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3 hours ago, C-Man said:

Oklahoma's Department of Education announces a partnership with PragerU Kids earlier this week as State Superintendent Ryan Walters said it offers educators more options. Several days later, Oklahoma's biggest school districts tell DoE/Walters to fuck off and they're not going to use them.

https://www.koco.com/article/oklahoma-school-districts-opt-out-lesson-plans-prageru/45027081

More PragerU insight:

 

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5 hours ago, C-Man said:

Oklahoma's Department of Education announces a partnership with PragerU Kids earlier this week as State Superintendent Ryan Walters said it offers educators more options. Several days later, Oklahoma's biggest school districts tell DoE/Walters to fuck off and they're not going to use them.

https://www.koco.com/article/oklahoma-school-districts-opt-out-lesson-plans-prageru/45027081

Sure, Jan.

Yeah. It's been 0 days since Oklahoma was a shitshow.

The larger districts, as mentioned above, have told Ginger Shitheel to more or less fuck off. But I imagine what's left of the rural schools will slowly start letting that shit leech in, if they don't make a big spectacle of adopting it outright.

I don't put it past them to try and force the issue down the road. Like everything else, they're not satisfied with just breaking everything in the public sector. 

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5 minutes ago, Stilicho said:

Yeah. It's been 0 days since Oklahoma was a shitshow.

The larger districts, as mentioned above, have told Ginger Shitheel to more or less fuck off. But I imagine what's left of the rural schools will slowly start letting that shit leech in, if they don't make a big spectacle of adopting it outright.

I don't put it past them to try and force the issue down the road. Like everything else, they're not satisfied with just breaking everything in the public sector. 

And because Greg Abbott would rather Texas be a state that follows everybody else into the dumpster fire, rather than charting our own path to success, well we follow illustrious states like Florida, Mississippi, Louisiana, and Oklahoma.  PragerU was approved by the governor's office, without the consent of TEA (but using their letterhead apparently).

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3 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

but using their letterhead apparently

I have come to learn that this actually one of the most serious crimes a man can commit.

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On 9/6/2023 at 9:48 PM, Creasy Bear said:

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This guy has at least a dozen easily-debunked race science links he’s been considering dropping on us for months. I’m sure he’ll be back soon with “nu uh! Phrenology is still a well respected branch of science and only communists think otherwise!”

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Do y'all remember a few years back when Fox and the right had a freakout about the Dr. Seuss estate stopped publishing six of his books? I wonder what they'll have to say about Republicans banning his books in schools:

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Katy ISD has remained silent on the whereabouts of $93,000 in new books held for review and the reasons 14 additional books were removed from shelves, despite a public pledge of transparency on book banning. 

Of the seven Katy ISD board members, only Rebecca Fox would discuss her opinion on the move, saying the new policy may need to be revisited if exhaustive book reviews continue. 

In August and September, an internal committee found 14 books, including titles by Dr. Seuss, Eric Carle and Judy Blume, to be inappropriate for children for reasons the district would not make public.

Prior to enacting the new policy, Katy ISD removed four books in 2022, eight in 2021 and four in the first seven months of 2023. 

This year the district expanded the terms under which a book could be pulled for review, adding "nudity" in the definition of inappropriate material. For the first time, six elementary school books have been removed. 

The book “No, David!” — winner of Caldecott Honor Book and several other national awards — is one of them.

The cartoon David takes every opportunity to misbehave, but is always reminded his parents love him anyway, according to the book's publisher, Scholastic Inc. At one point in the story, a cartoon David jumps out of the tub and and is pictured running off without clothes on.

Drew Daywalt’s “The Day the Crayons Quit" was one of 44 books flagged for review in August that was later retained. An illustration depicts a beige crayon that has lost its wrapper, becoming “naked.”

Fox, who voted in favor of the book review policy, said it's an example of how implementation has deviated from the policy's intent. 

“Nudity was added to the policy, but a book about a crayon with a wrapper is not nudity. That’s not what was intended by the policy,” she said. “If this continues, we may have to revisit the definitions of the policy.”

Book banning has become a fiercely contested topic at both the state and national level.

Texas lawmakers in the 88th Legislature passed a law requiring library vendors to rate whether or not every book sold to a school district is “sexually explicit” or “sexually relevant." President Joe Biden earlier this year blasted politicians who "try to score political points by banning books." 

Katy ISD's policy calls for transparency and parent involvement during the book review process. However, the district's communications office and Board President Victor Perez would not answer questions about why the books were removed, except to send emails stating the removals are in accordance with the policy. Neither answered questions about how the policy is being implemented.

