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8 minutes ago, HornPhD said:

Then MAGA can blame it on the COVID vaccine 

Welp, you've got it pegged.  I mean, that's the play they're already running with respect to....Ozzy....who was clearly the picture of health, a marathon runner and such, before he got "the jab."  It's their play.  They run it every time an EKG goes flatline, it will be no different here.

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1 hour ago, GhostOfTomJoad said:
4 hours ago, Thetexashammer said:
Honestly suicide is getting too obvious at this point. Probably a "heart attack".

"She got the covid jab!"

They’ve moved on to the measles and polio jabs as the likely culprits. 

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https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/23/trump-jeffrey-epstein-files-wsj.html?__source=androidappshare
 

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Trump was told his name was in Jeffrey Epstein files before DOJ withheld documents: WSJ

PUBLISHED WED, JUL 23 20254:27 PM EDT

  • President Donald Trump was told in May by Attorney General Pam Bondi that his name appeared multiple times in Department of Justice documents about sex offender Jeffrey Epstein, The Wall Street Journal reported.
  • Trump’s meeting with Bondi at the White House as reported by the Journal occurred weeks before the DOJ said it would not release the Epstein files to the public, despite the attorney general’s earlier promises to do so.
  • Trump has directed Bondi to seek the unsealing of transcripts for grand jury proceedings related to federal probes of Epstein and his convicted procurer, Ghislaine Maxwell.

Attorney General Pam Bondi told President Donald Trump at a meeting in May that his name appeared multiple times in Department of Justice documents about sex offender Jeffrey Epstein, The Wall Street Journal reported Wednesday.

The May date reported by the Journal was weeks before the DOJ’s July 7 announcement that it would not release the Epstein files despite earlier promises by the attorney general, who leads the DOJ, and others in the president’s orbit that the material would be disclosed to the public. 

The DOJ said Wednesday in a statement that Bondi and Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche discussed the Epstein files with Trump as part of their “routine briefing” but did not specify the timing of the briefing.

The Journal reported that the president was also told at the meeting that “many other high-profile figures were also named” in the Epstein files and that the “files contained what officials felt was unverified hearsay about many people, including Trump, who had socialized with Epstein in the past.” 

Being mentioned in the Epstein records is not a sign of wrongdoing, the Journal noted.

The DOJ’s decision not to release the Epstein files sparked backlash from Trump’s MAGA supporters, who have obsessed over conspiracies related to the Epstein case for years.

In the face of that criticism from his political base, Trump last week directed Bondi to seek the unsealing of transcripts for grand jury proceedings related to federal probes of Epstein and his convicted procurer, Ghislaine Maxwell.

Trump had been friends with Epstein for years, but the two men fell out long before Epstein killed himself in jail in August 2019, weeks after being arrested on federal child sex trafficking charges. Epstein also had many other wealthy, high-profile friends, including Britain’s Prince Andrew.

Reached for comment on the Journal’s new reporting, White House Communications Director Steven Cheung told CNBC, “The fact is that The President kicked [Epstein] out of his [Mar-a-Lago] club for being a creep.”

“This is nothing more than a continuation of the fake news stories concocted by the Democrats and the liberal media, just like the Obama Russiagate scandal, which President Trump was right about,” Cheung said.

In a joint statement Wednesday on the Journal’s reporting, Bondi and Blanche said, “The DOJ and FBI reviewed the Epstein Files and reached the conclusion set out in the July 6 memo. Nothing in the files warranted further investigation or prosecution, and we have filed a motion in court to unseal the underlying grand jury transcripts.”

“As part of our routine briefing, we made the President aware of the findings,” Blanche and Bondi said.

Trump was asked last week by an ABC News journalist if Bondi had told him “your name appeared in the files.”

“No, no,” Trump replied. “She’s given us just a very quick briefing, and in terms of the credibility of the different things that they’ve seen.”

Trump went on to say he believed that “these files were made up by” former FBI director James Comey and by the administrations of former Democratic Presidents Barack Obama and Joe Biden.

The DOJ last week fired Manhattan federal prosecutor Maurene Comey, the daughter of James Comey, whose past cases had included the federal prosecutions of Epstein and Maxwell.

The Journal last week published an article reporting that Trump in 2003 sent Epstein a “bawdy” letter to mark his 50th birthday, at Maxwell’s request.

The letter “contains several lines of typewritten text framed by the outline of a naked woman, which appears to be hand-drawn with a heavy marker,” the Journal reported.

“A pair of small arcs denotes the woman’s breasts, and the future president’s signature is a squiggly ‘Donald’ below her waist, mimicking pubic hair,” according to the newspaper.

“The letter concludes: ‘Happy Birthday — and may every day be another wonderful secret,’” the Journal wrote.

Trump has angrily denied writing the letter.

