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Ohio State folks are convinced that Julian and Arch are in the same boat since even though Sayin has no experience, he isn't having to face a hostile crowd. Arch already got a taste of loud crowd conditions against aggy, but more importantly he had to come in versus Georgia under really hostile conditions where Georgia was just teeing off on the QB at that point in the game. So no, it's not the same. One has just enough experience to draw from, and the other has none. And let's hope we can bank on it for a win on Saturday.

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5 minutes ago, DanTheHorn said:

Ohio State folks are convinced that Julian and Arch are in the same boat since even though Sayin has no experience, he isn't having to face a hostile crowd. Arch already got a taste of loud crowd conditions against aggy, but more importantly he had to come in versus Georgia under really hostile conditions where Georgia was just teeing off on the QB at that point in the game. So no, it's not the same. One has just enough experience to draw from, and the other has none. And let's hope we can bank on it for a win on Saturday.

Zero college starts somehow equals 2 starts and high leverage snaps all season. Whatever makes them feel better 

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Think this has been posted in other threads, but I really recommend watching this if you have not. Gives you a good understanding of how PK held that offense to 21 pts and his general defensive philosophy the last 2 years. If Texas can play the box light and stop the run again, Texas will win this game. (Michigan has done this also). 

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Slightly off topic, but over the weekend I came across an extended highlight video of the '06 matchup in Austin. I had forgotten (or purposely blocked out) a lot of that game. Troy Smith overthrew Ted Ginn about 4 different times for touchdowns. 

Colt obviously wasn't good, but Mack and Greg Davis had the leash on tight that game. The fumble by Pittman when we were about to go up 7-0 in the first quarter was a killer. 

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2 hours ago, PsychMike said:

Irish 30, Canes 29, with the Canes missing the potential game-winning FG?

 

1 hour ago, ztejas said:

If by missing you mean accidentally letting the clock run out before they can attempt it you're probably right. 

Season 6 Side Show Bob GIF by The Simpsons

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23 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said:

Slightly off topic, but over the weekend I came across an extended highlight video of the '06 matchup in Austin. I had forgotten (or purposely blocked out) a lot of that game. Troy Smith overthrew Ted Ginn about 4 different times for touchdowns. 

Colt obviously wasn't good, but Mack and Greg Davis had the leash on tight that game. The fumble by Pittman when we were about to go up 7-0 in the first quarter was a killer. 

Yeah, freshman Colt had all of one start in his career, the prior week against North Texas.  The Colt McCoy of later in that season with several more games under his belt might have pulled off a win, or at least made the game closer.

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57 minutes ago, Park Gothic said:

Here is what Bill Connelly / SP+ predicted before the Bama game in 2023:

Current line: Bama -7 | SP+ projection: Bama by 12.8 | FPI projection: Bama by 13.8

Source: https://www.espn.com/college-football/insider/story/_/id/38346795/college-football-week-2-texas-bama-texas-miami-bets-picks-more

I like Connelly and I like SP+, but his model struggles early in the season. Same as FPI, same as literally everyone. There is not enough data to go on, especially for a week 1 game. I'm picking Texas and I think this game will look more like Michigan in 2024 and less like Bama in 2023. We have the QB advantage and we have the better defense. Those two factors alone decide 90% of college football games. Our secondary is going to make reading the field and making safe throw hard on the inexperienced (although clearly talented) Sayin, and he isn't going to have much time to do his job with our DL crashing down on him. OSU's best bet will be to lean on their run game, but that neutralizes their biggest asset in WR Jeremiah Smith. 

I don't know what to make of our OL at this point, which makes it hard to predict how well the offense will do as a whole. But I'm pretty sure we can run block even if our pass block is deficient due to injuries. We definitely have the better stable of RBs. We can lean on our run game if we need to, which is a cornerstone of Sark's offense anyway. 

