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3 hours ago, ITHorn said:

The worst part about this is that you can't even consider cutting Dak until at least 2027 and even then it would be over 30 million in dead money. If you didn't give into his insane demands you could hope to tank and start over with someone on a rookie deal and spend the money elsewhere. We're probably looking at another few years at least of hoping to steal a WC bid only to get blown out before you can clean house and try again. Even that doesn't look great if JJ is the one calling shots on the rebuild.

 

 

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1 hour ago, DougO said:

Offensive line sucks.

Defensive line sucks.

Either Tolbert sucks or the coaching staff can't figure out how to use him properly while defenses are concentrating on Lamb. Doesn't seem all that complicated. Maybe partly both, but I think the scheming is the bigger problem. Even a schlub should get a few catches as the second wide out in a game like this.

GM definitely sucks. 

Niners were definitely beatable, about as beatable as they are ever going to see any time soon. Coaches suck.

 

So does ou

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Dak is a scapegoat.  The team flat out sucks.  They are below average at all position groups outside of linebacker and cornerback (if they were all healthy).  Dak and Lamb's contracts are easy to point at, but those 2 aren't why they are losing games.  2 players can't overcome a shitty roster in the NFL.  All of the hate should be directed at Jones.  It really is all his fault.

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5 hours ago, Deej said:

I don't know why people still watch them on television. 

We watched Hocus Pocus withe kids until 8 or so. Then I put the Cowboys game on and promptly feel asleep on the couch. Almost forgot to even check this score this morning. Got on espn.com to check what time the WS Series game started tonight, then remembered I didn't actually watch he game last night.

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8 hours ago, kevwun said:

Dak is a scapegoat.  The team flat out sucks.  They are below average at all position groups outside of linebacker and cornerback (if they were all healthy).  Dak and Lamb's contracts are easy to point at, but those 2 aren't why they are losing games.  2 players can't overcome a shitty roster in the NFL.  All of the hate should be directed at Jones.  It really is all his fault.

Oh please, Dak isn't a scapegoat.  He's absolutely part of the problem on the field.  His contract dictates he needs to play like a top 3 or 4 QB.  He's not even close to that.  But yes it is Jerry's fault for signing him to that contract since Dak wouldn't take less than everything he could and Jerry is too proud to let go of the QB he "found".  It was well within Dak's right to get everything he could and good for him. 

 

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On 10/28/2024 at 10:23 PM, dcar00 said:

Oh please, Dak isn't a scapegoat.  He's absolutely part of the problem on the field.  His contract dictates he needs to play like a top 3 or 4 QB.  He's not even close to that.  But yes it is Jerry's fault for signing him to that contract since Dak wouldn't take less than everything he could and Jerry is too proud to let go of the QB he "found".  It was well within Dak's right to get everything he could and good for him. 

 

Jerrah had the right to remain silent... just not the ability.

Tons of us said not to sign Dak at that price.  Fuck it...it's just money, and terrible QB play.

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On 10/28/2024 at 10:23 PM, dcar00 said:

Oh please, Dak isn't a scapegoat.  He's absolutely part of the problem on the field.  His contract dictates he needs to play like a top 3 or 4 QB.  He's not even close to that.  But yes it is Jerry's fault for signing him to that contract since Dak wouldn't take less than everything he could and Jerry is too proud to let go of the QB he "found".  It was well within Dak's right to get everything he could and good for him. 

 

The bullshit thing is that Jerry had all the leverage (contract year, Dak wasn't planning on holding out) and he completely gave it away.  Just bad business. 

Let the year play out then work a deal.  What's the worst that could happen?  Dak plays great and earns top pay? Awesome!  

Alternatively if he sucks, like he does, let him walk or sign him at a discount.  

Unless we draft lights out, or can find someone stupid enough to take Dak's contract off our hands, we're gonna be bad for awhile. 

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On 10/28/2024 at 9:20 PM, TheStoicPaisano said:

Jerrah = Boo-urns.

 

So the Cowboys will be represented by a fat, lazy, bumbling moron who is oblivious to the glaringly obvious situations of his life, and as a result continually offends and enrages the people around him?

Well, that's a stretch.

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On 10/28/2024 at 3:08 PM, Hate said:

How many times did they show Jed York on the broadcast last night? 

I mean he's only the CEO. He's not ALSO the best and only GM on the planet capable of guiding the 49ers.

So duh. You don't give airtime to a loser like that.

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On 10/28/2024 at 9:10 AM, Deej said:

I don't know why people still watch them on television. 

If they are losing toward the end of the game I watch for the schadenfreude. It makes me very happy to watch Jerry go through what I went through in the second half of the 90's and first couple of years of the 2000's. He finally is reaping what he sowed. We on the other hand stopped caring a long time ago. Don't get me wrong I will jump on that bandwagon if it ever comes close to going by me in my lifetime. 

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31 minutes ago, EvilCaseMcCoy said:

Unless we draft lights out, or can find someone stupid enough to take Dak's contract off our hands, we're gonna be bad for awhile. 

Please define for awhile.

