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I would think magneride is major overkill on a truck, although it is supposedly fantastic on cars.  I suspect it's also failure-prone on a truck.


Au contraire, a truck suspension works harder when it is off-road.

Car dampers only have to really worry about smaller changes in road smoothness.

Gimme something like this that can have three dampening curves based on wheel travel speed and distance.

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Golly gee why don’t manufacturers just put those on all their trucks if they are better than what’s on there now?

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On 1/15/2020 at 8:54 AM, tx 3 putt said:

I’m starting to be really torn on suspension upgrade v spacer.

im basically going for Raptor type look. 

I’m not sure what there is to be torn about, are you looking for the cheapest option possible (spacers) or a true lift/leveling kit (suspension). I did spacers once and have gone with Fox 2.0’s since. The spacers made the front end feel way too loose to me, but I know people who put them on every truck they buy.

i like the ride of the 2.0’s and have never had any complaints in day to day driving. The 2.5’s seem like complete overkill unless you are off road a bunch. My only complaint on the 2.0’s is I do think they reduce towing/loaded ride quality. It may be more of a tire issue, but you definitely feel road issues more than with the stock setup. I may try a different rear shock at some point just too see the difference. I looked at Icon’s as well and could not justify the extra cost on them.

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I agree, 2.0 v 2.5's is pure overkill, but my whole truck is overkill 

 

I ordered the weathertech backseat under storage today. thinking hard about escort 360max. dps / deputies were out hard today between downton hou and port arthur 

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Mirrors on the A pillar and center brake light on the tire carrier say removable doors and roof.

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If a Fj and Jeep Compass Hooked up in dive bar parking lot, that’s the baby 9 months later 

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On 1/30/2020 at 8:35 PM, tx 3 putt said:

I agree, 2.0 v 2.5's is pure overkill, but my whole truck is overkill 

 

I ordered the weathertech backseat under storage today. thinking hard about escort 360max. dps / deputies were out hard today between downton hou and port arthur 

There is overkill and then there is just pissing away money. Unless you plan on running off road, it’s a complete waste. The 2.0’s are overkill for highway use much less 2.5’s. I’m at the interval now where my 2.0’s are supposed to be rebuilt, so I’ve got to take it in, have them pulled and sent off to be rebuilt, and the truck will have to sit for several days. I had planned on trading it before I hit this point like I normally do, but I just haven’t been interested in trading this one on anything.

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There is overkill and then there is just pissing away money. Unless you plan on running off road, it’s a complete waste. The 2.0’s are overkill for highway use much less 2.5’s. I’m at the interval now where my 2.0’s are supposed to be rebuilt, so I’ve got to take it in, have them pulled and sent off to be rebuilt, and the truck will have to sit for several days. I had planned on trading it before I hit this point like I normally do, but I just haven’t been interested in trading this one on anything.


How many miles on the dampers?

I’ve got about 55k on my Icon 2.5s, but I’m on an FJ which is a bit lighter. They’re still doing well.

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I’m at 60k. I’m pretty sure the 2.0’s and 2.5’s both have recommended rebuilds at 50k miles for hwy use.

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Been looking at F250’s again tonight. Think I may have to go take a look at one with the Tremor package when they hit lots before I decide whether to keep the F150 or not. The white platinum has piqued my interest again.

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1 hour ago, Brew said:

Been looking at F250’s again tonight. Think I may have to go take a look at one with the Tremor package when they hit lots before I decide whether to keep the F150 or not. The white platinum has piqued my interest again.

 

i can't wait for your pics  !

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Things I’ve ordered the past 7 days :

weathertech backseat under storage 

tool roll that’ll be full of tools 

bed cargo net / Bag holder

various straps / d hooks / s hooks / bungee cords 

tool pouch to store various straps / d hooks / s hooks / bungee cords 

 

want to order a trailer hitch cover, lot of  good options 

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3 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

 

want to order a trailer hitch cover, lot of  good options 

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I’m rescinding my recommendation of Fox shocks. As I mentioned earlier, mine are due for a rebuild because all Fox shocks have to be rebuilt at service intervals and the rears are soft from towing. Apparently, no one in my area rebuilds them and Fox says they have a 2-3 week turn around on rebuilds which means the truck can sit on blocks in the parking lot of my tire guy for a month while the shocks get rebuilt. I called the large Ford dealer in the area and their service department just replaces them on Raptors rather than deal with it. The local off-road shop says it’s the only shock they will not rebuild because Fox is a pain to get rebuild kits from and it’s not worth the trouble. 

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It’s ludicrous, my guy even told them to just schedule the rebuild date and he would pull them and Fed Ex them overnight and then it could sit on a spare lift for 3 days while they rebuilt them and sent them back. Fox will not schedule it and does them based on when they come in. The Fox rep is the one that told him he could just pull the wheels and leave it sitting on blocks in the parking lot while they had them. He still has my original front coil overs he could put back while they had it, but the tires will not fit. Simpler just to spend $1500 or so on a new set.