Maybe I'm too much of a homer, but there it seems like everything lines up favorably for Texas. OSU is clearly an excellent team with a talented roster, but styles make fights and, at least at this point in the season, I think we are a terrible match up for what they want to do. 

 


too much analysis. We have Arch and we have Livingstone - Mudhole! 

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1 hour ago, TejasPedro said:

First off fuck Ohio State 

Ya’ll remember that one time Sark and the Horns rolled into Brian Dennehy Stadium and completely dismantled the Bama program Tuscaloosa hasn’t been the same since that day. 
 

Pos rep for this alone… 

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10 minutes ago, Borrominion said:

Howdy folks - Buckeye in Austin here, checking back in for the first time this season.  Best of luck to y'all this weekend.  I have zero feel for how this game is going to go - both sides with obviously extreme talent but inexperience at some very important positions.  I think TX has a slight edge at QB given Arch's game experience last year, and a significant edge on the sideline since we will be breaking in two new fresh coordinators (even though Hartline will have a nice safety net given that Day has spent most of his career calling plays).  Calling it a wash over the other positions (TX with an advantage at DL and LB, OSU at OL and WR, etc) I would expect TX to pull out a close win, and a blowout in either case seems extremely unlikely...but playing this monster in Game 1 just adds an unaccountable weirdness factor.

My 6-year-old daughter fortunately loves me very much and wants to root for OSU to make me happy, but as the lone actual Austinite in the family she is torn.  She'll be wearing a TX dress underneath her OSU hoodie for this one.

If you ever get lost in between the parking lot and stadium, stop by the Surly tailgate and some fine individual can provide directions. 

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Sark seems to do his best work when he can spend the entire off season and preseason camp game planning, as evidenced by Alabama 2 years ago and Michigan last. I fully trust he’s going to put us in a great position to win this game. 
 

The similarities to Michigan last year are just too much to overlook (OSU and Michigan both coming off national championships, both losing a shit ton of their upper class man heavy roster, Michigan lost their HC and OSU lost their OC). I actually feel really good about this game.

 

As a side note, how the fuck we playing at Michigan and then at Ohio State in back to back years? I haven’t looked at future schedules but those motherfuckers better return those games to Austin in the near future.

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1 minute ago, Billy Pilgrim said:

As a side note, how the fuck we playing at Michigan and then at Ohio State in back to back years? I haven’t looked at future schedules but those motherfuckers better return those games to Austin in the near future.

And it was @Alabama the year before that.  But don't worry, Ohio State will be headed to Austin in 2026 and Michigan  in 2027.  

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1 minute ago, utee94 said:

And it was @Alabama the year before that.  But don't worry, Ohio State will be headed to Austin in 2026 and Michigan  in 2027.  

At least Alabama came to Austin the year before (during peak Big12 ref shenanigans)

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3 minutes ago, utee94 said:

And it was @Alabama the year before that.  But don't worry, Ohio State will be headed to Austin in 2026 and Michigan  in 2027.  

Sure Jan. 
 

that was for CTJ. 

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I'd expect a 25% to 35 % downgrade from Will Howards performance at best and that is the factor I see being the difference. unless our secondary is just not up to keeping up with their WR's

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10 minutes ago, Frank Hammer said:

I'd expect a 25% to 35 % downgrade from Will Howards performance at best and that is the factor I see being the difference. unless our secondary is just not up to keeping up with their WR's

I dont know who is on OL or DL, but there was more pressure than I anticipated 

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48 minutes ago, Frank Drebin said:

If you ever get lost in between the parking lot and stadium, stop by the Surly tailgate and some fine individual can provide directions. 

Haha - thanks.  I'll bring along my google maps just as a backup.

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39 minutes ago, Billy Pilgrim said:

At least Alabama came to Austin the year before (during peak Big12 ref shenanigans)

Oh yeah for sure, I wasn't commenting on any unfairness of scheduling the home-and-homes.  Just the strange quirk of the schedule playing @Alabama, @Michigan, and @Ohio State three years in a row.