“This is not me. This is a fake thing. It’s a fake Wall Street Journal story,” he said Thursday. “I never wrote a picture in my life. I don’t draw pictures of women,” he said. “It’s not my language. It’s not my words.”

On Friday, the president filed a defamation lawsuit related to the story against media mogul Rupert Murdoch; News Corp, which Murdoch’s family controls; News Corp’s CEO, Robert Thomson; the Journal’s publisher, Dow Jones & Co.; and the two reporters who wrote the article, which was published Thursday evening. News Corp owns the Journal.

Trump’s lawsuit seeks at least $10 billion in damages.

A Dow Jones spokesperson told CNBC: “We have full confidence in the rigor and accuracy of our reporting, and will vigorously defend against any lawsuit.”

 

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Posted
17 hours ago, Dahobbs said:

Are you sure? It has been circulated in traditional media as well. I'm pretty sure this is real deposition testimony. 

I was hesitant to believe the authenticity of video as well considering how damning it is and thought possible AI generation.  Here are some instances of it showing up in traditional media - so it appears to be legit.  

When the investigator asked Epstein if he had ever socialized with Trump and underage girls at the same time, Epstein pleads the 5th.  Why would he do that if the two of them weren't being pedophiles together? 

https://www.foxla.com/video/1680276

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/trump-relationship-epstein-further-exposed-131014740.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAJtD45VtsOWPGkG9z2R-EvdQ31-c--loZg6H1my100he9wUnW9VyUakwwFdP3gac-2pIbKyiAhVzGOKZH8s44pptjvXif8lNo-o94XLDe0qadOvdacZfTjHKGLncSbJ575X84l77F2WqlQmNyTt6N1sg8lT37kTZuvwMdPoFWMoY

https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/epstein-trump-video-plead-the-fifth-b2795557.html

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2 hours ago, Fastbreak said:

I don’t understand why he is pleading the 14th there. I can understand the 6th.

His pedophile attorney probably just instructed him to plead those 3 to any questions to cover his bases.

 

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Softening the blow from the Democratic motion, the subcommittee also approved by voice vote a motion from Rep. Scott Perry (R-Pa.) to approve a swath of subpoenas to high-profile former Democratic officials, including former President Clinton and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, who knew Maxwell and Epstein.

I’m surprised that the Democrats went along with subpoenaing Bill and Hillary Clinton and others that were involved with that,” Comer said Thursday. “I never thought we would be questioning the Clintons and others on — with respect to the Epstein files, but the Democrats voted in a bipartisan manner yesterday to do that.”

 

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3 hours ago, Fastbreak said:

I don’t understand why he is pleading the 14th there. I can understand the 6th.

 

2 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

Anything beyond the 5th is superfluous made-up dramatic bullshit.

Fuck that, I ALWAYS instruct my clients to invoke the 3rd amendment, because NO FUCKING WAY are you quartering troops in their house.  Capiche?

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20 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:

 

Let me translate that for you:

Republican stunned that anyone would take the position that the rule of law and consequences should apply to everyone.

You can't capture our current timeline any better than that rock-solid truth.  It is legitimately baffling to these people that folks expect the rule of law to apply across the board, and NOT just against their political enemies.  Because...and this is very, very important...the current GQP does not believe in the rule of law, not even a little bit.

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WASHINGTON − President Donald Trump said he hasn’t considered pardoning Ghislaine Maxwell, an associate of Jeffrey Epstein who is serving 20 years in prison for conspiring to sexually abuse minors and who is meeting with federal prosecutors seeking more information about the case.

Lawmakers and others have led a public outcry for more information about Epstein's clients, for more potential charges in the case. Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche met July 24 and 25 with Maxwell to ask what more she could say, which led critics to question whether Trump would pardon her.

“It’s something I haven’t thought about,” Trump told reporters at the White House about a possible pardon before leaving the United States for a trip to Scotland. "I'm allowed to do it, but it's something I have not thought about."

 

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5 minutes ago, kevwun said:

That video is supposed to be real.

it's not supposed to be...it is.

i am trying to figure out why fudge nuggets drove-by saying it wasn't real and what stupid shit got over on him.

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21 minutes ago, sidis said:

i am trying to figure out why fudge nuggets drove-by saying it wasn't real and what stupid shit got over on him.

i assume he was being sarcastic. 

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Trump's distraction methods fall flat against Epstein uproar -

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July 26 (Reuters) - President Donald Trump's super powers as a public figure have long included the ability to redirect, evade and deny.

But the Republican's well-worn methods of changing the subject when a tough topic stings politically are not working as his White House fends off persistent unrest from his usually loyal base about convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein and his associates.

Trump has scolded reporters, claimed ignorance and offered distractions in an effort to quash questions about Epstein and the suspicions still swirling around the disgraced financier's case years after his 2019 death in prison. The demand for answers has only grown.