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3 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

So are you just going to buy new shocks?  I don’t suppose you kept the stock jobs for such an occasion. 

He kept them stored, but he doesn’t think the original fronts will work because of the tire size now. I may stick with the original thought of trading like I usually do at this time, but if not then I’ll at least have to get new rears. The fronts aren’t having any issues yet.

Dealer is bringing in an F250 Tremor edition to look at and he said he’ll hopefully find out next week at the dealer’s meeting what the schedule for 2021 F150 deliveries is.

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3 hours ago, Brew said:

It’s ludicrous, my guy even told them to just schedule the rebuild date and he would pull them and Fed Ex them overnight and then it could sit on a spare lift for 3 days while they rebuilt them and sent them back. Fox will not schedule it and does them based on when they come in. The Fox rep is the one that told him he could just pull the wheels and leave it sitting on blocks in the parking lot while they had them. He still has my original front coil overs he could put back while they had it, but the tires will not fit. Simpler just to spend $1500 or so on a new set.

 

2 hours ago, dingleberryswitzer said:

That's probably their strategy.  

I'd bang on them on social media and see if they are willing to change their tune.  I'm really not one to do that kind of thing, but their position on this is absolutely ludicrous and they deserve to be called out publicly for it.

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I wonder if it’s just the 2.0s. The 2.5s from all the high end brands use pretty much standard hardware and soft parts. The piston, rod, and maybe the shock body/shim stacks themselves are proprietary, but the serviceable parts are all pretty much standard otherwise (o rings, fittings, spherical joints, shock oil, etc).

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1 hour ago, Anton Chigurh said:

I wonder if it’s just the 2.0s. The 2.5s from all the high end brands use pretty much standard hardware and soft parts. The piston, rod, and maybe the shock body/shim stacks themselves are proprietary, but the serviceable parts are all pretty much standard otherwise (o rings, fittings, spherical joints, shock oil, etc).

The 2.0’s and 2.5’s are similar structures. I called around this afternoon and no one will touch them including the 3 local 4WD shops. One of them would recharge them, but not do a rebuild. I found a race shop a couple hours away that deals with FOX shocks that will do it if I take the truck to them. The kits are simple it looks like if you have the Fox tools and know what you are doing, but apparently no one wants to mess with them.

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2 hours ago, Anton Chigurh said:

I wonder if it’s just the 2.0s. The 2.5s from all the high end brands use pretty much standard hardware and soft parts. The piston, rod, and maybe the shock body/shim stacks themselves are proprietary, but the serviceable parts are all pretty much standard otherwise (o rings, fittings, spherical joints, shock oil, etc).

Give 2.5’a or give me death !!!!!

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On 1/30/2020 at 12:05 AM, Anton Chigurh said:

 


Au contraire, a truck suspension works harder when it is off-road.

Car dampers only have to really worry about smaller changes in road smoothness.

Gimme something like this that can have three dampening curves based on wheel travel speed and distance.

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Not sure we're disagreeing.  Magneride makes subtle valving/viscosity adjustments using magnetorheological oil that I would guess are easily overwhelmed by the distances a truck wheel has to travel and the pressures applied to a truck shock, both on and off road.

I would tend to agree that an external-bypass system like that would be far more appropriate for a truck than magneride.  Just like it would be near-useless on a passenger car, where magneride excels.

Magneride on a truck seems like trying to kill a rhino with a .22.  But that's just based on what i know about how they operate as opposed to what happens in the real world.

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I really like this back seat under storage. big enough for my hard hat, boots, and since it had so much space, gave me a reason to buy some tools. I'm going to better secure it with zip ties (ill have to drill some holes) but it's big enough to hold a full size jack ( i think)

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added a klein screw driver and box cutter to this tool roll 

 

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bought a couple of these to hold d rings, S hooks, straps and smaller tie downs

 

 

bought this for the pick up bed, $10 on amazon. works great for as little as it'll be used. held in place with D rings.

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on to the good stuff. im about ready to pull the trigger on AMP Research PowerStep Xtreme Running Boards. $300 more then the normal Amp PowerSteps, but I'm all about the Extreme lifestyle. $1800 / $300 install

 

 

overall, im loving this truck. 

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Why doesn’t the f150 have the factory collapsible under seat storage that the SD has?  Seems like something that would be appreciated on all trucks. 
 

 

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Picked up a 2018 NV Passenger this weekend for a family/road trip/camping vehicle. Built on a 3500 frame with 375 horsepower and 8700 pound towing capacity. Can fit a full sized mattress in the back and still have plenty of seating for the family. This thing is a beast.

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