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Cops break into EMT’s apartment and kill her while searching for a suspect they already had in custody

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10 minutes ago, Cajun said:

Let's be clear here, in this place and time - Cops are the "Perps".

No doubt, I should have put perps in quotes...'perps'.  Will edit. 

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1 hour ago, Orange&White said:

How is it possible that in the year 2020 the Louisville PD does not have ANY body cams?

Even if they can't afford them for every patrol Officer, they can certainly get some for the SWAT team.

I suspect they have them but every single one of them on this event suddenly quit working at the exact same time.

Because wearing body cameras might tip people off that they were cops. They were in plain clothes because they didn't want anyone, especially the people inside, to know they were cops. At least not until they got shot at, at which point the unknowing people inside "violently attacked our officers".

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Just want to point out that flamethrowers render the body camera question moot.

Body armor probably ain’t gonna do a bunch for them either.

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Wow! The NRA is staging a MASSIVE protest in Louisville over Kenneth Walker! Apparently they want to make a big deal out of how racism affects black gun owners.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Just kidding. 

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1 hour ago, Baconboy said:

Because wearing body cameras might tip people off that they were cops. They were in plain clothes because they didn't want anyone, especially the people inside, to know they were cops.

And yet they claim that they knocked and identified themselves before entering. Haha.

So let's recap:

JFC. If there's even one person in this country who can read the police's version of events here without sighing in disgust, it's too many.

The whole system needs to be blown up: policy, procedure, personnel, everything. And at all levels. Our criminal justice system needs a purge.

 

 

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You forgot that a neighbor also stated that s/he didn't hear the cops announce themselves - just the crash of the door being broken in. 

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1 hour ago, Braff Zacklin said:

And yet they claim that they knocked and identified themselves before entering. Haha.

So let's recap:

JFC. If there's even one person in this country who can read the police's version of events here without sighing in disgust, it's too many.

The whole system needs to be blown up: policy, procedure, personnel, everything. And at all levels. Our criminal justice system needs a purge.

 

 

Yep, they started squaking before they all got their stories straight.  In a fair justice system they've already hung themselves.

We are from from a fair justice system, unfortunately.  They will be given a "Hero's" Mulligan at every turn.

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Among other genuinely outrageous things about this story: some number of officers emptied their mags into an apartment and didn’t hit the guy who shot at them ONCE.

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4 minutes ago, Buzzrock said:

Among other genuinely outrageous things about this story: some number of officers emptied their mags into an apartment and didn’t hit the guy who shot at them ONCE.

Glad I'm not the only one who thought that was odd.

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1 hour ago, Buzzrock said:

Among other genuinely outrageous things about this story: some number of officers emptied their mags into an apartment and didn’t hit the guy who shot at them ONCE.

So, they’re Stormtroopers?

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10 hours ago, Buzzrock said:

Among other genuinely outrageous things about this story: some number of officers emptied their mags into an apartment and didn’t hit the guy who shot at them ONCE.

Nothing new there...

 

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8 hours ago, Kermit said:

So, they’re Stormtroopers?

Well most of them would have joined the Sturmabteilung in the 1930's if given a chance.  

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I feel like this one is being overshadowed and it’s every bit as outrageous as Mr Floyd’s murder.

Last I saw NO ONE has been charged or even fired. They straight up murdered Breonna for no reason at all. And then arrested her boyfriend for trying to defend her.

Any promising news?

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I actually find this one way more outrageous than Floyd simply based off the fact of how many people had to completely fuck up or flat out lie to get cops outside her apartment serving a no knock warrant.  Hopefully no one believes the one bad apple rhetoric at this point, but this case blows that out of the water.  This case shows the rotten process from top to bottom.  

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3 hours ago, Gene Parmesan said:

I actually find this one way more outrageous than Floyd simply based off the fact of how many people had to completely fuck up or flat out lie to get cops outside her apartment serving a no knock warrant.  Hopefully no one believes the one bad apple rhetoric at this point, but this case blows that out of the water.  This case shows the rotten process from top to bottom.  

Just a few bad apple trees.

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6 hours ago, Buzzrock said:

I feel like this one is being overshadowed and it’s every bit as outrageous as Mr Floyd’s murder.