The revised policy gave the board authority to bypass committee review to challenge and ban books, the Chronicle previously reported. However, Perez said the board didn’t remove the books. “It is not the board’s intention that any traditional, harmless, cartoon-like books be affected,” Perez said.

Other titles removed from elementary schools include Eric Carle's illustrated classic "Draw Me a Star," Judy Blume's coming of age novel "Are you there God? It's me, Margaret," Dr. Seuss’ “Wacky Wednesday,” and Robert Munsch’s “The Paper Bag Princess,” all of which have been in circulation for more than 40 years.

Simon & Schuster, publishers of the newly-removed book "Crank," called the book banning trend "unprecedented in scope," adding, "Simon & Schuster stands against censorship in all its forms and supports authors, librarians, educators and booksellers who work to defend and expand access to books for all."

The amended policy requires titles of any incoming new books to be submitted to the board for review 30 days before they're ordered. In June, the board of trustees mandated that already-purchased incoming books be placed in storage to await review. The list included $93,000 worth of books, including dictionaries and textbooks. 

District and school board officials would not say where those books are now or comment on the process or timeline for reviewing and potentially banning those titles.

Shirley Robinson, executive director of the Texas Library Association, said some other Texas districts have asked library staff to stop ordering books or arbitrarily put books in storage until they can be reviewed for "sexually relevant" or "sexually explicit" content. 

“The problem is, whether or not a book is sexual is incredibly subjective, and what one person considers vulgar another might disagree, and in the meantime, kids don’t have the books.”

Former Katy ISD board member Bill Lacy called the board's amended book policy an "overreach of power," noting the district already allowed parents to stop their own children from checking out books. 

"Auditing books and pulling books or creating a list of books to review is not what a trustee is supposed to do," Lacy said. "A trustee is simply supposed to be that 30,000-foot overview of what the district is doing. ...You are not supposed to have some type of an agenda."

Fox said the board is fixated on book banning and other topics, like transgender issues, that don't improve academic outcomes. “We as a board need to be focusing on the issues that affect academic success, she said. 

 

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2 hours ago, Mo Horn said:

Well, in this one case, I dug in to it a bit expecting to be outranged it's hard to tell exactly what happened.  There is an email from a nutrition director saying that kids can no longer charge to their accounts directly from the cafeteria.  But, they do have a free and reduced meal program like everyone else:

https://www.davidson.k12.nc.us/apps/pages/index.jsp?uREC_ID=800358&type=d&pREC_ID=1189912

They also have a school cash online program, which is what we used to pre-pay for meals for our kids when they were in school.  For non-free-lunch kids, the parents put money into the accounts via cash deposit or a credit card and the kid has so much money in their account.  When the money is depleted, the account adds some via a credit card or the parent/kid can go add some via cash or check.

It's possible that this was a change in policy to not allow a kid to charge to an account at the cash register if their account would go into a negative balance.  If you were not on free lunch and you could do this, then there would be no incentive to fund the account at all.  Just keep running up a tab and never pay it.  If everyone did this, the cafeteria might not have money to fund operations, free, reduced, whatever.  It's possible that someone posted this email out of context and folks interpreted it to be something different than what it was.

Personally, I think we should just have free food for all kids in the public schools, just to make everyone equal and not have anyone stigmatized.  On the flip side of that, kids waste a ton of food at school and we should try to cut down on food waste where we can.

 

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On 9/7/2023 at 12:48 AM, Sawbonz said:

No she doesn’t

Dude, don't tell him his daughter is a stripper.  Just let him figure it out on his own.

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Our latest Frank Black Middle School update.  We just found out that they put him in all the wrong classes.  He is supposed to be in the Vanguard program but was instead placed in AP classes.   While there isn't much difference between the two, I was told by law, they were required to put him in Vanguard classes.  So now he has classes with friends from OFE.  The coordinator took him out during the middle of class.  Stressed him out, so that my kid spent the rest of the day with a coordinator.  The coordinator did not bother to tell us.  When we complained he replied asked, "Do you want us to switch his schedule back."  Not acknowledging how he fucked up and ruined yet another day for the boy.   We also found out that they didn't actually bother to review his IEP until after the school year started (original teachers) by about a week.  

