO&smid=url-share 

I'll read the article soon, but from your summary I'm shocked by these developments. There is simply NO WAY the Chinese would invest time and energy on stealing tactical and technical military as well as IP knowledge from their BFFs the Russians. I just can't believe that to be the case!

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13 hours ago, vtaenz said:

That rumor has been making the rounds but it's 100% made up. Treaty says nothing about bombers needing to be photographed. 

Knowing the Russians, and how they store equipment, they are probably too cheap to have hangar space for everything anyways (not that we do, but we at least maintain our stuff and we do it well).

Russians may start parking their hangar queens out in the open to soak up drones and keeping the good stuff inside.

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So @Schulz2.0 that first target is the area circled in red on this map, with Ukraine's boarder on the left in red.  Moscow is the poop drawing or whatever somebody drew.

Wonder why they aren't hitting Moscow - the drones in the video were big enough to go the distance and not be launched from trucks or rail cars (and they didn't look too stealthy).

My only guess is that Moscow probably has 50% (or more) of all Russian air defense hardware circling it.  They are hitting targets that degrade Russian military infrastructure, and unless Moscow/Putin gives up some of those air defense systems, they have a lot of fairly unguarded targets to choose from.

Still want to see the Kremlin in flames.

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Posted
4 hours ago, Parliament said:

OK.  So maybe this is the first time an American-made fighter shot down a fighter with a Russian flag on it?

https://www.twz.com/air/claims-swirl-around-russian-su-35s-flanker-shootdown
 

 

 

Just for the record, F-16s have shot down a number of Soviet-built MiGs in other conflicts, but I guess those were export MiGs operated by other governments.

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4 hours ago, Parliament said:

OK.  So maybe this is the first time an American-made fighter shot down a fighter with a Russian flag on it?

https://www.twz.com/air/claims-swirl-around-russian-su-35s-flanker-shootdown
 

 

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https://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/Visit/Museum-Exhibits/Fact-Sheets/Display/Article/196389/soviet-pilots-over-mig-alley/

Not Russian markings I guess

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59 minutes ago, Paper_jam said:

Just for the record, F-16s have shot down a number of Soviet-built MiGs in other conflicts, but I guess those were export MiGs operated by other governments.

Yep.  Last time American-made aircraft shot down Russian-operated MiGs would have been the 70s (Vietnam), but there is a possibility that Russians were in the cockpits of some of the Arab MiGs the Israelis fought later on.

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11 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

Yep.  Last time American-made aircraft shot down Russian-operated MiGs would have been the 70s (Vietnam), but there is a possibility that Russians were in the cockpits of some of the Arab MiGs the Israelis fought later on.

We were in the worst dogfight I ever dreamed of. There were bogeys like fireflies all over the sky.

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15 hours ago, Paper_jam said:

Just for the record, F-16s have shot down a number of Soviet-built MiGs in other conflicts, but I guess those were export MiGs operated by other governments.

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