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The draft has become a huge issue and they don't fill in roster holes with free agency.  You can't get better when that's the case.  There is no hope for the foreseeable future as long as Jerry is in control.

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57 minutes ago, Eskimohorn said:


Dallas will fire McCarthy, Hire Deion, trade Dak, and trade up for Shadeur Sanders

Please let this happen, just for the hilarity and the schadenfreude

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If you're Dak, why not just sandbag the next 3 seasons then retire? You know deep down you aren't winning anything in this organization. The owners aren't trying to win. Why even bother more than the minimum? 

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41 minutes ago, Hermanator said:

If you're Dak, why not just sandbag the next 3 seasons then retire? You know deep down you aren't winning anything in this organization. The owners aren't trying to win. Why even bother more than the minimum? 

Deep down there are only a handful of organizations that have a legit shot of winning something over the next few years.  Dallas isn't one of them along with a whole lot of other teams and players.  Do you think deep down everyone on the Giants, Jags, Titans, Jets, Colts, Raiders, Saints, Browns, or Panthers should just commit career suicide?  All these teams are just as lost, the Cowboys aren't unique in their ineptitude.

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27 minutes ago, Gene Parmesan said:

Deep down there are only a handful of organizations that have a legit shot of winning something over the next few years.  Dallas isn't one of them along with a whole lot of other teams and players.  Do you think deep down everyone on the Giants, Jags, Titans, Jets, Colts, Raiders, Saints, Browns, or Panthers should just commit career suicide?  All these teams are just as lost, the Cowboys aren't unique in their ineptitude.

Yep. Reality is most teams aren't actually trying to win. It's a business. A grift. Like religion, they get to you when you're young.

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9 hours ago, kevwun said:

The draft has become a huge issue and they don't fill in roster holes with free agency.  You can't get better when that's the case.  There is no hope for the foreseeable future as long as Jerry is in control.

In  the late 90s Erin Hogan said he would walk to Dallas if the Cowboys won a super bowl with Jerry at GM. He has yet to worry. 

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4 hours ago, Gene Parmesan said:

Deep down there are only a handful of organizations that have a legit shot of winning something over the next few years.  Dallas isn't one of them along with a whole lot of other teams and players.  Do you think deep down everyone on the Giants, Jags, Titans, Jets, Colts, Raiders, Saints, Browns, or Panthers should just commit career suicide?  All these teams are just as lost, the Cowboys aren't unique in their ineptitude.

I would say the Cowboys under Jerry since his "I want the credit tantrum" are pretty unique in ineptitude. Although you picked a few organizations that are right there with Jerry.

Here are the top NFL playoff wins since 2000:

    New England Patriots: 30 wins, including 6 Super Bowl wins ¹
    Baltimore Ravens: 17 wins, including 2 Super Bowl wins ¹
    Kansas City Chiefs: 16 wins, including 3 Super Bowl wins ¹
    Philadelphia Eagles: 16 wins, including 1 Super Bowl win ¹
    Green Bay Packers: 15 wins, including 1 Super Bowl win ¹
    Pittsburgh Steelers: 15 wins, including 2 Super Bowl wins ¹
    Seattle Seahawks: 14 wins, including 1 Super Bowl win ¹
    San Francisco 49ers: 14 wins ¹
    Indianapolis Colts: 13 wins, including 1 Super Bowl win ¹
    New York Giants: 11 wins, including 2 Super Bowl wins ¹
    Los Angeles Rams: 10 wins, including 2 Super Bowl wins ¹
    New Orleans Saints: 10 wins, including 1 Super Bowl win ¹
    Tampa Bay Buccaneers: 9 wins, including 2 Super Bowl wins ¹
    Denver Broncos: 7 wins, including 3 Super Bowl wins ¹


    New York Jets: 6 wins
    Carolina Panthers: 6 wins
    Tennessee Titans: 5 wins


    Jacksonville Jaguars: 4 wins
    Las Vegas Raiders: 4 wins
    Dallas Cowboys: 4 wins ¹

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5 minutes ago, DanTheHorn said:

I would say the Cowboys under Jerry since his "I want the credit tantrum" are pretty unique in ineptitude. Although you picked a few organizations that are right there with Jerry.

Here are the top NFL playoff wins since 2000:

    New England Patriots: 30 wins, including 6 Super Bowl wins ¹
    Baltimore Ravens: 17 wins, including 2 Super Bowl wins ¹
    Kansas City Chiefs: 16 wins, including 3 Super Bowl wins ¹
    Philadelphia Eagles: 16 wins, including 1 Super Bowl win ¹
    Green Bay Packers: 15 wins, including 1 Super Bowl win ¹
    Pittsburgh Steelers: 15 wins, including 2 Super Bowl wins ¹
    Seattle Seahawks: 14 wins, including 1 Super Bowl win ¹
    San Francisco 49ers: 14 wins ¹
    Indianapolis Colts: 13 wins, including 1 Super Bowl win ¹
    New York Giants: 11 wins, including 2 Super Bowl wins ¹
    Los Angeles Rams: 10 wins, including 2 Super Bowl wins ¹
    New Orleans Saints: 10 wins, including 1 Super Bowl win ¹
    Tampa Bay Buccaneers: 9 wins, including 2 Super Bowl wins ¹
    Denver Broncos: 7 wins, including 3 Super Bowl wins ¹