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We'll see how Texas' reloaded OL goes. That's certainly an unknown going into this game.

I've seen Simmons, Moore, and Hill play football before. They're not unknown. If any one of them were on the field, the opposing coach would have to scheme against them. They're each individually capable of beating their man one on one and putting the QB on the ground without benefit of blitz or overload. 

They can all 3 be on the field at once.

There's plenty of talent on the tOSU offense. This just isn't the defense to practice on.

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1 hour ago, Billy Pilgrim said:

The similarities to Michigan last year are just too much to overlook (OSU and Michigan both coming off national championships, both losing a shit ton of their upper class man heavy roster, Michigan lost their HC and OSU lost their OC). I actually feel really good about this game.

I don’t think any of those points are all that relevant to this matchup. Michigan was basically handicapped on one side of the ball with two terrible QBs. Also their DC Martindale played right into Sark’s/Quinn’s hands with his Cover 2 looks, almost working exclusively out of Man/Cover2. Which is just incompetent because there was so much data out on Quinn at that point, his QBR was on average 30+ points higher versus C2. I think that’s why you seen Quinn look probably as comfortable on tape then any other game at Texas, he was confident in what he was seeing. 

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I feel like we're getting this game all figured out on paper, but then Texas will end up winning by two scores because some JAG fumbles a punt and Brad Spence has a scoop and score.

The world is random DGAF.

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1 hour ago, Billy Pilgrim said:

Sark seems to do his best work when he can spend the entire off season and preseason camp game planning, as evidenced by Alabama 2 years ago and Michigan last. I fully trust he’s going to put us in a great position to win this game. 
 

The similarities to Michigan last year are just too much to overlook (OSU and Michigan both coming off national championships, both losing a shit ton of their upper class man heavy roster, Michigan lost their HC and OSU lost their OC). I actually feel really good about this game.

 

As a side note, how the fuck we playing at Michigan and then at Ohio State in back to back years? I haven’t looked at future schedules but those motherfuckers better return those games to Austin in the near future.

We swapped our home date with Michigan last season with our 2027 date in Austin as part of the exit package from the Rig 12 so Fox could broadcast the game with their Big 10 broadcast rights.  In 2026 we play OSU and 2027 Michigan in Austin.  Which will work out to our benefit because we will have all our non conference games in Austin those years too.  

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1 minute ago, Nueces River Rat said:

We swapped our home date with Michigan last season with our 2027 date in Austin as part of the exit package from the Rig 12 so Fox could broadcast the game with their Big 10 broadcast rights.  In 2026 we play OSU and 2027 Michigan in Austin.  Which will work out to our benefit because we will have all our non conference games in Austin those years too.  

And both of those games are going to get ABC/ESPN night kicks. 

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10 minutes ago, CastHorn said:

I don’t think any of those points are all that relevant to this matchup. Michigan was basically handicapped on one side of the ball with two terrible QBs. Also their DC Martindale played right into Sark’s/Quinn’s hands with his Cover 2 looks, almost working exclusively out of Man/Cover2. Which is just incompetent because there was so much data out on Quinn at that point, his QBR was on average 30+ points higher versus C2. I think that’s why you seen Quinn look probably as comfortable on tape then any other game at Texas, he was confident in what he was seeing. 

Some felt that Michigan was too often in cover 3. 
 

The first 3rd and long that was converted to Bond.  Deep middle safety.  If cover 3, the corner did an awful job.  That was on him.

The TD pass called back.  Ewers broke the pocket. It was not really a play call or even an initial coverage issue.  Same for the Helm TD catch.

Ewers played well and made a few critical plays.  Whatever Michigan ran, they mixed in 4, 5 and even a 6 man fronts before they dropped.  It was more about our abilities and capabilities than whatever scheme Michigan ran.

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3 minutes ago, Had Enough said:

Some felt that Michigan was too often in cover 3. 
 

