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5 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

Well, I mean....if Biden truly is as addled as y'all say he is, couldn't you just say "So, Joe...to follow-up on your commitment yesterday to drop out of the race and let Kamala take your slot"

"Wait?  I committed to drop out yesterday?"

"Well, yes.  Right after lunch.  We were talking, you had just enjoyed your soft sandwich and Ensure, and you said 'I feel it is my patriotic duty to drop out.'  Sir, the whole team has been talking since then about how much we admire your bravery and commitment to America.  I just wanted to follow up on how we should draft the formal statement to release to the press.  What do you think about this version [pushes document across the table to him]."

If he's as out of it as y'all say, he'll say "oh, yes....of course.  Yes, that's my duty.  Let me look over this statement."

Literally ran this play on my mom at one point. Old age is hell.

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17 minutes ago, Bateshorn said:

Literally ran this play on my mom at one point. Old age is hell.

 

I liked how this board is mostly Gen Xers and can see our old, deranged parents in both of these candidates.

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Biden Called ‘More Receptive’ to Hearing Pleas to Step Aside

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President Biden has become more receptive in the last several days to hearing arguments about why he should drop his re-election bid, Democrats briefed on his conversations said on Wednesday, after his party’s two top leaders in Congress privately told him they were deeply concerned about his prospects.

Mr. Biden has not given any indication that he is changing his mind about staying in the race, the Democrats said, but has been willing to listen to rundowns of new and worrying polling data and has asked questions about how Vice President Kamala Harris could win.

The accounts suggest that Mr. Biden, privately at least, is striking a more open-minded posture than he did last week when he lashed out at a number of House Democrats who pressed him to step aside.

One person close to the president said that it would be wrong to call him receptive to the idea of dropping out but that he “is willing to listen.” But this person emphasized there was no sign that Mr. Biden was changing course at this point.

The descriptions emerged after Senator Chuck Schumer and Representative Hakeem Jeffries, the two top Democrats in Congress, each told Mr. Biden privately over the past week that their members were deeply concerned about his chances in November and the fates of House and Senate candidates should he remain at the top of the ticket, according to two people briefed on the conversations.

The White House suggested that Mr. Biden was unmoved by their discussions.

“The president told both leaders he is the nominee of the party, he plans to win and looks forward to working with both of them to pass his 100 days agenda to help working families,” said Andrew Bates, a White House spokesman.

The separate exchanges between Mr. Biden and the congressional leaders, described on the condition of anonymity because they were confidential discussions on an exceedingly sensitive topic, came to light as Democrats’ rebellion against Mr. Biden intensified on Wednesday.

Mr. Schumer and Mr. Jeffries, both of New York, privately prevailed upon party officials to delay the start of Mr. Biden’s nomination by a week, prolonging the debate over the viability of his candidacy.

Representative Adam B. Schiff of California became the highest-profile Democratic lawmaker to call on Mr. Biden to end his run. And Jeffrey Katzenberg, a co-chairman of the Biden campaign, told the president that donors had stopped giving to his campaign, according to a person with knowledge of the exchange.

 

Posted
1 minute ago, chainsaw said:

At this rate he will be livid if he hasn't been kicked off the ticket by Saturday

"How come nobody's tried to assassinate me?"

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https://www.threads.net/@semafor/post/C9i6Xq_M807

That's basically Democratic leadership outside Biden and Harris:

  • Senate Majority Leader Schumer
  • House Minority Leader Jeffries
  • Fmr House Majority Leader Pelosi

 

Others asking Biden to step down:

  • Adam Schiff-CA
  • Brittany Pettersen-CO
  • Mike Levin-CA
  • Jim Himes-CT
  • Scott Peters-CA
  • Eric Sorensen-IL
  • Greg Stanton-AZ
  • Adam Smith-WA
  • Ed Case-HI
  • Brad Schneider-IL
  • Hillary Scholton-MI
  • Earl Blumenauer-OR
  • Pat Ryan-NY
  • Mikie Sherrill-NJ
  • Peter Welch-VT
  • Angie Craig-MN
  • Mike Quigley-IL
  • Seth Moulton-MA
  • Raul Grijalva-AZ
  • Lloyd Doggett-TX
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Posted

Figure it's going to happen at this point.  I'm still not sure it's good or bad election-wise assuming it's Harris.  If I had to pick my candidate, given the importance of Pennsylvania and the relative good standing the state has for Shapiro, I'd just run him and VP Harris but I don't think she'd go for it.  4 months is enough time for Shapiro to become known and he's a pretty good public speaker and policy-wise he's pretty centrist and would be palatable to undecideds and double haters.

But it'll be Harris.  She brings some good things and some bad.  What is the net effect in the few states that matter we'll see.

