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India launching airstrikes on Pakistan. Because this timeline.

India says it hit Pakistan air defences and accuses Islamabad of drone strikes - latest - BBC News

  • Pakistan says it shot down 25 Indian drones overnight
  • It has not commented on Indian claims that Islamabad sent drones and "missiles" over the border
  • India said Pakistan was attempting to "engage a number of military targets"
  • Pakistan says 31 people have been killed and 57 injured by air strikes in Pakistan and Pakistan-administered Kashmir, and firing along the Line of Control, since Wednesday morning
  • Meanwhile, India's army says at least 16 civilians were killed by Pakistani shelling on its side of the de facto border

 

 

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China + Pakistan vs. USA + India

Pretty even on population, but India's gonna have more munitions. Or they would if the US wasn't busy fighting the mighty Tren de Aragua

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1 minute ago, chainsaw said:

China + Pakistan vs. USA + India

Pretty even on population, but India's gonna have more munitions. Or they would if the US wasn't busy fighting the mighty Tren de Aragua

Pakistan claiming they shot down several Indian jets with their Chinese-made fighters.  Probably full of shit, but the whole thing is pretty wild. It escalated so damned fast, and we now have drones fully in the mix.

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All the people who are usually right have been ringing this alarm for years. (the looming water scarcity crisis, that is)

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I as in India many years back and got caught in a street riot/protest over water rights within India.  Nothing too violent, but they were rocking the car, shouting, etc.  

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1 minute ago, chainsaw said:

All the people who are usually right have been ringing this alarm for years. 

Who dis?

Posted
6 minutes ago, BabaYaga said:

All this over water.....sigh......

Yeah, sigh. The most essential thing on earth that humans need to survive. Could you imagine 

Posted
1 minute ago, Js1 said:

Yeah, sigh. The most essential thing on earth that humans need to survive. Could you imagine 

Because they do such a bang up job with the resources that they have today

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I wouldn’t start throwing stones at how other countries take care of their precious resources, especially overpopulated second and third world countries.  Neither should China or Russia, for that matter 

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25 minutes ago, chainsaw said:

China + Pakistan vs. USA + India

Pretty even on population, but India's gonna have more munitions. Or they would if the US wasn't busy fighting the mighty Tren de Aragua

Might want to check your notes on who is the biggest supplier to the Indian military. That country is a little tied up with their own war at the moment.

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2 minutes ago, royiv said:

Might want to check your notes on who is the biggest supplier to the Indian military. That country is a little tied up with their own war at the moment.

Oh I guess they're gonna be on India's side, too. But yes they are also tied up at the moment.

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Posted
9 minutes ago, chainsaw said:

LOL did you google "polluted river" and post it as evidence that they don't actually care about water?

You're right, the Ganges and Yamuna rivers in India are just great for taking a quit dip in

Posted
26 minutes ago, BabaYaga said:

I as in India many years back and got caught in a street riot/protest over water rights within India.  Nothing too violent, but they were rocking the car, shouting, etc.  

When I visited India years ago, I woke up one morning to an armored bus marked “RIOT POLICE” sitting across the street. That freaked me the fuck out. A riot seemed plausible. Indian streets are a constant buzz of noise and chaos, so it was hard to distinguish between the everyday sound of India and a riot.

Turns out it was nothing - the shack across the street was the equivalent of a donut shop. So of course the cops drove the fucking riot bus there to grab a bite.

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For all the bluster, India is NOT going to do away with the Indus Waters Treaty. That would all but gaurantee a full on hot war with nuclear threat-- Russia and the US won't let it get that far. China might keep prodding Pakistan up that escalation ladder, but I'm not worried about it (I know I know, famous last words).

Estimates are that the Indus water irrigates like 80%+ of Pakistan's crops and secondly reports are that India doesn't even have the technical abilities to divert the waters anyways (yet).

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Posted
27 minutes ago, royiv said:

Might want to check your notes on who is the biggest supplier to the Indian military. That country is a little tied up with their own war at the moment.

India has cancelled quite a bit of their orders.

And China was kind to Pakistan on the aviation sale. They want their Silk Road investments protected.

 

 

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Posted
58 minutes ago, BabaYaga said:

Because they do such a bang up job with the resources that they have today

I mean both things can be true. 

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59 minutes ago, Js1 said:

I wouldn’t start throwing stones at how other countries take care of their precious resources, especially overpopulated second and third world countries.  Neither should China or Russia, for that matter 

Second World countries is not really a thing anymore.  Second world countries did not fall between 1st and 3rd world countries based upon wealth or GDP.  It was a Cold War construct - 2nd world countries included the Soviet Union and the communist bloc.  

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18 minutes ago, Vegas64 said:

For all the bluster, India is NOT going to do away with the Indus Waters Treaty. That would all but gaurantee a full on hot war with nuclear threat-- Russia and the US won't let it get that far. China might keep prodding Pakistan up that escalation ladder, but I'm not worried about it (I know I know, famous last words).

Estimates are that the Indus water irrigates like 80%+ of Pakistan's crops and secondly reports are that India doesn't even have the technical abilities to divert the waters anyways (yet).

Yes, it does. And India can divert more than they currently do. Any hit messes up Pakistan.

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8 minutes ago, gurt said:

Animated GIF

Cripples with nuclear weapons. If it weren't for the nuclear part, most of the world wouldn't give a shit. Well, Apple would because of the Iphone. Modern day conveniences are important!

