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anecdotal- three unrelated younger working people in my immediate orbit (in PA, VA and TX) have been through a traumatizing round of layoffs/'restructuring' in the last two months. they've all survived the cuts but are stressed/sad to have lost co-workers and have to take on additional roles/responsibilities to pick up the slack, not to mention terrified of the next round...

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On 12/5/2025 at 11:25 PM, Im_smarter_then_you said:

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“Probably the traditional holiday workforce staying home to receive their tariff checks.”   - Fox and Friends guest

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2 hours ago, Gatorubet said:

“Probably the traditional holiday workforce staying home to receive their tariff checks.”   - Fox and 

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Sychophants know embracing the lie is the turnip way.

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Question about this farmer bailout that we all knew was coming. If this is being paid from tariff revenue doesn’t this mean we are paying it from paying higher prices he caused from this stupid shit? This is a double dipping of stupid. 

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34 minutes ago, Clintonaldo said:

Question about this farmer bailout that we all knew was coming. If this is being paid from tariff revenue doesn’t this mean we are paying it from paying higher prices he caused from this stupid shit? This is a double dipping of stupid. 

You get it

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1 hour ago, Clintonaldo said:

Question about this farmer bailout that we all knew was coming. If this is being paid from tariff revenue doesn’t this mean we are paying it from paying higher prices he caused from this stupid shit? This is a double dipping of stupid. 

And, there's a pretty decent likelihood that all the tariff revenue goes poof in the next few months.

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Question about this farmer bailout that we all knew was coming. If this is being paid from tariff revenue doesn’t this mean we are paying it from paying higher prices he caused from this stupid shit? This is a double dipping of stupid. 

Don’t forget he also killed the market for American farmers going forward and we don’t know if those customers will ever come back! It’s a banana split of eating a bag of dicks self pwnage! But hey! The libs are hoping mad about it! And the warm feeling that brings is toats worth it, amirite?!
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2 hours ago, Clintonaldo said:

Question about this farmer bailout that we all knew was coming. If this is being paid from tariff revenue doesn’t this mean we are paying it from paying higher prices he caused from this stupid shit? This is a double dipping of stupid. 

He wants the Supreme Court not to overturn his tariff income, so he says that the illegal income has to go to pay back farmers that his stupid policies have hurt, so the Supreme Court should not overturn his tariffs. 

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3 hours ago, SubliminalHorn said:

Ok explain this to me like I’m five

 

3 hours ago, VABuckeye said:

Needed to print some money to pay the farmers.

I don't think that's it. We spent $13.5B on repos to give banks more cash (presumably for lending, which in theory can be a good thing, like it was during COVID but is generally a "oh fuck bad shit is coming, we need to put up our shields" kind of action). We're also now about to spend $12B on this "bailout". That's $25B that just went poof from the feds, assuming we actually pay the farmers.

The $13.5B liquidity injection is quite the tell... Not in a good way.

It might also be an indication that bond rates are about to go down so they wanted to buy back bonds now before their price jumps. That seems unlikely... 

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4 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

Trump was up late last night

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/115688492399516072

Because of Tariffs, easily and quickly applied, our National Security has been greatly enhanced, and we have become the financially strongest Country, by far, anywhere in the World. Only dark and sinister forces would want to see that end!!!

Ugh, we are so fucked. 

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4 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

Only dark and sinister forces would want to see that end!!!

Dark forces like...Costco!

Hard to tell if it's Trump's hold on MAGA diminishing or how much they fucking love/need Costco, but I've yet to hear a single call for a boycott.

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9 hours ago, Biff Tannen said:

Wasn’t that last year? 

He wouldn’t have had the presidential seal on the podium last year.

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On 12/8/2025 at 11:56 PM, Willfully Horn said:

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Sychophants know embracing the lie is the turnip way.

If you don't pay the claims, then there are no claims.

 

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On 12/8/2025 at 5:56 PM, Willfully Horn said:

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Sychophants know embracing the lie is the turnip way.

I could easily be wrong, but I think you can collect unemployment for about 6 months. So, maybe claims are down because people have been unemployed so long they no longer qualify?

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9 minutes ago, gernblansten said:

I could easily be wrong, but I think you can collect unemployment for about 6 months. So, maybe claims are down because people have been unemployed so long they no longer qualify?

And, I think once someone has remained unemployed for that long, they are no longer counted as part of the workforce.

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12 minutes ago, gernblansten said:

I could easily be wrong, but I think you can collect unemployment for about 6 months. So, maybe claims are down because people have been unemployed so long they no longer qualify?

Or he could, you know, just be lying about claims being down.