Last I saw NO ONE has been charged or even fired. They straight up murdered Breonna for no reason at all. And then arrested her boyfriend for trying to defend her.

Any promising news?

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7 hours ago, Grandioso said:

None of the cops had their body cams on. 

 

Seriously?  Or are you just assuming the obvious?  

This would be a really good year for big city police departments to maybe dial back the armored vehicle purchases and drunken shopping sprees in the SPECOPS Catalog.  And maybe use 1% of those savings to invest in a body camera system that actually fucking works for once.  And how is there not, in 2020, a sensor system where if the officer takes his weapon out of his holster, or any other non-lethal weapon or the handcuffs, that it automatically turns his body camera on and it cannot be shut off...period.  After these protests and riots are over, they're gonna have a real hard time convincing mayors, police oversight commissions, and juries of the old line of bullshit, "Uh yeah, just before we entered the premises...my body camera underwent a software update."  

So many of their old tactics are no longer going to fly.  Y'all had a good run though, hope all the murder and evidence planting was worth it. 

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1 hour ago, Lobo said:

And how is there not, in 2020, a sensor system where if the officer takes his weapon out of his holster, or any other non-lethal weapon or the handcuffs, that it automatically turns his body camera on and it cannot be shut off...period.

It's 2020.  Memory is cheap.   An SD card big enough to film and ENTIRE 8 hour shift can be had for $50.

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2 hours ago, Lobo said:

Seriously?  Or are you just assuming the obvious?  

This would be a really good year for big city police departments to maybe dial back the armored vehicle purchases and drunken shopping sprees in the SPECOPS Catalog.  And maybe use 1% of those savings to invest in a body camera system that actually fucking works for once.  And how is there not, in 2020, a sensor system where if the officer takes his weapon out of his holster, or any other non-lethal weapon or the handcuffs, that it automatically turns his body camera on and it cannot be shut off...period.  After these protests and riots are over, they're gonna have a real hard time convincing mayors, police oversight commissions, and juries of the old line of bullshit, "Uh yeah, just before we entered the premises...my body camera underwent a software update."  

So many of their old tactics are no longer going to fly.  Y'all had a good run though, hope all the murder and evidence planting was worth it. 

I am actually wrong. It was a different shooting in Louisville where the body cameras weren't activated. 

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/louisville-police-chief-fired-after-officer-bodycams-found-be-during-n1221351

Edited by Grandioso

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22 minutes ago, Grandioso said:

I am actually wrong. It was a different shooting in Louisville where the body cameras weren't activated. 

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/louisville-police-chief-fired-after-officer-bodycams-found-be-during-n1221351

Electronics Vendor, "Oh, you're with East Louisville police?  We're gonna give you the working cameras then..."  

Thanks for posting link, just amazing and disgusting all at the same time. 

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2 hours ago, Lobo said:

This would be a really good year for big city police departments to maybe dial back the armored vehicle purchases and drunken shopping sprees in the SPECOPS Catalog.  And maybe use 1% of those savings to invest in a body camera system that actually fucking works for once.  And how is there not, in 2020, a sensor system where if the officer takes his weapon out of his holster, or any other non-lethal weapon or the handcuffs, that it automatically turns his body camera on and it cannot be shut off...period.  

There is such a feature available but there are issues with it (beyond just hiding potential evidence) that make it clunky and not worth using at this time.

There is even technology available that would turn on the cameras based on increased heart rate read from a "FitBit" type device, but the Unions would flip the fuck out if any department tried to implement that.

1 hour ago, dingleberryswitzer said:

It's 2020.  Memory is cheap.   An SD card big enough to film and ENTIRE 8 hour shift can be had for $50.

Storage is far less of an issue on these devices than batteries. Getting through a 12 hour shift on a single charge where the camera is recording nonstop is not quite available yet. You can make the batteries bigger, but then the device becomes bulkier and much more difficult to keep attached to the Officer. The proliferation of 5G cellular networks will greatly enhance current functionality of these cameras and add a whole lot more because video offload will be occurring in real time rather than just when the camera is in a vehicle dock or dock inside the station.