    New York Jets: 6 wins
    Carolina Panthers: 6 wins
    Tennessee Titans: 5 wins


    Jacksonville Jaguars: 4 wins
    Las Vegas Raiders: 4 wins
    Dallas Cowboys: 4 wins ¹

Washington is nowhere to be found on that list.  They finally unfuck themselves by dumping their version of Jerry Jones and hey looky there, things seem to be turning around

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They've also been this terrible with 2 borderline franchise QBs back to back for the last 18 years. How do you not at least blind luck into one NFC title game in 18 years with a franchise QB? Even the Bears lucked into a super bowl appearance with Rex fucking Grossmann in that time. 

It's why I really wanted to see Dak leave after the season. If he was able to go to another team with some talent and get to an NFC title game that would seal the deal with more than the mountain of circumstantial evidence already available. 

And this bastard bought his historically inept ass in to cheapening the hall of fame. 

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On 10/28/2024 at 11:09 AM, Pam Cummings said:

If paying your QB top 5 money doesn't give you an automatic 9 or 10 win floor, you shouldn't do it. It's that simple.

In that case, have you looked at the record of the Dallas Cowboys in the years Dak has been the starting QB and he was not injured??   

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18 minutes ago, Trey3216 said:

In that case, have you looked at the record of the Dallas Cowboys in the years Dak has been the starting QB and he was not injured??   

And he was being paid like a top 5 QB for all of those years?

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50 minutes ago, Hermanator said:

They've also been this terrible with 2 borderline franchise QBs back to back for the last 18 years. How do you not at least blind luck into one NFC title game in 18 years with a franchise QB? Even the Bears lucked into a super bowl appearance with Rex fucking Grossmann in that time. 

It's why I really wanted to see Dak leave after the season. If he was able to go to another team with some talent and get to an NFC title game that would seal the deal with more than the mountain of circumstantial evidence already available. 

And this bastard bought his historically inept ass in to cheapening the hall of fame. 

I finally thought Jerry was taking care of all family business in 2024.  Fat Mike and all coaches contract in last year. Dak playing on final year.  CeeDee playing out.  Tons of cap room with lots of old talent contracts gone.  Trade some folks like parsons for more draft capital.  Great position for 2025.  
 

but Noooooo!  Jerry boofooed himself with that last minute Dak deal.  Rest of team sees it as stupidity and don’t play hard for him as they know a $ he gets is a $ they won’t.  And don’t be surprised when Jerry signs fat Mike to another contract.

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12 hours ago, Surly Bevo said:

Washington is nowhere to be found on that list.  They finally unfuck themselves by dumping their version of Jerry Jones and hey looky there, things seem to be turning around

100% correct. Get rid of the head fuck up in the organization and anyone halfway competent can turn it around quickly.

And in 1 or 2 seasons Washington can match Jerry's playoff success over the last quarter century.

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1 minute ago, gofuckyourself said:

100% correct. Get rid of the head fuck up in the organization and anyone halfway competent can turn it around quickly.

And in 1 or 2 seasons Washington can match Jerry's playoff success over the last quarter century.

four. wins.  in a quarter century. we had just as many superbowls the previous quarter century as we do playoff wins this one. 

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19 hours ago, DanTheHorn said:

I would say the Cowboys under Jerry since his "I want the credit tantrum" are pretty unique in ineptitude. Although you picked a few organizations that are right there with Jerry.

Here are the top NFL playoff wins since 2000:

    New England Patriots: 30 wins, including 6 Super Bowl wins ¹
    Baltimore Ravens: 17 wins, including 2 Super Bowl wins ¹
    Kansas City Chiefs: 16 wins, including 3 Super Bowl wins ¹
    Philadelphia Eagles: 16 wins, including 1 Super Bowl win ¹
    Green Bay Packers: 15 wins, including 1 Super Bowl win ¹
    Pittsburgh Steelers: 15 wins, including 2 Super Bowl wins ¹
    Seattle Seahawks: 14 wins, including 1 Super Bowl win ¹
    San Francisco 49ers: 14 wins ¹
    Indianapolis Colts: 13 wins, including 1 Super Bowl win ¹
    New York Giants: 11 wins, including 2 Super Bowl wins ¹
    Los Angeles Rams: 10 wins, including 2 Super Bowl wins ¹
    New Orleans Saints: 10 wins, including 1 Super Bowl win ¹
    Tampa Bay Buccaneers: 9 wins, including 2 Super Bowl wins ¹
    Denver Broncos: 7 wins, including 3 Super Bowl wins ¹


    New York Jets: 6 wins
    Carolina Panthers: 6 wins
    Tennessee Titans: 5 wins


    Jacksonville Jaguars: 4 wins
    Las Vegas Raiders: 4 wins
    Dallas Cowboys: 4 wins ¹

The Broncos have only won 1 SB since 2000.

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