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Posted
5 minutes ago, mchookem said:

man..he should be defensive. he's done a damn good job, likely one of the best in my lifetime, he literally saved this country by prying it from the dirty grasp of a destructive evil chaos agent and his cartoon character minions, he restored/repaired America's reputation around the world, not to mention helped get us through the pandemic and the aftermath.

i'm not saying he shouldn't step down, im certainly not advocating he's our only chance to win this time and save our democracy. stepping down very well may be the right move, wtf do i know...i'm just reacting to the characterization of him, it makes me feel bad given he is the only one that could have saved us in 2020, and he did, and he's done it very, very well. i would be defensive too.

man just fuck this gotdamn timeline. Joe's a good man and he's been a damn good president. hmpf.

My sentiments are similar, and I'm quite conflicted about the whole situation. On the one hand, "You dance with the one who brung you." On the other, this isn't just about Joe or his feelings. This is about the state of democracy, the future of this country, and the well-being of the West and the entire planet. I know it sounds hyperbolic to a lot of ears, but them's the stakes. 

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Posted
6 hours ago, Pam Cummings said:

Is it just me or does Trump seem weird since the shooting? I know it would scare any normal person. He has his normal act that he does and looking at his face it seems like he can't do the act right now.

It’s his new act. He’s acting humble and then will rise like a fat phoenix tomorrow then do the jerk off dance. 

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6 hours ago, Old Freak Nasty said:

If I had to pick my candidate, given the importance of Pennsylvania and the relative good standing the state has for Shapiro, I'd just run him and VP Harris but I don't think she'd go for it.

Why not VP Shapiro to back Harris? Why should Harris play 2nd fiddle to a relatively unknown governor?

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6 hours ago, Old Freak Nasty said:

Figure it's going to happen at this point.  I'm still not sure it's good or bad election-wise assuming it's Harris.  If I had to pick my candidate, given the importance of Pennsylvania and the relative good standing the state has for Shapiro, I'd just run him and VP Harris but I don't think she'd go for it.  4 months is enough time for Shapiro to become known and he's a pretty good public speaker and policy-wise he's pretty centrist and would be palatable to undecideds and double haters.

But it'll be Harris.  She brings some good things and some bad.  What is the net effect in the few states that matter we'll see.

Harris/Shapiro is getting really popular on the socials

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Posted
12 minutes ago, WhatTheBuck said:

Why not VP Shapiro to back Harris? Why should Harris play 2nd fiddle to a relatively unknown governor?


Contrasts. 
 

If Trump is the machismo candidate that is winning over young men, men of color, and boomer white dusters…. Why go with a woman of color. Seems to be playing into a trap.

Best ticket to beat Trump IMO is Newsom with Warnock. 
I have no polling to back this up however.

Kamila would have to publicly sign off on it though. I assume there would have to be a backroom deal on making her a Justice on SCOTUS or the AG for her to ok it bc you’ll need her out there hammering abortion talking pts. I think she’s likely the best surrogate to prosecute reason 1,567,359 that another Trump presidency is not ideal.

Posted
46 minutes ago, Pancho said:

Harris/Shapiro is getting really popular on the socials

Sign me up right now 

Posted
24 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

If Biden steps aside it’s Harris. I really don’t know why any of y'all still think it could be anybody else. We’ve had candidates picked by democratic primaries for the last 50+ years. Throwing all the votes away to let some big donors select their own preferred candidate, when we’re in an election to save American democracy, would be an insane thing to do.

But you know why they keep saying it 

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Posted
1 hour ago, Pancho said:

Harris/Shapiro is getting really popular on the socials

Her husband is Jewish.  Shapiro is Jewish.

Right wing MAGA Twitter would be off the charts.

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1 minute ago, Aqua Buddha said:

Her husband is Jewish.  Shapiro is Jewish.

Right wing MAGA Twitter would be off the charts.

They already are because JD Vance’s wife is brown and their kid is brown with a brown name lol

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Posted (edited)

Harris and a qualified VP from a swing state probably has the best odds of actually happening and actually beating Trump.  That means a VP of Whitmer, Shapiro, Kelly, Evers, or Cooper.  I can’t think of a qualified VP candidate from Georgia.

It is just really hard for me to believe that this many prominent democrats would be coming out against Biden if it wasn’t a foregone conclusion that he won’t be the nominee.

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Posted (edited)
24 minutes ago, Snake Diggity said:

Harris and a qualified VP from a swing state probably has the best odds of actually happening and actually beating Trump.  That means a VP of Whitmer, Shapiro, Kelly, Evers, or Cooper.  I can’t think of a qualified VP candidate from Georgia.

It is just really hard for me to believe that this many prominent democrats would be coming out against Biden if it wasn’t a foregone conclusion that he won’t be the nominee.

Can't be another woman. If we're a country of moderates who lean misogynist, you have to put a man up there with Kamala as VP. Shapiro or Kelly makes the most sense. Shapiro is a good answer to Vance. Rust Belt governor of the single most important state in this election now. 

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Posted
11 minutes ago, mdmost said:

Can't be another woman. If we're a country of moderates who lean misogynist, you have to put a man up there with Kamala as VP. Shapiro or Kelly makes the most sense. Shapiro is a good answer to Vance. Rust Belt governor of the single most important state in this election now. 