I reached out to all of his teachers and asked about the transition and materials and one teacher replied back curtly, that I sent her the wrong request and clarified her name, never bothering to check.   The secondary coordinator was out of the office for training this week and had no idea how to help.   Another teacher replied, gave him credit for the work he did, and sent out this week's assignments.  So 20% of the core classes responded.   I am sure we will get to have all of the IEP discussions again, because if a teacher cannot even be bothered to check her roster before telling me I am wrong, then I am unlikely to believe she will bother to put in the effort willingly.    My wife had such high hopes, she knew her because our daughters are in the same grade at OFE.   

Let's see what this week brings.

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Frank Black, Black Francis, Pixies, has probably deluded me into having some hope.   Also, the math teacher, the one we originally had the biggest reaction to, has become our boy's biggest advocate within the school.  I can tell she took the time to read up on anxiety and ASD and though she has no formal training, she appears to have a better grasp of it than many others do now.  

  

 

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We must protect school children from the writings of a teenage girl, hiding from the Nazis, documenting her natural transformation into womanhood but we can't protect them from getting shot in schools because thoughts and prayers. We can't let 13 year olds learn about puberty because "think of the children" but will make a 13 year old child carry to a baby to term because women's bodies belong to the state.

FUCK TEXAS.

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17 hours ago, Beau Vine said:

I think the only book I ever actually read in HS was Canterbury Tales, so this hits close to home.

Child of the 60s here.  We read Once and Future King, The Hobbit and To Kill a Mockingbird.   I know at least one of those is banned by many schools now.

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That's a good idea.  I always thought about planting a few of those raunchy porn paperbacks, but they're hard to find anymore, thanks to the internet.   I figured it would give the old biddies in my community something to get up in arms about.  

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https://www.kxan.com/news/texas/sen-ted-cruz-says-there-is-no-domestic-issue-he-cares-more-about-than-school-choice/
 

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U.S. Senator Ted Cruz, R-Texas, told a lively crowd at the Paramount Theater on Sunday that “there is no domestic issue I care more about than school choice.” 

Cruz, who is seeking a third term in the U.S. Senate in 2024, answered questions posed by Texas Tribune Political Reporter Patrick Svitek about several hot topics Texans care about during a TribFest appearance.

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“I look at every vote the state legislature has taken on ‘school choice.’ If you’re a state legislator [who] voted in favor of ‘choice,’ and you are otherwise relatively conservative, you are quite likely to get my support,” Cruz said. “If you voted against ‘choice,’ then the chances of my supporting you are essentially zero.” 

On Tuesday, Gov. Greg Abbott announced he intends to call a special session next month to pass “school choice” legislation. He has proposed a school voucher-like program where eligible families could be sent $8,000 per child to subsidize private school expenses.

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The Texas legislature looked at these initiatives last session, and the Texas House of Representatives voted to prohibit state money from funding private school vouchers or education savings accounts, per KXAN reporting. 

“If when I die, my tombstone says that, ‘Ted played a meaningful role in bringing school choice to the kids of Texas and the kids of America,’ then I die a happy man,” Cruz said. 

So he’s going to work against Republicans who don’t support vouchers.  
 

This fucking state.

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8 minutes ago, Updawg said:

They seem to be ready to ram this shit through

Yeah, with Cruz out there making it clear that it's going to be a campaign issue for anybody not supporting it.

But Cruz and Abbott don't seem to realize that the rurals don't care to pay for the big cities/suburbs to get private schools that will never ever sniff the likes of Buttfuck, Texas.

8 minutes ago, Updawg said:

This state is going to be in rough shape in 15 years

15 years?

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14 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Yeah, with Cruz out there making it clear that it's going to be a campaign issue for anybody not supporting it.

But Cruz and Abbott don't seem to realize that the rurals don't care to pay for the big cities/suburbs to get private schools that will never ever sniff the likes of Buttfuck, Texas.

15 years?

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they’ll tack on money for home schooled kids too, is my guess 

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On 9/17/2023 at 7:48 PM, Pods said:

Dems: We should make sure kids have quality education, access to healthcare and food. 

GOP: That's cOmMuNiSm

The end game couldn't be more obvious.  Nothing but uneducated morons walking around with no ability to better themselves through education and unable to use collective bargaining to make a living wage.  So, they work as slaves with no reproductive rights, health insurance, or retirement other than what's already on the books (and Rick Scott and Trump have said they want to take away).

Sounds like paradise for someone.

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2 hours ago, Bullneck said:

The end game couldn't be more obvious.  Nothing but uneducated morons walking around with no ability to better themselves through education and unable to use collective bargaining to make a living wage.  So, they work as slaves with no reproductive rights, health insurance, or retirement other than what's already on the books (and Rick Scott and Trump have said they want to take away).

