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34 minutes ago, Foosters said:

Damn, I've never had co-counsel on a single trial. The best is when you get to leave your client alone at the table while you go into chambers for a sidebar. I've come back several times to have the bailiff whisper in my ear that my client was doing some weird shit by himself while the jurors just watched in silence.

Sorry for partying counselor.  

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1 hour ago, Gatorubet said:

It is somewhat rare, but I was involved in one trial when the defendant knew that the jury was going to find against them, so they spent their entire case making points for an appellate court challenge on the legal elements down the road - and NOT for jury consideration.   They did not care if the jury got what they were saying. 

That may be the case here.

Sounds like, though, Bove is attacking credibility more than anything, as well as trying to make the testimony fit their narrative (SOP). I don't think they're going to get very far on appeal with those issues. 

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1 hour ago, Dahobbs said:

That's rough. Even if I don't have co-counsel, I try to have a legal assistant, secretary, or even a tech, anyone, sit by the client. 

Agree that that is tough to the point of brutal. Lone rangering litigation, especially trial, is tough tough.  Respek. 

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Strange tack to me to try and say that a media outlet doing something for a political candidate that is against their own business interests is SOP.  Paying for stories, whether to run them or bury them, may be SOP.  But certainly not knowingly to your own detriment. 
 

The idea that if some part of something is SOP then it all must be…doesn’t pass muster.   I would love to see an FDA inspector’s face when someone says that to them (not me or someone at my place of employment). 

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Posted (edited)

Joshua Steinglass, the prosecutor, asks David Pecker if prosecutors have tried to influence his testimony. “Absolutely not,” Pecker says. Then, after prompting Pecker to say that prosecutors had only told him to tell the truth, Steinglass concludes his redirect.


When Pecker said this, Trump chuckled and shook his head.

 

Joshua Steinglass, the prosecutor, is reading back to David Pecker portions of his testimony from yesterday that Emil Bove, the Trump lawyer, sought to raise questions about earlier. The testimony relates to Pecker saying Trump thanked him for killing stories about Karen McDougal and the ultimately uncorroborated story about a child conceived out of wedlock during their meeting on Jan. 6, 2017.


Steinglass promised Pecker that he wouldn’t be on the stand much longer, and it’s clear he is moving quickly this afternoon.

 

 

David Pecker, the former publisher of the National Enquirer, is returning to the witness stand, possibly for the last time. As a reminder, this is now his fourth day of testimony.

 

Donald J. Trump is back in the courtroom after the lunch break, his hair looking a bit windswept. He’s trailed by his lawyers. The afternoon session will start soon. Notably, I don’t remember having seen the Manhattan district attorney, Alvin Bragg, in the courtroom yesterday or today.


Trump’s legal adviser, Boris Epshteyn, is in the second row. A corrective note: I pointed out Epshteyn’s cell phone use yesterday. He’s sitting in the rows reserved for lawyers for either party, so the ban on cell phone use in the well of the court does not apply to him, and he is allowed to have his.

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Interesting that in this heavily guarded, prison like courthouse, he's still able to tweet and do a press conference.

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Posted
16 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

Did the judge ever make a ruling on the contempt thing or did they basically waste a day for nothing?

it was taken under advisement… specifically to piss you off

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On 4/25/2024 at 12:26 PM, Smax said:

 

Had a girlfriend of mine who was one of Playboys Houston area rep in the mid 90s early 00 and I met her a few times at events, she is one the hottest woman I've ever met

one of my wife's best friends did multiple shots for Playboy back in the '90's.  she's hot but she ain't my wife's level of hot.  but still...pretty cool that i know her.

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Posted (edited)


New witness---Rhona Graff

 

 

Rhona Graff is now done testifying. Trump stands as Graff is leaving and approaches her, touching her hand. The judge, Juan Merchan, is standing too, waiting for the lawyers to come to the bench. Given all the focus on witnesses and Trump interacting with them, that was a striking moment. The court is taking a brief recess.

 

Susan Necheles, Trump's lawyer, just asked Graff a clever question: Whether she wants to be here or not. Graff says she does not, and indicates that the only reason she’s testifying is because the Trump Organization is paying her legal fees.

 

 

Rhona Graff is testifying adoringly upon cross-examination about the success of “The Apprentice,” calling it THE most popular television show and saying that Trump had acquired “rock-star status.” This was typical in the trial of Trump's company in 2022: Many of his former employees remain quite fond of their old boss, and seem happy to sing his praises.

In the past few minutes, we again heard the name of Hope Hicks, Trump’s spokeswoman during the 2016 campaign and in the White House. There was not, to my ear, a key reason to reintroduce Hicks, so it may be that prosecutors are seeking to set her up as a key witness.

 

Susan Hoffinger, the prosecutor, wraps up. Susan Necheles is now cross-examining Rhona Graff for the defense.