Unfortunately, you are correct.  If Whitmer were a man, she'd be the 100% obvious choice.  30% (or more) of people's heads would explode if there were two women.

Shaprio is Jewish which won't matter to a wide number of people but the "GEORGE SOROS!!!!" crowd will be off the charts.

Kelly from Arizona is an excellent choice, IMO.

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20 minutes ago, mdmost said:

Can't be another woman. If we're a country of moderates who lean misogynist, you have to put a man up there with Kamala as VP. Shapiro or Kelly makes the most sense. Shapiro is a good answer to Vance. Rust Belt governor of the single most important state in this election now. 

Additionally, Pennsylvania Constitution states that the Lt. Gov. (also a Dem) would serve the rest of Shapiro's term.  Kelly's vacancy would result in a special election, which may be too risky given the current margins. 

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5 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

Additionally, Pennsylvania Constitution states that the Lt. Gov. (also a Dem) would serve the rest of Shapiro's term.  Kelly's vacancy would result in a special election, which may be too risky given the current margins. 

In 2026. Interim until then. But yeah

Posted
12 hours ago, Pancho said:

Or he resigns, Harris becomes 47, and then trunp and his team have to order new merch with 48 put on it which they can’t do because they are poor

I like the way you think.

Posted
3 minutes ago, SurlyGator said:

The comment under the meme is better than the meme.  Nutjobs abound on both sides.

I'm legit surprised on how half of America thinks the assassination attempt was staged and the other half thinks it was an inside job.  

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1 hour ago, WhatTheBuck said:

White man vs. white man is contrast?

I’m saying that Kamila is such a contrast.

Joe beat trump in 2020 by stealing enough of the white suburban folks and men IMO.

Maybe I’m wrong.

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Posted (edited)

My issue with Shapiro is he's smallish. I'm a bit with Trump on liking my Politicians to look like politicians, and that means some height in men. And I say that as a manlet.

Luckily Harris is short, as is JD Vance. 

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Posted
6 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Disagree- if there was ever an election to lean into the dignity of women as human beings with inalienable rights, this is it. We need the aunties, the tias, the meemaws, the Angela’s, the Beckies, the Karens, thots, prudes, e-girls, waifish art history majors who smoke cigarettes, instagram models, cleat chasers, mousey women who work for the state, we need all of them to vote and save America. Men are a lost cause at this point.

I halfway agree with you.  Swing for the fences.  Why not?  Make Roe V Wade the biggest issue, tout the economy, hammer on Trump's felony convictions.

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Posted
21 minutes ago, Aqua Buddha said:

I'm legit surprised on how half of America thinks the assassination attempt was staged and the other half thinks it was an inside job.  

What if it was unintentionally both? Would be a hell of a movie. 

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I'm too lazy to look, but if the D's end up nominating someone else, how often in our history have we had 3 different presidents elected in 3 consecutive elections? 

Posted
44 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

Additionally, Pennsylvania Constitution states that the Lt. Gov. (also a Dem) would serve the rest of Shapiro's term.  Kelly's vacancy would result in a special election, which may be too risky given the current margins. 

Yea, I think Kelly is too important where he is. How deep is the D bench in Az? Outside of Gallego, who's left that's popular enough statewide (or at least in the greater PHX area) to hold onto that seat? Katie Hobbs? Then who becomes gov? 

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Posted
11 minutes ago, Bateshorn said:

My issue with Shapiro is he's smallish. I'm a bit with Trump on liking my Politicians to look like politicians, and that means some height in men. And I say that as a manlet.

Luckily Harris is short, as is JD Vance. 

How tall are these people?  (We all know Trump is 6'3" and 215.)

Posted
1 minute ago, hookem2010 said:

I'm too lazy to look, but if the D's end up nominating someone else, how often in our history have we had 3 different presidents elected in 3 consecutive elections? 

In the 70's we went from Nixon to Ford to Carter but Ford wasn't elected so there's that.  I'd have to say somewhere in the first half of the 20th century or in the 1800's or some such.

Posted
2 minutes ago, hookem2010 said:

I'm too lazy to look, but if the D's end up nominating someone else, how often in our history have we had 3 different presidents elected in 3 consecutive elections? 

Barring death/assassination, Franklin Pierce, James Buchanan, Abraham Lincoln. 

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Just now, hookem2010 said:

I'm too lazy to look, but if the D's end up nominating someone else, how often in our history have we had 3 different presidents elected in 3 consecutive elections? 

Reagan-Bush-Clinton the most recent.  Not exactly the question you asked, but there were 7 different presidents in the 7 election cycles between 1956 and 1980.

Posted
15 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Disagree- if there was ever an election to lean into the dignity of women as human beings with inalienable rights, this is it. We need the aunties, the tias, the meemaws, the Angela’s, the Beckies, the Karens, thots, prudes, e-girls, waifish art history majors who smoke cigarettes, instagram models, cleat chasers, mousey women who work for the state, we need all of them to vote and save America. Men are a lost cause at this point.

We need 88 lines about 44 women (archetypes) 

 

 

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