The first 3rd and long that was converted to Bond.  Deep middle safety.  If cover 3, the corner did an awful job.  That was on him.

The TD pass called back.  Ewers broke the pocket. It was not really a play call or even an initial coverage issue.  Same for the Helm TD catch.

Ewers played well and made a few critical plays.  Whatever Michigan ran, they mixed in 4, 5 and even a 6 man fronts before they dropped.  It was more about our abilities and capabilities than whatever scheme Michigan ran.

I remember a ton of cover 3, but that was a year ago. Texas absolutely lit Michigan up in the flats. might have been Quinn's best game as a Longhorn. 

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That was also before he got hurt again.  I don't think he was ever the same after it happened.  His pocket presence issues seemed to be much worse for the rest of the season after he came back.

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I feel like we will win by at least two scores if we have a fast start with Sark's scripted plays. If things go south early, we might lose a close one. My gut tells me we will see a VY like performance from Arch in his first game as a starter. 

Edit: first year as QB1

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1 minute ago, UTEE97 said:

I feel like we will win by at least two scores if we have a fast start with Sark's scripted plays. If things go south early, we might lose a close one. My gut tells me we will see a VY like performance from Arch in his first game as a starter. 

Not his first game as a starter

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Arch is going to play well. Better D. Better QB. Better coach. Things tend to play out favorably for teams that have those nods. 
 

Not to mention we will be bumping boosie in the locker room so wrap that shit up right now. 

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20 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Not his first game as a starter

I should have said QB1. He was the backup ladt year even though he got to start two cupcake games. This year, this is his team.

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In their defense, no one quite understood how good Jeremiah Smith was.  He was rated very highly, but everyone had Ryan Williams above him.

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1 minute ago, kevwun said:

In their defense, no one knew what Jeremiah Smith was.  He was rated very highly, but everyone had Ryan Williams above him.

To be clear, is Bobby saying this about Smith and Wingo right now, after Smith balled out his freshman year?  Or is some Buckeye fan site digging this up from over a year ago when those guys were still in high school.  

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9 minutes ago, UTEE97 said:

I should have said QB1. He was the backup ladt year even though he got to start two cupcake games. This year, this is his team.

Just being pedantic 

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Smith is the best WR in football.  But that take is so dumb.  Bobby said that a year ago.  Both were top recruits.  Smith is better.  Wingo will likely narrow the gap between the two significantly this year with a QB who can throw deep and a lot more opportunities as WR1.

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2 minutes ago, South Austin said:

To be clear, is Bobby saying this about Smith and Wingo right now, after Smith balled out his freshman year?  Or is some Buckeye fan site digging this up from over a year ago when those guys were still in high school.  

That's definitely from last year or maybe even before.

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2 minutes ago, South Austin said:

To be clear, is Bobby saying this about Smith and Wingo right now, after Smith balled out his freshman year?  Or is some Buckeye fan site digging this up from over a year ago when those guys were still in high school.  

That's what I assumed it was.  If it's now, then yeah he's being silly.

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4 minutes ago, South Austin said:

To be clear, is Bobby saying this about Smith and Wingo right now, after Smith balled out his freshman year?  Or is some Buckeye fan site digging this up from over a year ago when those guys were still in high school.  

This is coming out of HS. All 3 could end up being 1st round picks, so this story could have a few more twists and turns. Right now Wingo is definitely behind the other 2 

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9 minutes ago, kevwun said:

In their defense, no one quite understood how good Jeremiah Smith was.  He was rated very highly, but everyone had Ryan Williams above him.

Smith was the consensus #1 player in the country, so this is absolutely not true. 

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Ryan Williams reclassified though, so he and Smith were in different classes for most of the process because he didn't announce it until December.

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Just now, Jimmy Two Times said:

Smith was the consensus #1 player in the country, so this is absolutely not true. 

Yeah but like the consensus #1 player is ever good

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