Trump cracks a small smile as Graff speaks glowingly of her time working for Trump. She says she never had the same day twice and called Trump “fair” as a boss.

 

We are now looking at a redacted entry from the Trump Organization's computer system that contains contact information for Karen McDougal and “Stormy.”

 

Susan Hoffinger, the prosecutor, is asking Graff to verify that she compiled records of various items like emails, contact lists and calendar entries.

Graff says her lawyers are being paid by the Trump Organization. This is a running theme with some witnesses close to Trump — he or his political-action committee have continued to pay their legal fees. Michael Cohen flipped on Trump, partly because the Trump Organization stopped paying his legal fees.

Graff is a witness covering her time working for the Trump Organization. It is common for companies to pay the legal fees of people dragged into litigation related to their employment, though people may also hire independent counsel.

Rhona Graff says she worked at the Trump Organization for 34 years. Her understanding was that Donald Trump owned the company and she worked directly for him.

 

Susan Hoffinger, the head of the district attorney’s investigations division, will question Graff, who is the second witness. Graff was Trump’s former assistant at the Trump Organization. Hoffinger, along with Joshua Steinglass, led the team that convicted Trump’s company two years ago.


Graff was Trump’s primary gatekeeper for many, many years.

 

“The people call Rhona Graff,” per Susan Hoffinger, one of the proecutors.

 

David Pecker is now off the stand.

 

It’s worth reiterating, as Emil Bove continues with re-cross-examination, that we have no idea how the jury is processing what they’re hearing from either the prosecution or the defense. These jurors have been quite stone-faced throughout. And trials exist for a reason: we don’t know the result until it’s done.

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23 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:


New witness---Rhona Graff

 

Rhona Graff is testifying adoringly upon cross-examination about the success of “The Apprentice,” calling it THE most popular television show and saying that Trump had acquired “rock-star status.” This was typical in the trial of Trump's company in 2022: Many of his former employees remain quite fond of their old boss, and seem happy to sing his praises.

In the past few minutes, we again heard the name of Hope Hicks, Trump’s spokeswoman during the 2016 campaign and in the White House. There was not, to my ear, a key reason to reintroduce Hicks, so it may be that prosecutors are seeking to set her up as a key witness.

 

Susan Hoffinger, the prosecutor, wraps up. Susan Necheles is now cross-examining Rhona Graff for the defense.


Trump cracks a small smile as Graff speaks glowingly of her time working for Trump. She says she never had the same day twice and called Trump “fair” as a boss.

 

We are now looking at a redacted entry from the Trump Organization's computer system that contains contact information for Karen McDougal and “Stormy.”

 

Susan Hoffinger, the prosecutor, is asking Graff to verify that she compiled records of various items like emails, contact lists and calendar entries.

Graff says her lawyers are being paid by the Trump Organization. This is a running theme with some witnesses close to Trump — he or his political-action committee have continued to pay their legal fees. Michael Cohen flipped on Trump, partly because the Trump Organization stopped paying his legal fees.

Graff is a witness covering her time working for the Trump Organization. It is common for companies to pay the legal fees of people dragged into litigation related to their employment, though people may also hire independent counsel.

Rhona Graff says she worked at the Trump Organization for 34 years. Her understanding was that Donald Trump owned the company and she worked directly for him.

 

Susan Hoffinger, the head of the district attorney’s investigations division, will question Graff, who is the second witness. Graff was Trump’s former assistant at the Trump Organization. Hoffinger, along with Joshua Steinglass, led the team that convicted Trump’s company two years ago.


Graff was Trump’s primary gatekeeper for many, many years.

 

“The people call Rhona Graff,” per Susan Hoffinger, one of the proecutors.

 

David Pecker is now off the stand.

 

It’s worth reiterating, as Emil Bove continues with re-cross-examination, that we have no idea how the jury is processing what they’re hearing from either the prosecution or the defense. These jurors have been quite stone-faced throughout. And trials exist for a reason: we don’t know the result until it’s done.

So tell me why Rhona Graff was called by the prosecution for a brief time on the stand and is now speaking glowingly of her former boss?

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1 hour ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Strange tack to me to try and say that a media outlet doing something for a political candidate that is against their own business interests is SOP.  Paying for stories, whether to run them or bury them, may be SOP.  But certainly not knowingly to your own detriment. 
 

The idea that if some part of something is SOP then it all must be…doesn’t pass muster.   I would love to see an FDA inspector’s face when someone says that to them (not me or someone at my place of employment). 

We all know your bacon doesn’t pass muster

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Posted
1 hour ago, YGIFS said:

Is ‘two minutes’ the new ‘two weeks!’ ???

I'm having major work done on my house today so this comment really hits close to home.

1 hour ago, Brisketexan said:


I attacked my pecker quite a bit back in the day…

Still do, but you used to, too.