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2 minutes ago, crash_davis said:

Cripples with nuclear weapons. If it weren't for the nuclear part, most of the world wouldn't give a shit. Well, Apple would because of the Iphone. Modern day conveniences are important!

Isn't that the worldwide case?

Cripples with nukes

Retards with nukes (US)

Small dicked despots with nukes (Norks and Russia) 

Posted
5 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Isn't that the worldwide case?

Cripples with nukes

Retards with nukes (US)

Small dicked despots with nukes (Norks and Russia) 

This is why countries want nukes. I don't imagine a nuke having country will ever again be invaded. Ukraine sure wishes they hadn't disposed of their nukes.

 

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10 minutes ago, crash_davis said:

This is why countries want nukes. I don't imagine a nuke having country will ever again be invaded. Ukraine sure wishes they hadn't disposed of their nukes.

 

This.  The current geopolitical environment has done more to incentivize nuclear proliferation than any sequence since the hottest years of the Cold War.  At this point, any country even remotely capable of obtaining/developing a nuke would be foolish not to.

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Posted
53 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

Yes, it does. And India can divert more than they currently do. Any hit messes up Pakistan.

Sure, but on the whole, they don't have the infrastructure to really divert the waters and cripple Pakistan, which is what you'd need to do in short order (a swift, fatal blow) versus a slow, tortured process of diversion which would allow Pakistan to rally a) world sympathy (millions of innocent people affected by the lack of water) and b) Pakistan/China escalated response which would be bad for everyone.

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12 minutes ago, Vegas64 said:

Sure, but on the whole, they don't have the infrastructure to really divert the waters and cripple Pakistan, which is what you'd need to do in short order (a swift, fatal blow) versus a slow, tortured process of diversion which would allow Pakistan to rally a) world sympathy (millions of innocent people affected by the lack of water) and b) Pakistan/China escalated response which would be bad for everyone.

You are dealing with religious nationalists on both sides.

And now India can build any water storage systems it wants without violating the treaty or Pakistani input.

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Posted
3 hours ago, chainsaw said:

LOL did you google "polluted river" and post it as evidence that they don't actually care about water?

Shut the fuck up Matlock

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Posted
4 hours ago, InkaUtexas said:

India has cancelled quite a bit of their orders.

And China was kind to Pakistan on the aviation sale. They want their Silk Road investments protected.

 

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I always thought their dance battles deserved a thread, i was disappointed to see it's about a brewing war . Hopefully they can settle their differences without violence 

 

 

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6 minutes ago, Dennis Taylor said:

I always thought their dance battles deserved a thread, i was disappointed to see it's about a brewing war . Hopefully they can settle their differences without violence 

 

 

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Posted
11 minutes ago, Dennis Taylor said:

Care to elaborate?

He was a white boy who lived in the jungle who they filmed around 1973.  
 

 

Check that, he may have been found in Africa. Kind of confusing

 

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Posted
1 hour ago, Dennis Taylor said:

I always thought their dance battles deserved a thread, i was disappointed to see it's about a brewing war . Hopefully they can settle their differences without violence 

 

 

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6 hours ago, chainsaw said:

All the people who are usually right have been ringing this alarm for years. (the looming water scarcity crisis, that is)

 

6 hours ago, Rip76 said:

Who dis?

 

6 hours ago, BabaYaga said:

Skip Bayless

Helobious 

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I spent the worst year of my life in Karachi.  
 

China has little reason to want actual escalation and many reasons not to; they are delighted to get some data on how well their systems work against a fighting opponent but zero reason to want an actual war. The United States also has zero interest in this spiraling. 
 

And while miscalculation and face-saving can lead to some bad outcomes, both India and Pakistan are calibrating here in rhetoric and action.  I still thing a slow wind-down is most likely. 

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35 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

The United States also has zero interest in this spiraling. 

A sane nation in our position, yes.

Have you forgotten which timeline we're in?

Now, here are the ground rules. First call center to reach $1B in stolen iTunes gift cards wins.

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Posted
2 hours ago, Dennis Taylor said:

I always thought their dance battles deserved a thread, i was disappointed to see it's about a brewing war . Hopefully they can settle their differences without violence 

 

 

They should watch some Micheal Jackson vids and have a dance off.

Posted
3 hours ago, Bevo said:

I think the World’s Greatest Athlete is Indian. 

I honestly thought you were making a Jim Thorpe joke.

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No, it was a reference to a crappy 70s movie. There were a few of them that came out around the same time. I was really young and I even thought at the time that they were pretty bad.

Posted
12 minutes ago, Agent 13 said:

I honestly thought you were making a Jim Thorpe joke.

I started to but you just stole my thunder.

Posted
4 hours ago, Dennis Taylor said:

I always thought their dance battles deserved a thread, i was disappointed to see it's about a brewing war . Hopefully they can settle their differences without violence 

 

 

a man in a tuxedo is dancing in a room with people sitting at tables

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3 hours ago, Bevo said:

He was a white boy who lived in the jungle who they filmed around 1973.  
 

 

Check that, he may have been found in Africa. Kind of confusing

 

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Holy shit I forgot about that abomination of a movie.  Go Disney!

Posted
18 hours ago, Dennis Taylor said:

I always thought their dance battles deserved a thread, i was disappointed to see it's about a brewing war . Hopefully they can settle their differences without violence 

 

 

What is this, the Ministry of Silly Walks?

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So, anybody hear much about this alleged massive "dog fight" between India and Pakistan? Several sources reported on it yesterday, but then nothing since. Almost like nobody is sure it actually happened. 

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