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2 hours ago, Macanudo said:

Clearly.   I should have put peace talks in quotes.    

Oh, well.  I guess we're in our Munich Agreeement phase.  

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Still good.  Except as Brisket pointed out, Chamberlain at least had honourable intentions.  

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Posted
2 hours ago, B00M said:

Because they’re not real peace talks. It’s just an opportunity for Putin. 

 

2 hours ago, Armybrat said:

And for Trump Resorts Inc.

Trump Tower Moscow is back on the menu, boys!

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Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, Brisketexan said:

the Munich Agreement was motivated by a genuine desire to [have the English and French] stay out of a war, achieve peace, etc

FIFY

 

they didnt mind throwing half of Czechoslovakia under the bus.  

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Posted
1 hour ago, Chad Fuck said:

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Still good.  Except as Brisket pointed out, Chamberlain at least had honourable intentions.  

Well, it ultimately gave the Brits Churchill as Prime Minister - Chamberlain could not have managed the war half as well as Churchill did. 

Posted
1 hour ago, atomheartbevo said:

Well, it ultimately gave the Brits Churchill as Prime Minister - Chamberlain could not have managed the war half as well as Churchill did. 

We aren't Britain and in their case, the war hadn't started yet.   

Imagine it's mid 1941 and instead of FDR, we have a malevolent Marx Brother as president.  

I don't see any Churchill waiting in the wings here.  

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1 hour ago, atomheartbevo said:

Well, it ultimately gave the Brits Churchill as Prime Minister - Chamberlain could not have managed the war half as well as Churchill did

well... considering he died of cancer in 1940... I would say thats only 1/6th accurate. 

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3 hours ago, Chad Fuck said:

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Still good.  Except as Brisket pointed out, Chamberlain at least had honourable intentions.  

Not to mention, once Germany invaded Poland, Chamberlain was forced to confront reality and did not double down.

What he did not do, post German invasion of sovereign nations, is say "Hitler can do whatever the hell he wants."

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Posted
49 minutes ago, Hook1997 said:

Sounds like everyone is on the same page for the most part.  I doubt Putin agrees to anything they are proposing though.  

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/13/world/europe/trump-europe-ukraine-talks-putin.html

Trump Agrees on Ukraine Red Lines With Europe Before Summit With Putin
 

Now, all that has to happen is Trump honors the deal he made, and doesn't back out of it.  Thank goodness, nothing like that has ever happened, so all is good.

Posted
2 minutes ago, Pig Bellmont said:

Somehow this is going to end up worse than the deal he negotiated with the Taliban at Camp David to pull out of Afghanistan. 

And somehow find someone else to blame it on.

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Posted
1 hour ago, Pig Bellmont said:

Oh look, I was right

 

So gonna give up another countries minerals without them at the Table. Ukraine should laugh. But they need our support. 

This is going to be a shit show. 

Posted
11 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

So gonna give up another countries minerals without them at the Table. Ukraine should laugh. But they need our support. 

This is going to be a shit show. 

Going to be? It's a Tijuana donkey show already

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Posted

All of Trump’s gripes about Zelenskyy and ideas about how Ukraine should behave are simply reflections of how Trump himself thinks and behaves. And bad news, it reveals how Trump can (and does) treat America. 
 

Trump is frustrated when Zelenskyy says the Ukrainian constitution won’t allow him to surrender land because he has never viewed the American Constitution as a binding commitment he has to adhere to and can’t imagine why Zelenskyy would. 
 

He can’t understand why Ukrainians would fight against a much larger and stronger enemy at great cost to themselves because he would never do anything but surrender. 
 

He cannot understand why Ukrainians would refuse to surrender towns and cities to brutal Russian occupation in exchange for self-preservation because he does not care about America and would gladly hand over American land and souls to Russia or anyone if it meant he came out ahead. 
 

it’s all just a mirror of his own personality disorders. Someone for whom literally everything is transactional. 

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