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41 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

 

Poor whiny grandpa...

You know, this is how Trump thinks: 

"The courtroom is freezing to make ME uncomfortable" rather than "The courtroom is freezing.  I'm not the only uncomfortable" 

Its always about meeeee

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Posted (edited)

New witness--Gary Farro

 

Donald Trump’s motorcade left 100 Centre Street at 4:42 pm. A few dozen gawkers, including a small gaggle of conspicuous Trump supporters waving four large flags, strained in vain for a glimpse of the former president. Through the afternoon, those demonstrators traded chants of “We Love Trump” with another group of protesters, who yelled back, “Lock Him Up.”

 

Court will not be in session on Monday. We will be back Tuesday morning.

 

 

And now we're adjourned for the day. Trump looks utterly spent as he rises at the end of the long first week of testimony in his criminal trial. As he passes reporters, he grimaces, then glares, putting on a braver face as he leaves the courtroom.

The defense has already told the jurors that Michael Cohen is a liar who is out to get his revenge on Trump. But the witnesses have painted a slightly different portrait — of a very anxious, harried man, who, while he still worked for Trump, would do whatever he could for his boss. “Every time Michael Cohen spoke to me, he gave me a sense of urgency,” Gary Farro just said.

This material is dry but the prosecutor, Rebecca Mangold, is questioning Gary Farro slowly and deliberately. Farro said that Michael Cohen was eager to connect with him and wanted to open a limited liability company immediately. Farro then took steps to open an account for him and specified with his team that Cohen didn’t want addresses on the checks.

Trump is leaning forward, reading an email that is being read into evidence about Gary Farro missing a call from Michael Cohen.

 

Enter Michael Cohen, Trump's former fixer. “Do you know someone named Michael Cohen,” Rebecca Mangold, the prosecutor, asks. “Yes I do,” Farro answered. His knowledge of Cohen, who was assigned to him as a client, is the reason he’s here, of course.


For those familiar with Cohen, Farro is making a number of telling statements. He says that he was thought of as someone who was good at working with “individuals who may be a little challenging,” though he says he didn’t find Cohen “difficult.” He also comments on Cohen’s apparent excitement to be working for Trump.

After the first two witnesses testified about Trump’s personal behavior, we’re getting a dry recitation of banking transactions now, a reminder of what this trial’s charges relate to.

 

First Republic Bank, Gary Farro reminds the jurors, no longer exists. It was seized and sold by regulators last year, one of several banks that were the casualties of bank runs after interest rate hikes. Farro, colorfully, referred to this as “last year’s demise.”

Rebecca Mangold will question Gary Farro for the prosecution. She has been on the team for several years, and she typically sits with Christopher Conroy, another prosecutor, behind the main table. This may be the first time I’ve heard her speak in court.

Justice Merchan is back on the bench. Prosecutors call Gary Farro to the stand as the third witness.


Farro was a banker at First Republic when Michael Cohen was seeking to arrange the $130,000 payment to Stormy Daniels. Cohen, seeking to get the money together, was contacted by Farro’s assistant at First Republic Bank


Prosecutors forgot something very important — the jury. They will have to call Farro again once the jurors enter. It’s Friday afternoon, all right.

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22 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

New witness--Gary Farro

 

 

First Republic Bank, Gary Farro reminds the jurors, no longer exists.

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Prosecutors forgot something very important — the jury. They will have to call Farro again once the jurors enter. It’s Friday afternoon, all right.

Farro reminded the jurors but the jury box was empty? Very confusing that no one noticed that jurors were not in attendance.

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2 hours ago, Kyrie Eleison said:

one of my wife's best friends did multiple shots for Playboy back in the '90's.  she's hot but she ain't my wife's level of hot.  but still...pretty cool that i know her.

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2 hours ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

New witness--Gary Farro

 

Donald Trump’s motorcade left 100 Centre Street at 4:42 pm. A few dozen gawkers, including a small gaggle of conspicuous Trump supporters waving four large flags, strained in vain for a glimpse of the former president. Through the afternoon, those demonstrators traded chants of “We Love Trump” with another group of protesters, who yelled back, “Lock Him Up.”

 

Court will not be in session on Monday. We will be back Tuesday morning.

 

 

And now we're adjourned for the day. Trump looks utterly spent as he rises at the end of the long first week of testimony in his criminal trial. As he passes reporters, he grimaces, then glares, putting on a braver face as he leaves the courtroom.

The defense has already told the jurors that Michael Cohen is a liar who is out to get his revenge on Trump. But the witnesses have painted a slightly different portrait — of a very anxious, harried man, who, while he still worked for Trump, would do whatever he could for his boss. “Every time Michael Cohen spoke to me, he gave me a sense of urgency,” Gary Farro just said.