Sounds like paradise for someone.

 

 

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On 9/23/2023 at 11:46 PM, tx 3 putt said:

 

 

shit, you sent me down a rabbit hole looking up clips of this movie

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On 9/20/2023 at 9:31 AM, crash_davis said:

We must protect school children from the writings of a teenage girl, hiding from the Nazis, documenting her natural transformation into womanhood but we can't protect them from getting shot in schools because thoughts and prayers. We can't let 13 year olds learn about puberty because "think of the children" but will make a 13 year old child carry to a baby to term because women's bodies belong to the state.

FUCK TEXAS.

My daughter currently has the diary of Anne Frank checked out from her school library.  From a middle school in aggyville.  

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On 9/23/2023 at 7:54 PM, atomheartbevo said:

https://www.kxan.com/news/texas/sen-ted-cruz-says-there-is-no-domestic-issue-he-cares-more-about-than-school-choice/
 

So he’s going to work against Republicans who don’t support vouchers.  
 

This fucking state.

If the Texas Democratic party had any brains, they'd use this to beat Cruz next year. School choice is poison in rural areas and Dems would only need to swing a small share of the rural vote to beat him.

I bet they don't even make it a campaign issue.

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1 hour ago, fattyflattie said:

My daughter currently has the diary of Anne Frank checked out from her school library.  From a middle school in aggyville.  

Yeah farty, we know you're not capable of giving a shit about something until it personally affects you. Because if it's not happening in your immediate presence, it must not be happening anywhere in the state.

 

For what it's worth: if your daughter is reading an unedited version of her diary, she's *gasp* GOING TO READ ABOUT MASTURBATION AND DISCOVERING SEXUALITY! Please try not to shoot up your local library in outrage.

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9 minutes ago, Captainant said:

Yeah farty, we know you're not capable of giving a shit about something until it personally affects you. Because if it's not happening in your immediate presence, it must not be happening anywhere in the state.

 

For what it's worth: if your daughter is reading an unedited version of her diary, she's *gasp* GOING TO READ ABOUT MASTURBATION AND DISCOVERING SEXUALITY! Please try not to shoot up your local library in outrage.

Lol fuck off. Enjoy your outrage tweets.

fwd:fwd:fwd!!1!Book burning in Texas schools!!1!1! 

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1 hour ago, fattyflattie said:

My daughter currently has the diary of Anne Frank checked out from her school library.  From a middle school in aggyville.  


those books make the nazis look bad !!!!

very one sided story !!!!

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1 minute ago, fattyflattie said:

Lol fuck off. Enjoy your outrage tweets.

fwd:fwd:fwd!!1!Book burning in Texas schools!!1!1! 

Teachers are getting fired up in Dallas for having students read the illustrated version and uncritical idiot karens are calling it "graphic" and equating it to pornography. It's fucking happening right now in our state dude. To the contrary, it's your kin and friends pushing the falsehoods and lies.

A couple of parents heard that the book touched on sexuality, and it's illustrated, so OBVIOUSLY it must have drawings depicting an underage girl doing sexual things. Which couldn't be farther from the case. But it doesn't matter, it's been made sufficiently "hot" by MAGA culture warriors, so they kowtow.

 

If you could just pull your head out of your aggy ass, you'd be a hell of a lot better poster.

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9 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

Yet not a single person in the thread has had it happen at their school.  Weird. 

How many books have been pulled from your schools shelves for being "inappropriate" because they had depictions of homosexuality? In my local ISD it's been happing left right and fucking center.

Banning books and punishing educators for educating is fucking happening man. Sorry it's too uncomfortable for you to believe it's something that YOU VOTED FOR

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9 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

Yet not a single person in the thread has had it happen at their school.  Weird. 

Guess the "slippery slope" argument only applies to Republicans/2A/guns, definitely not in this case.

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12 minutes ago, Captainant said:

Teachers are getting fired up in Dallas for having students read the illustrated version and uncritical idiot karens are calling it "graphic" and equating it to pornography. It's fucking happening right now in our state dude. To the contrary, it's your kin and friends pushing the falsehoods and lies.

A couple of parents heard that the book touched on sexuality, and it's illustrated, so OBVIOUSLY it must have drawings depicting an underage girl doing sexual things. Which couldn't be farther from the case. But it doesn't matter, it's been made sufficiently "hot" by MAGA culture warriors, so they kowtow.