"For a president and an administration that's very good at controlling a narrative, this is one that's been harder," said Republican strategist Erin Maguire, a former Trump campaign spokeswoman.

Unlike political crises that dogged Trump's first term, including two impeachments and a probe into alleged campaign collusion with Russia, the people propelling the push for more transparency on Epstein have largely been his supporters, not his political foes.

Trump has fed his base with conspiracy theories for years, including the false "birther" claim that former President Barack Obama was not born in the United States. Trump's advisers fanned conspiracies about Epstein, too, only to declare them moot upon entering office.

"Donald Trump's been running a Ponzi scheme based on propaganda for the better part of a decade and it's finally catching up to him," said Geoff Duncan, a Republican former lieutenant governor of Georgia and Trump critic. "The far right element is just dug in. They're hell bent on getting this information out."

The White House has dismissed reporting about Trump's ties to Epstein as "fake news," though it has acknowledged his name appears in documents related to the Epstein case. Trump and Epstein were friends for years before falling out.

"The only people who can't seem to shake this story from their one-track minds are the media and Democrats," said White House spokesman Harrison Fields.

Before leaving for a trip to Scotland on Friday, the president again urged people to turn their attention elsewhere.

"People should really focus on how well the country is doing," Trump told reporters, lamenting that scrutiny was not being given to others in Epstein's orbit. "They don't talk about them, they talk about me. I have nothing to do with the guy."

THE ART OF DISTRACTION

Trump in recent weeks has employed a typical diversion playbook.

He chastised a reporter for asking about Epstein in the White House Cabinet Room. He claimed in the Oval Office that he was not paying close attention to the issue. And, with help from Tulsi Gabbard, his director of national intelligence, he explosively accused Obama of treason for how he treated intelligence in 2016 about Russian interference in the U.S. election.

On Thursday Trump took his distraction tour to the Federal Reserve, where he tussled with Chair Jerome Powell about construction costs and pressed for lower interest rates.

On Thursday Trump took his distraction tour to the Federal Reserve, where he tussled with Chair Jerome Powell about construction costs and pressed for lower interest rates.

That, said Republican strategist Brad Todd, was more effective than focusing on Obama in 2016, which voters had already litigated by putting Trump back in office.

"The Tulsi Gabbard look backward, I think, is not the way for them to pivot," Todd said, noting that Trump's trip to the Fed highlighted the issue of economic affordability and taking on a Washington institution. "If I was him I'd go to the Fed every day until rates are cut."

Democrats have seized on Trump's efforts to move on, sensing a political weakness for the president and divisions in the Republican Party that they can exploit while their own political stock is low in the wake of last year's drubbing at the polls.

A Reuters/Ipsos poll this month showed most Americans think Trump's administration is hiding information about Epstein, creating an opportunity for Democrats to press.

Trump's supporters and many Democrats are eager to see a release of government files related to Epstein and his case, which the Justice Department initially promised to deliver.

"Yesterday was another example of the Trump folks trying to throw as much stuff against the wall to avoid the Epstein files," Mark Warner, a Democratic U.S. senator from Virginia, said in a post on X on Thursday about Gabbard's accusations against Obama.

Trump allies see the administration's efforts to change topic as a normal part of an all-out-there strategy.

"They are always going at 100 miles an hour. Every department, every cabinet secretary, everybody is out there at full speed blanketing the area with news," Republican strategist Maguire said.

Trump has weathered tougher periods before, and his conservative base, despite its frustration over the files, is largely pleased with Trump's work on immigration and the economy. In a July Reuters/Ipsos poll, 56% of Republican respondents favored the administration's immigration workplace raids, while 24% were opposed and 20% unsure.

Pollster Frank Luntz noted that Trump had faced felony convictions and other criminal charges but still won re-election last year.

"We've been in this very same situation several times before and he has escaped every time," Luntz said.

 

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Two questions

One - is there anyone on the planet that thinks there is less than a one hundred percent chance that he was absolutely a participant in whatever was going on with Epstein?

Two - is there anyone on the planet that thinks there is less than a one hundred percent chance he will face no consequences no matter what information comes out?

TL;DR - everyone knows he did it. Everyone knows nothing will happen.

Good times.

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So Maxwell told Blanche that she'd produce a list without Trump's name on it and refuse to testify to Congress if she gets a pardon.

Do I have that correct?  A convicted child sex trafficker has the President of the United States held over a barrel?

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59 minutes ago, tbone_ said:

Two questions

One - is there anyone on the planet that thinks there is less than a one hundred percent chance that he was absolutely a participant in whatever was going on with Epstein?

Two - is there anyone on the planet that thinks there is less than a one hundred percent chance he will face no consequences no matter what information comes out?

TL;DR - everyone knows he did it. Everyone knows nothing will happen.

Good times.

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