This material is dry but the prosecutor, Rebecca Mangold, is questioning Gary Farro slowly and deliberately. Farro said that Michael Cohen was eager to connect with him and wanted to open a limited liability company immediately. Farro then took steps to open an account for him and specified with his team that Cohen didn’t want addresses on the checks.

Trump is leaning forward, reading an email that is being read into evidence about Gary Farro missing a call from Michael Cohen.

 

Enter Michael Cohen, Trump's former fixer. “Do you know someone named Michael Cohen,” Rebecca Mangold, the prosecutor, asks. “Yes I do,” Farro answered. His knowledge of Cohen, who was assigned to him as a client, is the reason he’s here, of course.


For those familiar with Cohen, Farro is making a number of telling statements. He says that he was thought of as someone who was good at working with “individuals who may be a little challenging,” though he says he didn’t find Cohen “difficult.” He also comments on Cohen’s apparent excitement to be working for Trump.

After the first two witnesses testified about Trump’s personal behavior, we’re getting a dry recitation of banking transactions now, a reminder of what this trial’s charges relate to.

 

First Republic Bank, Gary Farro reminds the jurors, no longer exists. It was seized and sold by regulators last year, one of several banks that were the casualties of bank runs after interest rate hikes. Farro, colorfully, referred to this as “last year’s demise.”

Rebecca Mangold will question Gary Farro for the prosecution. She has been on the team for several years, and she typically sits with Christopher Conroy, another prosecutor, behind the main table. This may be the first time I’ve heard her speak in court.

Justice Merchan is back on the bench. Prosecutors call Gary Farro to the stand as the third witness.


Farro was a banker at First Republic when Michael Cohen was seeking to arrange the $130,000 payment to Stormy Daniels. Cohen, seeking to get the money together, was contacted by Farro’s assistant at First Republic Bank


Prosecutors forgot something very important — the jury. They will have to call Farro again once the jurors enter. It’s Friday afternoon, all right.

It looks like your updates are now going in reverse chronological order. Or I'm having a stroke. 

Regardless, thank you for the continued updates.

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42 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

So no ruling, waste of time.

Got it.

it is sort of astonishing. All of us in the legal community know we work at your pleasure and on your timeline.

I will tell those who need to know to make sure the judge only gets a half scoop of gruel tonight.

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42 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

it is sort of astonishing. All of us in the legal community know we work at your pleasure and on your timeline.

I will tell those who need to know to make sure the judge only gets a half scoop of gruel tonight.

Yours is the only profession that can drag something like the contempt thing out for days.  Any other profession, you’re getting run off for milking it this much.

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I am not a Trump supporter and there is no way in hell I will vote for Biden. It makes me sad that these two seem to be the best this country has to offer.

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3 minutes ago, B1G said:

I am not a Trump supporter and there is no way in hell I will vote for Biden. It makes me sad that these two seem to be the best this country has to offer.

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2 hours ago, Gatorubet said:

it is sort of astonishing. All of us in the legal community know we work at your pleasure and on your timeline.

I will tell those who need to know to make sure the judge only gets a half scoop of gruel tonight.

Thank you!  Please also ensure that it is the extra watery gruel, as our vexation is quite great.

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26 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

Yours is the only profession that can drag something like the contempt thing out for days.  Any other profession, you’re getting run off for milking it this much.

it is not milking it. They continue to collect gag order violations and submit them.   The judge does not want the jurors or his staff attacked by Trump cretins.  The judge wants to have enough hard, empirical evidence that he won’t be reversed and give Trump a win.  and the judge is probably overthinking it, but since Trump wants to be held in contempt, the judge is trying to figure out the best way to handle it so it’s not in Trump’s benefit.    As has been said numerous times, contempt sanctions are usually incremental.  so let the judge do what is best for the safety of the jurors and the staff, and for the legitimacy of the verdict when it comes, and for the judges reputation by having whatever hammer may come be a sanction that sticks. All of those things may not lead to immediate justice. But immediate justice needs finessing when the person you want to sanction wants you to sanction him.  

I have been impressed with this judge and the way he has handled his courtroom do far, and I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt for now.

 

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3 minutes ago, SubliminalHorn said:

Yeah why don’t you sit it out and not worry about it. Must be nice to have such privilege 

If I sit it out I will not be licensed to batch, my opinion will mean nothing 

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Never said that, I may have to sit this one out and not bitch or cry for four years
By not voting, you are making a choice. Getty Lee/ shivers/ said something about that.

"Well I sat out elections when Hitler was consolidating power".

I'm a dense mofo, but wake up my man.
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2 minutes ago, Born to Run said:
52 minutes ago, B1G said:
You want me to write in Mackey mouse? No way in he'll I will vote for Trump or Biden.

Guessing Mackey Mouse is thick and latina?

God damn this is good

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