 

If you could just pull your head out of your aggy ass, you'd be a hell of a lot better poster.

Not that it really matters but this is an article in the Dallas Morning News but I think the actual event where the teacher was fired for using the illustrated Anne Frank Diary was down near Houston in "aggy" country. We have enough of our own "banning" issues in Collin County and our backyard as it is.

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1 minute ago, C-Man said:

Not that it really matters but this is an article in the Dallas Morning News but I think the actual event where the teacher was fired for using the illustrated Anne Frank Diary was down near Houston in "aggy" country. We have enough of our own "banning" issues in Collin County and our backyard as it is.

Huh. Thanks for that, I didn't even think to check where the ISD was and just assumed it was near Dallas because of the reporting entity. Hamshire-Fannett is just SW of Beaumont/Port Neches

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Teachers are literally being fired for reading from a book that is one of the most recognized elements of most curricula for well over a half century.

GQP stalwarts like Fatty are telling you functionally "whatever, overreacting, it's not even happening."  

That's good old gaslighting, folks.  Which is a lie.

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5 hours ago, Captainant said:

This infographic is from last year, but illustrates my concern and the very real trend that fatty would rather believe isn't happening

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It’s happening in emails across many states, it appears.  

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Romeo and Juliet was pulled for challenge here in Keller. I mean if you want to do some dumb shit like challenge Shakespeare at least go after the one where the main character’s father is killed by his uncle who then fucks and marries his mother whilst the main character contemplates his existence and should he just kill himself while actually driving his girlfriend to do it.

I think back to how turbofucked my 9th (or was it 8th) grade English teacher would be now. We read it and then watched it…the Zeffirelli version. That was a special day.

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If you have the means to do so and want your children to receive a better education get you and your family to a place not run by people that openly advocate how wonderful charter schools are (New York has a lot of these people as evidenced by the 1000 charter schools/child profit centers here) and find somewhere that doesn’t ban books as well.
 

That we are in 2023 living with people who have more in common with the folks running the Salem Witch Trials than modern methods of effective education is astounding. The fighting you will encounter with these people is just not worth it. Take your family to a place where education matters. Not everyone obviously has the monetary means to do this, but if you do then go for it and make sure you either get your son or daughter in a public school or pay for a private school education  if you have the means for that or prefer that. 

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Right-wing influencer Jordan Peterson announced in a recent podcast episode alongside his daughter that he is launching an online university without accreditation.

The venture labeled “Peterson Academy” is an “online education platform…utilizing a revolutionary learning app and coupling it with professionally produced content, we aim to make education both affordable and useful,” according to the program’s YouTube page. The former psychology professor vowed the program would be 95% less expensive than a typical university.


While touting the benefits of joining the online course, Peterson noted that once all the courses are ready to go then his potential students will be able to take them so they “won’t be a complete embarrassment” to themselves.  Peterson also predicted the skills provided in the program will help student interact with “sophisticated people.”

“You need to be enculturated so that you can play with sophisticated people and you could play a sophisticated and productive game, but also so that you’ve informed yourself with the greatest ideas of history so that whatever problem you’re tackling, you’re going to have tools to tackle it with,” Peterson said.

“A degree from our university will signify high level conscientiousness and general cognitive ability, and those are very valuable for any employer with a clue,” he continued. “So I think we can just skip the rotation process and go right to the employers.”
Mikhaila Peterson claimed the full program will not be available until November and it will “change the education system….that’s funny, it’s weird.”

“Up yours woke moralists. We’ll see who cancels who. That sort of funny?” Peterson joked backed to his daughter.

 

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Huh so it turns out most of these challenges to books across the nation are mainly from a small handful of karens

https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2023/09/28/virginia-frequent-school-book-challenger-spotsylvania/

But thanks to very fine people INSISTING that this couldn't be happening all over the country, these sorts of intellectual arsonists have all the room they need to pull books off of shelves and censor anything that isn't white puritanical schlock

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1 hour ago, Captainant said:

Huh so it turns out most of these challenges to books across the nation are mainly from a small handful of karens

https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2023/09/28/virginia-frequent-school-book-challenger-spotsylvania/

But thanks to very fine people INSISTING that this couldn't be happening all over the country, these sorts of intellectual arsonists have all the room they need to pull books off of shelves and censor anything that isn't white puritanical schlock

There's one group behind all of the anti-porn legislation (trying to make people identify themselves online to look at porn).



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