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I love the notion that Arch only looked good against inferior opponents when Quinn was 0-3 against Georgia and Ohio State last season. He also tried his best to lose to aggy, but the defense saved him. And Arch came in and scored a TD that game as well.

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This thread should be killed.

Drive a stake through its heart.

cut off its head with a silver dagger.

stuff it’s mouth with holy wafers.

Burn the body.

Scatter the ashes at the four corners of the continent.

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11 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

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Absolutely coaching malpractice by Sark if true.

None of this adds up.

He's been hurt every year he's been here.  Can he last a full season?  If he was hurt, where were the plays for Arch?  If he wasn't really hurt, is he covering for bad play for his boy?

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54 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

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Absolutely coaching malpractice by Sark if true.

In the video he's asked if it was a full or partial tear of the oblique, and Quinn said it was labeled as a sprain but felt worse. And that he hurt it on Monday after Michigan and it got worse throughout the week.

 

BTW, here is the play by play of the UTSA game for Texas on offense 

Pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, INT, run, pass, run, pass, pass, run, pass, run, run, pass, run, pass, run, pass,  Quinn goes down and leaves the game. 

 

 

 

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56 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Absolutely coaching malpractice by Sark if true.

I know a lawyer who specializes in coaching malpractice.  I'll PM you his contact info.  Pretty sure he takes cases on contingency.

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2 minutes ago, The_Great_Hornsby said:

THEN WE SHOULDVE BEEN STARTING MANNING, WE FUCKING PISSED AWAY A CHAMPIONSHIP

Manning plays like a rookie one week and we drop a game, we don’t make the playoffs. Sark is murdered for having a semi final QB on the bench. 

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Just now, ChickenSandwich said:

Manning plays like a rookie one week and we drop a game, we don’t make the playoffs. Sark is murdered for having a semi final QB on the bench. 

We wouldve made the playoffs with 3 losses. So Manning had plenty of slack. 

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5 minutes ago, ChickenSandwich said:

Manning plays like a rookie one week and we drop a game, we don’t make the playoffs. Sark is murdered for having a semi final QB on the bench. 

This is likely the truth. As I said before, Sark made this decision out of fear. 

Not many people have Saban's cojones.

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6 minutes ago, ChickenSandwich said:

We lose to Aggy on the road we still make the playoffs?  Vandy?

Yes, we wouldve still made it. That wouldve been a 2 loss Texas since our second loss was in the SEC championship game. And Manning wouldve been an upgrade in every category over a gimpy Ewers. 

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1 minute ago, Josef Pwag said:

This is likely the truth. As I said before, Sark made this decision out of fear. 

Not many people have Saban's cojones.

No, he did it out of loyalty. Not every coach has Saban's ability to step over a player having a heat stroke on the ground. 

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Just now, The_Great_Hornsby said:

Yes, we wouldve still made it. That wouldve been a 2 loss Texas since our second loss was in the SEC championship game. And Ewers wouldve been an upgrade in every category over a gimpy Ewers. 

And with real prep likely doesn't lose to Georgia (twice) whos kryptonite is a running/mobile QB. 

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10 minutes ago, ChickenSandwich said:

Manning plays better every week and we win games, we win the SEC, make the playoffs, win a national championship. Sark is praised for having a semi final QB on the bench. 

FIFY.

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The season played out the way it should have. It's a really weak case to try and say Arch should have been the starter from week 4 on. It borders on the absurd and would have created a clusterfuck. We were a couple plays away from playing in the national championship, just like the year before. Quin was a very good college QB who had the knowledge needed in Sark's offense to win us the national championship 2 years in a row. What he lacked was greatness. And to win it all, more often than not, you need greatness. It's one of the reasons we came up short both years.

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5 minutes ago, UTGrad98 said:

The season played out the way it should have. It's a really weak case to try and say Arch should have been the starter from week 4 on. It borders on the absurd and would have created a clusterfuck. We were a couple plays away from playing in the national championship, just like the year before. Quin was a very good college QB who had the knowledge needed in Sark's offense to win us the national championship 2 years in a row. What he lacked was greatness. And to win it all, more often than not, you need greatness. It's one of the reasons we came up short both years.

Manning shouldve been the starter once it became apparent that Ewers was limited and never getting back to 100% and was holding the team back. For most people, it was obvious in the first Georgia game and he shouldve been benched at that point. However, after the Arkansas debacle, it was beyond apparent that Ewers was a giant anchor holding down our team. Manning wouldve likely delivered a title to this team this year. And you know why that is? Because the defense was one of the best defenses in college football history, Manning didnt even need to be that good for us to win a title. He just had to make a few plays with his feet and the defense wouldve done the rest. 