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14 hours ago, bluto said:

Is that trump or Lou holtz

I’m enjoying seeing him decline both at his rally and in his social media posts.  The fact that he’s telling all of us that for some reason he’s having to take cognitive tests with rooms full of doctors is awesome.  It’s gonna be fun to see how MAGA handles his decline.

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5 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

I’m enjoying seeing him decline both at his rally and in his social media posts.  The fact that he’s telling all of us that for some reason he’s having to take cognitive tests with rooms full of doctors is awesome.  It’s gonna be fun to see how MAGA handles his decline.

"Decline? You mean how the Deep State was slowly poisoning him because he was making America great again and the libtards who are trying to steal our country wanted to make sure transgender child molesters could prey on our children again?" - MAGA, probably 

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3 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

I’m enjoying seeing him decline both at his rally and in his social media posts.  The fact that he’s telling all of us that for some reason he’s having to take cognitive tests with rooms full of doctors is awesome.  It’s gonna be fun to see how MAGA handles his decline.

There are very few things in my life that I've looked forward to more than when that fat fuck keels over and half the country (and the rest of the world) throws an impromptu rager while the other half flies their flags at half mast for the rest of eternity and chastises us for our tasteless celebration and lectures us on decorum...while we laugh in their fucking faces.

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13 minutes ago, gernblansten said:

Uh, yeah, obviously, lying is, you know, always assumed. 

Glad we can, yeah, see things, you know, the same way.

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8 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

There are very few things in my life that I've looked forward to more than when that fat fuck keels over and half the country (and the rest of the world) throws an impromptu rager while the other half flies their flags at half mast for the rest of eternity and chastises us for our tasteless celebration and lectures us on decorum...while we laugh in their fucking faces.

We were hanging out on Sunday with some friends and 2/3 of the couples there have a nice bottle saved for the occasion. 

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I check out TexAgs political board from time to time. I’ve noticed a distinctive shift in support of Trump’s economic policies presumably due to the lack of positive results. Don’t get me wrong, these are still hardcore Trumpists and would never vote Dem but even they know Trump is lying at saying his economy is A++++.

When TexAgs are openly criticizing Trump, this tells me the GOP is in trouble next November unless something changes fast. And it never changes that fast in a positive direction.

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1 hour ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

I check out TexAgs political board from time to time. I’ve noticed a distinctive shift in support of Trump’s economic policies presumably due to the lack of positive results. Don’t get me wrong, these are still hardcore Trumpists and would never vote Dem but even they know Trump is lying at saying his economy is A++++.

When TexAgs are openly criticizing Trump, this tells me the GOP is in trouble next November unless something changes fast. And it never changes that fast in a positive direction.

Going to pull my best @Brisketexan impression here... All it takes for fickle "middle of the road" voters to flip on a D is an email server for a female. 

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On 12/9/2025 at 11:48 AM, dieucla98 said:

 

I don't think that's it. We spent $13.5B on repos to give banks more cash (presumably for lending, which in theory can be a good thing, like it was during COVID but is generally a "oh fuck bad shit is coming, we need to put up our shields" kind of action). We're also now about to spend $12B on this "bailout". That's $25B that just went poof from the feds, assuming we actually pay the farmers.

The $13.5B liquidity injection is quite the tell... Not in a good way.

It might also be an indication that bond rates are about to go down so they wanted to buy back bonds now before their price jumps. That seems unlikely... 

Huh, it was foreshadowing a rate cut. I'll be damned.

https://www.cnn.com/business/live-news/federal-reserve-interest-rate-12-10-2025

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What we're covering here

• The Federal Reserve cut interest rates Wednesday by a quarter point as expected, lowering borrowing costs for the third time this year.

• The central bank also gave more details on its plans for 2026, when it projects just one rate cut.

• Today’s meeting caps off a rough year for central bank officials: They have battled stubborn inflation, a weakening labor market, more than the usual number of committee dissents, and a series of personal attacks from President Donald Trump.

• Wall Street and economists are tuned in to Fed Chair Jerome Powell’s press conference, where he is laying out the committee’s thoughts on the future path of the economy.

 

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5 hours ago, Valmy77 said:

Or he could, you know, just be lying about claims being down.

Looking at the 12/4 report from the Department of Labor, it looks like initial claims are recently down, but continued claims are up.  

Not seasonal adjusted initial claims were down about 20% from Nov 22 to Nov 29 and they had anticipated a seasonal adjustment of 8.6%.  So, yeah, it is good news. I am curious how the government shutdown might have affected the numbers.  I could see vendors who support the government furloughing employees during the shutdown.  

But for continued claims, it was up 70k people from Nov 8 to Nov 15, up about 4.1% in a week.  Comparing to the same time last year, continued claims are up 3.3%.  

 



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