Where storage becomes an issue is on the back end. If you have 100 Officer running around recording full 1080 HD video on 12 hour shifts, that shit has to be stored somewhere. That adds up to petabytes real fucking quick and that is not cheap like the aforementioned SD card. Then you get into retention requirements. The VAST majority of body cam video is completely worthless time of the camera pointing at their steering wheel or their lunch, etc. Somehow that has to get filtered out and some lawyer and records retention specialist has to get involved in that discussion.

It's fascinating technology and will continue to improve.

I am of the opinion that there should be a federal mandate that any Peace Officer is required to wear one.

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On 5/20/2020 at 7:26 PM, Cajun said:

And I'm as big of a gun/2nd Amendment guy as you'll find on here (not named ArmyBrat), but fuck the NRA.  They don't represent jack shit in my world.

Fuck 'em straight to hell.

Wayne LaPierre (or however you spell it) is a piece of shit cockgobbler.

It's sad, man.  I treasure my little Marksman medals earned at camp.

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30 minutes ago, Orange&White said:

 

There is even technology available that would turn on the cameras based on increased heart rate read from a "FitBit" type device, but the Unions would flip the fuck out if any department tried to implement that.

 

Funny, LEOs and their sycophants love to trot out the weathered old trop of, "If you're not doing anything wrong...".

When heat lamp is on them however, it's quite another story, ain't it?

Another example of HERO status I guess.

Edited by Cajun
And spare me the, "But that's a Union thing" BS excuse. It's an LEO thing. I know plenty of them, some in my family, and they revel in their special privileges

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Here's a cop wishlist from a LEO FB page.  I really love #14, as you can just feel the disdain for citizens rights dripping from the corners of the fuckstick's mouth.  I wouldn't count on these wonderful models of restraint and de-escelation to be dialing back their lust for military toy shopping on the taxpayers' dime...

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When we asked our Facebook fans which single piece of tactical gear they would add to their police-issued equipment, regardless of cost, we got some great responses, both serious and far-fetched, to say the least.  It was remarkable how many people wanted Chuck Norris on call — and how many departments still aren't issuing body armor or TASERs. While it was difficult to pick through them, we selected 20 of the best (and most humorous) answers. Tell us your favorite, and add your own equipment suggestions in the member comments below!


https://media.cdn.lexipol.com/ems-old/1.gifA Surefire weapon light. For obvious reasons. - Zachary M. Levine

https://media.cdn.lexipol.com/ems-old/2.gifExterior Vest because of the heat... would be nice to cool off once in a 12-hour shift - Paul Sweeney-Hennessy

https://media.cdn.lexipol.com/ems-old/3.gifTo make the M-4 framed .308 semi automatic-rifle with collapse stock standard issue. This will give officers an almost fare chance in a gun fight. - Bruce LaBier

https://media.cdn.lexipol.com/ems-old/4.gifThe Easy Button. - Timothy Polley

https://media.cdn.lexipol.com/ems-old/5.gifA bullshit detector 3000. - Christopher Lee Adams

https://media.cdn.lexipol.com/ems-old/6.gifRCB batons. They are effective and don't take up space on a duty belt. - Robert Hawkins 

https://media.cdn.lexipol.com/ems-old/7.gifNight Vision glasses. - Jesse Steve Brown

https://media.cdn.lexipol.com/ems-old/8.gifA portable radio that worked for more than 60% of the time and provides clear transmissions. Ugh. - Jonathan Bruno

https://media.cdn.lexipol.com/ems-old/9.gifTranquilizer gun. Just put them to sleep and let them wake up in the jail cell. - David Moon

https://media.cdn.lexipol.com/ems-old/10.gifArmored patrol cars since most of the time we use them for cover. - Ben Hignight

https://media.cdn.lexipol.com/ems-old/11.gifTactical vest carrier so it's easier to carry all my crap on patrol. - Tim Barr

https://media.cdn.lexipol.com/ems-old/12.gifTASER, it simply is the best option to have in a variety of situations. - Isaac John Gerami

https://media.cdn.lexipol.com/ems-old/13.gifA Batman duty belt with 007 devices on it. Better yet maybe just the Chuck Norris round house, that handles everything. - Mike Kinzel

https://media.cdn.lexipol.com/ems-old/14.gifA crystal ball...since its such an inconvenience to ask questions to the important lives of civilians. - Marcelo Pirez