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17 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Belichick should have definitely put Bledsoe back at starter after his injury instead of letting Tom Brady play!

So we should have let a QB with 0 college football starts coming from a 2A high school lead our  team with one of the greatest defenses in Texas history instead of the guy who just came off a Michigan clinic the week before and a national semi final appearance where we were 1 throw from playing in a national championship the year before? You would have made that move in the moment, back in Sept? That's ridiculous. Of course its easy to try and say that now, after its all over.

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In the video he's asked if it was a full or partial tear of the oblique, and Quinn said it was labeled as a sprain but felt worse. And that he hurt it on Monday after Michigan and it got worse throughout the week.
 
BTW, here is the play by play of the UTSA game for Texas on offense 
Pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, INT, run, pass, run, pass, pass, run, pass, run, run, pass, run, pass, run, pass,  Quinn goes down and leaves the game. 
 
 
 

Nice “recap” of the play sheet vs UTSA. I always thought he strained it rolling out to the left for a throw. If I remember right, he lofted one to a RB swinging to the right on the next play and then went to the sideline in pain. Scenarios of course could be different, but that’s what’s in my memory bank.

Kind of like Arch getting concussed during the OSU game when he ran for a 1st and they “reviewed” it for a possible fumble. The first replay I knew they were looking at the wrong thing/foul, as Targeting should’ve been called. They can call that penalty upon review from the booth/networks officials. Arch staggered when getting up and never touched the field again. Just my opinion, but I’m good with that.

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Just now, UTGrad98 said:

So we should have let a QB with 0 college football starts coming from a 2A high school lead our  team with one of the greatest defenses in Texas history instead of the guy who just came off a Michigan clinic the week before and a national semi final appearance where we were 1 throw from playing in a national championship the year before? You would have made that move in the moment, back in Sept? That's ridiculous. Of course its easy to try and say that now, after its all over.

Well technically he was 2-0 and we were talking about after Quinn had missed games. So nice try.

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1 minute ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Well technically he was 2-0 and we were talking about after Quinn had missed games. So nice try.

Against Miss State, who went winless in the SEC and finished last, and a directional school...with OU coming up next and all the expectations this team had at that time. Again, absurd to make that move in the moment with a freshman QB who had seen next to nothing in terms of defenses at the college level coming up against the meat of our schedule.

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2 minutes ago, UTGrad98 said:

Against Miss State, who went winless in the SEC and finished last, and a directional school...with OU coming up next

. . . after a bye week

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3 minutes ago, UTGrad98 said:

Against Miss State, who went winless in the SEC and finished last, and a directional school...with OU coming up next and all the expectations this team had at that time. Again, absurd to make that move in the moment with a freshman QB who had seen next to nothing in terms of defenses at the college level coming up against the meat of our schedule.

Lol it wasnt absurd at all. Ewers played like complete ass against OU and against UGA. Then proceeded to play like ass against Vandy, Arkansas, aggy, and UGA part 2. What the fuck were we waiting for? Ewers was clearly out of his depth. 

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15 minutes ago, msucolt45 said:


Nice “recap” of the play sheet vs UTSA. I always thought he strained it rolling out to the left for a throw. If I remember right, he lofted one to a RB swinging to the right on the next play and then went to the sideline in pain. Scenarios of course could be different, but that’s what’s in my memory bank.
 

I remember a pass (maybe a screen?) where it looked like Quinn got clocked by a defender but the camera was panning to the ball/receiver as it was happening. It felt like 5-6 plays later he went down. 

 

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13 minutes ago, UTGrad98 said:

Against Miss State, who went winless in the SEC and finished last, and a directional school...with OU coming up next and all the expectations this team had at that time. Again, absurd to make that move in the moment with a freshman QB who had seen next to nothing in terms of defenses at the college level coming up against the meat of our schedule.

So you lied now you're moving goal post. Un fucking believable. 

5 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

I remember a pass (maybe a screen?) where it looked like Quinn got clocked by a defender but the camera was panning to the ball/receiver as it was happening. It felt like 5-6 plays later he went down. 

 

I thought it was the one where he made that weird ass pass and the defender wrapped his waist weird and twisted him. 