https://media.cdn.lexipol.com/ems-old/15.gifPersonal video recorder. Lapel mounted. I would want it for personal debriefing and for evidentiary purposes. - Christopher Matthiae

https://media.cdn.lexipol.com/ems-old/16.gifBody armor. Seriously. They still haven't provided any. - Jay Ó Tuathail

https://media.cdn.lexipol.com/ems-old/17.gifSome of those hidden suspenders for my duty belt, to save my back. Injured backs kill more careers than bullets or crashes. - Werkin Formy Paycheck

https://media.cdn.lexipol.com/ems-old/18.gifThermal imaging camera/night vision. - Ed Kienzle

https://media.cdn.lexipol.com/ems-old/19.gifI work alone in a rural area so a second officer to patrol with would be nice. - Matt Wagner

https://media.cdn.lexipol.com/ems-old/20.gifBulletproof pants. - Executive Edge Private Security

https://www.policeone.com/police-products/tactical/articles/facebook-forum-top-20-must-have-tactical-gear-options-x4uCvwCbt4nJjuzW/

Edited by Cajun
And #15 is interesting. It's almost like he just wants to say it - "I would want it for personal debriefing and evidentiary purposes. You know, the kind I could turn on when it suits me and off when it doesn't..."

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5 hours ago, Lobo said:

Seriously?  Or are you just assuming the obvious?  

This would be a really good year for big city police departments to maybe dial back the armored vehicle purchases and drunken shopping sprees in the SPECOPS Catalog.  And maybe use 1% of those savings to invest in a body camera system that actually fucking works for once.  And how is there not, in 2020, a sensor system where if the officer takes his weapon out of his holster, or any other non-lethal weapon or the handcuffs, that it automatically turns his body camera on and it cannot be shut off...period.  After these protests and riots are over, they're gonna have a real hard time convincing mayors, police oversight commissions, and juries of the old line of bullshit, "Uh yeah, just before we entered the premises...my body camera underwent a software update."  

So many of their old tactics are no longer going to fly.  Y'all had a good run though, hope all the murder and evidence planting was worth it. 

I can go buy a used GoPro for a few hundred bucks, and I can strap a wing suit and parachute to my back, jump off of a fucking mountain, make a fatal miscalculation and blow through a shit-ton of trees and tumble down the side of a mountain, and my family, if they choose to, can watch my demise in high-definition.  They can see where my limbs are damn near turned from my body, numerous bones fractured numerous times, where my arms are flailing about like noodles, and they can keep watching all the way up until other people walk up to my corpse and freak the fuck out at what it looks like.

But a lot of these cops seem to have really expensive cameras that accidentally turn themselves off when they get out of the car.

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Supposedly the reason why the camera feed went out during the landing of the Falcon9 on the recovery ship was because of reports of a black ship in that part of the ocean.  

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18 hours ago, Lobo said:

Supposedly the reason why the camera feed went out during the landing of the Falcon9 on the recovery ship was because of reports of a black ship in that part of the ocean.  

The Black Pearl?

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20 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

Are there any times a no knock warrant is appropriate?  I really cannot think of any.

Only circumstance I can think of is if there's suspicion of someone being kidnapped and tied up in the house and the cops feel they need to burst in before the kidnapper is aware of their presence and harm comes to the victim.

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On 6/3/2020 at 8:52 AM, Cajun said:

Here's a cop wishlist from a LEO FB page.  I really love #14, as you can just feel the disdain for citizens rights dripping from the corners of the fuckstick's mouth.  I wouldn't count on these wonderful models of restraint and de-escelation to be dialing back their lust for military toy shopping on the taxpayers' dime...

https://www.policeone.com/police-products/tactical/articles/facebook-forum-top-20-must-have-tactical-gear-options-x4uCvwCbt4nJjuzW/

Give them the load bearing suspenders, the outside vest, and the armored car. The safer and more comfortable they feel, the better for all of us. Even the taser and tranq guns sound better than up-arming them to win with force. 
the guys that want bigger and better guns, that’s what the special weapons assault team is for. Join it or stfu. Every officer isn’t swat. If your pistol isn’t sufficient, back off and call for appropriate backup. 

Edited by Pato del Muerto

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