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28 minutes ago, The_Great_Hornsby said:

Lol it wasnt absurd at all. Ewers played like complete ass against OU and against UGA. Then proceeded to play like ass against Vandy, Arkansas, aggy, and UGA part 2. What the fuck were we waiting for? Ewers was clearly out of his depth. 

Georgia is the only game; you did not want to throw Arch in and Sark threw him in. Texas was going to playoffs with any solid QB. That may sound crazy, but Texas won 1 game in the regular season where the defense gave up 20 or more. 

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24 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

Georgia is the only game; you did not want to throw Arch in and Sark threw him in. Texas was going to playoffs with any solid QB. That may sound crazy, but Texas won 1 game in the regular season where the defense gave up 20 or more. 

And that game was a garbage time touchdown for Vandy after we had a game ending pick 6 wiped off the board. 

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1 hour ago, UTGrad98 said:

national championship, just like the year before.

this is the exact reason we should have benched QE for Arch. there is not another position on the field where a player can perform as consistently poorly a QE did without losing his job. we made the playoffs *despite* QE and his absolute inability to move the chains, forget about scoring the ball. we made the playoffs despite struggling mightily to move the ball and score against georgia, vandy, arkansas, kentucky, a&m, georgia again, and finally, ohio state. quinn was also hot garbage vs arizona state, and had bert auburn hit a chip shot FG then QE never gets those two OT tds ends that game/his college career on an absolute downward spiral.

you guys keep making the exact argument as to why Arch should have played and you don’t even realize it. QE made everything harder for both his own offense and defense. he clearly, empirically inferior to Arch Manning in almost everything required of a winning QB. the more he started, the more he proved this. sark had a whole lot going on that led to his decision to stick with quinn,  it quinn being better than arch wasn’t on that list.

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39 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Quinn's best game post injury in the regular season was vs a depleted Florida team.

and 80-85% of his passing yards that day were YAC yards. quinn’s absolute inability to hit wr’s downfield is going to make matthew golden a ton of money. nobody (from Texas) benefitted more from QE’s struggles than Golden who took full advantage of catching all of those short passes and taking them 20, 30, 40 more yards downfield. the box score from that day looks great for quinn, but the tape is nothing but short, one-read throws after which his pass catchers gained chunks of yards on their own.

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so quinn gets hurt all of the time, and whenever he returns from injury he plays like he’s scared to death to get hit again. that’s on top of him just not being a good qb in any aspect of the position- passing, running, reading defenses, making plays with your feet, etc. the fact that this guy is going to get drafted at all makes no sense to me. who in the hell would look at his body of work, to wit: terrible decision to leave HS early, run off from tOSU, shows up at Texas fat and unkempt, plays poor-mediocre football while getting injured all of the time- and think, “yeah, my nfl football team needs to draft that guy”?

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1 hour ago, The_Great_Hornsby said:

Lol it wasnt absurd at all. Ewers played like complete ass against OU and against UGA. Then proceeded to play like ass against Vandy, Arkansas, aggy, and UGA part 2. What the fuck were we waiting for? Ewers was clearly out of his depth. 

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he should have transferred, made some more nil $$$ and improved his nfl stock

he got some horrible horrible advice 

 

i hope im wrong about this 

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39 minutes ago, Derka said:

so quinn gets hurt all of the time, and whenever he returns from injury he plays like he’s scared to death to get hit again. that’s on top of him just not being a good qb in any aspect of the position- passing, running, reading defenses, making plays with your feet, etc. the fact that this guy is going to get drafted at all makes no sense to me. who in the hell would look at his body of work, to wit: terrible decision to leave HS early, run off from tOSU, shows up at Texas fat and unkempt, plays poor-mediocre football while getting injured all of the time- and think, “yeah, my nfl football team needs to draft that guy”?

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7 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

he should if transferred, made some more nil $$$ and improved his nfl stock

he got some horrible horrible advice 

You know he's already made a fortune, yeah? Somehow I think he will be okay.  

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27 minutes ago, TreatyOak said:

You know he's already made a fortune, yeah? Somehow I think he will be okay.  

Yea he has dough but I still agree with 3 putt. Also hope I’m wrong. 

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1 hour ago, The_Great_Hornsby said:

And that game was a garbage time touchdown for Vandy after we had a game ending pick 6 wiped off the board. 

1 or 2 seconds left on the clock.  Not a close game.

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55 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

he should have transferred, made some more nil $$$ and improved his nfl stock

he got some horrible horrible advice 

 

i hope im wrong about this 

Counterpoint: He was injured for parts of the last two seasons. If it happened next season maybe he doesn’t get drafted at all. 

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